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DangerosoDavo
Gallente
Random Selection.
Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2010.06.29 11:03:00 -
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Title says it all, with every patch no matter how small dt never goes according to plan, so whan we eve be up do you the playerbase think.
im thinking 14:30 Eve time
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Dan O'Connor
Cerberus Network
Dignitas.
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Posted - 2010.06.29 11:14:00 -
[2]
 Originally by: DangerosoDavo
Title says it all, with every patch no matter how small dt never goes according to plan, so whan we eve be up do you the playerbase think.
im thinking 14:30 Eve time
I'm betting 256,000 SP for 31 hours 
Item DB | Sigs
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fab24
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2010.06.29 11:16:00 -
[3]
First I'd rename the thread as 'Bets on the downtime being extended'
Then I'd bet on 16:30 Eve time.
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Paul Madrib
Gallente
Silent Soldiers of EVE
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Posted - 2010.06.29 11:17:00 -
[4]
well we are getting gift's from CCP, so maby Christmas ?
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CCP Navigator
C C P
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.29 11:18:00 -
[5]
Ok, I am confident. 13:30 
Navigator
Senior Community Representative
CCP Hf, EVE Online
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Ran Khanon
Amarr
Ministry of War
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Posted - 2010.06.29 11:21:00 -
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CCP TELL US, WHY ARE YOU CLOSED?
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fab24
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2010.06.29 11:22:00 -
[7]
Since 4 years I play I don't remember a downtime ending at the correct hour.
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RaTTuS
BIG
Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.06.29 11:22:00 -
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On 2 occasions in the past - planned DT's have been back up and running fast than they have said, many many many more have not.
also at one time, when the Delve npc stations where put in the game, several of us managed to log in about half way though the DT and register offices in delve 
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Marko Riva
Adamant Inc.
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Posted - 2010.06.29 11:25:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Navigator
Ok, I am confident. 13:30
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Dan O'Connor
Cerberus Network
Dignitas.
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Posted - 2010.06.29 11:26:00 -
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Originally by: fab24
Since 4 years I play I don't remember a downtime ending at the correct hour.
In the last year I remember downtimes ending in just under 15 minutes. Quite often so.
Item DB | Sigs
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fab24
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2010.06.29 11:27:00 -
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Originally by: Dan O'Connor
Originally by: fab24
Since 4 years I play I don't remember a downtime ending at the correct hour.
In the last year I remember downtimes ending in just under 15 minutes. Quite often so.
I meant patch downtimes, daily downtimes always end earlier.
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TheSardin
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Posted - 2010.06.29 11:30:00 -
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i think 14:00
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PeaceOfMind
Ethical Business Inc.
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Posted - 2010.06.29 11:41:00 -
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23:00 June 30, 2010
just saying...
Originally by: CCP Capslock
OH GOD THE TESTING
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Agisha
Gallente
Cube Zombie Consortium
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Posted - 2010.06.29 11:41:00 -
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Well I think we are all learning from our mistakes. So I bet server will be up at ... 13:15!
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Rashmika Clavain
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.06.29 11:46:00 -
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Originally by: fab24
Since 4 years I play I don't remember a downtime ending at the correct hour.
Yeah me too. I can recall plenty ending a lot earlier than planned. For example yesterday's downtime was about twenty minutes.
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eliminator2
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.06.29 11:54:00 -
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Originally by: Rashmika Clavain
Originally by: fab24
Since 4 years I play I don't remember a downtime ending at the correct hour.
Yeah me too. I can recall plenty ending a lot earlier than planned. For example yesterday's downtime was about twenty minutes.
he doesnt mean the damn normal DT that happen every day he means DT that have patches put into them or server moves or expansions that sort of DT geeze there are morons in eve alot of em :p
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I met Eliminator1..... I chewed it up, and spat it out. Now, he is my minion.
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Troxane
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Posted - 2010.06.29 11:59:00 -
[17]
Originally by: Ran Khanon
CCP TELL US, WHY ARE YOU CLOSED?
Lol video
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Mr M
Legion of Illuminated Social Rejects
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Posted - 2010.06.29 12:00:00 -
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Edited by: Mr M on 29/06/2010 12:00:46
I say 13:15
They've been quite good at finishing the smaller updates last couple of years, and I can't remember any that has takes as long as the last one.
Dammit, someone was faster than me.
Eve Tribune|EVEgeek|Firebrand Radio |
Lisara Khatam
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Posted - 2010.06.29 12:05:00 -
[19]
Originally by: Ran Khanon
CCP TELL US, WHY ARE YOU CLOSED?
This is the first time I have loled in a long time.
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Intense Thinker
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.06.29 12:09:00 -
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I bet a night with Arvald!
Originally by: captain foivos
It's not griefing, it's surprise PvP.
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enterprisePSI
Gallente
Unimatrix 0.1
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Posted - 2010.06.29 12:15:00 -
[21]
@ ccp 
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kurg
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Posted - 2010.06.29 12:17:00 -
[22]
Originally by: Ran Khanon
CCP TELL US, WHY ARE YOU CLOSED?
Guy holding camera flinches at 1:43, roflmao!
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DangerosoDavo
Gallente
Random Selection.
Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2010.06.29 12:20:00 -
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"Extended downtime on June 29th 2010 for deployment of the Tyrannis 1.0.2 patch. Downtime will start at 11:00 UTC and is expected to be completed at 14:30 UTC.
More Info"
Quoted from eve startup screen. Secretly extending the downtime is mean.
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Tobias Sjodin
Ore Mongers
Black Hand.
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Posted - 2010.06.29 12:22:00 -
[24]
Originally by: CCP Navigator
Ok, I am overconfident. 13:30
FYP
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Veilag
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Posted - 2010.06.29 12:23:00 -
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Edited by: Veilag on 29/06/2010 12:25:56
After the last almighty ****-up, i reckon within 30 mins of the actual stated resumption. (either-way)
LOL yea just noticed as the person below posted, its already been moved.
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akuera
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Posted - 2010.06.29 12:24:00 -
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TITAN 5!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Mr LaForge
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Posted - 2010.06.29 12:25:00 -
[27]
Downtime got extended to 14:30.
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Batolemaeus
Caldari
Vauryndar Dalharil
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Posted - 2010.06.29 12:27:00 -
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Originally by: fab24
Since 4 years I play I don't remember a downtime ending at the correct hour.
Apochribba and Trinity actually ended early, iirc.
CCP basically had their patching working well in the expansions before dominion. Then it went to **** again.
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Intense Thinker
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.06.29 12:27:00 -
[29]
Oh noes! I only have a 23 day skill going 
Originally by: captain foivos
It's not griefing, it's surprise PvP.
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Olusegun Obasanjo
Minmatar
CENTRAL BANK OF NIGERIA
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Posted - 2010.06.29 12:28:00 -
[30]
Originally by: CCP Navigator
Ok, I am confident. 13:30
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dexington
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Posted - 2010.06.29 12:29:00 -
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Originally by: Mr LaForge
Downtime got extended to 14:30.
OMG.. give me more skill point, my training queue is complete before downtime ends!
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greentusk
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Posted - 2010.06.29 12:30:00 -
[32]
Originally by: CCP Navigator
Ok, I am confident. 13:30
You must be new.
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CCP Wrangler
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Posted - 2010.06.29 12:32:00 -
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Be nice, he's not new, just very optimistic. 
Wrangler
Senior Community Manager
CCP Hf, EVE Online
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Shmuel Astucius
Gallente
Ramdon Industries corporation
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Posted - 2010.06.29 12:32:00 -
[34]
Originally by: CCP Navigator
Ok, I am confident. 13:30
lol no edit.
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DeBingJos
Minmatar
Between the lines
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Posted - 2010.06.29 12:34:00 -
[35]
Originally by: CCP Navigator
Ok, I am confident. 13:30
ROFL
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Taicha Serrano
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Posted - 2010.06.29 12:35:00 -
[36]
Originally by: CCP Navigator
Ok, I am confident. 13:30
Just sayin.
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Blasphemour
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Posted - 2010.06.29 12:36:00 -
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Skilltraining on main ends 10:30 eve time tomorrow...
Alt has enough time.
So, sine they have the SP distribution system in place, we can expect moar reimbursement? :P
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Y Berion
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.06.29 12:36:00 -
[38]
Heheh... he was confident
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Estel Arador
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Posted - 2010.06.29 12:36:00 -
[39]
Originally by: CCP Navigator
Ok, I am confident. 13:30
Free jumpclone service|1092 stations! |
GauteGodager
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Posted - 2010.06.29 12:36:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Navigator
Ok, I am confident. 13:30
Can I be one of the cool guys too ?
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Simeon Tor
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Posted - 2010.06.29 12:36:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Be nice, he's not new, just very optimistic.
Sounds like he should have a few levels of his Optimism skill removed.
Though it does make a nice change from all the doom and gloom of "EVE IS DYING LOLZ!"
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Kappas Katamara
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Posted - 2010.06.29 12:37:00 -
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Do we more more extra sp for todays extended downtime?
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Amaron Ghant
Caldari
Tritanium Space Whales
Black Thorne Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.29 12:45:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Navigator
Ok, I am confident. 13:30
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Rebal 88
Minmatar
INGEN Industries
The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2010.06.29 12:49:00 -
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Originally by: Amaron Ghant
Originally by: CCP Navigator
Ok, I am confident. 13:30
Ooops
I was going to say oops too.
And finally, I must say you've read my sig. |
Commander Lorelai
CONCORD Operations
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Posted - 2010.06.29 12:49:00 -
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Originally by: Kappas Katamara
Do we more more extra sp for todays extended downtime?
That would be great ^^, WTT additional "eve offline" hours for SP!
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James Rehnold
Amarr
Expense Solutions
OUTER-HEAVEN
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Posted - 2010.06.29 12:51:00 -
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****, forgot to set Mining Barge V to train. I am stuck with Astrogeology V. I will loose 15 days of training! I DEMAND REIMBURSHEMENT. /troll |
HeliosGal
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.06.29 12:51:00 -
[47]
well u win the bet the database update is taking longer than expected
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Naxie
The Mercurial Order
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Posted - 2010.06.29 12:51:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Kappas Katamara
Do we more more extra sp for todays extended downtime?
Yes, you will have more SP when you log back in if you were sensible and set a skill training that allowed for an extention in the DT period.
Simplezzz |
lonewolf100
Amarr
Red Federation
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Posted - 2010.06.29 12:51:00 -
[49]
Why is it so hard for CCP to keep the time limits?
geez.... I dont mind that bad but if you cant keep the time limit give yourself more time before hand.
I rejoice over every single slave I find.
For the Emperor. |
GoGo Rens
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Posted - 2010.06.29 12:52:00 -
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16:00 hours is my bet.
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Camios
Minmatar
Insurgent New Eden Tribe
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Posted - 2010.06.29 12:52:00 -
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I like when Dev post, even in this case.
It's going to take some hours more? Who cares, we have sisi!
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Galadriel Vasquez
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Posted - 2010.06.29 12:53:00 -
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I think it will be on time.
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Yuda Mann
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Posted - 2010.06.29 13:01:00 -
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Tell me CCP why are you totally incapable of predicting the future? Why are you not able to accurately premonise unexpected problems? Why haven't you hired Miss Cleo to tell you when unforseen problems are going to arise and your expected downtime isn't met?
I demand CCP fix these problems IMMEDIATELY or I will cancel all 1.73 of my accounts! I want more free SP too.
Oh, and fix the idiots that completely fail to comprehend what it means when someone says they expect the servers to be back up at some certain time. They are far more annoying than when DT's take longer than expected.
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fab24
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2010.06.29 13:01:00 -
[54]
Originally by: Camios
I like when Dev post, even in this case.
It's going to take some hours more? Who cares, we have sisi!
I don't think I got sisi.
LOL!
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Clueless Alt
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Posted - 2010.06.29 13:04:00 -
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I hope carrier V will be enough.
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HeliosGal
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.06.29 13:10:00 -
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titan V should be enough shouldnt it ?
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Arec Bardwin
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Posted - 2010.06.29 13:11:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Navigator
Ok, I am confident. 13:30
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Rasz Lin
Caldari
Maniacal Necro Terrorists
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Posted - 2010.06.29 13:20:00 -
[58]
Originally by: Yuda Mann
Tell me CCP why are you totally incapable of predicting the future? Why are you not able to accurately premonise unexpected problems?
what unexpected problems? EVERYONE KNOWS that CCP ALWAYS has problems and NOTHING is on time ...
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Calhontor
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Posted - 2010.06.29 13:25:00 -
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14:30 on 21/12/2012 is my bet.
Oh thats my bet for when eve will die not for it coming back up.
Erm... 14:10 for it coming back up.
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Scout Ops
Red Federation
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Posted - 2010.06.29 13:32:00 -
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accidentally the whole hamsters...
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Sphagin
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Posted - 2010.06.29 13:33:00 -
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If its not back in 21 hours, im gunna be sad. 
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David Grogan
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.06.29 13:35:00 -
[62]
Originally by: CCP Navigator
Ok, I am confident. 13:30
ok 13:30 has come and gone now 14:30 is estimated time
i reckon it will be closer to 15:00 probably about 14:50
SIG: if my message has spelling errors its cos i fail at typing properly :P |
Phosphorus Palladium
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Posted - 2010.06.29 13:39:00 -
[63]
Originally by: CCP Navigator
Ok, I am confident. 13:30
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Be nice, he's not new, just very optimistic.
Heheheheheheeee...
Entertain us moar my beloved devs! You can do it!
Maybe Oveur can pop in and do some dancing?!
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HeliosGal
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.06.29 13:40:00 -
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if its up by 1400 many happy pandas
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Anslo
Disciples of Night
DEFI4NT
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Posted - 2010.06.29 13:40:00 -
[65]
6:06:06
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novak churion
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Posted - 2010.06.29 13:44:00 -
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Usually I couldn't care less about downtime but tonight I overestimated CCP. My logic being.. after the most recent kerfufle (its a word... !) with downtime, I assumed they had overestimated the patch downtime to be safe. And I really wanted to try some stuff in eve.. so I stayed up assuming I'd be able to log on at the latest 13:30.
Anyways by the time servers are up its past my bedtime now... and mummy will get cranky and hit me if i stay up. Also mummy = boss and hit = fire.. for turning up late. and drunk (maybe thats not CCP's fault.....)
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Mallikanth
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Posted - 2010.06.29 13:44:00 -
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CCP should employ something like the "Scotty"* method of estimating how long something will take...
Think of how long this job will take you.
Multiply that by 3, or Optionally say it's impossible
Complete the job in or around the time you originally thought
Everyone thinks you're a miracle worker!
?
Profit!
*Scotty from the original Star Trek
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zaqq
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.06.29 13:46:00 -
[68]
LATE AGAIN..
fire the time estimator ffs
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Priss Eluveitie
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Posted - 2010.06.29 13:48:00 -
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Originally by: Mallikanth
CCP should employ something like the "Scotty"* method of estimating how long something will take...
Definitely this.
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Urgg Boolean
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Posted - 2010.06.29 13:50:00 -
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Seriously, I think the programmers should have recovered more sleep before trying to tackle the SP give away. And really, a day's worth of SP is what we would have gotten if there had been no outage. So I don't really see that we are getting anything "EXTRA" OR "FREE". All this work/outage for what?
For me, server start up is the one time of day I have the freedom to put in some EvE hours. Delays during server start up mean that my playtime is seriously impacted.
Hello STO...
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Black Recluse
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.06.29 13:53:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Priss Eluveitie
Originally by: Mallikanth
CCP should employ something like the "Scotty"* method of estimating how long something will take...
Definitely this.
Defo if they did that uderpressure scotty can do anything u need to get ur ass's a scotty ccp do it now and more free sp plzz
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god2k9
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Posted - 2010.06.29 14:01:00 -
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Extended downtime on June 29th 2010 for deployment of the Tyrannis 1.0.2 patch. Downtime will start at 11:00 UTC and is expected to be completed at 14:30 UTC.
Man 10mins ago it said 13:30
i bet ppl in ccp office are like
hummmm ok now change that up an hour and hope nobody rembers that it was 13:30
Guess what ccp u havent messed or brains up that much yet
i bet 1 mil isk its gona be after 14:30 but before 15:15
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Tanairi
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Posted - 2010.06.29 14:03:00 -
[73]
Ill Say Eve Will be back tomorrow after the next DT. CCP is the best in the world. Keep this good work coming CCP.
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Ishina Fel
Caldari
Independent Coalition
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Posted - 2010.06.29 14:04:00 -
[74]
Originally by: zaqq
LATE AGAIN..
fire the time estimator ffs
You do realize they only extended the downtime to troll CCP Navigator, yes?
Signature? What signature? |
fab24
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2010.06.29 14:05:00 -
[75]
Originally by: god2k9
Extended downtime on June 29th 2010 for deployment of the Tyrannis 1.0.2 patch. Downtime will start at 11:00 UTC and is expected to be completed at 14:30 UTC.
Man 10mins ago it said 13:30
i bet ppl in ccp office are like
hummmm ok now change that up an hour and hope nobody rembers that it was 13:30
Guess what ccp u havent messed or brains up that much yet
i bet 1 mil isk its gona be after 14:30 but before 15:15
Well no actually it was like that since like 1-2 hours but np.
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Julius Rigel
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Posted - 2010.06.29 14:07:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Navigator
Ok, I am confident. 13:30
facepalm.jpg
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baraka shogat
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Posted - 2010.06.29 14:10:00 -
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CCP... I am disappoint.
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Newbi McNublette
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Posted - 2010.06.29 14:11:00 -
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i recon the guy feeding the punch cards in has just got too cold in their new super cooled racks and has stopped to put on an extra pair of mittens.
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David Carel
Caldari
Random Selection.
Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2010.06.29 14:13:00 -
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15:00
Also, Davo, why didnt you tell me you made a thread with bets :(
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Shodai
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.06.29 14:13:00 -
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Patched and raring to go although no mention of the extra skillpoints in the patch notes 
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Esharan
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.06.29 14:15:00 -
[81]
Relax everyone! Look at the date! Its April 1, April Foo.............
Oh wait - no its not...
GET THE SERVER UP!!
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HottyChick
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Posted - 2010.06.29 14:21:00 -
[82]
Originally by: HeliosGal
titan V should be enough shouldnt it ?
How about trolling V?
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novak churion
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Posted - 2010.06.29 14:23:00 -
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Patch is now live but server isn't accepting connections. Loolius Caesar <-- some one make a picture of that...
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DangerosoDavo
Gallente
Random Selection.
Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2010.06.29 14:35:00 -
[84]
Damn my bets lost :(
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Regards
Davo |
Cmdr Keron
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Posted - 2010.06.29 14:36:00 -
[85]
Sigh. Past the second estimate. CCP really needs to hire some competent change management staff... This is embarrasing.
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Galadriela
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2010.06.29 14:36:00 -
[86]
Sigh...extended another 30 min
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Tisiphone Dirae
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Posted - 2010.06.29 14:36:00 -
[87]
OP, You won the bet.
Time has been advanced to 15:00 UTC - :)
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flakeys
DRAMA Inc
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Posted - 2010.06.29 14:36:00 -
[88]
Next stop 15.30 ...
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Sylthi
Minmatar
Coreward Pan-Galactic
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Posted - 2010.06.29 14:45:00 -
[89]
Edited by: Sylthi on 29/06/2010 14:45:48
So, how much SP compensation does it earn you when they are late compensating? I mean, is it a factor, or a power maybe? Just need to know so I can start calculating. Also, does it compound? I mean, if they are late getting you the compensation for not getting you the compensation in the first place, does that factor in?
I mean, for a game that is SO heavy in math and physics, you think they could come up with more accurate time estimates. Just saying.
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ReaperOfSly
Gallente
1st Cavalry Division
Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.06.29 14:48:00 -
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Well no, since there are always going to be unexpected problems that come up. What they should do is estimate a completion time far greater than what it will actually take, rather than being optimistic and failing.
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JacobsGladedage
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Posted - 2010.06.29 14:48:00 -
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Originally by: Sylthi
I mean, for a game that is SO heavy in math and physics, you think they could come up with more accurate time estimates.
Predicting the future is lunacy, not math. :p
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Anslo
Disciples of Night
DEFI4NT
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Posted - 2010.06.29 14:49:00 -
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If you don't like the wait time, leave. Don't you have something better to do than whining about a company's patch days and being a little late? Seriously people get lives.
You all don't know a single thing about running a company, let alone what it takes to deploy various fixes, additions and new programs (i.e. SP pool distribution). It's not easy, so give them time. I swear it's the same everyday, you lot just get more and more impatient.
"Give us compensation!" "CCP is a horrid company!" "You idiots can't do anything right!"
Honestly, if you think that way, take your money somewhere else. We don't need whining and b****ing here again and again every patch day. Go play an offline game or something that has no downtime at all, I'm sure that would be more to your liking. Don't forget to contract me your stuff on the way out. :)
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Sylthi
Minmatar
Coreward Pan-Galactic
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Posted - 2010.06.29 14:51:00 -
[93]
Originally by: ReaperOfSly
Well no, since there are always going to be unexpected problems that come up. What they should do is estimate a completion time far greater than what it will actually take, rather than being optimistic and failing.
Thanks for the feedback, but I really should have done a /sarcasm on and /sarcasm off switch, because I was being VERY sarcastic.
TBH, I am shocked that CCP is compensating us ANYTHING. In the 7 years I have been here this is the most meaningful compensation I can EVER remember them having done. I mean, they have credited the entire customer base a day or two of time in the past, but back-dated SP is MUCH better.
So, yeah, I can wait. It's just sadly funny is all that you'd THINK there would have been some pressure for them to meet the deadline this time.
Cheers!
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David Grogan
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.06.29 14:53:00 -
[94]
patch available to dl but server not allowing connections yet
SIG: if my message has spelling errors its cos i fail at typing properly :P |
Phosphorus Palladium
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Posted - 2010.06.29 14:53:00 -
[95]
Originally by: Sylthi
TBH, I am shocked that CCP is compensating us ANYTHING. In the 7 years I have been here this is the most meaningful compensation I can EVER remember them having done...
They are doing it because.... EVE IS DYING!
It is pure and utter desperation.
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kasi hasi
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Posted - 2010.06.29 14:54:00 -
[96]
There is one single question. Why they are setting the expected downtime every time too early. Everyone would be happy if they say:" Ok guys extended downtime till 15:00 UTC and they finish their job at 14:30 and not one hour here and one additional there. Next time CCP when you announce an expected downtime end publish the time you need and not the time you think it takes in a perfect world :). This is no flame no whine only a suggestion.
mfg
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Sylthi
Minmatar
Coreward Pan-Galactic
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Posted - 2010.06.29 14:59:00 -
[97]
Originally by: JacobsGladedage
Originally by: Sylthi
I mean, for a game that is SO heavy in math and physics, you think they could come up with more accurate time estimates.
Predicting the future is lunacy, not math. :p
True. But constantly failing at job-time completion estimates isn't lunacy, in just plain incompetence; no matter how you slice it.
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SNeAkYbRiT
Gunslingers Corp
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Posted - 2010.06.29 14:59:00 -
[98]
Originally by: Anslo
If you don't like the wait time, leave. Don't you have something better to do than whining about a company's patch days and being a little late? Seriously people get lives.
You all don't know a single thing about running a company, let alone what it takes to deploy various fixes, additions and new programs (i.e. SP pool distribution). It's not easy, so give them time. I swear it's the same everyday, you lot just get more and more impatient.
"Give us compensation!" "CCP is a horrid company!" "You idiots can't do anything right!"
Honestly, if you think that way, take your money somewhere else. We don't need whining and b****ing here again and again every patch day. Go play an offline game or something that has no downtime at all, I'm sure that would be more to your liking. Don't forget to contract me your stuff on the way out. :)
oh so serious.
Ain't playing games so much fun Cake anyone?
Look ya should all know CCP like nothing better than a Hamster sandwich at lunch, once they've eaten they will replace the server hamster's with fresh one's and all will be well again in the world/universe.
Should be. Estimated time of startup "SoonÖ"
Tea/Coffee anyone?
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Indimiel
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Posted - 2010.06.29 15:00:00 -
[99]
Originally by: kasi hasi
There is one single question. Why they are setting the expected downtime every time too early. Everyone would be happy if they say:" Ok guys extended downtime till 15:00 UTC and they finish their job at 14:30 and not one hour here and one additional there. Next time CCP when you announce an expected downtime end publish the time you need and not the time you think it takes in a perfect world :). This is no flame no whine only a suggestion.
mfg
Yeah, I find it an odd an irksome habit of theirs to extend the estimated downtime completion by like half an hour 4-5 times a patch. It makes you feel that the estimate is exact when they give an exact time a mere hour in the future, but that slips by and all you get is another adjusted estimate.
Seems kinda funny though that we are stuck grumbling over extended downtime deploying the reward system to compensate us for extended downtime, coz I saw precious little else in those patch notes...
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Ivoto
Gallente
Edurus Erectus
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Posted - 2010.06.29 15:02:00 -
[100]
15:00 now. Do I hear a 15:30?
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Beduit
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Posted - 2010.06.29 15:02:00 -
[101]
Originally by: Phosphorus Palladium
Originally by: Sylthi
TBH, I am shocked that CCP is compensating us ANYTHING. In the 7 years I have been here this is the most meaningful compensation I can EVER remember them having done...
They are doing it because.... EVE IS DYING!
It is pure and utter desperation.
When I quit EVE last year I would only see 30k players on. When I resubscribed last week there was 49k players on.
Dying? I think not.
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SNeAkYbRiT
Gunslingers Corp
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Posted - 2010.06.29 15:05:00 -
[102]
Edited by: SNeAkYbRiT on 29/06/2010 15:05:50
Originally by: Indimiel
Seems kinda funny though that we are stuck grumbling over extended downtime deploying the reward system to compensate us for extended downtime, coz I saw precious little else in those patch notes...
Ya get a free ship too, i know it aint much, but hey, Cake?
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Sylthi
Minmatar
Coreward Pan-Galactic
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Posted - 2010.06.29 15:05:00 -
[103]
Originally by: Ivoto
15:00 now. Do I hear a 15:30?
I'm confused. Which DAY did you mean? Today?..... Tomorrow?......
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David Grogan
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.06.29 15:05:00 -
[104]
Edited by: David Grogan on 29/06/2010 15:05:54
eve died years ago
she was a very old woman adam cried for a few days after :P
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Your Client
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Posted - 2010.06.29 15:05:00 -
[105]
They mean 15:00 Wednesday
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kasi hasi
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Posted - 2010.06.29 15:06:00 -
[106]
Edited by: kasi hasi on 29/06/2010 15:06:46
everytime i am waiting for the servers i hear this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXGhvoekY44
hf ^^
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Ivoto
Gallente
Edurus Erectus
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Posted - 2010.06.29 15:08:00 -
[107]
Originally by: Your Client
They mean 15:00 Wednesday
Pretty much this.
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skintsaint
Charlie Chaplins Raggamuffin Crew
The Commonwealth Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.29 15:10:00 -
[108]
****s sake..
another evening of no eve due to an extended downtime.
why cant they vary the times of when they start these things.
now not due to come back online till midnight West Aussie time 
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Intense Thinker
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.06.29 15:12:00 -
[109]
Sniper: Ghost Warrior releases on Steam here in an hour so I guess I'll check out the stupid new ship tomorrow, have fun with the DT all
Originally by: captain foivos
It's not griefing, it's surprise PvP.
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fab24
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2010.06.29 15:12:00 -
[110]
Edited by: fab24 on 29/06/2010 15:12:30
16.00 HAHA!
Edit : Fail, again, CCP.
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SNeAkYbRiT
Gunslingers Corp
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Posted - 2010.06.29 15:13:00 -
[111]
Originally by: skintsaint
****s sake..
another evening of no eve due to an extended downtime.
why cant they vary the times of when they start these things.
now not due to come back online till midnight West Aussie time
lol shutup ya moaning pom
Biscuit?
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Qnut
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Posted - 2010.06.29 15:14:00 -
[112]
bang, nn eve was fun waiting.
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m3talc0re X
Caldari
SandStorm.
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Posted - 2010.06.29 15:15:00 -
[113]
Extended to 16:00 now. It'll probably get extended again, too.
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Dont AFK
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Posted - 2010.06.29 15:17:00 -
[114]
come on guys its ccp... they extend downtime with an hour here and there... its open again 20:00 UTC
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Ivoto
Gallente
Edurus Erectus
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Posted - 2010.06.29 15:17:00 -
[115]
Originally by: m3talc0re X
Extended to 16:00 now. It'll probably get extended again, too.
17:00 I bet. They are giving the Primae one last coat of spray paint!
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Marmios
Rim Collection RC
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2010.06.29 15:22:00 -
[116]
I demand sp reimbursment for this delay :D
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Noriko Rei
Venture Racing
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Posted - 2010.06.29 15:25:00 -
[117]
If I might be so bold as to make a constructive suggestion, perhaps the folks who estimate the downtime could adopt a policy of under-promising and over-delivering. Add 2-3 hours to the actual DT estimate to set people's expectations, and then when the servers are up before that, people marvel at the fact CCP always gets done faster than anticipated.
...or remove the time estimates altogether. The estimates create reasonable expectations, and missing the marks creates dissatisfaction that's wholly avoidable.
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GoGo Rens
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Posted - 2010.06.29 15:25:00 -
[118]
Edited by: GoGo Rens on 29/06/2010 15:25:40
Originally by: GoGo Rens
16:00 hours is my bet.
This pasted from login screen,Extended downtime on June 29th 2010 for deployment of the Tyrannis 1.0.2 patch. Downtime will start at 11:00 UTC and is expected to be completed at 16:00 UTC
Yay looks like im wining so far, unless they delay it more .Whats my prize?
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Ivoto
Gallente
Edurus Erectus
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Posted - 2010.06.29 15:28:00 -
[119]
Edited by: Ivoto on 29/06/2010 15:29:29
A disco-colored Primae!!
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Ka choop
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Posted - 2010.06.29 15:29:00 -
[120]
Originally by: skintsaint
****s sake..
another evening of no eve due to an extended downtime.
why cant they vary the times of when they start these things.
now not due to come back online till midnight West Aussie time
There is a bit of unfairness in this, Australian players losing basically a day worth of play while a lot of Americans will just log in when they normally do, download the patch and don't notice any lost play.
So, would random downtimes be better? So it's not European players snatching all the nice ABC ores right after DT?
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Shemmy
7th Space Cavalry
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Posted - 2010.06.29 15:29:00 -
[121]
Edited by: Shemmy on 29/06/2010 15:29:55
Originally by: Phosphorus Palladium
They are doing it because.... EVE IS DYING!
It is pure and utter desperation.
Of course it is.
On a positive note, that's the first patch that has worked with the autopatcher on my XP64 machine since I installed it, so thanks for fixing THAT little pain in the ass for some of us.
But .. waaah no Eve, I'm gonna have to sit in the lounge and talk to my GF/wife and/or interact with my kids or go down the pub and have a beer or go out and enjoy the sunshine or do some work or sleep or eat or go to the bottle shop or ....
FFS every patch day it's the same old *******s. On the forums that is.
CCP do not do this deliberately. They don't build up your hopes falsely, just to tickle their sadistic urges. **** happens, particularly in software deployments where you are dealing with such a gigantic live system. Very, very few large scale deployments go according to plan.
Sit back, open a beer and relax. Hey, you could even watch Wimbledon or something, and I believe there's something called the World Cup on?
e: page 5 snipe successful, cap'n.
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Libin Herobi
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Posted - 2010.06.29 15:31:00 -
[122]
Originally by: greentusk
Originally by: CCP Navigator
Ok, I am confident. 13:30
You must be new.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Be nice, he's not new, just very optimistic.
I believe the correct term is naive.
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Grarr Dexx
Amarr
GK inc.
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Posted - 2010.06.29 15:31:00 -
[123]
Originally by: Ka choop
Originally by: skintsaint
****s sake..
another evening of no eve due to an extended downtime.
why cant they vary the times of when they start these things.
now not due to come back online till midnight West Aussie time
There is a bit of unfairness in this, Australian players losing basically a day worth of play while a lot of Americans will just log in when they normally do, download the patch and don't notice any lost play.
So, would random downtimes be better? So it's not European players snatching all the nice ABC ores right after DT?
How about they do downtime whenever they are at work?
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Renownedwolf
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Posted - 2010.06.29 15:31:00 -
[124]
Edited by: Renownedwolf on 29/06/2010 15:32:02
Linkage
This was made for a reason
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Larg Kellein
Caldari
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
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Posted - 2010.06.29 15:32:00 -
[125]
Originally by: Ka choop
So, would random downtimes be better? So it's not European players snatching all the nice ABC ores right after DT?
No, it would not be better. Untill the bloody server is in australia being attacked by dropbears, downtime is when the teechs at the server facility are at work, and the ccp staff in Iceland are in the office.
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Intense Thinker
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.06.29 15:33:00 -
[126]
Originally by: Shemmy
Edited by: Shemmy on 29/06/2010 15:29:55
Originally by: Phosphorus Palladium
They are doing it because.... EVE IS DYING!
It is pure and utter desperation.
Of course it is.
On a positive note, that's the first patch that has worked with the autopatcher on my XP64 machine since I installed it, so thanks for fixing THAT little pain in the ass for some of us.
But .. waaah no Eve, I'm gonna have to sit in the lounge and talk to my GF/wife and/or interact with my kids or go down the pub and have a beer or go out and enjoy the sunshine or do some work or sleep or eat or go to the bottle shop or ....
FFS every patch day it's the same old *******s. On the forums that is.
CCP do not do this deliberately. They don't build up your hopes falsely, just to tickle their sadistic urges. **** happens, particularly in software deployments where you are dealing with such a gigantic live system. Very, very few large scale deployments go according to plan.
Sit back, open a beer and relax. Hey, you could even watch Wimbledon or something, and I believe there's something called the World Cup on?
e: page 5 snipe successful, cap'n.
I was supposed to be ambulating by now 
Originally by: captain foivos
It's not griefing, it's surprise PvP.
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Urgg Boolean
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Posted - 2010.06.29 15:37:00 -
[127]
Originally by: Shemmy
<SNIP> Sit back, open a beer and relax. Hey, you could even watch Wimbledon or something, and I believe there's something called the World Cup on? <SNIP>
Good point.
And all the Tour de France per-hype is happening. "Can Lance, with his single testicle, win again and make history and become the only man to win tour with both *********, and later with only one?" ...
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Grateler
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Posted - 2010.06.29 15:37:00 -
[128]
Continually moving time back just makes them look like they have no control.
Not a surprise but would be nice to get a realistic timescale....
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Dr Lebroi
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Posted - 2010.06.29 15:39:00 -
[129]
I don't expect that CCP are bothered by the whining at all, in fact, probably quite the opposite. It must be quite financially encouraging to see that a large number of your subscribers entire existences revolve around your monthly subbed internet spaceship game. That's the sort of player base addiction you can take to the bank..........!
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Shemmy
7th Space Cavalry
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Posted - 2010.06.29 15:39:00 -
[130]
Originally by: Ka choop
There is a bit of unfairness in this, Australian players losing basically a day worth of play while a lot of Americans will just log in when they normally do, download the patch and don't notice any lost play.
So, would random downtimes be better? So it's not European players snatching all the nice ABC ores right after DT?
Yes there is some unfairness in this, but this is one of the pitfalls that comes with being worldwide and also single-server. You know the deal when you sign up, and when I was in Aus (east coast) for a year, DT served as a great reminder to **** off to bed so I was awake to go to work tomorrow. Sucks more for West Aussie TZ though, I agree.
Random DT is not the answer (because I don't think there's really a question about DT itself). Big releases on the other hand never start at downtime, they start much earlier. Perhaps they should start all these smaller patches before DT as well, with the aim of having the server back in time for normal DT, which gives them an hour of screw-up time by default.
The US is obviously the biggest market, and their schedules are always designed to cause the least impact there (commercial sense of course). Perhaps this would be an idea?
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Shemmy
7th Space Cavalry
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Posted - 2010.06.29 15:45:00 -
[131]
Originally by: Intense Thinker
I was supposed to be ambulating by now
TBH, I couldn't give a damn about ambulation right from the time it was announced, and I'm not bothered in the slightest by it's continued absence.
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Shiho Weitong
Caldari
Punken Dredophiles
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Posted - 2010.06.29 15:58:00 -
[132]
It's up.
So stop whining!
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Why is it called common sense, when it's clearly very rare.
I had a mind once, but alas, I seem to have forgotten where I left it.
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Zverofaust
Gallente
Locus Industries
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Posted - 2010.06.29 16:01:00 -
[133]
Edited by: Zverofaust on 29/06/2010 16:02:15
I really feel sorry for CCP. I've been developer on some comparitively tiny indy projects and I really hate criticism or when things go wrong -- and I only have to deal with a few dozen players. I can only imagine the nervous breakdowns some CCP employees have every time this **** happens (which admittedly is quite frequent).
I'm pretty bitter about it but I've also accepted that Eve is not some life-sustaining sustenance, the lack of which threatens my well-being and livelihood. It's a game, and there are quite literally thousands and thousands of other games out there to choose from if I really have an irreconcilable problem with CCP or Eve. I'll still play it and so will most of you.
Edit: Also, I lolforgot to set more training time on one of my accounts, so it stopped training just before DT started. I meant to last night but I got tired and fell asleep. Any chance of more reimbursement CCP? ^_^
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