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Ticondrius Orbital Infinity Saints Amongst Sinners	Posted - 2010.07.21 00:36:00 - [1] Edited by: Ticondrius on 21/07/2010 00:37:06 After checking these images out...you will want Incarna yesterday. 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 - 6 - 7 - 8 - 9 - 10 - 11 - 12 - 13 - 14 - 15 16 - 17 - 18 - 19 - 20 - 21 - 22 - 23 - 24 - 25 - 26 - 27 28 - 29 - 30 - 31 Enjoy! -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- NRDS: Not Really Defending Space MMORPG: Many Men Online Role Playing Girls
kano donn	Posted - 2010.07.21 00:39:00 - [2] epicly old pictures.
Celestine Santora	Posted - 2010.07.21 00:39:00 - [3] I've wanted Incarna since day 1, **** the haters IBhaters
Julienne Poirier	Posted - 2010.07.21 00:41:00 - [4] then you'll want a single link Linkage
SurrenderMonkey	Posted - 2010.07.21 00:43:00 - [5] Those are pretty ancient. Everyone has seen them. I won't be able to care about Incarna unless it's something more than the glorified chat room with avatars that seems likely at present. If it has some genuinely engaging gameplay elements, cool. Failing that, I could probably reach indifference if they include the ability to shove someone out an airlock. And space-strippers. If it's just fluff... meh. --------------- Faction-Militia:Player-Alliance::Newbie-corp:Player-corp
RatKnight1 Gallente Mahdi Followers	Posted - 2010.07.21 00:43:00 - [6] Yeah.... 2 things 1) old news, old photos. 2) Still don't care about incarna. [url=http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=RatKnight1][/u
Ticondrius Orbital Infinity Saints Amongst Sinners	Posted - 2010.07.21 00:43:00 - [7] Fanfest 2008 isn't epically old for Incarna. Want old? You need to go back to 2005... Linkage -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- NRDS: Not Really Defending Space MMORPG: Many Men Online Role Playing Girls
Stitcher Caldari Lai Dai Infinity Systems	Posted - 2010.07.21 01:05:00 - [8] Originally by: Ticondrius Fanfest 2008 isn't epically old for Incarna. Want old? You need to go back to 2005... Linkage uh... that movie is NOT from 2005. - - Verin "Stitcher" Hakatain.
Priss Eluveitie	Posted - 2010.07.21 01:07:00 - [9] I am looking forward to Incarna.
Intense Thinker Minmatar	Posted - 2010.07.21 01:18:00 - [10] If I can't make my characters morbidly obese I'm gonna be ****ed
Black Dranzer	Posted - 2010.07.21 01:42:00 - [11] Look, it's not that nobody's looking forward to incarna, it's just that most players seem to agree that Eve has bigger concerns right now. -------------------------------------------------- Learning skills are an ultimatum, not a choice.
Kireiina	Posted - 2010.07.21 01:54:00 - [12] Incarna will matter to the extent it adds new options or depth to gameplay, which I believe remains an unknown. And will be sort of challenging considering the entirety of the rest of the game revolves around being a starship.
Jennifer Fenring Amarr	Posted - 2010.07.21 06:27:00 - [13] Originally by: Kireiina Incarna will matter to the extent it adds new options or depth to gameplay, which I believe remains an unknown. And will be sort of challenging considering the entirety of the rest of the game revolves around being a starship. I think so too. Knowing CCP I'm sure it's not just "eye candy", we'll get mini-games (which EVE is full with, see PI) and corporate offices. As some people said, it's nice for traders to be actually be in a station while trading and not just in a hangar looking at your ship all day. I think people underestimate the effect Incarna can have on how other players are perceived. To support chat with some visuals, sound and interaction on a person-to-person base may have a bigger impact than you'd expect.
Furb Killer Gallente	Posted - 2010.07.21 06:47:00 - [14] Originally by: Ticondrius Edited by: Ticondrius on 21/07/2010 00:37:06 After checking these images out...you will want Incarna yesterday. 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 - 6 - 7 - 8 - 9 - 10 - 11 - 12 - 13 - 14 - 15 16 - 17 - 18 - 19 - 20 - 21 - 22 - 23 - 24 - 25 - 26 - 27 28 - 29 - 30 - 31 Enjoy! You realise out of the last expansions at least 50% of the features were scrapped before launch? And they all looked good until it became clear what would actually make it into the expansion? But that wouldnt be a problem if CCP would use the 'framework' every expansion was and iterate on it like they said they would. So we got a walking in stations, with at least half the stuff, probably more, from what you see on those screenshots scrapped. Then CCP runs after the next shiney they are going to ****ty implement and never fixes incarna.
TheBlueMonkey Gallente Priory Of The Lemon Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2010.07.21 07:45:00 - [15] So I can make my avatar look like a fat red head with shiny skin? THANK GOD FOR THAT \o/ oh I am so syked about this now, I can't wait to have to walk around a station looking at all the other pointless meat sacks humping into each other and "/dancing" everywhere. /sarcasm -- Nothing is worthless, you may have gotten it for free but it still has an inherent value
Ti'anla Minmatar	Posted - 2010.07.21 07:50:00 - [16] Edited by: Ti''anla on 21/07/2010 07:52:02 Cared since before there was even concept art, still do care now in-spite of the hating idiots. And to the prat above .. you know the developers have stated, over and over, that /dance and all equivalents won't actually be in Incarna, ever? 'Best you might get is an object'll let you dance in a single location, like a dancefloor in a bar. But yeah that said those Are old. 'Better'd be to show the pod-exit trailer from last fanfest, given that was made with Incarna's graphics engine.
Sandy fr Caldari Chevaliers de la Croix Du Sud Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2010.07.21 08:05:00 - [17] i want be a elf !
Slavemaster	Posted - 2010.07.21 08:07:00 - [18]
TheBlueMonkey Gallente Priory Of The Lemon Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2010.07.21 08:08:00 - [19] Edited by: TheBlueMonkey on 21/07/2010 08:08:00 Originally by: Ti'anla /missguided trust CCP say alot of things -- Nothing is worthless, you may have gotten it for free but it still has an inherent value
Ti'anla Minmatar	Posted - 2010.07.21 08:15:00 - [20] Edited by: Ti''anla on 21/07/2010 08:15:28 Originally by: TheBlueMonkey Originally by: Ti'anla Pathetic edit to misrepresent original poster. Implication original poster's a fool for thinking a denied feature won't be put in, because the developers are so good at putting in more than they say they will and I'm terrified of anyone suggesting any future development won't somehow ruin my life. Fixed that for you.
Slavemaster	Posted - 2010.07.21 08:23:00 - [21] Originally by: TheBlueMonkey So I can make my avatar look like a fat red head with shiny skin? THANK GOD FOR THAT \o/ oh I am so syked about this now, I can't wait to have to walk around a station looking at all the other pointless meat sacks humping into each other and "/dancing" everywhere. /sarcasm
Tres Farmer Gallente Federation Intelligence Service	Posted - 2010.07.21 08:27:00 - [22] Oh, I'll be so hard laughing once those 18 months are over and you guys got served Incarna in the way CCP serves them.
Slavemaster	Posted - 2010.07.21 08:31:00 - [23] Originally by: Black Dranzer Look, it's not that nobody's looking forward to incarna, it's just that most players seem to agree that Eve has bigger concerns right now.
TheBlueMonkey Gallente Priory Of The Lemon Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2010.07.21 08:36:00 - [24] Originally by: Slavemaster Originally by: TheBlueMonkey So I can make my avatar look like a fat red head with shiny skin? THANK GOD FOR THAT \o/ oh I am so syked about this now, I can't wait to have to walk around a station looking at all the other pointless meat sacks humping into each other and "/dancing" everywhere. /sarcasm posting smack with an alt... classy -- Nothing is worthless, you may have gotten it for free but it still has an inherent value
Hari Markkus Freelancing Corp Confederation of Independent Corporations	Posted - 2010.07.21 08:39:00 - [25] Nope, I still don't care about Incarna. Shiny lady's bottoms are nice, but kinda pale into insignificance compared to getting a new ship type, for example.
Slavemaster	Posted - 2010.07.21 08:44:00 - [26] Originally by: TheBlueMonkey Originally by: Slavemaster Originally by: TheBlueMonkey So I can make my avatar look like a fat red head with shiny skin? THANK GOD FOR THAT \o/ oh I am so syked about this now, I can't wait to have to walk around a station looking at all the other pointless meat sacks humping into each other and "/dancing" everywhere. /sarcasm Ehh, This is my main, just look at my posts, threads... posting smack with an alt... classy hehe, Chill down Trooper. :D
TheBlueMonkey Gallente Priory Of The Lemon Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2010.07.21 08:52:00 - [27] Originally by: Slavemaster Images older than promises of incarna If this is your main, you suck worse than me and I'm **** at eve -- Nothing is worthless, you may have gotten it for free but it still has an inherent value
Slavemaster	Posted - 2010.07.21 09:00:00 - [28] Originally by: TheBlueMonkey Originally by: Slavemaster Images older than promises of incarna If this is your main, you suck worse than me and I'm **** at eve
Sandy fr Caldari Chevaliers de la Croix Du Sud Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2010.07.21 09:14:00 - [29]
Zaerlorth Maelkor The Maverick Navy IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.07.21 09:26:00 - [30] Originally by: TheBlueMonkey So I can make my avatar look like a fat red head with shiny skin? THANK GOD FOR THAT \o/ Fat with skiny skin? WTH does that mean? However, you might want to consider a few things, first of all; I now have one of those annoying sigs. second; you should probably move on to some more interesting things than reading this sig.
Some Advisor	Posted - 2010.07.21 09:28:00 - [31] Edited by: Some Advisor on 21/07/2010 09:28:13 nuff said :P --- Lend me your nonconsumable Stuff if you¦re leaving Eve for the time being. You get it back when you come back, promise :)
Slavemaster	Posted - 2010.07.21 09:40:00 - [32] Originally by: Zaerlorth Maelkor Originally by: TheBlueMonkey So I can make my avatar look like a fat red head with shiny skin? THANK GOD FOR THAT \o/ Fat with skiny skin? WTH does that mean?
TheBlueMonkey Gallente Priory Of The Lemon Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2010.07.21 09:44:00 - [33] Originally by: Zaerlorth Maelkor Originally by: TheBlueMonkey So I can make my avatar look like a fat red head with shiny skin? THANK GOD FOR THAT \o/ Fat with skiny skin? WTH does that mean? The words were fat and shiny ;) -- Nothing is worthless, you may have gotten it for free but it still has an inherent value
Guilliman R Gallente PRO Space Hunters HUNTER'S BROTHERHOOD	Posted - 2010.07.21 09:50:00 - [34] Can I do a sex change when incarna hits? I don't want to look at male ass all day http://images.eurogamer.net/assets/articles//a/3/1/2/5/0/5/ss_preview_WiS_screen_18.jpg.jpg
Slavemaster	Posted - 2010.07.21 09:55:00 - [35] Originally by: Guilliman R Can I do a sex change when incarna hits? I don't want to look at male ass all day http://images.eurogamer.net/assets/articles//a/3/1/2/5/0/5/ss_preview_WiS_screen_18.jpg.jpg Get with the Program.... This is more easy Dude
Pottsey Enheduanni Foundation	Posted - 2010.07.21 09:56:00 - [36] Ticondrius said ôAfter checking these images out...you will want Incarna yesterday. ö Having been playing Incarna like features in Space MMOÆs for around 10 years I donÆt really see what all the fuss is about Incarna. More so as Incarna is just a cut down version of what other space MMOÆs do. ItÆs not fresh, unique or a new feature but rather a average feature thatÆs uninteresting due to being done so much and like I said before a cut down version at that.ItÆs going be nice to have but nothing special. ______ How to Passive Shield Tank T2
MC187	Posted - 2010.07.21 10:22:00 - [37] unless there's a good purpose for walking around staions, it's just another gimmick that will probably be buggy and include a few patches, database errors, hard drive bloat and shiny new station interior lag. after playing earth and beyond way back when, i realized that walking around with an avatar isn't all it's cracked up to be. i'd still rather have fixes and iteration over new features.
Indimiel	Posted - 2010.07.21 10:23:00 - [38] Those pictures make me want to play Word of Darkness Online pretty badly... I wonder if the legion of programmers Incarna is supposed to have assigned is basically the WoD team who have been told to also design jumpsuits...
Dan O'Connor Cerberus Network Dignitas.	Posted - 2010.07.21 10:24:00 - [39] Originally by: RatKnight1 Yeah.... 2 things 1) old news, old photos. The pics are sure new to me. DB \| Map
Digital Solaris Caldari	Posted - 2010.07.21 10:30:00 - [40] ZzZzZz
Kireiina	Posted - 2010.07.21 10:30:00 - [41] Originally by: Indimiel I wonder if the legion of programmers Incarna is supposed to have assigned is basically the WoD team who have been told to also design jumpsuits... I suspect the character models are for Incarna / Dust / WoD, that "cloth" demo looked very much like WoD and a lot of the hi-tech art assets are going to be used in Dust / Incarna. Though which game demands so many shots of latex bodysuits is probably only fully known by CCP.
TheBlueMonkey Gallente Priory Of The Lemon Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2010.07.21 10:32:00 - [42] Originally by: MC187 unless there's a good purpose for walking around staions, it's just another gimmick that will probably be buggy and include a few patches, database errors, hard drive bloat and shiny new station interior lag. after playing earth and beyond way back when, i realized that walking around with an avatar isn't all it's cracked up to be. i'd still rather have fixes and iteration over new features. And that is my issue with incarna. This is a spaceship mmo, I fail to see any benefits of walking around in station. -- Nothing is worthless, you may have gotten it for free but it still has an inherent value
egegergergsdgedgege	Posted - 2010.07.21 11:01:00 - [43] Originally by: Ticondrius Edited by: Ticondrius on 21/07/2010 00:37:06 After checking these images out...you will want Incarna yesterday. 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 - 6 - 7 - 8 - 9 - 10 - 11 - 12 - 13 - 14 - 15 16 - 17 - 18 - 19 - 20 - 21 - 22 - 23 - 24 - 25 - 26 - 27 28 - 29 - 30 - 31 Enjoy! No. Because its a 3D chatroom. A beautiful one maybe but still a chatroom. I dont need a chatroom. I dont want a chatroom. I want properly working spaceships.
Pottsey Enheduanni Foundation	Posted - 2010.07.21 11:15:00 - [44] Edited by: Pottsey on 21/07/2010 11:15:48 TheBlueMonkey said ôThis is a spaceship mmo, I fail to see any benefits of walking around in station.ö There can be benefits but only if CCP do a decent job like other space MMOÆs. Like being able to walk around your ship, invite people to your ship for meetings, have medals on show. Or better yet do what another MMO lets you do, fight around the ships corridors and rooms. Fight your way to the bridge or to the engine rooms or fight to free a person in the brig. Imagine a level 4 mission where you have to save the damsel. After disabling the last enemy ship in space combat you board the ship and have to walk around and fight your way to the damsel to recuse her. But Incarna seems to skipping all the better parts of walking around that other space MMOÆs let you do. So no fun stuff like that. Or for PvP you have some friends in a shuttle that launch from our ship and board the enemy ship to disable the engines or shields. There could be lots of uses for walking if only CCP would but the effect in and do what the other space MMOÆs have done. ______ How to Passive Shield Tank T2
putopugno Gallente Unit-9	Posted - 2010.07.21 11:17:00 - [45] Originally by: TheBlueMonkey Originally by: MC187 unless there's a good purpose for walking around staions, it's just another gimmick that will probably be buggy and include a few patches, database errors, hard drive bloat and shiny new station interior lag. after playing earth and beyond way back when, i realized that walking around with an avatar isn't all it's cracked up to be. i'd still rather have fixes and iteration over new features. And that is my issue with incarna. This is a spaceship mmo, I fail to see any benefits of walking around in station. I think you will find that the word from the horses mouth that it's a SciFi MMO.
Chesty McJubblies	Posted - 2010.07.21 11:33:00 - [46]
Rocktown	Posted - 2010.07.21 11:36:00 - [47] the tl;dr version of this thread = fanboi nerds vs rageful cynical nerds.
Miriam Letisse	Posted - 2010.07.21 11:41:00 - [48] Is the guy on the far right the antagonist from The Fifth Element?
Tish Magev NailorTech Industries	Posted - 2010.07.21 12:58:00 - [49] Quote: After checking these images out...you will want Incarna yesterday. Welcome to last year, and I can't express how MUCH I don't want Incarna.
Drenan State War Academy	Posted - 2010.07.21 13:02:00 - [50] The only feature that Incarna requires in order to be a massive success...is a view screen that lets you see ships outside the station...
ThisIsNotMyAlt	Posted - 2010.07.21 13:07:00 - [51] the skin texture looks like plastic
TheBlueMonkey Gallente Priory Of The Lemon Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2010.07.21 13:54:00 - [52] Edited by: TheBlueMonkey on 21/07/2010 13:55:42 Originally by: Pottsey Edited by: Pottsey on 21/07/2010 11:15:48 TheBlueMonkey said ôThis is a spaceship mmo, I fail to see any benefits of walking around in station.ö There can be benefits but only if CCP do a decent job like other space MMOÆs. Like being able to walk around your ship So I can be walking down a corridor while getting popped at a gate camp as I was on autopilot? Quote: invite people to your ship for meetings so I can get me and a friend popped at a gate camp as I autopilot my self some where? Quote: have medals on show so I can look at medals while getting popped at gate camps? Quote: Or better yet do what another MMO lets you do, fight around the ships corridors and rooms. Fight your way to the bridge or to the engine rooms or fight to free a person in the brig. I heard roumour that that's how starwars online started then they nerfed it to all hell because people whined it was too hard or some such rubbish and went for the quick buck rather than the long game. Quote: Imagine a level 4 mission where you have to save the damsel. After disabling the last enemy ship in space combat you board the ship and have to walk around and fight your way to the damsel to recuse her. Sounds rather dull tbh Quote: Or for PvP you have some friends in a shuttle that launch from our ship and board the enemy ship to disable the engines or shields. So taking down a multi-billion isk titan with a shuttle and a handful of douches sounds like good game balancing? Or watch as people whine that they keep dieing to being smart bombed as they approach the ship. Quote: There could be lots of uses for walking if only CCP would but the effect in and do what the other space MMOÆs have done. I am yet to hear of any that get any kind of interest out of me. I suppose if they made it so that while in station you could play a tower defence game... that might make me log in more ¼¼ Oh and there's also the fact that pod pilots are supposed to be imersed in goo in a pod while piloting the ship so I guess that's just going out the window? I still like the fact that I am my ship that I'm flying not "ooo look unconvincing humans" edit: yes... I'm jaded... well spotted :) -- Nothing is worthless, you may have gotten it for free but it still has an inherent value
Nicholas Barker Black Nova Corp IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.07.21 14:01:00 - [53] Does anybody have a link to a web/flash version of that board game? ------ 0800-LAG-A-NODE
omgevenmoarfreemoniez	Posted - 2010.07.21 14:05:00 - [54] Yay so i can make an avatar whose a hot girl then sell "RL pix" for $$$$$$$$$$ woot
Jennifer Fenring Amarr	Posted - 2010.07.21 14:12:00 - [55] Edited by: Jennifer Fenring on 21/07/2010 14:12:20 Originally by: Miriam Letisse Is the guy on the far right the antagonist from The Fifth Element? Jean-Baptiste Emmanuel Zorg Must have been Gallente One of my fav movies ever!
Nothing Found	Posted - 2010.07.21 14:38:00 - [56] Originally by: TheBlueMonkey Edited by: TheBlueMonkey on 21/07/2010 13:55:42 Originally by: Pottsey Edited by: Pottsey on 21/07/2010 11:15:48 TheBlueMonkey said ôThis is a spaceship mmo, I fail to see any benefits of walking around in station.ö There can be benefits but only if CCP do a decent job like other space MMOÆs. Like being able to walk around your ship So I can be walking down a corridor while getting popped at a gate camp as I was on autopilot? Quote: invite people to your ship for meetings so I can get me and a friend popped at a gate camp as I autopilot my self some where? Quote: have medals on show so I can look at medals while getting popped at gate camps? Quote: Or better yet do what another MMO lets you do, fight around the ships corridors and rooms. Fight your way to the bridge or to the engine rooms or fight to free a person in the brig. I heard roumour that that's how starwars online started then they nerfed it to all hell because people whined it was too hard or some such rubbish and went for the quick buck rather than the long game. Quote: Imagine a level 4 mission where you have to save the damsel. After disabling the last enemy ship in space combat you board the ship and have to walk around and fight your way to the damsel to recuse her. Sounds rather dull tbh Quote: Or for PvP you have some friends in a shuttle that launch from our ship and board the enemy ship to disable the engines or shields. So taking down a multi-billion isk titan with a shuttle and a handful of douches sounds like good game balancing? Or watch as people whine that they keep dieing to being smart bombed as they approach the ship. Quote: There could be lots of uses for walking if only CCP would but the effect in and do what the other space MMOÆs have done. I am yet to hear of any that get any kind of interest out of me. I suppose if they made it so that while in station you could play a tower defence game... that might make me log in more ¼¼ Oh and there's also the fact that pod pilots are supposed to be imersed in goo in a pod while piloting the ship so I guess that's just going out the window? I still like the fact that I am my ship that I'm flying not "ooo look unconvincing humans" edit: yes... I'm jaded... well spotted :) It is probably common in Atlas that pod pilots associate to gate camps and autopilot if the topic is pixel boobs. Even if you were right (you are not) and there gate camps everywhere all the time and all the ships were automatically routed to a mysterious distant destination with the autopilot, most people would simply just dock or cloak to avoid all those deadly scenarios you mentioned. Also I can accept if the only joy in your life is to take down a titan and stuff like that, but I think that your magnificent achievements should not qualify you over me. Personally, I would like to have pixel boobs and stare them all day long and be happy with them. If meanwhile you blow up the universe to make yourself think you are a cool 1337pr0, that is fine by me. But see me: I am not opening *****ing threads about telling how wrong your opinion is. Probably you could have a life too.
Sky Marshal IMpAct Corp Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2010.07.21 14:48:00 - [57] If a game was great only because of his graphics... So, still don't care of Incarna. _______ With the NGE, I'm sorry about the mistake we made. We screwed up and didn't listen to the fans when we should have. - John Smedley, CEO of Sony Online Entertainment
Corozan Aspinall Party Time Inc.	Posted - 2010.07.21 15:23:00 - [58] Originally by: Zaerlorth Maelkor Originally by: TheBlueMonkey So I can make my avatar look like a fat red head with shiny skin? THANK GOD FOR THAT \o/ Fat with skiny skin? WTH does that mean? rofl
TheBlueMonkey Gallente Priory Of The Lemon Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2010.07.21 15:29:00 - [59] Originally by: Nothing Found words [/quote HA! I love how these things always come round to "argh... you're in atlas... argghhh" well done.. you win -- Nothing is worthless, you may have gotten it for free but it still has an inherent value
Warezmy Carr Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2010.07.21 15:45:00 - [60] I still don't see what all the benefits will be with Incarna. Maybe it's because I've never played any other MMO. I only joined EVE because it was a spaceship game focused on spaceship combat. Yes, there was market PvP, but the main focus was always that you were a spaceship pilot hired by others to do violence against other spaceships. Now CCP seems to be turning it into every other MMO instead of remaining the cool unique game it always has been. Adding all these extraneous features doesn't improve the base game, it simply adds new unnecessary crap to the existing base. I don't want the "WOW in space stations" Incarna. I want EVE, only better. My spaceship game doesn't need beautiful 3-D avatars, it needs more beautiful 3-D spaceships. -- My typical ship fit: Highs: teeth Mediums: claws Lows: nads I am a freebooter.
ThisIsNotMyAlt	Posted - 2010.07.21 15:53:00 - [61] it is a misconception that eve has allways been thought of as a spaceship combat game by ccp. it was and is ccps intend to create a kind of big space/scifi simulator. the reason they didnt do walking avatars yet was because they couldn't do both: spaceships AND avatars at the same time. also if i remember correctly they could basicly not render more than one 3d character protrait (as in the character creator) simultanously back in the day due to hardware limitations. ccp has always been very upfront about that they want to broaden the spectrum of what eve offers to include things like planetary interaction and avatars.
Stu Pendisdick Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2010.07.21 15:57:00 - [62] No. No, I won't. Not until I can walk up behind a war target and shove a shank into the base of his skull, and watch him twitch the life from himself on the floor in death spasms, while I relieve myself all over his dying corpse. When I can do that, then I will want incarna. Not a damned moment sooner.
Argos Dracon Aliastra	Posted - 2010.07.21 16:07:00 - [63] Originally by: Stu Pendis** No. No, I won't. Not until I can walk up behind a war target and shove a shank into the base of his skull, and watch him twitch the life from himself on the floor in death spasms, while I relieve myself all over his dying corpse. When I can do that, then I will want incarna. Not a damned moment sooner. You need help. _______________________________________________ "I come in peace, I didn't bring artillery. But I am pleading with you with tears in my eyes: If you **** with me, I'll KILL** y
Traitorous Scum Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2010.07.21 16:14:00 - [64] Originally by: Stu Pendis**** No. No, I won't. Not until I can walk up behind a war target and shove a shank into the base of his skull, and watch him twitch the life from himself on the floor in death spasms, while I relieve myself all over his dying corpse. When I can do that, then I will want incarna. Not a damned moment sooner. So will 0.0 stations just be a pile of corpses with one avatar in the corner laughing? If so, Im game.
Cozmik R5 Minmatar Chaosstorm Corporation Apoapsis Multiversal Consortium	Posted - 2010.07.21 16:18:00 - [65] Edited by: Cozmik R5 on 21/07/2010 16:17:50 I'll only be interested if rocket-jumping and strafe-jumping works. Anyway, the real game happens in space; Incarna is just a new way of procrastinating in EVE. ____________________ Try not. Do. Or do not. There is no try.
Professor Tarantula Hedion University	Posted - 2010.07.21 16:29:00 - [66] Originally by: Stu Pendis**** No. No, I won't. Not until I can walk up behind a war target and shove a shank into the base of his skull, and watch him twitch the life from himself on the floor in death spasms, while I relieve myself all over his dying corpse. When I can do that, then I will want incarna. Not a damned moment sooner. So full of BS i can smell it from here. You`ll be clamoring to take part in Incarna like everyone else. Only difference is, you`ll be a deluded hypocrite. My deepest sympathies. Prof. Tarantula, Esq.
Florio Miniature Giant Space Hamsters	Posted - 2010.07.21 16:40:00 - [67] Edited by: Florio on 21/07/2010 16:40:55 I'll be happy if we get epic views in incarna: ship hulls disappearing upwards towards impossibly tall hangars etc. I'll feel let down if it's all cramped station corridors.
Corozan Aspinall Party Time Inc.	Posted - 2010.07.21 16:42:00 - [68] Originally by: Argos Dracon Originally by: Stu Pendis**** No. No, I won't. Not until I can walk up behind a war target and shove a shank into the base of his skull, and watch him twitch the life from himself on the floor in death spasms, while I relieve myself all over his dying corpse. When I can do that, then I will want incarna. Not a damned moment sooner. You need help. I'm free!!
Larg Kellein Caldari Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2010.07.21 17:16:00 - [69] Somewhat pretty, but let me check... Nope, still doesn't register on the old care-o-meter at all.
Asuri Kinnes Adhocracy Incorporated	Posted - 2010.07.21 18:22:00 - [70] Originally by: Larg Kellein Somewhat pretty, but let me check... Nope, still doesn't register on the old care-o-meter at all. QFT. I must've mislaid my meter, because I can't find a care either... I've been playing MMO's since UO came out, MUDS before that, 2600 baud (dial-up) modem muds... 2nd life/WoW/any other mmo > incarna. WTH are we going to do with it? Hold meetings, go to a bar, watch strippers? Dam, I don't attend meetings now, I have two bars w/in 10 mins (I live out in the country) and I don't go to strip clubs anymore... vOv I'm just praying that when Incarna is launched, we aren't moved to a random spot in a space station and have to "walk" back to our ships (Opt-out, instead of Opt-in). I really can't see any use for it. vOv Please re-size your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels with a maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Zymurgist NO!
Miriam Letisse	Posted - 2010.07.21 18:26:00 - [71] CCP's idea with EVE is to create the most extensive sci-fi MMO, they can't really do that without Incarna. I'm sure that after Incarna is released there'll be a whole new feature in planning that the pro Incarna crowd hate and the anti Incarna crowd love. Just like with every other feature basically.
Winters Chill Amarr Shadow Legion.	Posted - 2010.07.21 18:33:00 - [72] Originally by: Miriam Letisse CCP's idea with EVE is to create the most extensive sci-fi MMO ever, at the slowest possible pace ever Fixed it for ya.
Miriam Letisse	Posted - 2010.07.21 18:35:00 - [73] Originally by: Winters Chill Originally by: Miriam Letisse CCP's idea with EVE is to create the most extensive sci-fi MMO ever, at the slowest possible pace ever Fixed it for ya. Infinity: The Quest for Earth
Kewso	Posted - 2010.07.21 18:40:00 - [74] I seriously can't wait for Incarna, driving me crazy :) normally take breaks from playing 2 to 3 months solid cause being stuck in ship 24/7 does get boring after a while. course I can't wait for the commercials... "Hi I'm Mr. T and I'm a night elf mohawk.....WITH LASERS!" CCP hurry up and get this done!@#!@#
Slime Slurper	Posted - 2010.07.21 18:57:00 - [75] Where are all the old fat guys?
Larg Kellein Caldari Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2010.07.21 18:59:00 - [76] Originally by: Slime Slurper Where are all the old fat guys? On the other side of the screen.
Zeredek Gallente Vanguard Venture	Posted - 2010.07.21 19:02:00 - [77] Originally by: Larg Kellein Originally by: Slime Slurper Where are all the old fat guys? On the other side of the screen. Burn! Originally by: CCP Soundwave Shady deals? IN MY EVE ONLINE? I don't believe it.
siC0 b0b	Posted - 2010.07.21 19:02:00 - [78] still don't care, these are just decent graphics and eve ain't about that anyway, if anything it's the last thing i'd look forward to right now, eve has problems and it needs them fixed NOW not in a year
Durnin Stormbrow	Posted - 2010.07.21 19:10:00 - [79] Originally by: Pottsey Edited by: Pottsey on 21/07/2010 11:15:48 TheBlueMonkey said ôThis is a spaceship mmo, I fail to see any benefits of walking around in station.ö There can be benefits but only if CCP do a decent job like other space MMOÆs. Like being able to walk around your ship, invite people to your ship for meetings, have medals on show. Or better yet do what another MMO lets you do, fight around the ships corridors and rooms. Fight your way to the bridge or to the engine rooms or fight to free a person in the brig. These are all things we've been told Incarna will not give us. No combat. No walking in ships. That makes it a 3d chat room with hair cuts, poker tables & terminals for ship services. If you think they'll come back later and add all these things, consider past performance on finishing features that were released incomplete: Empyrean Age: Faction war full of bugs & exploits. Apocrypha: 5th T3 system? T3 frigs? Dominion: Sov rework. The missing treaties were supposed to make 0.0 accessible to small corps, and help the major alliances pay for their sov. Crippling fleet lag makes fighting for sov a coin toss. Tyranis: PI (jury is still out, we'll see what they do to fix it.) So, why do I want to walk in stations?
Ryhss Caldari Ominous Corp Circle-Of-Two	Posted - 2010.07.21 19:13:00 - [80] HOLY CRA....nope, still hate Incarna. Originally by: Abrazzar I don't know what's going on but I am terribly upset about it.
Slime Slurper	Posted - 2010.07.21 19:14:00 - [81] Originally by: Larg Kellein Originally by: Slime Slurper Where are all the old fat guys? On the other side of the screen. Damn...smoked! How about this: Where are all the small breasted women?
Nullity Gallente	Posted - 2010.07.21 20:50:00 - [82] There's no doubt Incarna will look great, but it adds nothing substantive to the gameplay at all as far as we know. Plus, if it truly does have no PVP element, that goes against the core principles of EVE's game design.
Rashmika Clavain Gallente	Posted - 2010.07.21 21:04:00 - [83] Just don't forget to set capital ships V away (or whatever) to make sure you've got a skill training long enough to cover the downtime and fallout
eca80	Posted - 2010.07.21 21:12:00 - [84] Originally by: Kewso I seriously can't wait for Incarna, driving me crazy :) being stuck in ship 24/7 does get boring after a while. CCP hurry up and get this done!@#!@# this :)
Cory Sopapilla Minmatar Kiroshi Group	Posted - 2010.07.21 21:12:00 - [85] Originally by: Kewso course I can't wait for the commercials... "Hi I'm Mr. T and I'm a night elf mohawk.....WITH LASERS!" More like "Hi, I'm Mr. T and I fly a Minmatar Mohawk! I'm nobodies slave, fool!"
Barakkus Hyasyoda Investments	Posted - 2010.07.21 21:46:00 - [86] Originally by: Cory Sopapilla Originally by: Kewso course I can't wait for the commercials... "Hi I'm Mr. T and I'm a night elf mohawk.....WITH LASERS!" More like "Hi, I'm Mr. T and I fly a Minmatar Mohawk! I'm nobodies slave, fool!" You called? Originally by: CCP Dropbear rofl edit: ah crap, dev account. Oh well, official rofl at you sir.
Lex Alandar Q Division 5	Posted - 2010.07.21 22:25:00 - [87] daydreams The leader of a large alliance is known for dropping his titan on random solo carriers. A plan is formed. You will be ready for him. The sacrificial carrier is put out to pasture in an anomaly in a system with a known cyno alt. He whiles away the time, yawning occasionally. Sure enough, a rapier uncloaks, cyno up, and bam, Erebus on overview. The call goes out over comms. ALL BACKUP WARP TO THE ANOM!!! TITAN AT ZERO!! A mighty fleet floods the local chat, the titan pilot, having finished locking, is now waiting for his Aurora of DOOOOM to finish cycling, madly checking scanner to determine the composition of the incoming fleet. More supercapital backup is on standby, but will it be enough for these numbers? The directional scanner fills up.....pages and pages of..... minmatar shuttle.... Soon the overview is overloaded, and comms is filled with screams of terror as pilot after pilot dies to the titan's backup smartbomb. But you make it through. You and your three friends. You dock on the ass end, disabling the warp engines as you exit the hastily-cut airlock. You and your friends begin the 16 kilometer trek to the bridge... Hours upon hours of combat, dozens of complete battalions, and a reload or billion later.... The titan pilot logs off... Petitions are lol'd at.
Dian Rasd Eyes Only.	Posted - 2010.07.22 00:02:00 - [88] I for one look forward to red latex suits online.
Miriam Letisse	Posted - 2010.07.22 00:13:00 - [89] Originally by: Nullity There's no doubt Incarna will look great, but it adds nothing substantive to the gameplay at all as far as we know. Plus, if it truly does have no PVP element, that goes against the core principles of EVE's game design. Right, because EVE is totally centered around PVP... Missions, mining, manufacturing, exploration, trading.. none of these are a part of EVE at all, no siree!
Noskill McCheese Minmatar	Posted - 2010.07.22 00:24:00 - [90] JEAN-BAPTISTE EMMANUEL ZORG IN MY EVE????one
Asruv'ynn GeoCorp. -Mostly Harmless-	Posted - 2010.07.22 01:15:00 - [91] that first picture looks like eva jobse with a crazy haircut
Dr BattleSmith PAX Interstellar Services	Posted - 2010.07.22 02:09:00 - [92] Originally by: Durnin Stormbrow That makes it a 3d chat room with hair cuts, poker tables & terminals for ship services. Except without the poker tables, hair cuts or ship terminals lol
Lt Angus Caldari the united Negative Ten.	Posted - 2010.07.22 03:08:00 - [93] Originally by: Miriam Letisse Originally by: Nullity There's no doubt Incarna will look great, but it adds nothing substantive to the gameplay at all as far as we know. Plus, if it truly does have no PVP element, that goes against the core principles of EVE's game design. Right, because EVE is totally centered around PVP... Missions, mining, manufacturing, exploration, trading.. none of these are a part of EVE at all, no siree! I hope you are joking please resize your signature to the maximum allowed file size of 24000 bytes. Navigator Shhhh, Im hunting Badgers
kri tak	Posted - 2010.07.22 03:15:00 - [94] So what happens with incarna at jita?, will be all locked in our rooms when the system overloads? at 4/4
HeliosGal Caldari	Posted - 2010.07.22 03:22:00 - [95] nice
arjun Viziam	Posted - 2010.07.22 05:51:00 - [96] so let me see. would be interesting if my competitors could raid my storeroom in jita 4. would i need to hire guards or what? would add some flavor to the game though
Nullity Gallente	Posted - 2010.07.22 06:24:00 - [97] Edited by: Nullity on 22/07/2010 06:27:25 Edited by: Nullity on 22/07/2010 06:25:55 Edited by: Nullity on 22/07/2010 06:25:41 Edited by: Nullity on 22/07/2010 06:24:49 Originally by: Miriam Letisse Originally by: Nullity There's no doubt Incarna will look great, but it adds nothing substantive to the gameplay at all as far as we know. Plus, if it truly does have no PVP element, that goes against the core principles of EVE's game design. Right, because EVE is totally centered around PVP... Missions, mining, manufacturing, exploration, trading.. none of these are a part of EVE at all, no siree! Just because some of those specific examples aren't immediately connected to PVP does not change the fact that EVE, at its core, is a PVP game. It is perhaps one of the most PVP-oriented MMOs of all time. Also, if you notice, all of the examples you listed can be connected to PVP in some way because there is no absolutely safe space in EVE. Even trading on the market can result in you falling for a scam, which is a form of market PVP. Incarna, as it has been described, has no competitive aspects whatsoever. This clashes immensely with EVE's dark and deadly world. The sad thing is, a very long time ago, perhaps around late 2004 or 2005, I distinctly remember CCP saying they wouldn't implement walking in stations until they had meaningful content for it that matched the world of EVE. That idea was quickly scrapped though when Incarna instead became a testing ground for what will eventually be World of Darkness Online.
TheBlueMonkey Gallente Priory Of The Lemon Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2010.07.22 07:52:00 - [98] Originally by: Miriam Letisse Originally by: Nullity There's no doubt Incarna will look great, but it adds nothing substantive to the gameplay at all as far as we know. Plus, if it truly does have no PVP element, that goes against the core principles of EVE's game design. Right, because EVE is totally centered around PVP... Missions, mining, manufacturing, exploration, trading.. none of these are a part of EVE at all, no siree! It started out that way and just as I start getting into pvp it starts getting more and more nerfed. Also... Trade is pure PVP you nub, you're trading against other players. The second you realise that and stop just randomly undercutting other players you'll realise it's more fun and actually difficult. -- Nothing is worthless, you may have gotten it for free but it still has an inherent value
Quake Abuse Amarr Viziam	Posted - 2010.07.22 08:41:00 - [99] people having the exact same conversations about incarna for 4 or 5 years now, it doesnt take that long to make a bloody station interior simulator when you're a developer with as much staff as CCP, its vaporware it'll never be released no matter how many fanboys caw on about how great it's gonna be.
Stitcher Caldari Lai Dai Infinity Systems	Posted - 2010.07.22 10:11:00 - [100] Originally by: Quake Abuse people having the exact same conversations about incarna for 4 or 5 years now, it doesnt take that long to make a bloody station interior simulator when you're a developer with as much staff as CCP, its vaporware it'll never be released no matter how many fanboys caw on about how great it's gonna be. Why do people keep saying that it's been going for four or five years? I've been PLAYING for four and a half years and back when I started and for a good half of my subscription time, Incarna was one of those "it'd be nice, but we have no plans to do it for a long time" things. All of the footage and demonstrations of it that I've ever seen have been younger than or contemporary with the Trinity graphics update, which was released in December 2007, so we're up to only two and a half years right now. And they're positing a phased deployment between winter 2010/Summer 2011? So, 3 to 3.5 years development time. Sounds reasonable to me. I mean for smeg's sake if you're going to whine, at least whine accurately. - - Verin "Stitcher" Hakatain.
Nullity Gallente	Posted - 2010.07.22 10:31:00 - [101] Edited by: Nullity on 22/07/2010 10:31:31 Originally by: Stitcher Originally by: Quake Abuse people having the exact same conversations about incarna for 4 or 5 years now, it doesnt take that long to make a bloody station interior simulator when you're a developer with as much staff as CCP, its vaporware it'll never be released no matter how many fanboys caw on about how great it's gonna be. Why do people keep saying that it's been going for four or five years? I've been PLAYING for four and a half years and back when I started and for a good half of my subscription time, Incarna was one of those "it'd be nice, but we have no plans to do it for a long time" things. All of the footage and demonstrations of it that I've ever seen have been younger than or contemporary with the Trinity graphics update, which was released in December 2007, so we're up to only two and a half years right now. And they're positing a phased deployment between winter 2010/Summer 2011? So, 3 to 3.5 years development time. Sounds reasonable to me. I mean for smeg's sake if you're going to whine, at least whine accurately. He is whining accurately. I've been playing since 2004. Incarna, then called Ambulation, was announced in late 2006. It's going on four years since it was announced. It's probably been in development long than that. I'm guessing 4.5 years or so at the moment. This is a feature that has been perpetually promised "next year." Quake Abuse is making a good point.

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