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Demjon
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Posted - 2010.06.16 04:52:00 -
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If you wont let me mine more mins in a new ship I would like the luxuries please.
1. Battle ship tank, no more small shield booster! ie: cpu, grid, more mid slots and low slots ect.
2. Huge cargo hold (how can a jet can be larger than a cargo bay??? it came out of the ship and they are infinite)
3. +1 warp stab (good for low sec and rats)
4. targeting range, strip miner range, larger drone bay
5. rig or subsystem that allows you to pick what mining bonuses you recieve. (skif bonus, mac bonus, hulk bonus something like this)
Please give me something, the hulk is an old ship, rorqual, orca are great logistical ships but THEY DON'T MINE! Same old 3 strip miners going but with all the fixns'
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Taxesarebad
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Posted - 2010.06.16 05:28:00 -
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there are too many minerals already to where mining is not profitable. making it easier will not help in any way.
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Yuki Kulotsuki
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Posted - 2010.06.16 05:44:00 -
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The jet can was never intended for mining. It used to be considered an exploit to use it's obscenely large space as a dumping ground for your minerals. But that was in the past. I wouldn't try to justify hold size with jet cans since the jet can size is a historical artifact.
I'm still going to disagree with this. It's just a wish list with no drawbacks or balance that would make it the only thing flown by miners. Minerals have flooded the market and with the removal of the artificial floor from insurance the isk value is in decline. (See: Akita T's thoughts on the issue.)
But look on the bright side! Hulkageddon III is coming up soon. That should make mining more worthwhile.
 Originally by: CCP Lemur
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Misanthra
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Posted - 2010.06.16 06:22:00 -
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so you want a slow t3 sitting on belts....don't like your keeping your sp's do you lol.
Good salvage to the one who gets its, very nice km...and added joy of knowing the pilot loses some sp's. All ensure reports of a t3 get people undocked in numbers lol. this low sec...empire, you'll get high grade suicide gankers. Can't reiterate enough...a t3 killmail is worth it even with new insurance rules.
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Demjon
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Posted - 2010.06.16 16:45:00 -
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So the solution is to keep miners flyn the same old hulks they been flyn for years?
Market prices go up and down thats just a fact of the game. Next big war prices go up blah blah blah. Thats not a valid argument since the extraction rate for this ship is the same as a hulk. Moot point.
people can bearly suicide my current hulk much less a hulk with a battleship tank. A big group could but on this new barg, with +1 warp stab built in i at least have a chance of getting away or calling for help while you try to get my shield down.
For ships that have almost now offensive abilities the current barges have shockingly bad defenses. There is suppost to be a trade off gank or tank. Barges cant gank so they should have awsome tanks.
Is your problem with this the fact that ur gank ships wont be able to pop me in under 60 seconds? Afraid of a challange PVPers? In low sec and 0.0 im already tanking the belt rats because i cant kill them. The battle ships stay out of my tageting range and my drone might not even be able to kill them anyway. It doenst take much dps to push past my tank even with max skills right now.
The things I have listed are not requests these are requirements for the mining career path.
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Yuki Kulotsuki
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Posted - 2010.06.16 20:00:00 -
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Originally by: Demjon
The things I have listed are not requests these are requirements for the mining career path.
BWAHAHAHAHAHA *gasp* can't breathe *gasp* haaaa...
Originally by: CCP Lemur
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Lt Forge
Pilots From Honour
Aeternus.
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Posted - 2010.06.16 22:54:00 -
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Why not a planetcracker? If you mine you get % chance to find an artefact which will end up in a minigames in which you have to kill zombie-like creatures.
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Misanthra
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Posted - 2010.06.16 23:10:00 -
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Originally by: Demjon
Is your problem with this the fact that ur gank ships wont be able to pop me in under 60 seconds? Afraid of a challange PVPers? In low sec and 0.0 im already tanking the belt rats because i cant kill them. The battle ships stay out of my tageting range and my drone might not even be able to kill them anyway. It doenst take much dps to push past my tank even with max skills right now.
Actually not a ganker (I do consensual in null sec lol). And also a miner in empire to kill time. Its just a t3 is a target. Only t3 now is a cruiser and most of the reason I have one in my kill list was he was sleeping in the belts. T3 lives mainly by being more slippery than a fish covered in grease (speed, agility, bubble nullifier, etc). If an attacker gets past that...they meet the tank. T3 miner wouldn't have all that. We'll let it have your tank, still missing the agility and speed. Means the ravens/drakes will tag at full damage and the gun lovers will track and have close to 100% hit ratios.
Thats your sp up in smoke up along with what will be a 500 mil isk ship stripped. That and mining ships don't need more bonuses. Eve's miners flood the markets daily (everyone blames runners....missions do not pull in 3+ mil trit per hour which a hulk can do skilled up and bonuses from orca quite easily). Would make the markets worse if they actually pulled in more. You bring in 20 mil trit for the day on your uber miner and sell at xyz...competitor brings in the same in the same region (I have a charon, not scared to take the time to save isk when too lazy to mine for larger orders). He either has compete for sales at same price and see rock sales dribble in...or commence with the isk war to move his 20 faster. Both of you really need that isk, your price of xyz will be a fond memory of what could have been within hours.
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HeliosGal
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.06.16 23:59:00 -
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how about infinite warp stabs +999
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Whitehound
The Whitehound Corporation
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Posted - 2010.06.17 08:20:00 -
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Here some name suggestions:
Exhumer -> Embalmer
T2 Hulk -> T3 Chuck Norris
T2 Mackinaw -> T3 MacGyver
T2 Skiff -> T3 Gondola
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Party Scout
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Posted - 2010.06.17 13:10:00 -
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Everyone wants a new, bigger and badder ship. I don't think there is anyone who does not want that. But CCP always has had the idea of trying to give all ships a purpose. A bigger hulk would just drive the people out of hulks, and add nothing new to the game... Just a bigger hulk.
However, adding a T3 ship that does something different than the hulk, so it will not be obsolete, is a good thing. A ship that can latch onto an asteroid, and warp it to a different position, or do something different would add more to the game, than just the next bigger/badder ship.
Even now we have a few ships with really do not fit well. Procurer, and covetor. Procurer cause it sucks, covetor because it is too close to the hulk. Bringing a badder hulk would just put the hulk in the same place as the covetor.
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Aerilis
Gallente
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.06.17 13:41:00 -
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Cargo containers fold in your cargo! Like how you can flatten a cardboard box and it takes up less space!
Brilliant isn't it.
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Demjon
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Posted - 2010.06.17 18:04:00 -
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It doesn't really matter to me if they give me a new barge or just modify the old ones. The point is that the current barges use frigate size shields against rats and pvpers. they are sitting ducks and easily popped by anyone that feels like it. If they had more cpu and a few more mids and low slots we could rig them to do almost everything I have mentioned.
I've been flyin hulks for years and they tried to distract me with the orca and the rorqual but that is not what I want. I like to strip astroid belts for fun, thats it. it bugs me that players can skill up to my level in a barge in just a few months. (although pvpers you think they know how to mine are very funny)
I need a ship I can mine anywhere in for hours and hours (any pvper want to sit the belt with me that long?). I need a ship that has some durability to it, getting popped by a frig aint fun. I just want the tank to last longer against solo pvpers so i have time to call in the dogs (stupid vaga pilots =)). You have to take into account is that a barge in low or null sec has to tank the npc in a belt and whatever ship the pvper is using with a frig size shield. To do this I need a pretty awsome shield to last longer then 5 minutes. How long does it take to get a small pvp gang together from scratch in low sec and warp around, too long. I don't want to get locked in a belt by npc's with warp disrupter when a hostile gang shows up.
Until some of these issues are solved low and null sec are gonna be sparesely populated, npc corps are always gonna be full of experianced players avoiding corp wars. We miners are stubborn like that and we are the foundation of industry without us there is nothing to buy. I don't mind taking a risk but im not suicidal. Once a week mining ops bah, i mine everyday all day if i can, im not happy unless im mining. Just like pvper do at thier trade, or mission runners do at thier trade. ect. I don't care about the market I do it for fun the isk is a bonus. Only noobs complain about thier wallets the rest of us have billions layin around. Im talking about gameplay, fun, long term goals. I got nothing to train for so i pick up skills i don't need and prolly wont use outside of high sec, like mauraders, command ships, hacs, hics, ect. all of which i can fly because i didn't have anything to train for in the mining profession.
See my point?
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Taxesarebad
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Posted - 2010.06.17 18:31:00 -
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Edited by: Taxesarebad on 17/06/2010 18:30:47
shields should be increased. but a new ship wouldn't be good. hulks are flimsey a small dessie group can kill one before concord gets them but a new ship wouldn't help this.
also be a man Mine in a Rohk
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Party Scout
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Posted - 2010.06.17 19:23:00 -
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Oh, so you want a tougher miner? mine in an apoc. Their yield is pretty good, and you get BS class tank too!!
But that is not really what you want. You want to mine as good (or better) than a hulk, have more tank than a bship, and cargo bay bigger than 2 hulks. That won't happen.
I agree the hulk could use a little boost to its defenses, but a new, bigger-badder hulk is not needed in the game.
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