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Xenuria
Gallente Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.07.18 15:47:00 -
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So some people in my alliance have been trying to tell me that a guardian vexor is an easy gank.
I even tried showing them on webcam how to use EFT and do it right.
The relevent states are as follows.
Shield resistence 56.3 65 73.8 78.1 Armor Resistence 73.6 71 60.4 52.5
effective HP is just under 15k, I said it would be 15k but I was guestimating. its actually 14788. It is Cap stable and this is all without rigs and only 1 medium slot taken.
10 augmented hammerheads in drone bay and faction small blasters.
The Consequences will NEVER be the same once you fit your G-Vexor like this. You will have double the DPS of a regular vexor because you have 10 drones. No other limited issue ship can say it gives double dps over its non-limited counterpart. "My name is legion, for we are many" |

Ohh Yeah
The Compass Reloaded HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.07.18 15:49:00 -
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Originally by: Xenuria The Consequences will NEVER be the same once you fit your G-Vexor like this.
0/10
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Kary Savage
Caldari Justin Bieber Fan Club and Industries HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.07.18 15:49:00 -
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What is this, i don't even.
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King Rothgar
Amarrian Retribution
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Posted - 2010.07.18 15:52:00 -
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My completely ordinary vexor has 25k+ ehp with t2 medium blasters. Never tried fitting a guardian vexor but you should be able to do a lot better than that bull****. Thus far you shall read, but no further; for this is my sig. |

Xenuria
Gallente Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.07.18 15:54:00 -
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Originally by: King Rothgar My completely ordinary vexor has 25k+ ehp with t2 medium blasters. Never tried fitting a guardian vexor but you should be able to do a lot better than that bull****.
well I was going for resistances so that is why my EHP is so low. But yeah just proof of theory. "My name is legion, for we are many" |

James Tritanius
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Posted - 2010.07.18 16:16:00 -
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Originally by: King Rothgar My completely ordinary vexor has 25k+ ehp with t2 medium blasters. Never tried fitting a guardian vexor but you should be able to do a lot better than that bull****.
Get a clue. Did you not see "HYDRA RELOADED" under his name?
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Xenuria
Gallente Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.07.18 16:20:00 -
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Originally by: James Tritanius
Originally by: King Rothgar My completely ordinary vexor has 25k+ ehp with t2 medium blasters. Never tried fitting a guardian vexor but you should be able to do a lot better than that bull****.
Get a clue. Did you not see "HYDRA RELOADED" under his name?
Say what you want about me or my alliance but the fitting tool does not lie. I have made a gank resistent and mission soloing G-vexor "My name is legion, for we are many" |

DUBVSIXTEEN
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Posted - 2010.07.18 17:22:00 -
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wtf
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Ninetails o'Cat
League of Super Evil
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Posted - 2010.07.18 19:10:00 -
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Originally by: Xenuria The Consequences will NEVER be the same once you fit your G-Vexor like this. You will have double the DPS of a regular vexor because you have 10 drones. No other limited issue ship can say it gives double dps over its non-limited counterpart.
I'm not going to show you on webcam, but this is what the maths makes of this claim.
5 drones * 1.5 damage bonus = 7.5 'effective' drones
10* 1 = 10 drones
last time I checked, 10 is not double 7.5.
Besides, if the only DPS on your vexor is drones, urdoingitwrong.
(For the record, that's the same damage bonus over the normal version as a Raven state issue vs a normal raven (8 launchers vs 6 launchers))
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Vins Chicago
Gallente Regent Laboratories
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Posted - 2010.07.18 19:46:00 -
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A few possibilities: 1) OP is a troll. 2) OP doesn't know what "gank" means. 3) OP is just a dim bulb (no offense, though).
Regardless, the only gank-proof ship is the one that never undocks.
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Footoo Rama
Gallente Cast-a-Ways.
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Posted - 2010.07.18 20:03:00 -
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Congrats you fail fitted a ship, that you will never even see in the game. These guys DO NOT undock only about 24 left in game i think.
And a guardian vexxor is an easy gank hence why they never undock, almost the holy grail of cruiser Killmails at this point. ------- "Because the Dominix is the Chuck Norris of Eve!" |

Annie Anomie
Shadows Of The Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.18 20:08:00 -
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Hook line and sinker.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.07.18 20:12:00 -
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Humour.  ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |

Tortugan
Internal Anarchy WE FORM VOLTRON
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Posted - 2010.07.18 21:01:00 -
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M8 you're doing it wrong:
Originally by: EFT [Guardian-Vexor, Elite Jita PVP] Cormack's Modified Magnetic Field Stabilizer Cormack's Modified Magnetic Field Stabilizer Cormack's Modified Magnetic Field Stabilizer Warp Core Stabilizer II Warp Core Stabilizer II
Small Shield Booster II Small Shield Booster II Large Hull Repairer II Micro Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 25
Ion Siege Blaster Cannon I, Guristas Antimatter Charge XL Ion Siege Blaster Cannon I, Guristas Antimatter Charge XL Ion Siege Blaster Cannon I, Guristas Antimatter Charge XL Ion Siege Blaster Cannon I, Guristas Antimatter Charge XL Ion Siege Blaster Cannon I, Guristas Antimatter Charge XL
Medium Polycarbon Engine Housing II Medium Hydraulic Bay Thrusters I Medium Hydraulic Bay Thrusters I
Warrior I x10
1571 DPS. Tanks 48 DPS running the hull rep.
:D
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King Gore
Sword and Pistol
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Posted - 2010.07.18 21:38:00 -
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Originally by: Tortugan M8 you're doing it wrong:
Originally by: EFT [Guardian-Vexor, Elite Jita PVP] Cormack's Modified Magnetic Field Stabilizer Cormack's Modified Magnetic Field Stabilizer Cormack's Modified Magnetic Field Stabilizer Warp Core Stabilizer II Warp Core Stabilizer II
Small Shield Booster II Small Shield Booster II Large Hull Repairer II Micro Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 25
Ion Siege Blaster Cannon I, Guristas Antimatter Charge XL Ion Siege Blaster Cannon I, Guristas Antimatter Charge XL Ion Siege Blaster Cannon I, Guristas Antimatter Charge XL Ion Siege Blaster Cannon I, Guristas Antimatter Charge XL Ion Siege Blaster Cannon I, Guristas Antimatter Charge XL
Medium Polycarbon Engine Housing II Medium Hydraulic Bay Thrusters I Medium Hydraulic Bay Thrusters I
Warrior I x10
1571 DPS. Tanks 48 DPS running the hull rep.
**** yeah? -
Originally by: Verone Happy Ishtar is extremely happy
Originally by: Kahn Souphanousinphone I thought I was going to live next to a powerful man, now I just live next to power.
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Tom Peeping
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Posted - 2010.07.19 00:50:00 -
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Originally by: Xenuria
Say what you want about me or my alliance but the fitting tool does not lie. I have made a gank resistent and mission soloing G-vexor
HA HA HA HA... this is win on several levels. Don't usually give trolls thumbs up, but xenuria wins today. 10 of 10 imo
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Mutant Caldari
Caldari Percussive Diplomacy
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Posted - 2010.07.19 00:54:00 -
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Originally by: Ohh Yeah
Originally by: Xenuria The Consequences will NEVER be the same once you fit your G-Vexor like this.
0/10
   Yeah I am a pirate. What are you gonna do about it? http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=Mutant+Caldari http://roadkill.igs-corp.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=32678 |

WhiteWarp
Amarr 24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2010.07.19 02:49:00 -
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Originally by: Xenuria So some people in my alliance have been trying to tell me that a guardian vexor is an easy gank.
I even tried showing them on webcam how to use EFT and do it right.
The relevent states are as follows.
Shield resistence 56.3 65 73.8 78.1 Armor Resistence 73.6 71 60.4 52.5
effective HP is just under 15k, I said it would be 15k but I was guestimating. its actually 14788. It is Cap stable and this is all without rigs and only 1 medium slot taken.
10 augmented hammerheads in drone bay and faction small blasters.
The Consequences will NEVER be the same once you fit your G-Vexor like this. You will have double the DPS of a regular vexor because you have 10 drones. No other limited issue ship can say it gives double dps over its non-limited counterpart.
How long does it take you to solo level 5s in this? And I really question why you didn't fit lasers. Everyone knows lasers are the best weapons ever.
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Sempress Kaye
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Posted - 2010.07.19 15:28:00 -
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Originally by: Tortugan M8 you're doing it wrong:
Originally by: EFT [Guardian-Vexor, Elite Jita PVP] Cormack's Modified Magnetic Field Stabilizer Cormack's Modified Magnetic Field Stabilizer Cormack's Modified Magnetic Field Stabilizer Warp Core Stabilizer II Warp Core Stabilizer II
Small Shield Booster II Small Shield Booster II Large Hull Repairer II Micro Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 25
Ion Siege Blaster Cannon I, Guristas Antimatter Charge XL Ion Siege Blaster Cannon I, Guristas Antimatter Charge XL Ion Siege Blaster Cannon I, Guristas Antimatter Charge XL Ion Siege Blaster Cannon I, Guristas Antimatter Charge XL Ion Siege Blaster Cannon I, Guristas Antimatter Charge XL
Medium Polycarbon Engine Housing II Medium Hydraulic Bay Thrusters I Medium Hydraulic Bay Thrusters I
Warrior I x10
1571 DPS. Tanks 48 DPS running the hull rep.
This post paired with the dudes face in his signature nearly made me roll out of my office chair. My boss even asked me to stop smiling so hidiously. Ahhh, such a nice way to end a day's work lol.
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Veneth
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Posted - 2010.07.19 16:44:00 -
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Originally by: Xenuria So some people in my alliance have been trying to tell me that a guardian vexor is an easy gank.
I even tried showing them on webcam how to use EFT and do it right.
The relevent states are as follows.
Shield resistence 56.3 65 73.8 78.1 Armor Resistence 73.6 71 60.4 52.5
effective HP is just under 15k, I said it would be 15k but I was guestimating. its actually 14788. It is Cap stable and this is all without rigs and only 1 medium slot taken.
10 augmented hammerheads in drone bay and faction small blasters.
The Consequences will NEVER be the same once you fit your G-Vexor like this. You will have double the DPS of a regular vexor because you have 10 drones. No other limited issue ship can say it gives double dps over its non-limited counterpart.
You dun goof'd! The consequences will never be the same again!
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Guillame Herschel
Gallente NME1
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Posted - 2010.07.19 18:40:00 -
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Originally by: Xenuria No other limited issue ship can say it gives double dps over its non-limited counterpart.
Except Adrestia
The OP is a stealth whine about people who whine that the Adrestia is OP.
-- Sent from my douchePhone using Look@MEEEEE!
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Headerman
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Posted - 2010.07.20 09:07:00 -
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Here's my take on it, might need a +3% PG implant or two...
[Guardian-Vexor, New Setup 1] Cormack's Modified Armor EM Hardener Cormack's Modified Armor Thermic Hardener Cormack's Modified Armor Kinetic Hardener Cormack's Modified Armor Explosive Hardener Cormack's Modified Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Tracking Computer II Tracking Computer II Tracking Computer II Tracking Computer II
Ion Siege Blaster Cannon I, Guristas Antimatter Charge XL Ion Siege Blaster Cannon I, Guristas Antimatter Charge XL Ion Siege Blaster Cannon I, Guristas Antimatter Charge XL Ion Siege Blaster Cannon I, Guristas Antimatter Charge XL Ion Siege Blaster Cannon I, Guristas Antimatter Charge XL
Medium Trimark Armor Pump II Medium Trimark Armor Pump II Medium Trimark Armor Pump II
Acolyte I x10 Acolyte I x15
31k EHP, DPV is 6011
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Gladys Pank
Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2010.07.20 10:07:00 -
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Edited by: Gladys Pank on 20/07/2010 10:10:02 Maybe Xemuria should fit it like this Pr0 Vexor 
Edit or even better.
[Vexor, Xenuria's Vexor] Overdrive Injector System II 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Damage Control II Medium Armor Repairer I
10MN Afterburner I Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II
Modal Light Neutron Particle Accelerator I, Antimatter Charge S Modal Light Neutron Particle Accelerator I, Antimatter Charge S Salvager I Modal Light Neutron Particle Accelerator I, Antimatter Charge S Modal Light Neutron Particle Accelerator I, Antimatter Charge S
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Semiconductor Memory Cell I
Hammerhead I x2
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Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2010.07.20 12:46:00 -
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Maybe the OP could give us all a good Utu fit as well. 
Linkage.
Originally by: Torothanax Low population in w systems makes afk cloaking unattractive.
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Ildryn
The Inf1dels En Garde
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Posted - 2010.07.20 15:00:00 -
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Easy gank. I back traced it. Im calling the cyber police. Consequences will never be the same.
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Xenuria
Gallente Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.07.20 19:36:00 -
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Ok let me set the record straight.
The more damage you resist the harder it is for you to be ganked in high sec.
The fit I made has the following considering the ship being a cruiser.
Above average EHP Extreamly High Resistance to ALL damage types. Low Sig radius Enough armor repping to withstand 13.6 mins of consistent attack from a typical gank ship. So would this fit work in 0.5 if a megathron tried to gank it? No and I understand that.
However consider that if this ship was always in high sec it would easily survive a gank from up to 4 other cruisers or even 2 megathrons. Loong enough for concord to take care of matters.
Its not perfect.. Its not really...Gank proof. But its as gank proof as you can possibly get a G-vexor while still having insane dps on lvl 2s and 3s. instead of just assuming that OP is a huge troll (even if she is) why not try and rationalize or hypothesize with it.
Come up with numbers for the average dps of more then 50% of gank ships and compare that to what my fit can realistically handle in a given security zone. If you want to prove me wrong your going to have to refute my argument with numbers and fits of your own. "My name is legion, for we are many" |

Zilberfrid
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Posted - 2010.07.20 19:44:00 -
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You do realize that EHP already take in account the resists right?
Similar with DPS tank. ------------------------------------- I like to fly around and shoot stuff. |

Xenuria
Gallente Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.07.20 20:03:00 -
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Originally by: Zilberfrid You do realize that EHP already take in account the resists right?
Similar with DPS tank.
it does but not very accuratly. You would get a more accurate number if you ran a sim with an enemy ship that only did a specific damage type. the games formula for resist and EHP takes ALL the resists into account at the same time and dose some wacky jaze with the final number.
So in reality a ship with 50k EHP and no resist is not as good as a ship with 20K EHP and loads of resists. Simply because more damage per second is going to be mitigated then with the 50K. And Seconds are what are relevant with potential ganks.
Its a matter of how much time before concord solves the threat. So how much DPS the tiny vexor can handle is more important then how much EHP it has.
Dose that make sense? "My name is legion, for we are many" |

Creepy Goat
Collateral. HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.07.21 00:03:00 -
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I have no idea what is going on in your little EFT world, but I did a quick Vexor buffer tank using just the lows and got double your EHP with higher resists. It would at least be much harder to gank in hi-sec, although still do-able with a few Torp Ravens or Arty ships.
For a mission fit you'll have a rep, which means lower EHP, relying on your resists to reduce incoming damage thus increasing the effectiveness of your repper. In a high-sec gank, you will not have a chance to rep, a couple of high-alpha ships will easily pop you on the first volley.
This is the same for any active-tanked cruiser. You only have to look at the smartbombed mission Tengus on battleclinic to see this, and they have a much higher EHP than a Guardian Vexor.
Xenuria you are terrible at this game, anyone just has to read the crap you spout in Alliance chat to see this. Learn to walk before you can run, stop being so obnoxious and ask for help rather than failing all the time. Although saying that, any advice people do give you, you start mouthing off at them and talking absolute rubbish.
Now shoo.
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vile56
swade denim secret polease
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Posted - 2010.07.21 03:57:00 -
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you done goofed
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