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Gecko O'Bac H A V O C Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2010.07.12 22:12:00 - [151] Originally by: Obsidian Hawk I have seen that before, and that doesnt prove anything about drones building a jove battlestation or what ever. Ever consider that the jove lost to them and it is now infested? What about the drone dominixes? See this is why i dont RP, politics and speculation is worse than 0.0 politics. Plus im willing to bet its an oversight from CCP cause those have been in lvl 4 missions for a long time. Plus i have also seen it in some cosmos missions where it said it was a drone hive, yadda yadda yadda. ok my point, CCP re-uses a lot of models to do stuff. As they saying goes, believe only half of what you see, and nothing that you hear While on this specific matter I do agree, please restrain yourself: on other matters (namely, the sleepers), the background is much more consistent and the hints are intentional, like it's been stated many times by different devs. Once again, unless we find any info from other sources that can lead us to think that the model is not JUST that, a reused model with no obscure meaning, I beg you all to leave it there and get back to Sleeper thing.
Mithfindel Aseyakone	Posted - 2010.07.12 22:35:00 - [152] I provided my comments on the Jove station thing in-character in the Summit. It is established in fiction that the Rogue Drones incorporate ready structures to their hives. While some hives begin as a Drone Silo, some hives are built in pre-existing structures. Additionally, the location of the structure isn't that important, since the Drones do have the habit of splitting overgrown hives and then move the parts in different locations so that they can continue to grow. Of course, if that is the split of a drone hive drifted over the years from Curse, where the Jove had their old empires... yeah, wouldn't want to see the Mother Hive. And there's likely a ton of other hives on the route.
Eventy One Magellan Exploration and Survey THAT Alliance	Posted - 2010.07.13 03:53:00 - [153] Originally by: Gecko O'Bac While on this specific matter I do agree, please restrain yourself: on other matters (namely, the sleepers), the background is much more consistent and the hints are intentional, like it's been stated many times by different devs. Once again, unless we find any info from other sources that can lead us to think that the model is not JUST that, a reused model with no obscure meaning, I beg you all to leave it there and get back to Sleeper thing. I'd love to know how you know which 'clues' are intentional and which ones aren't.
Pottsey Enheduanni Foundation	Posted - 2010.07.13 08:05:00 - [154] Edited by: Pottsey on 13/07/2010 08:06:42 Ebisu Kami said ôBeyond that, rogue-drones do not even need anything like a space-station, given they are not depending on any kind of athmosphere or sealed gravity-environment to survive.ö ôThen give me one sensible reason, why, according to your interpretation, rogue-drones are building a Jove Space Stationö Now thatÆs easy. A station makes perfect sense. According to the recent rogue drone chronicle in Eon the drones are experimenting on humans. They have labs and chamber after chamber of humans to test with. Keeping those humans alive requires a suitable gravity-environment and atmosphere to survive. The drones have also been building/cloning human bodyÆs to walk amongst us. In the story one of the Characters pretty much said everything we know about rogue drones is out-dated and wrong right before a drone I think downloaded its self into her body. Anyway to expend the operations the drones building a station make sence. Even if drones do not need atmosphere or gravity-environment to survive. Building a station still make sense as they might want a place for research labs, manufacture labs and the like. ______ How to Passive Shield Tank T2
Auwnie Morohe	Posted - 2010.07.13 09:54:00 - [155] On the drone dommies, from the chronicle. Gallentian scientists wanted to create drones that could act on their own, some of these drones were huge and and had their own warp drives. They became unruly and buggered off. Also, Creodron is known for using a very modified dominix as their floating lab.
Eventy One Magellan Exploration and Survey THAT Alliance	Posted - 2010.07.13 13:43:00 - [156] Originally by: Pottsey According to the recent rogue drone chronicle in Eon the drones are experimenting on humans. They have labs and chamber after chamber of humans to test with. Keeping those humans alive requires a suitable gravity-environment and atmosphere to survive. The drones have also been building/cloning human bodyÆs to walk amongst us. In the story one of the Characters pretty much said everything we know about rogue drones is out-dated and wrong right before a drone I think downloaded its self into her body. Now that's just frightening. And the behavior of 'downloading oneself into a human body, is reminiscent of both Sansha's and the sleepers. I don't get EON. Where they 'normal', 'run-of-the-mill' drones in this story? Behaviors such as this certainly do suggest that there is more to the drones we see all the time.
Abrazzar	Posted - 2010.07.13 13:46:00 - [157] Originally by: Eventy One Originally by: Pottsey According to the recent rogue drone chronicle in Eon the drones are experimenting on humans. They have labs and chamber after chamber of humans to test with. Keeping those humans alive requires a suitable gravity-environment and atmosphere to survive. The drones have also been building/cloning human bodyÆs to walk amongst us. In the story one of the Characters pretty much said everything we know about rogue drones is out-dated and wrong right before a drone I think downloaded its self into her body. Now that's just frightening. And the behavior of 'downloading oneself into a human body, is reminiscent of both Sansha's and the sleepers. I don't get EON. Where they 'normal', 'run-of-the-mill' drones in this story? Behaviors such as this certainly do suggest that there is more to the drones we see all the time. There is this 'New Frontier' mission line (lvl3) that has some human professor living around rogue drones and later becoming one of them by turning into some kind of nano-goo, infecting other ships. Maybe they're not trying to download into people but upload people into the hive. -------- All I want is a better mankind.
Eventy One Magellan Exploration and Survey THAT Alliance	Posted - 2010.07.13 13:59:00 - [158] Edited by: Eventy One on 13/07/2010 14:00:53 Originally by: Abrazzar There is this 'New Frontier' mission line (lvl3) that has some human professor living around rogue drones and later becoming one of them by turning into some kind of nano-goo, infecting other ships. Maybe they're not trying to download into people but upload people into the hive. This is interesting. Where do you find this mission? We all have our theories, and of course we won't know until we know. My own theory is that the sleepers, who were experts in virtual reality (from COSMOS data) are trapped in their virtual reality. Notice that the re-emergence of Sansa's has only happened after re-exposure to the sleepers? No Sansha's is an imperfect mix of man/machine. If the sleepers are indeed trapped in virtual reality, and wished to escape, what would be the perfect platform to re-emerge alive from a virtual reality? Perhaps a dormant Sansha slave, with enough computing power to take the download, and enough humanity, to escape a virtual reality prison. As far as the normal drones are concerned, I know they were created by the Gallente (chronicles), but we don't know how they became sentient (other than an 'accident'). One possibility, (fraught with problems perhaps), may be that sentience may have been given to them by sleepers. This last idea would require that we explain how sleepers were able to access k-space prior to the opening up of the wormholes. Here there be dragons. Even so CCP Dropbears cryptic comments have fueled much of this debate/speculation, and so a little latitude is warranted until we obtain further clues. (*CCP Dropbear, if you're reading this, this should be taken as a clue from the players to GET ON WITH DROPPING MORE CLUES*)
Professor Tarantula Hedion University	Posted - 2010.07.13 14:11:00 - [159] Originally by: Ebisu Kami Then give me one sensible reason, why, according to your interpretation, rogue-drones are building a Jove Space Station. For themselves? I really doubt that, because they simply have no need for an air-sealed gravity-environment and hence would never ever invest precious ressources and energy into that. Perhaps they're planning on having humanoid drones soon. Could be the 'bad guys' for Inacrna. My deepest sympathies. Prof. Tarantula, Esq.
Pottsey Enheduanni Foundation	Posted - 2010.07.13 14:48:00 - [160] Eventy One said ôI don't get EON. Where they 'normal', 'run-of-the-mill' drones in this story? Behaviors such as this certainly do suggest that there is more to the drones we see all the time.ö It confirmed what we expected. Worker droned are just that run of the mill basic drones doing a job. But each hive has more intelligent drone(s) that run things. Hives are not united each hive is its own individual mind with each mind having its own goals. It went on to say some hives ignore humans, some hives sturdy humans and listed what other hives thought of humans. By hive I think itÆs more like a Queen Bee type setup. Not a hive with all the drones linked together as one intelligence. More worked drones that follow what the queen drone says. Although I am not sure the word queen is the best worse to use. This one hive was trying to unite all the other hives and drone minds against humans via shared hatred of us. He didnÆt want to wipe out humans. He wanted to reduce humans down to a few million and leave them all on one planet in a controlled environment. I didnÆt explain the body bit very well. What the drone mind did was clone a body from a captured human. Used parts of that humanÆs memory in the body but tweaked and removed bits. This human did not know she was created by the drones. She still thought she was the original person. As for the downloading bit I will speak to you in game about it. I would like your interpretation as it didnÆt say the drone was downloading into bodies. It just strongly sounded like it. ______ How to Passive Shield Tank T2

Gecko O'Bac H A V O C Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2010.07.13 20:17:00 - [161] Originally by: Eventy One Originally by: Gecko O'Bac While on this specific matter I do agree, please restrain yourself: on other matters (namely, the sleepers), the background is much more consistent and the hints are intentional, like it's been stated many times by different devs. Once again, unless we find any info from other sources that can lead us to think that the model is not JUST that, a reused model with no obscure meaning, I beg you all to leave it there and get back to Sleeper thing. I'd love to know how you know which 'clues' are intentional and which ones aren't. I don't, but a single "structure" that uses the same model as a jovian structure, especially since it's been there for quite a while IIRC, quite before the new zones and the new interest in the background of eve, doesn't sound to me like a clue just coincidence and asset recycling (By ccp, not drones). Like I said though, if we get other, DIFFERENT things that point in this direction then I'm all for reviewing my position. That said: all the info on the rogue drones is interesting, though I would say it's necessarily linked to Sleepers, Jovians or Sansha... Perhaps they are evolving on their own. Emergent systems are just that: stupid agents (like the drones) that cooperate to create something bigger, demonstrating a collective intelligence superior to the sum of the parts. That's probably what's happening with drones.
Nybbas Guiding Hand Social Club Dystopia Alliance	Posted - 2010.07.13 21:23:00 - [162] Keep in mind that in The Eighth Plague story, which was written in 2005, the rogue drones infiltrated a member of Amarr politics, and influenced the Amarr Empire to withdraw forces from the area where their hive was. They've been manipulating humans and capsuleers for a while now, we just haven't noticed.
Gecko O'Bac H A V O C Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2010.07.13 22:35:00 - [163] Originally by: Nybbas Keep in mind that in The Eighth Plague story, which was written in 2005, the rogue drones infiltrated a member of Amarr politics, and influenced the Amarr Empire to withdraw forces from the area where their hive was. They've been manipulating humans and capsuleers for a while now, we just haven't noticed. Yeah but... How much of it has resonance in game? I mean, IIRC in 2005 there wasn't much activity... The rp events were kinda... Standalone? Not like what's going on now... Somebody got a hand on the helm and steered on the right course finally, but there's probably some "retconning" to do, at least as far as ingame info goes.
Nybbas Guiding Hand Social Club Dystopia Alliance	Posted - 2010.07.13 22:54:00 - [164] Originally by: Gecko O'Bac Yeah but... How much of it has resonance in game? I mean, IIRC in 2005 there wasn't much activity... The rp events were kinda... Standalone? Not like what's going on now... Somebody got a hand on the helm and steered on the right course finally, but there's probably some "retconning" to do, at least as far as ingame info goes. The story of Eve Online was written long, long before it became available to us.
Gecko O'Bac H A V O C Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2010.07.13 23:21:00 - [165] Originally by: Nybbas Originally by: Gecko O'Bac Yeah but... How much of it has resonance in game? I mean, IIRC in 2005 there wasn't much activity... The rp events were kinda... Standalone? Not like what's going on now... Somebody got a hand on the helm and steered on the right course finally, but there's probably some "retconning" to do, at least as far as ingame info goes. The story of Eve Online was written long, long before it became available to us. Possible but unlikely. With unlikely I mean that it's unlikely that what was written 8 9 or 10 years ago is still completely valid. Much more likely there have been rewrites, especially since not all of the original guys working on eve are working on it now, and with the addition of White Wolf to CCP's assets, they probably have better storytellers than they had at the beginning. Also, storyline is also tied to what happens in game, and what happens in game is tied to what features get released. While CCP has a lot of foresight and planning when it comes to features (Incarna has been in the plans for a long time, factional warfare as well, and so on), I doubt (and I will till a CCP employee brings me the proof I'm wrong) that they had known, for examples, that they were going to introduce T3s through the interaction with the Sleeper race and all the background info that was released at the same time. Or that when eve launched they knew the Sanshas would get through Sleeper space into Jovian space to do whatever... And EVEN IF ALL OF THAT WAS TRUE, ingame info at the start of the game was different in places... Different missions, different models, different everything. It's modified at least a couple of times. I strongly believe that while they do it with a lot of foreplanning, the storyline of EVE is quite fluid and evolving, not already planned till its ending.
Saul Dhampir Caldari Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.07.14 00:10:00 - [166] Edited by: Saul Dhampir on 14/07/2010 00:11:40 Here and on this other thread, there has been much analysis of Sleeper structures. There is also a lot of speculation about the respective time periods with which each culture existed. Looking at the descriptions of Talocan structures a few things stand out that may be worth further consideration: - Talcoan society was mobile: ôThe central piece of this Talocan station is the Polestar, the nerve center of the complex and the heart of Talocan survival. Though dilapidated and unusable, the Polestar¦s outer hull is breached in many parts. Its propulsion jets and mini-generators are destroyed and decaying. From the burn marks around the propulsion thrusters, this Polestar has been jettisoned many times as a necessary structure for a migrant culture, but in this condition the Polestar¦s current location will remain its last.ö - It was suggested in these theads that there was a similarity between the Talocan and ancient American societies, in particular about the use of slaves: ôAmidst the ruins of this Talocan outpost, the exchange depot looms, its presence foreboding. Judging from the wreckage inside, the depot was either used for imprisonment or cultural exchange; eerily, there seems to be very little difference between the two. Whatever its purpose, this structure is rather prevalent among the outposts, displaying its importance in Talocan society.ö
Myrkala Minmatar Interstellar Empire Warped Aggression	Posted - 2010.07.14 02:06:00 - [167] "I've figured it out! Sleepers are inactive accounts!" - Originally by: Plumpy McPudding Minmatar? More like Winmatar.
Eventy One Magellan Exploration and Survey THAT Alliance	Posted - 2010.07.14 06:55:00 - [168] Originally by: Saul Dhampir It was suggested in these theads that there was a similarity between the Talocan and ancient American societies, in particular about the use of slaves: ôAmidst the ruins of this Talocan outpost, the exchange depot looms, its presence foreboding. Judging from the wreckage inside, the depot was either used for imprisonment or cultural exchange; eerily, there seems to be very little difference between the two. Whatever its purpose, this structure is rather prevalent among the outposts, displaying its importance in Talocan society.ö Which is interesting because this idea has gone around and come back again - that the ancient races are just different names for the modern ones. I may be wrong but the region that seems to produce the most ancient Talocan items was the Minmatar COSMOS site. Similarly, the Yan Jung items are found in Gallente Space, Takmahl technology found in Araz (Amarr) leaving the sleepers for the Caldari COSMOS site.
lisuuu	Posted - 2010.07.14 08:05:00 - [169] Originally by: Emanuelle Jasmine thats what you call asset recycling CCP mission Dev: I have made a drone mission but i need some new drone structure, make one art dept.! CCP art guy: I will just reuse this never-used jovian station and color change all green to red, no one will ever know and you have your model ready today. CCP mission dev: Great, GOGO rapid mission development! ... months later EVE player with no life at all: w00t!!! after all this years of comparing art ingame to find proof for my tinfoilhattery, this drone structure looks like a jovian battlestation! my life was not fn vein! Epic win!
Gecko O'Bac H A V O C Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2010.07.14 10:53:00 - [170] Originally by: Eventy One Originally by: Saul Dhampir It was suggested in these theads that there was a similarity between the Talocan and ancient American societies, in particular about the use of slaves: ôAmidst the ruins of this Talocan outpost, the exchange depot looms, its presence foreboding. Judging from the wreckage inside, the depot was either used for imprisonment or cultural exchange; eerily, there seems to be very little difference between the two. Whatever its purpose, this structure is rather prevalent among the outposts, displaying its importance in Talocan society.ö Which is interesting because this idea has gone around and come back again - that the ancient races are just different names for the modern ones. I may be wrong but the region that seems to produce the most ancient Talocan items was the Minmatar COSMOS site. Similarly, the Yan Jung items are found in Gallente Space, Takmahl technology found in Araz (Amarr) leaving the sleepers for the Caldari COSMOS site. This is certainly a possibility, at least for some races... Though we must remember that while central europeans do descend from the Romans, they are not, certainly, Roman anymore (even though they may still use buildings, structures and even parts of the language). Also it's possible that the current races come from splinters of the old ones, otherwise a loss of technology so comprehensive would be hard to explain... And finally I believe that the Amarr were there from the beginning, in some form or other, and they went through a religious dark age that slowed their progress. Thus there may be traces of the Amarr empire of old (or whatever the old Amarr race was called...)

Freyya Advanced Planetary Exports Intergalactic Exports Group	Posted - 2010.07.14 11:04:00 - [171] I've spent a good year and a half researching the topic of Ancients, Jove, Enheduanni etc. etc. and even started writing a novel of sorts to depict my findings after some discussions with the info Pottsey already found and archived. Even attempted to contact CCP story writers for more info so i could accuratly fill in the blanks but ofcourse that request was shot down due to apparant reasons . Shortly after i finished the story board and made the first few chapters CCP decided in their infinite wisdom to start including actual and new lore about the Sleepers and to a lesser extent the Talocan so my storyboard became obsolete with every new patch of info that became available, disabling me to continue the story i was trying to unfold since it no longer depicted the "truth" i formed from all previous info found. All in all i now conclude that while there is alot of information to be found everywhere, CCP story writers are laughing their collective balls of at us ants trying to solve the puzzle while we might not even have 1/10th of the neccessary information required to actually get anywhere usefull. This mainly since their story material is probably intertwined with 5-10 of the coming expansions and us running the stories before they are released is ofcourse a killjoy. Sure there's alot of information available but even with the utmost basic and very cryptic hints CCP story people have given us there is no way those can lead to decyphering the enigma in the coming future. There is probably information in ALL the chronicles and ig/oog sources like missions/EON/novels etc but without a direct link to the particular information described many will stay hidden until it is revealed that the information in fact has something to do with the main story itself. The history of EvE and it's story is he thick red line through all that happens within EvE but 9/10th of the red line hasn't been drawn yet. Like i said before; all we are atm is ants running around blatant to the truth of the bigger picture since we've been trapped on an island surrounded by water. Once the supreme beings build a new bridge for us we'll get a bit further but only to the next island. Until all is revealed the supreme beings (CCP) are laughing their balls off with reading what theories we all put forth. That said, perhaps one lucky sob will guess the whole thing out of the blue and it still won't be acknowleged by CCP ___________ NOW COLLECTING ISD AND CCP AUTOGRAPHS It'll be worth something someday. -Rauth
Gecko O'Bac H A V O C Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2010.07.14 12:15:00 - [172] Originally by: Freyya I've spent a good year and a half researching the topic of Ancients, Jove, Enheduanni etc. etc. and even started writing a novel of sorts to depict my findings after some discussions with the info Pottsey already found and archived. Even attempted to contact CCP story writers for more info so i could accuratly fill in the blanks but ofcourse that request was shot down due to apparant reasons . Shortly after i finished the story board and made the first few chapters CCP decided in their infinite wisdom to start including actual and new lore about the Sleepers and to a lesser extent the Talocan so my storyboard became obsolete with every new patch of info that became available, disabling me to continue the story i was trying to unfold since it no longer depicted the "truth" i formed from all previous info found. All in all i now conclude that while there is alot of information to be found everywhere, CCP story writers are laughing their collective balls of at us ants trying to solve the puzzle while we might not even have 1/10th of the neccessary information required to actually get anywhere usefull. This mainly since their story material is probably intertwined with 5-10 of the coming expansions and us running the stories before they are released is ofcourse a killjoy. Sure there's alot of information available but even with the utmost basic and very cryptic hints CCP story people have given us there is no way those can lead to decyphering the enigma in the coming future. There is probably information in ALL the chronicles and ig/oog sources like missions/EON/novels etc but without a direct link to the particular information described many will stay hidden until it is revealed that the information in fact has something to do with the main story itself. The history of EvE and it's story is he thick red line through all that happens within EvE but 9/10th of the red line hasn't been drawn yet. Like i said before; all we are atm is ants running around blatant to the truth of the bigger picture since we've been trapped on an island surrounded by water. Once the supreme beings build a new bridge for us we'll get a bit further but only to the next island. Until all is revealed the supreme beings (CCP) are laughing their balls off with reading what theories we all put forth. That said, perhaps one lucky sob will guess the whole thing out of the blue and it still won't be acknowleged by CCP Happiness is a voyage, not a destination.
Jowen Datloran Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2010.07.14 12:26:00 - [173] Ants I would say not, but people here are more dreamers than investigators; they come of with the explanation (story) that they like the best themselves instead of the one most evidence support. To support their story, they only regard the few pieces of the puzzle and dismiss all remaining pieces as non-relevant or something others can have the task of fitting into the explanation. Of course, most people know only very few pieces so error is excused. Sure, this is a fictional mystery made by somebody at CCP but hey, CIS is fiction mysteries too and they manage to be quite entertaining to follow and solve in advance. Of course we must assume the guys who made the Sleeper mystery are true to old RPG Game Master ideals and have already put all clues needed in the game and do not change the story of the mystery halfway through. I expect those things to be in order or this mystery is unsolvable. I have started collecting pieces of the puzzle and it might not be so difficult to solve after all. And I bet ya; if what I stated about solving the mystery is true, CCPs Storyline Team will never come out and say "you solved it!" to somebody shooting of unsupported speculations. All pieces must fit before the mystery is solved. The Soduku is on. ---------------- Mr. Science & Trade Institute - EVE Online Lorebook
Leviathan9 Gallente Astrophysical Engineering War and Pestilence	Posted - 2010.07.14 13:14:00 - [174] Edited by: Leviathan9 on 14/07/2010 13:14:46 Originally by: Madner Kami Edited by: Madner Kami on 09/07/2010 10:06:11 Originally by: Gecko O'Bac Myrkala: Ahem... What's the Monolith? :D First and foremost, a reference to 2001: A Space Odyssey, a movie by Stanley Kubrick. Oddly enough it also makes a cameo in w-space: http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/3593/monolith.png Actually it can be found in one of the systems (I forget which) near EVE Gate. Edit: Seems i've already been beaten to it, Dead End system Planet 5, Moon 5. ---------------------------
Auwnie Morohe	Posted - 2010.07.14 13:32:00 - [175] Jowen I totally agree with you. And although CCP wont tell you that you have solved a piece of the puzzle CCP Dropbear almost literally said that the game will and it will give you a little more enigma to follow like it did with Asbalon. Secretly Im hoping there are some nice sleeper drone or Talocan BPOs at the end of this but probably not. On the drone thing. There is in Gallente cosmos an agent that is a drone and it lives in one of those silos. It used to be a Jove but last time i checked it was part of ORE. It is a level 1 missions but you need to take out a mother drone so bring something that can meaning serous DPS. Also it lives somewhere at a moon so you need to look for it.
Eventy One Magellan Exploration and Survey THAT Alliance	Posted - 2010.07.15 19:28:00 - [176] Originally by: Auwnie Morohe Jowen I totally agree with you. And although CCP wont tell you that you have solved a piece of the puzzle CCP Dropbear almost literally said that the game will and it will give you a little more enigma to follow like it did with Asbalon. Secretly Im hoping there are some nice sleeper drone or Talocan BPOs at the end of this but probably not. On the drone thing. There is in Gallente cosmos an agent that is a drone and it lives in one of those silos. It used to be a Jove but last time i checked it was part of ORE. It is a level 1 missions but you need to take out a mother drone so bring something that can meaning serous DPS. Also it lives somewhere at a moon so you need to look for it. She still IS Jove. She WORKS for ORE. But see, this is exactly it .. Jowen says that each player has their own theories, while ignoring the other bits as inconsequential. CCP Dropbear says players haven't figured it out. THIS IS EXACTLY WHY WE NEED DIALOGUE. If there is a puzzle hidden within in-game content, and players tend to ignore stuff as inconsequential, talking about it in the forums, between players, will convince some, that an item they thought was consequential was not. Here's an example. In game there is a Sansha's agent who IS Jovian. In the Jove channel, (like more than a year ago) I use to ponder that tid-bit, and was constantly told - it is not important. Likewise, there is an unreachable Jove agent who likewise has standings with Sansha's and no other faction. We could look up on these clues as meaningless, but given recent in-game news events - its nearly impossible to conclude anything other than CCP has been planning this business for a while now. There are still other clues - that are deemed inconsequential. Why is there a Jove working for the Angels for example? Or Serpentis? This purpose of this thread was originally to see if we couldn't find some way to get these threads all on the table to be seen by all, and get dialog going. If CCP Dropbears not pulling our legs - I would personally love to contribute to solving that puzzle.
Pottsey Enheduanni Foundation	Posted - 2010.07.15 20:00:00 - [177] Edited by: Pottsey on 15/07/2010 20:02:27 Gecko O'Bac said "I don't, but a single "structure" that uses the same model as a jovian structure, especially since it's been there for quite a while IIRC, quite before the new zones and the new interest in the background of eve, doesn't sound to me like a clue just coincidence and asset recycling (By ccp, not drones). Like I said though, if we get other, DIFFERENT things that point in this direction then I'm all for reviewing my position." Its more than just that one structure Auwnie Morohe reminded me of the Jove looking drones. Why this took me so long to post I have no idea, it just never crossed my mind till now. Not only do we have the drones building a Jove like structure. But we have a drone projecting a Jove imagine when you talk to it with a Jove bloodline description and the drone gives Jove standings if you do a mission for it. It seems to me to be a little more than just asset recycling. ______ How to Passive Shield Tank T2
Razoq Gallente Roving Guns Inc. RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2010.07.15 20:32:00 - [178] The Reapers!!
Eventy One Magellan Exploration and Survey THAT Alliance	Posted - 2010.07.15 20:53:00 - [179] Originally by: Pottsey Like I said though, if we get other, DIFFERENT things that point in this direction then I'm all for reviewing my position." Its more than just that one structure Auwnie Morohe reminded me of the Jove looking drones. Why this took me so long to post I have no idea, it just never crossed my mind till now. Not only do we have the drones building a Jove like structure. But we have a drone projecting a Jove imagine when you talk to it with a Jove bloodline description and the drone gives Jove standings if you do a mission for it. It seems to me to be a little more than just asset recycling. Pottsey .. I don't think you've told me about this one ...
Gecko O'Bac H A V O C Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2010.07.15 21:58:00 - [180] Edited by: Gecko O''Bac on 15/07/2010 21:58:10 Originally by: Eventy One Originally by: Pottsey Like I said though, if we get other, DIFFERENT things that point in this direction then I'm all for reviewing my position." Its more than just that one structure Auwnie Morohe reminded me of the Jove looking drones. Why this took me so long to post I have no idea, it just never crossed my mind till now. Not only do we have the drones building a Jove like structure. But we have a drone projecting a Jove imagine when you talk to it with a Jove bloodline description and the drone gives Jove standings if you do a mission for it. It seems to me to be a little more than just asset recycling. Pottsey .. I don't think you've told me about this one ... Yeah this is indeed interesting. And since it gives Jove standings I doubt it's simply a misplacement. It may be indeed something worth investigating (if at all possible). Certainly puts the drone/jove station under a new light.



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