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Armi Tage
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Posted - 2004.12.15 11:47:00 -
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Please remove Station Warehouses/Vaults/Containers from Bonustables, they are neraly the only bonus I get from my SOE agent and are not useable in any way. True at some stations there may be a small need for them but i have already trashed a few dozen and still have a few dozen around. This station is not my base, has no reprocessing station (afaik they can't be reprocessed) and no need for them and I wont put up sell orders for them because every agentrunner at this station has some of them and does not need to buy more.
I want my trade goods back, they were a Bonus at least because I could sell them somewhere.
Put them at the NPC market so that anyone that wants some can buy them at the station where he needs them and the quantity he needs.
This topic may have been discussed already but I found nothing in the Subjects.
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Armi Tage
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Posted - 2004.12.15 11:47:00 -
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Please remove Station Warehouses/Vaults/Containers from Bonustables, they are neraly the only bonus I get from my SOE agent and are not useable in any way. True at some stations there may be a small need for them but i have already trashed a few dozen and still have a few dozen around. This station is not my base, has no reprocessing station (afaik they can't be reprocessed) and no need for them and I wont put up sell orders for them because every agentrunner at this station has some of them and does not need to buy more.
I want my trade goods back, they were a Bonus at least because I could sell them somewhere.
Put them at the NPC market so that anyone that wants some can buy them at the station where he needs them and the quantity he needs.
This topic may have been discussed already but I found nothing in the Subjects.
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Theladon
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Posted - 2004.12.15 11:59:00 -
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Yup...can't move them to where they are needed, can't recykle them, and everyone in the same station as you are probably got ****loads aswell, so basicly you can't sell them.
And if you DO decide to use them for sorting the meager lootpickings you get nowadays, you have to go trough all that unlocking before you can do anything with the stuff in them..
Basicly...they suck..
Have a nice day of missionrunning.
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Theladon
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Posted - 2004.12.15 11:59:00 -
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Yup...can't move them to where they are needed, can't recykle them, and everyone in the same station as you are probably got ****loads aswell, so basicly you can't sell them.
And if you DO decide to use them for sorting the meager lootpickings you get nowadays, you have to go trough all that unlocking before you can do anything with the stuff in them..
Basicly...they suck..
Have a nice day of missionrunning.
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Azur
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Posted - 2004.12.15 12:29:00 -
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Edited by: Azur on 15/12/2004 12:31:47
I do alot of missions but I haven't seen one of these as a reward yet. Must be sensitive to corp or agent. My normal Agent is Amarr Navy L3, Internal Security.
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Azur
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Posted - 2004.12.15 12:29:00 -
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Edited by: Azur on 15/12/2004 12:31:47
I do alot of missions but I haven't seen one of these as a reward yet. Must be sensitive to corp or agent. My normal Agent is Amarr Navy L3, Internal Security.
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Chepe Nolon
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Posted - 2004.12.15 14:17:00 -
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I've gotten a few from the the story line missions. I sell them for 100 isk each, just to feel I get something, and they are used by someone. If they later recycle for something like 1M, I wouldn't feel too screwed though.
As for getting them at corp hq, they are most welcome though.
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Chepe Nolon
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Posted - 2004.12.15 14:17:00 -
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I've gotten a few from the the story line missions. I sell them for 100 isk each, just to feel I get something, and they are used by someone. If they later recycle for something like 1M, I wouldn't feel too screwed though.
As for getting them at corp hq, they are most welcome though.
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Jonas Bane
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Posted - 2004.12.15 14:26:00 -
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Almost wish there was a dialog option like "Thanks, I already have 50 of those. I'll just take the cash." =)
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Jonas Bane
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Posted - 2004.12.15 14:26:00 -
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Almost wish there was a dialog option like "Thanks, I already have 50 of those. I'll just take the cash." =)
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Alasse Cuthalion
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Posted - 2004.12.15 15:35:00 -
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nooooo, they're MEGA handy! :( Tidied up my hangar since I got given 8 of them.
Station vaults need love!
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Alasse Cuthalion
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Posted - 2004.12.15 15:35:00 -
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nooooo, they're MEGA handy! :( Tidied up my hangar since I got given 8 of them.
Station vaults need love!
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.12.15 16:02:00 -
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It would be nice if they did a simple check first..
If someone already has 1 of the massive containers and 10 of the smaller ones then don't give anymore.
Or something...
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.12.15 16:02:00 -
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It would be nice if they did a simple check first..
If someone already has 1 of the massive containers and 10 of the smaller ones then don't give anymore.
Or something...
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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RL Malcontent
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Posted - 2004.12.15 16:34:00 -
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I wish they would make these movable in some way. I could really use these at our corp office but as things are now there is simply no way to get them there and the 110 station containers and 11 station vaults I have are WORTHLESS at my agents station. To make matter worse I can't even buy station containers at our corp from other players since we are based at a DED station and CCP still can't seem to work out allowing players to work for DED and there are no containers smaller than station warehouses on the market in our station. I do have a couple of ideas however.
1) Make these containers movable while they are packaged. There shouldn't be an issue with this since the containers can't be used in any way while packaged.
2) If for some reason there is a worry that by allowing players to move the cans while packaged,  then how about an NPC moving option much like transferring our clones from one station to another? I'd be more than happy to pay a small fee to move my containers where they would actually be of some use.
How about it CCP?
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RL Malcontent
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Posted - 2004.12.15 16:34:00 -
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I wish they would make these movable in some way. I could really use these at our corp office but as things are now there is simply no way to get them there and the 110 station containers and 11 station vaults I have are WORTHLESS at my agents station. To make matter worse I can't even buy station containers at our corp from other players since we are based at a DED station and CCP still can't seem to work out allowing players to work for DED and there are no containers smaller than station warehouses on the market in our station. I do have a couple of ideas however.
1) Make these containers movable while they are packaged. There shouldn't be an issue with this since the containers can't be used in any way while packaged.
2) If for some reason there is a worry that by allowing players to move the cans while packaged, then how about an NPC moving option much like transferring our clones from one station to another? I'd be more than happy to pay a small fee to move my containers where they would actually be of some use.
How about it CCP?
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Synthemesc
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Posted - 2004.12.15 16:57:00 -
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Yeah I've got 60 of these things now. But at least it gives me somewhere to put all that toxic waste and fertilizer I guess.
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Synthemesc
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Posted - 2004.12.15 16:57:00 -
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Yeah I've got 60 of these things now. But at least it gives me somewhere to put all that toxic waste and fertilizer I guess.
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Forsaken Priest
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Posted - 2004.12.15 18:57:00 -
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Lord almighty, it's not like lev 2 agent missions are all that rewarding in the first place (though they are fun for me), but come on. I've taken to getting so creative with these things that I now have seperate cans for individual items. 250mm....150mm....Engy skillpacks, Gunnery skillpacks....just to make myself believe there is a point to doing a mission where I'll get more. I know I work for the Caldari Navy and it is common tradition for the military to pass on surplus equipment as payment for a 'job well done' and think I'll just take it with a smile on my face (which in writing this I'm getting one cuz I'm just being a turd and I know it), I still go out drinking with the boys and throw them in the campfire....
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Forsaken Priest
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Posted - 2004.12.15 18:57:00 -
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Lord almighty, it's not like lev 2 agent missions are all that rewarding in the first place (though they are fun for me), but come on. I've taken to getting so creative with these things that I now have seperate cans for individual items. 250mm....150mm....Engy skillpacks, Gunnery skillpacks....just to make myself believe there is a point to doing a mission where I'll get more. I know I work for the Caldari Navy and it is common tradition for the military to pass on surplus equipment as payment for a 'job well done' and think I'll just take it with a smile on my face (which in writing this I'm getting one cuz I'm just being a turd and I know it), I still go out drinking with the boys and throw them in the campfire....
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Elita
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Posted - 2004.12.15 20:54:00 -
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 Originally by: RL Malcontent
I wish they would make these movable in some way.
When Titans make their appearance, it seems that their pilots will have permanent jobs moving station containers around. 
...if they can fit even in a Titan.
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Elita
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Posted - 2004.12.15 20:54:00 -
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Originally by: RL Malcontent
I wish they would make these movable in some way.
When Titans make their appearance, it seems that their pilots will have permanent jobs moving station containers around.
...if they can fit even in a Titan.
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"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." -Arthur C. Clarke |
Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2004.12.15 20:59:00 -
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Please Dont. I have a lvl 2 agent at my corp HQ wich drops em. Very handy
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2004.12.15 20:59:00 -
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Please Dont. I have a lvl 2 agent at my corp HQ wich drops em. Very handy
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Nelisa
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Posted - 2004.12.15 21:29:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Please Dont. I have a lvl 2 agent at my corp HQ wich drops em. Very handy
The point is though that not all stations have them and not all HQs are at stations with agents that drop them.
Hence why we dont really want them taken completely away.. just a way to move the dang things to somewhere useful to us. |
Nelisa
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Posted - 2004.12.15 21:29:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Please Dont. I have a lvl 2 agent at my corp HQ wich drops em. Very handy
The point is though that not all stations have them and not all HQs are at stations with agents that drop them.
Hence why we dont really want them taken completely away.. just a way to move the dang things to somewhere useful to us. |
USSBlade
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Posted - 2004.12.15 22:33:00 -
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Station vaults, warehouses, ect ect NEED to be able to be "looked into" from remote places, otherwise they are just like having abunch of regular containers, that you DONT have to unlock when you want something out of it.
Blade
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USSBlade
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Posted - 2004.12.15 22:33:00 -
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Station vaults, warehouses, ect ect NEED to be able to be "looked into" from remote places, otherwise they are just like having abunch of regular containers, that you DONT have to unlock when you want something out of it.
Blade
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Zeaia
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Posted - 2004.12.15 22:45:00 -
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How about another alternative  and supposing that CCP can accomodate this :
How about instead of having these massive things just drop as agent rewards wherever your agent happens to be located.... how about the agents instead give out a "voucher" for these (or multiple vouchers).
Then the people who have gotten these "vouchers" (may appear as a kind of single run BP -- or even multiple runs) for these station warehouses would be able to transport them to whatever station location they have an office in (or where ever they like) and be turn-in the "voucher" ( or right-click and "build" ) and they'd have their permanent warehouse "appear" in their hangar??? People could also "sell" or "trade" these vouchers (put them on escrow or even the regular market).
They are useful in multiple senses (if only to prevent things from being accidentally recycled) and I would also hate to see them go.... but I agree that the "usefullness" depends on the ability for people to be able to place them where they can USE them. As it stands, the inability of moving the "reward" to a home base is the limiting factor... and it is a severe limitation
Originally by: Armi Tage
Please remove Station Warehouses/Vaults/Containers from Bonustables, they are neraly the only bonus I get from my SOE agent and are not useable in any way. True at some stations there may be a small need for them but i have already trashed a few dozen and still have a few dozen around. This station is not my base, has no reprocessing station (afaik they can't be reprocessed) and no need for them and I wont put up sell orders for them because every agentrunner at this station has some of them and does not need to buy more.
I want my trade goods back, they were a Bonus at least because I could sell them somewhere.
Put them at the NPC market so that anyone that wants some can buy them at the station where he needs them and the quantity he needs.
This topic may have been discussed already but I found nothing in the Subjects.
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Zeaia
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Posted - 2004.12.15 22:45:00 -
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How about another alternative and supposing that CCP can accomodate this :
How about instead of having these massive things just drop as agent rewards wherever your agent happens to be located.... how about the agents instead give out a "voucher" for these (or multiple vouchers).
Then the people who have gotten these "vouchers" (may appear as a kind of single run BP -- or even multiple runs) for these station warehouses would be able to transport them to whatever station location they have an office in (or where ever they like) and be turn-in the "voucher" ( or right-click and "build" ) and they'd have their permanent warehouse "appear" in their hangar??? People could also "sell" or "trade" these vouchers (put them on escrow or even the regular market).
They are useful in multiple senses (if only to prevent things from being accidentally recycled) and I would also hate to see them go.... but I agree that the "usefullness" depends on the ability for people to be able to place them where they can USE them. As it stands, the inability of moving the "reward" to a home base is the limiting factor... and it is a severe limitation
Originally by: Armi Tage
Please remove Station Warehouses/Vaults/Containers from Bonustables, they are neraly the only bonus I get from my SOE agent and are not useable in any way. True at some stations there may be a small need for them but i have already trashed a few dozen and still have a few dozen around. This station is not my base, has no reprocessing station (afaik they can't be reprocessed) and no need for them and I wont put up sell orders for them because every agentrunner at this station has some of them and does not need to buy more.
I want my trade goods back, they were a Bonus at least because I could sell them somewhere.
Put them at the NPC market so that anyone that wants some can buy them at the station where he needs them and the quantity he needs.
This topic may have been discussed already but I found nothing in the Subjects.
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2004.12.15 22:47:00 -
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Making em refinable solves everything 
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2004.12.15 22:47:00 -
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Making em refinable solves everything
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Sc0rpion
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Posted - 2004.12.15 23:01:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Making em refinable solves everything
*SIGNED*
My corp has dozens of these things laying around HQ. Can't do a thing with them!
"The true secret to enjoying life is to live it dangerously."
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Sc0rpion
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Posted - 2004.12.15 23:01:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Making em refinable solves everything
*SIGNED*
My corp has dozens of these things laying around HQ. Can't do a thing with them!
"The true secret to enjoying life is to live it dangerously."
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Slithereen
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Posted - 2004.12.16 04:51:00 -
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** SIGNED **
Signature endorsed and behalf on part of the SOCIETY FOR THE RETURN OF COMMON SENSE IN EVE MISSION DESIGN.
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"Is it me or the bad guys just getting totally pathetic?"---Clover, Totally Spies,
"Hope is wasted on the Hopeless."---Mandy, The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy.
"Stars are holes in the sky from which the light of the Infinite shine through."---Confucius.
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Slithereen
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Posted - 2004.12.16 04:51:00 -
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** SIGNED **
Signature endorsed and behalf on part of the SOCIETY FOR THE RETURN OF COMMON SENSE IN EVE MISSION DESIGN.
_______________________________________________
"Is it me or the bad guys just getting totally pathetic?"---Clover, Totally Spies,
"Hope is wasted on the Hopeless."---Mandy, The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy.
"Stars are holes in the sky from which the light of the Infinite shine through."---Confucius.
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RL Malcontent
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Posted - 2004.12.16 06:35:00 -
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Actually making them an item that can be reporcessed doesn't solve the problem either. Not every station has a reprocess facilty. My agents station for example... 
I do like the voucher idea however that doesn't move my dozens and dozens at my agents station either.
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RL Malcontent
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Posted - 2004.12.16 06:35:00 -
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Actually making them an item that can be reporcessed doesn't solve the problem either. Not every station has a reprocess facilty. My agents station for example...
I do like the voucher idea however that doesn't move my dozens and dozens at my agents station either.
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Josef Ciaphus
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Posted - 2004.12.16 08:13:00 -
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Make them recyclable plse. I don't mind hauling the ores somewhere else.
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Josef Ciaphus
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Posted - 2004.12.16 08:13:00 -
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Make them recyclable plse. I don't mind hauling the ores somewhere else.
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Soulscream
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Posted - 2004.12.16 15:55:00 -
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Only two things are really needed, and they are already touched on in this tread:
1) Make these station storage units movable (voucher from the Agent to have it "delivered" to where the voucher is cashed in was a gread idea).
2) Drop the percentage for when station storage units are given as a bonus.
I am only capable of running level 1 agent missions myself. I have two agents I work with for the Sarum Family, and both are at 100% of bonuses giving station containers to me. That just seems downright wrong, especially when I have run over 20 missions each with the same result.
Maybe it's just a racial thing. I saw a Minmatar battleship the other day that looked like a few dozen station containers welded togetherà
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Soulscream
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Posted - 2004.12.16 15:55:00 -
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Only two things are really needed, and they are already touched on in this tread:
1) Make these station storage units movable (voucher from the Agent to have it "delivered" to where the voucher is cashed in was a gread idea).
2) Drop the percentage for when station storage units are given as a bonus.
I am only capable of running level 1 agent missions myself. I have two agents I work with for the Sarum Family, and both are at 100% of bonuses giving station containers to me. That just seems downright wrong, especially when I have run over 20 missions each with the same result.
Maybe it's just a racial thing. I saw a Minmatar battleship the other day that looked like a few dozen station containers welded togetherà
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Armi Tage
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Posted - 2004.12.17 10:20:00 -
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I don't get any of them from my Lai Dai Agent, because Lai Dai offers many different items as Bonus and i had to buy some to organize my stuffe but SOE only have Polytextiles, Antibiotics and the station thingys, guess what you get most of the time. Also no reprocessingplant at that station.
Simply remove them from the bonustables and put them into the normal NPC market, every corp sells them regarding to the corp info on the HP, why not change it that way. The peeps that need some can buy them from NPCs at the station where they want them.
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Armi Tage
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Posted - 2004.12.17 10:20:00 -
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I don't get any of them from my Lai Dai Agent, because Lai Dai offers many different items as Bonus and i had to buy some to organize my stuffe but SOE only have Polytextiles, Antibiotics and the station thingys, guess what you get most of the time. Also no reprocessingplant at that station.
Simply remove them from the bonustables and put them into the normal NPC market, every corp sells them regarding to the corp info on the HP, why not change it that way. The peeps that need some can buy them from NPCs at the station where they want them.
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Zrakor
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Posted - 2004.12.17 11:33:00 -
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This is in our Defect Tracking system, has been idle for a bit. I expect it to be fixed soonish. These station containers should not be given out as a bonus reward.
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Zrakor
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Posted - 2004.12.17 11:33:00 -
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This is in our Defect Tracking system, has been idle for a bit. I expect it to be fixed soonish. These station containers should not be given out as a bonus reward.
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Uggster
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Posted - 2004.12.17 12:13:00 -
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So does this mean that they will be "removed" if this is patched/fixed or could we find ourselves sitting on next years "Harvesters" 
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Uggster
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Posted - 2004.12.17 12:13:00 -
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So does this mean that they will be "removed" if this is patched/fixed or could we find ourselves sitting on next years "Harvesters"
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RL Malcontent
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Posted - 2004.12.17 16:38:00 -
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Zrakor, I'm glad to hear they are being removed but is there any chance of CCP coming up with a solution to get these containers movable in one way or another so that players can actually use them since they have been given as rewards or should we just trash them and be rid of them?
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RL Malcontent
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Posted - 2004.12.17 16:38:00 -
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Zrakor, I'm glad to hear they are being removed but is there any chance of CCP coming up with a solution to get these containers movable in one way or another so that players can actually use them since they have been given as rewards or should we just trash them and be rid of them?
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2004.12.17 18:45:00 -
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Originally by: Zrakor
This is in our Defect Tracking system, has been idle for a bit. I expect it to be fixed soonish. These station containers should not be given out as a bonus reward.
NOOOOOOOOOO 
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2004.12.17 18:45:00 -
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Originally by: Zrakor
This is in our Defect Tracking system, has been idle for a bit. I expect it to be fixed soonish. These station containers should not be given out as a bonus reward.
NOOOOOOOOOO
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Jack Strait
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Posted - 2004.12.17 19:02:00 -
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How about making them as agent offers? That way those who want them can take them and those who don't can decline them. |
Jack Strait
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Posted - 2004.12.17 19:02:00 -
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How about making them as agent offers? That way those who want them can take them and those who don't can decline them. |
Tau Stone
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Posted - 2004.12.17 23:04:00 -
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Edited by: Tau Stone on 17/12/2004 23:05:03
Make them pilotable (but unable to scoop objects in space, so people don't haul on mining ops with them)
At least then we could move them to where they would be useful (i.e. stations with a corp office/hangar) |
Tau Stone
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Posted - 2004.12.17 23:04:00 -
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Edited by: Tau Stone on 17/12/2004 23:05:03
Make them pilotable (but unable to scoop objects in space, so people don't haul on mining ops with them)
At least then we could move them to where they would be useful (i.e. stations with a corp office/hangar) |
Lefia
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Posted - 2004.12.19 07:31:00 -
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I like having station containers/vaults/warehouses as rewards but I would perfer 3 things done with them that have been said.
-Make them not appear as often
-Make them reprocessable (even if they only refine for trit there are uses for large amounts of trit)
-Make them portable from station to station (the waiver idea I like personally, or even release some BPOs on the market/research agents)
If they are removed from missions completely, then there either needs to be a way to move them, or they need to be offered at every station so that I can purchase them as I need them (They are great for organizing my cargo hold).
Originally by: hired goon
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Lefia
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Posted - 2004.12.19 07:31:00 -
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I like having station containers/vaults/warehouses as rewards but I would perfer 3 things done with them that have been said.
-Make them not appear as often
-Make them reprocessable (even if they only refine for trit there are uses for large amounts of trit)
-Make them portable from station to station (the waiver idea I like personally, or even release some BPOs on the market/research agents)
If they are removed from missions completely, then there either needs to be a way to move them, or they need to be offered at every station so that I can purchase them as I need them (They are great for organizing my cargo hold).
Originally by: hired goon
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Tyrrax Thorrk
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Posted - 2004.12.19 11:09:00 -
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I just want to be able to repackage them, and sell them to npcs, is that too much to ask ? :(
I don't have a refinery where I do missions, doh, sucks to be me.
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Tyrrax Thorrk
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Posted - 2004.12.19 11:09:00 -
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I just want to be able to repackage them, and sell them to npcs, is that too much to ask ? :(
I don't have a refinery where I do missions, doh, sucks to be me.
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Pesadilla
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Posted - 2004.12.19 11:12:00 -
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let them give 10k and 20k secure cans as rewards those would useful rewards and the ppl want them
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Pesadilla
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Posted - 2004.12.19 11:12:00 -
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let them give 10k and 20k secure cans as rewards those would useful rewards and the ppl want them
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0seeker0
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Posted - 2004.12.19 11:13:00 -
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Originally by: Zrakor
This is in our Defect Tracking system, has been idle for a bit. I expect it to be fixed soonish. These station containers should not be given out as a bonus reward.
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!
San.
Character "Widescreen" is a scammer; beware.
Check my bio for a list of known scammers.
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0seeker0
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Posted - 2004.12.19 11:13:00 -
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Originally by: Zrakor
This is in our Defect Tracking system, has been idle for a bit. I expect it to be fixed soonish. These station containers should not be given out as a bonus reward.
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!
San.
Character "Widescreen" is a scammer; beware.
Check my bio for a list of known scammers.
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Lord Anubis
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Posted - 2004.12.19 14:22:00 -
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any chance of covertin thease defects into some thing useful
You cant beat Death
But you can make the bastard work hard for it
wtb Jerek Zuomi's Insignia |
Lord Anubis
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Posted - 2004.12.19 14:22:00 -
[66]
any chance of covertin thease defects into some thing useful
You cant beat Death
But you can make the bastard work hard for it
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Lyah Moonshade
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Posted - 2004.12.19 16:43:00 -
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Edited by: Lyah Moonshade on 19/12/2004 16:44:36
I got a bunch of those things from my Lai Dai agents now, mostly they just get destroyed. Things that would make the system viable for me:
- Hand the containers out as before, but make them movable, either by folding them up and carrying them in the regular cargo hold or by being able to relocate them through the NPC for a transport fee.
- Move the containers from the bonus loot table to the agent offers table. That way, a player can decide if he wants to accept to have containers at this particular station or not.
Both would work for me.
Edit: can't spell
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Lyah Moonshade
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Posted - 2004.12.19 16:43:00 -
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Edited by: Lyah Moonshade on 19/12/2004 16:44:36
I got a bunch of those things from my Lai Dai agents now, mostly they just get destroyed. Things that would make the system viable for me:
- Hand the containers out as before, but make them movable, either by folding them up and carrying them in the regular cargo hold or by being able to relocate them through the NPC for a transport fee.
- Move the containers from the bonus loot table to the agent offers table. That way, a player can decide if he wants to accept to have containers at this particular station or not.
Both would work for me.
Edit: can't spell
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Armi Tage
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Posted - 2004.12.20 10:16:00 -
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Edited by: Armi Tage on 20/12/2004 10:16:25
thx Zrakor for the reply
I look forward to do missions for SOE again after that has been fixed.
But when they are removed from the agentbonustable, how will people be able to get them?
NPC market would be the best choice imho.
Edit: typos
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Armi Tage
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Posted - 2004.12.20 10:16:00 -
[70]
Edited by: Armi Tage on 20/12/2004 10:16:25
thx Zrakor for the reply
I look forward to do missions for SOE again after that has been fixed.
But when they are removed from the agentbonustable, how will people be able to get them?
NPC market would be the best choice imho.
Edit: typos
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Jenny Lust
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Posted - 2004.12.20 10:21:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Alasse Cuthalion
nooooo, they're MEGA handy! :( Tidied up my hangar since I got given 8 of them.
Station vaults need love!
you're right, but i got 150 of them now from my agent. So i can use one for ervery item i have. 
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Jenny Lust
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Posted - 2004.12.20 10:21:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Alasse Cuthalion
nooooo, they're MEGA handy! :( Tidied up my hangar since I got given 8 of them.
Station vaults need love!
you're right, but i got 150 of them now from my agent. So i can use one for ervery item i have.
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Metamatic
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Posted - 2004.12.20 11:55:00 -
[73]
yes they are handy, however having 100 as a reward is a bit OTT, i have given corp members and HQ DOZENS of the damn things, have them on sale AND have a huge stack of them - ENUF ALREADY!!
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Metamatic
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Posted - 2004.12.20 11:55:00 -
[74]
yes they are handy, however having 100 as a reward is a bit OTT, i have given corp members and HQ DOZENS of the damn things, have them on sale AND have a huge stack of them - ENUF ALREADY!!
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Vigilant
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Posted - 2004.12.21 10:05:00 -
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I guess the real should be are we keeping these damm things or ....are they going to morph into something else.....I have over hundred total scattered to the four corners of the gosh darn universe.....and Every damm agent...gives them out like 100 dollar bills in a ***** house....
So for the love god CCP....give us a heads up of when? and what will be... For example they will become "big piles of zyd" or something... 
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Vigilant
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Posted - 2004.12.21 10:05:00 -
[76]
I guess the real should be are we keeping these damm things or ....are they going to morph into something else.....I have over hundred total scattered to the four corners of the gosh darn universe.....and Every damm agent...gives them out like 100 dollar bills in a ***** house....
So for the love god CCP....give us a heads up of when? and what will be... For example they will become "big piles of zyd" or something...
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Mistress LadyAir
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Posted - 2004.12.21 12:35:00 -
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If you think 100 is OTT, my first level 4 agent mission (Damsel) gave me 500 as a reward! 
Those were added to the 100+ that I already had in my hanger from the level 3 missions. I sure hope that they let us recycle them into something usefull.
Originally by: Metamatic
yes they are handy, however having 100 as a reward is a bit OTT, i have given corp members and HQ DOZENS of the damn things, have them on sale AND have a huge stack of them - ENUF ALREADY!!
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Mistress LadyAir
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Posted - 2004.12.21 12:35:00 -
[78]
If you think 100 is OTT, my first level 4 agent mission (Damsel) gave me 500 as a reward!
Those were added to the 100+ that I already had in my hanger from the level 3 missions. I sure hope that they let us recycle them into something usefull.
Originally by: Metamatic
yes they are handy, however having 100 as a reward is a bit OTT, i have given corp members and HQ DOZENS of the damn things, have them on sale AND have a huge stack of them - ENUF ALREADY!!
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Ka Dargo
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Posted - 2004.12.22 15:08:00 -
[79]
Pleae let us refine the damn things, we could build BS from the minerals :)
- Ka Dargo.
[ 2005.04.10 14:41:05 ] Your 425mm Railgun II perfectly strikes Dread Pith Massacrer, wrecking for 1271.6 damage.
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Ka Dargo
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Posted - 2004.12.22 15:08:00 -
[80]
Pleae let us refine the damn things, we could build BS from the minerals :)
- Ka Dargo.
[ 2005.04.10 14:41:05 ] Your 425mm Railgun II perfectly strikes Dread Pith Massacrer, wrecking for 1271.6 damage.
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capt
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Posted - 2004.12.22 15:27:00 -
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Indeed just change it so they can be sold/transported and/or refined and all will be goooooooood
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capt
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Posted - 2004.12.22 15:27:00 -
[82]
Indeed just change it so they can be sold/transported and/or refined and all will be goooooooood
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Tete
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Posted - 2004.12.27 21:23:00 -
[83]
Any chance they become of some value one way or another so i dont feel cheated, please ?
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Tete
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Posted - 2004.12.27 21:23:00 -
[84]
Any chance they become of some value one way or another so i dont feel cheated, please ?
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Zopha
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Posted - 2004.12.27 21:50:00 -
[85]
Originally by: Ka Dargo
Pleae let us refine the damn things, we could build BS from the minerals :)
If they put blue-tack and duct tape in the game you'd be able to make Mimatar ships from them... ;)
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Zopha
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Posted - 2004.12.27 21:50:00 -
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Originally by: Ka Dargo
Pleae let us refine the damn things, we could build BS from the minerals :)
If they put blue-tack and duct tape in the game you'd be able to make Mimatar ships from them... ;)
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Stryker Zee
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Posted - 2004.12.28 01:18:00 -
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Edited by: Stryker Zee on 28/12/2004 23:58:07
Edited by: Stryker Zee on 28/12/2004 01:18:04
CCP, please consider making these items portable. Just as a box takes up MUCH less volume when it is folded then when it is assembled, do the same for the various station containers. The Station Container could take up 7500m3 when unassembled, the Station Vault could take up 15000m3 when unassembled, and the Station Warehouse could take up 22500m3 when unassembled.
In this way, only the Iteron V could move the Station Warehouses about (only with rare expanders at that). The larger indies would be required for the Station Vaults. Any indy could move a single Station Container.
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Stryker Zee
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Posted - 2004.12.28 01:18:00 -
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Edited by: Stryker Zee on 28/12/2004 23:58:07
Edited by: Stryker Zee on 28/12/2004 01:18:04
CCP, please consider making these items portable. Just as a box takes up MUCH less volume when it is folded then when it is assembled, do the same for the various station containers. The Station Container could take up 7500m3 when unassembled, the Station Vault could take up 15000m3 when unassembled, and the Station Warehouse could take up 22500m3 when unassembled.
In this way, only the Iteron V could move the Station Warehouses about (only with rare expanders at that). The larger indies would be required for the Station Vaults. Any indy could move a single Station Container.
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Trader Klyde
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Posted - 2004.12.28 15:33:00 -
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Are we going to have to wait until the January patch for this bug to be fixed?
Even though it's not a "game breaker" type bug, it IS a major annoyance for agent runners.
The first couple of them that I got was fun, but it seems I tend to get them about every 3rd or 4th mission now, which is cutting into the normal rewards and overall mission profits.
They can't be sold, the station I operate out of already has hundreds or thousands of them on sale by other agent runners... So there they sit, taking up room. Getting an item for a bonus reward should count for something.
I know they are a bug in the mission system, but, since many of the gameplay bugs have been fixed, could this one be pushed up the list a bit?
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From deep in space where nobody hears my screams...
Sometimes in fear, sometimes in anger, mostly just my singing style. |
Trader Klyde
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Posted - 2004.12.28 15:33:00 -
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Are we going to have to wait until the January patch for this bug to be fixed?
Even though it's not a "game breaker" type bug, it IS a major annoyance for agent runners.
The first couple of them that I got was fun, but it seems I tend to get them about every 3rd or 4th mission now, which is cutting into the normal rewards and overall mission profits.
They can't be sold, the station I operate out of already has hundreds or thousands of them on sale by other agent runners... So there they sit, taking up room. Getting an item for a bonus reward should count for something.
I know they are a bug in the mission system, but, since many of the gameplay bugs have been fixed, could this one be pushed up the list a bit?
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Riddari
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Posted - 2004.12.28 16:36:00 -
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Also make them able to accept GODDAMN MILK!
I have Dairy Products and other similar items that can't be placed into secure containers "just because".
Why? Is that another half-assed attempt at making something "realistic"?
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Riddari
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Posted - 2004.12.28 16:36:00 -
[92]
Also make them able to accept GODDAMN MILK!
I have Dairy Products and other similar items that can't be placed into secure containers "just because".
Why? Is that another half-assed attempt at making something "realistic"?
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Vigilant
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Posted - 2004.12.29 07:25:00 -
[93]
Originally by: Riddari
Also make them able to accept GODDAMN MILK!
I have Dairy Products and other similar items that can't be placed into secure containers "just because".
Why? Is that another half-assed attempt at making something "realistic"?
Heck at this point fertilzer and dairy products don't sound too bad as rewards... Just clipped over 550 Containers or so.....
Come ON....just remove these things....and make them BPC that can be used where ever once. and the BPC is dead....Container then is in place at that station... or make then big piles of ZYD
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Vigilant
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Posted - 2004.12.29 07:25:00 -
[94]
Originally by: Riddari
Also make them able to accept GODDAMN MILK!
I have Dairy Products and other similar items that can't be placed into secure containers "just because".
Why? Is that another half-assed attempt at making something "realistic"?
Heck at this point fertilzer and dairy products don't sound too bad as rewards... Just clipped over 550 Containers or so.....
Come ON....just remove these things....and make them BPC that can be used where ever once. and the BPC is dead....Container then is in place at that station... or make then big piles of ZYD
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Tarmon Never
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Posted - 2004.12.29 11:19:00 -
[95]
Why not make a change to the reward system?
Instead of forcing players to accept the bonus item(s), allow them to make a choice between accepting the bonus item, or receiving a bonus in ISK.
Ofcourse, this doesn't have to be a 1:1 relation with the NPC market. Perhaps 50% to 80% of the NPC value of the bonus items, depending on standing with the agent the player did the mission for.
That way, people won't be stuck with a reward they really can't use or sell, although they would still be losing some potential profit.
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Tarmon Never
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Posted - 2004.12.29 11:19:00 -
[96]
Why not make a change to the reward system?
Instead of forcing players to accept the bonus item(s), allow them to make a choice between accepting the bonus item, or receiving a bonus in ISK.
Ofcourse, this doesn't have to be a 1:1 relation with the NPC market. Perhaps 50% to 80% of the NPC value of the bonus items, depending on standing with the agent the player did the mission for.
That way, people won't be stuck with a reward they really can't use or sell, although they would still be losing some potential profit.
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Ky Vatta
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Posted - 2005.01.08 14:55:00 -
[97]
Guess what I got as a mission bonus? Yes, 24 (!!!!) Station Containers
....and about as much use as a chocolate fire-guard, or an ashtray on a mototbike....
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SeiferDarx
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Posted - 2005.01.13 02:06:00 -
[98]
Yeah, I have lots of Containers from my Soe Lvl 3 agent.
Now these are very handy things, only do I really need 43 Station Containers or 4 Station Vaults.
Last Bonus was
92000 credits.
one unit of Station Vault will be awarded to you as a bonus if you complete the mission before 2005.01.13 01:49.
141 Loyalty Points.
Is there a workaround so I don`t get these, and get something remotely interesting.
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Sergeant Spot
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Posted - 2005.01.13 03:47:00 -
[99]
If Station Containers could be refined, it would help a lot, and for bases without a refining option, the base should offer to buy them.
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Elusion Salvage
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Posted - 2005.01.13 06:15:00 -
[100]
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Making em refinable solves everything
*Signed*
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Uggster
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Posted - 2005.01.13 12:05:00 -
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I got 2 Items turning up in a station I had never been to before, checking these 2 items I found a station hanger and station container with a "Merry Xmas" message on them to me..
What else would be worthless enough to do this with ?
My heart says keep them, every fiber of the rest of my body...well...
Having said that some of the "Voucher" ideas or a "No thx lets have the cash" options listed in this thread have promise if implemented correctly.
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
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Posted - 2005.01.13 18:12:00 -
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It'd be nice if after these horrible things are removed from the reward tables, you could put up NPC buy orders for them, so that people who have 200 station containers and 50 station vaults in their hangar can make some money from them.
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Vigilant
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Posted - 2005.01.13 18:24:00 -
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Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
It'd be nice if after these horrible things are removed from the reward tables, you could put up NPC buy orders for them, so that people who have 200 station containers and 50 station vaults in their hangar can make some money from them.
Going on 700 Plus total for both of them....
Yep, reprocessable or selling to the NPC at the same price you buy one from them ( a bit less) would be VERY nice
I agree with everyone...they just need to be REMOVED from the drop tables completely
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Cypherous
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Posted - 2005.01.13 20:00:00 -
[104]
This is soooo signed.
My corp has 2 agent runner's namely me and a mate who use the same agent and between us we have filled our corp hangar with these awful things and there ain't nothing we can do with that many so please please either make them rarer in drop's or let us sell or melt them.
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ChernoChiel
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Posted - 2005.01.13 20:07:00 -
[105]
lets make sure the DB's overflow and give some more useless junk to agent runners!
*signed*
what on earth would i want to do with 30 vaults each in 3 different stations?! when its not even my HQ?!
also, remove the locking thingie, VERY annoying...
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voidvim
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Posted - 2005.01.14 02:15:00 -
[106]
/signed
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zaqq
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Posted - 2005.01.14 08:04:00 -
[107]
Are these also helping to clog up the eve database player assets ?
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Ben Zarba
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Posted - 2005.01.17 15:25:00 -
[108]
And you can't even see in them remotely which makes a farce of the whole remote assets thingy.
Ben
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