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Fret
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Posted - 2004.12.16 01:24:00 -
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and they have been petitioned, i pray they respond asap
"A milliary operation has no standard form - it goes by way of deception."
Cao Cao, Sun Tzu's Art of War
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Fret
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Posted - 2004.12.16 01:24:00 -
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and they have been petitioned, i pray they respond asap
"A milliary operation has no standard form - it goes by way of deception."
Cao Cao, Sun Tzu's Art of War
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Fret
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Posted - 2004.12.16 01:25:00 -
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Channel ID: (('convo', ((68101001101L, 52371001110L), (145137125, 1834352365, None), (147917989, 147768728, 1963166628))),) Channel Name: TornSoul Converstation Listener: Fret Session started: 2004.12.15 23:57:48 ---------------------------------------------------------------
[ 2004.12.15 23:57:51 ] Fret > grrrrrrrr [ 2004.12.15 23:58:00 ] Fret > that is so untrue tornsoul [ 2004.12.15 23:58:02 ] TornSoul > Nice try Fret [ 2004.12.15 23:58:07 ] Fret > what???? [ 2004.12.15 23:58:23 ] Fret > tornsould i have been 100% honest..... [ 2004.12.15 23:58:30 ] Fret > i never ecieved a character [ 2004.12.15 23:58:35 ] TornSoul > I sincerly doubt that [ 2004.12.15 23:58:40 ] Fret > and i never said i did [ 2004.12.15 23:58:47 ] TornSoul > I do not wish to continue this conversation if you dont mind [ 2004.12.15 23:59:00 ] TornSoul > Nothign good can come out of it [ 2004.12.15 23:59:06 ] Fret > well one sec........... [ 2004.12.15 23:59:17 ] Fret > 3 days after i was scammed............ [ 2004.12.15 23:59:36 ] Fret > i sent a petition to CCP.... [ 2004.12.15 23:59:37 ] TornSoul > nn [ 2004.12.15 23:59:47 ] Fret > they will verify that my account never recieved a character [ 2004.12.16 00:00:24 ] Fret > and i hope that it is tion...and not you that invented this scam
"A milliary operation has no standard form - it goes by way of deception."
Cao Cao, Sun Tzu's Art of War
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Fret
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Posted - 2004.12.16 01:25:00 -
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Channel ID: (('convo', ((68101001101L, 52371001110L), (145137125, 1834352365, None), (147917989, 147768728, 1963166628))),) Channel Name: TornSoul Converstation Listener: Fret Session started: 2004.12.15 23:57:48 ---------------------------------------------------------------
[ 2004.12.15 23:57:51 ] Fret > grrrrrrrr [ 2004.12.15 23:58:00 ] Fret > that is so untrue tornsoul [ 2004.12.15 23:58:02 ] TornSoul > Nice try Fret [ 2004.12.15 23:58:07 ] Fret > what???? [ 2004.12.15 23:58:23 ] Fret > tornsould i have been 100% honest..... [ 2004.12.15 23:58:30 ] Fret > i never ecieved a character [ 2004.12.15 23:58:35 ] TornSoul > I sincerly doubt that [ 2004.12.15 23:58:40 ] Fret > and i never said i did [ 2004.12.15 23:58:47 ] TornSoul > I do not wish to continue this conversation if you dont mind [ 2004.12.15 23:59:00 ] TornSoul > Nothign good can come out of it [ 2004.12.15 23:59:06 ] Fret > well one sec........... [ 2004.12.15 23:59:17 ] Fret > 3 days after i was scammed............ [ 2004.12.15 23:59:36 ] Fret > i sent a petition to CCP.... [ 2004.12.15 23:59:37 ] TornSoul > nn [ 2004.12.15 23:59:47 ] Fret > they will verify that my account never recieved a character [ 2004.12.16 00:00:24 ] Fret > and i hope that it is tion...and not you that invented this scam
"A milliary operation has no standard form - it goes by way of deception."
Cao Cao, Sun Tzu's Art of War
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Vex Seraphim
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Posted - 2004.12.16 01:30:00 -
[35]
hmm, this really is a GM business, not a player one. it certainly has no place on the public forums.
plus it's just tactless. ------------------- :: finite horizon :: killboard ::
:: bio :: blog ::
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Vex Seraphim
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Posted - 2004.12.16 01:30:00 -
[36]
hmm, this really is a GM business, not a player one. it certainly has no place on the public forums.
plus it's just tactless. ------------------- :: finite horizon :: killboard ::
:: bio :: blog ::
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Rthor
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Posted - 2004.12.16 01:33:00 -
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Fret I think that Tornsoul is beyond suspicion here so I think that it would be best if you renamed the thread to something else than Big Scam. You can do so by editing the post that started this thread.
At this point I think that its your word against one of BIG members. You would expect a CEO to side with corp member over someone not known.
I think that it would be fair for you to change the thread name to something less inflamatory. If you are right I think that you will be vindicated by CCP and that should be enough.
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Rthor
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Posted - 2004.12.16 01:33:00 -
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Fret I think that Tornsoul is beyond suspicion here so I think that it would be best if you renamed the thread to something else than Big Scam. You can do so by editing the post that started this thread.
At this point I think that its your word against one of BIG members. You would expect a CEO to side with corp member over someone not known.
I think that it would be fair for you to change the thread name to something less inflamatory. If you are right I think that you will be vindicated by CCP and that should be enough.
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Fret
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Posted - 2004.12.16 01:40:00 -
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Edited by: Fret on 16/12/2004 01:40:28 noted... post name changed
"A milliary operation has no standard form - it goes by way of deception."
Cao Cao, Sun Tzu's Art of War
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Fret
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Posted - 2004.12.16 01:40:00 -
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Edited by: Fret on 16/12/2004 01:40:28 noted... post name changed
"A milliary operation has no standard form - it goes by way of deception."
Cao Cao, Sun Tzu's Art of War
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JD's
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Posted - 2004.12.16 01:53:00 -
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Edited by: JD's on 16/12/2004 01:58:24 Tornsoul has already responded to the thread conferming it is you who infact tried and failed to scam BIG. Linkage
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JD's
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Posted - 2004.12.16 01:53:00 -
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Edited by: JD's on 16/12/2004 01:58:24 Tornsoul has already responded to the thread conferming it is you who infact tried and failed to scam BIG. Linkage
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Talyn Draco
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Posted - 2004.12.16 01:54:00 -
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My take on this whole thing Linkage -----------------------
And veggie in the back said "everyone" attack and it turned into a ballroom blitz! And Eris in the corner said "boy I wanna know ya" and it turned into a ballroom blitz |

Talyn Draco
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Posted - 2004.12.16 01:54:00 -
[44]
My take on this whole thing Linkage -----------------------
And veggie in the back said "everyone" attack and it turned into a ballroom blitz! And Eris in the corner said "boy I wanna know ya" and it turned into a ballroom blitz |

Rthor
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Posted - 2004.12.16 01:59:00 -
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Originally by: Talyn Draco My take on this whole thing Linkage
you should be quiet because your CEO claimed that he got 750M off this same kind of scam recently.
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Rthor
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Posted - 2004.12.16 01:59:00 -
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Originally by: Talyn Draco My take on this whole thing Linkage
you should be quiet because your CEO claimed that he got 750M off this same kind of scam recently.
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2004.12.16 02:00:00 -
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Edited by: Maya Rkell on 16/12/2004 02:07:55 Regardless of how this ends up, it wasn't handled well by the BIG member.
There are steps you can take for verification of this sort of thing, and I understand from talking to (with an alt) NAGA that they *DO* those.
I don't consider this reflects well on BIG. (I admit I'm not fond of FA for IG reasons, and that tends to carry across)
"As far as I can tell, It doesn't matter who you are, If you can believe there's something worth fighting for " - Garbage, "Parade" |

Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2004.12.16 02:00:00 -
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Edited by: Maya Rkell on 16/12/2004 02:07:55 Regardless of how this ends up, it wasn't handled well by the BIG member.
There are steps you can take for verification of this sort of thing, and I understand from talking to (with an alt) NAGA that they *DO* those.
I don't consider this reflects well on BIG. (I admit I'm not fond of FA for IG reasons, and that tends to carry across)
"As far as I can tell, It doesn't matter who you are, If you can believe there's something worth fighting for " - Garbage, "Parade" |

Fret
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Posted - 2004.12.16 02:11:00 -
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WOW, how many times must i say this? I did nt scam anyone....all of the things i have posted here are exactly how things went. Now i dont even care about the isk, i just want the truth to be known. I have filed a petition, but i wish i knew a quicker route to speak with a moderator, because i assure you all they will conferm my story. Just think about it..... Was i in this auction from the start to scam BIG? No i wasnt, i was actualy drawn into it...if u look back at the auction i actualy lost it, then i was mailed by axee and told he would except my bid even though it was 2 or 3 hours late. A sign to me that he was just looking to get the most isk out of this as possible. Perhaps TornSoul is missled in all of this, but i can tell you this I ONLY WANTED THE CHARACTER.
"A milliary operation has no standard form - it goes by way of deception."
Cao Cao, Sun Tzu's Art of War
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Fret
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Posted - 2004.12.16 02:11:00 -
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WOW, how many times must i say this? I did nt scam anyone....all of the things i have posted here are exactly how things went. Now i dont even care about the isk, i just want the truth to be known. I have filed a petition, but i wish i knew a quicker route to speak with a moderator, because i assure you all they will conferm my story. Just think about it..... Was i in this auction from the start to scam BIG? No i wasnt, i was actualy drawn into it...if u look back at the auction i actualy lost it, then i was mailed by axee and told he would except my bid even though it was 2 or 3 hours late. A sign to me that he was just looking to get the most isk out of this as possible. Perhaps TornSoul is missled in all of this, but i can tell you this I ONLY WANTED THE CHARACTER.
"A milliary operation has no standard form - it goes by way of deception."
Cao Cao, Sun Tzu's Art of War
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Ed Gein
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Posted - 2004.12.16 02:12:00 -
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*nominates for best scam of the year* now where is my cut of the 750 mil
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Ed Gein
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Posted - 2004.12.16 02:12:00 -
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*nominates for best scam of the year* now where is my cut of the 750 mil
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Talyn Draco
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Posted - 2004.12.16 02:17:00 -
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Originally by: Rthor
Originally by: Talyn Draco My take on this whole thing Linkage
you should be quiet because your CEO claimed that he got 750M off this same kind of scam recently.
um not my ceo. my ceo's ALT or vice versa...wichever...so why should i be quite again? -----------------------
And veggie in the back said "everyone" attack and it turned into a ballroom blitz! And Eris in the corner said "boy I wanna know ya" and it turned into a ballroom blitz |

Talyn Draco
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Posted - 2004.12.16 02:17:00 -
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Originally by: Rthor
Originally by: Talyn Draco My take on this whole thing Linkage
you should be quiet because your CEO claimed that he got 750M off this same kind of scam recently.
um not my ceo. my ceo's ALT or vice versa...wichever...so why should i be quite again? -----------------------
And veggie in the back said "everyone" attack and it turned into a ballroom blitz! And Eris in the corner said "boy I wanna know ya" and it turned into a ballroom blitz |

Rthor
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Posted - 2004.12.16 02:18:00 -
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Originally by: Talyn Draco
Originally by: Rthor
Originally by: Talyn Draco My take on this whole thing Linkage
you should be quiet because your CEO claimed that he got 750M off this same kind of scam recently.
um not my ceo. my ceo's ALT or vice versa...wichever...so why should i be quite again?
Because some people dont believe in coincidences.
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Rthor
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Posted - 2004.12.16 02:18:00 -
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Originally by: Talyn Draco
Originally by: Rthor
Originally by: Talyn Draco My take on this whole thing Linkage
you should be quiet because your CEO claimed that he got 750M off this same kind of scam recently.
um not my ceo. my ceo's ALT or vice versa...wichever...so why should i be quite again?
Because some people dont believe in coincidences.
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Talyn Draco
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Posted - 2004.12.16 02:30:00 -
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Originally by: Rthor
Originally by: Talyn Draco
Originally by: Rthor
Originally by: Talyn Draco My take on this whole thing Linkage
you should be quiet because your CEO claimed that he got 750M off this same kind of scam recently.
um not my ceo. my ceo's ALT or vice versa...wichever...so why should i be quite again?
Because some people dont believe in coincidences.
care to elaberate? -----------------------
And veggie in the back said "everyone" attack and it turned into a ballroom blitz! And Eris in the corner said "boy I wanna know ya" and it turned into a ballroom blitz |

Talyn Draco
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Posted - 2004.12.16 02:30:00 -
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Originally by: Rthor
Originally by: Talyn Draco
Originally by: Rthor
Originally by: Talyn Draco My take on this whole thing Linkage
you should be quiet because your CEO claimed that he got 750M off this same kind of scam recently.
um not my ceo. my ceo's ALT or vice versa...wichever...so why should i be quite again?
Because some people dont believe in coincidences.
care to elaberate? -----------------------
And veggie in the back said "everyone" attack and it turned into a ballroom blitz! And Eris in the corner said "boy I wanna know ya" and it turned into a ballroom blitz |

Dar Saleem
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Posted - 2004.12.16 02:41:00 -
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Originally by: Ed Gein *nominates for best scam of the year* now where is my cut of the 750 mil
I nominate this for the biggest attempted scam of the year
I refer you to the quote "Fret > that may not be alot to BIG, but it sure is to me"
Maybe he had had cold feet about the amount and decided that 750 was to much and thought he could get the character for free also why would BIG rip someone off for 750 mil which is loose change
By coming and posting the logs on a public forum, hes made the GM's job way more difficult, if not impossible to find out what really happened
Also never once in the logs was the characters name mentioned that I could see
This log has lots of little inconsistancies on his part that lead me think he tried to scam a free character and got caught.
But ultimately the GM's have the final say
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Dar Saleem
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Posted - 2004.12.16 02:41:00 -
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Originally by: Ed Gein *nominates for best scam of the year* now where is my cut of the 750 mil
I nominate this for the biggest attempted scam of the year
I refer you to the quote "Fret > that may not be alot to BIG, but it sure is to me"
Maybe he had had cold feet about the amount and decided that 750 was to much and thought he could get the character for free also why would BIG rip someone off for 750 mil which is loose change
By coming and posting the logs on a public forum, hes made the GM's job way more difficult, if not impossible to find out what really happened
Also never once in the logs was the characters name mentioned that I could see
This log has lots of little inconsistancies on his part that lead me think he tried to scam a free character and got caught.
But ultimately the GM's have the final say
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