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ShyLion
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Posted - 2004.12.20 05:51:00 -
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Why there is only one seller for that type for the whole region and the price is 15 MILLIONS!!!!
Is there only one BPO in the game for that module???
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ShyLion
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Posted - 2004.12.20 05:51:00 -
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Why there is only one seller for that type for the whole region and the price is 15 MILLIONS!!!!
Is there only one BPO in the game for that module???
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Lhyda Souljacker
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Posted - 2004.12.20 05:56:00 -
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I've wondered about this too. I believe one of the alliances managed to get all the BPOs for it and has the price fixed. Anyone know for sure on this?
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Lhyda Souljacker
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Posted - 2004.12.20 05:56:00 -
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I've wondered about this too. I believe one of the alliances managed to get all the BPOs for it and has the price fixed. Anyone know for sure on this?
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Sc0rpion
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Posted - 2004.12.20 06:35:00 -
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AFAIK, aside from the occasional reseller or hangar clearing, there are only 2 sources of cap recharger II's available to the public.
One is FA. I don't know how many BPO's they have, but it's more than one and they are always trying to get the others specifically because they are in limited supply. Those are the ones you see going for 12-20 million on the market and escrow.
The other source is from Old Farts. They price on a sliding scale based on your faction with thier corp, from about 4.5 million, up to around 15 million. They do not, however appear to be in mass production, and the only way I know of to obtain some is through private (and limited volume) orders.
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Sc0rpion
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Posted - 2004.12.20 06:35:00 -
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AFAIK, aside from the occasional reseller or hangar clearing, there are only 2 sources of cap recharger II's available to the public.
One is FA. I don't know how many BPO's they have, but it's more than one and they are always trying to get the others specifically because they are in limited supply. Those are the ones you see going for 12-20 million on the market and escrow.
The other source is from Old Farts. They price on a sliding scale based on your faction with thier corp, from about 4.5 million, up to around 15 million. They do not, however appear to be in mass production, and the only way I know of to obtain some is through private (and limited volume) orders.
"The true secret to enjoying life is to live it dangerously."
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Kai Lae
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Posted - 2004.12.20 07:05:00 -
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Well, a quick check (to be sure) of the fountian T2 listing confirms what I already had remembered - no fountian corp has the T2 cap recharger. Cap booster, yes. Cap Battery, yes. Cap recharger, no. I've heard this before and *it's a myth*. Unfortunately, since it would be nice to be raking in the millions.
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Kai Lae
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Posted - 2004.12.20 07:05:00 -
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Well, a quick check (to be sure) of the fountian T2 listing confirms what I already had remembered - no fountian corp has the T2 cap recharger. Cap booster, yes. Cap Battery, yes. Cap recharger, no. I've heard this before and *it's a myth*. Unfortunately, since it would be nice to be raking in the millions.
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Lorth
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Posted - 2004.12.20 07:39:00 -
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You know it seems I have heard that FA has had every tech 2 BPO in the game at one point or anouther.
I once heard, from several sources that fountain had the large armor repaier 2 BPO that was droped by mistake. I can remember hearing it from people all over, however one has never surfaced.
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Lorth
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Posted - 2004.12.20 07:39:00 -
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You know it seems I have heard that FA has had every tech 2 BPO in the game at one point or anouther.
I once heard, from several sources that fountain had the large armor repaier 2 BPO that was droped by mistake. I can remember hearing it from people all over, however one has never surfaced.
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Feta Solamnia
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Posted - 2004.12.20 09:17:00 -
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the pricing must be based on the simple two facts:
a) the demand for ths item is amazing
b)the production time s too big and/or the prints feeding the market are very limited.
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Feta Solamnia
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Posted - 2004.12.20 09:17:00 -
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the pricing must be based on the simple two facts:
a) the demand for ths item is amazing
b)the production time s too big and/or the prints feeding the market are very limited.
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Shayla Sh'inlux
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Posted - 2004.12.20 09:21:00 -
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The build time can't be that long, considering it's a generic item. I see Heat Sinks II and Small Armor repairers all over the place. My guess is that some of the BPO's are in hangars of people that quit the game and the other few are in hands of the people that charge 10-15mil each.
IMO it's avout time CCP distributes some 8-10 more of these BPO's of such a basic item.
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Shayla Sh'inlux
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Posted - 2004.12.20 09:21:00 -
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The build time can't be that long, considering it's a generic item. I see Heat Sinks II and Small Armor repairers all over the place. My guess is that some of the BPO's are in hangars of people that quit the game and the other few are in hands of the people that charge 10-15mil each.
IMO it's avout time CCP distributes some 8-10 more of these BPO's of such a basic item.
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Fi T'Zeh
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Posted - 2004.12.20 09:38:00 -
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PA ships used to drop Charger 2's so i guess they had a contact
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Fi T'Zeh
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Posted - 2004.12.20 09:38:00 -
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PA ships used to drop Charger 2's so i guess they had a contact
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Siddy
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Posted - 2004.12.20 09:47:00 -
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they used to be 9 mill...
afaik im not going to buy them for 15 mill, ill rather go pop some NPC huntters or use t1 named 
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Siddy
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Posted - 2004.12.20 09:47:00 -
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they used to be 9 mill...
afaik im not going to buy them for 15 mill, ill rather go pop some NPC huntters or use t1 named
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Zyrla Bladestorm
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Posted - 2004.12.20 09:55:00 -
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what I'd heard was that it was Xanadu that had bought half a dozen of the BPO and (according to old farts, or what I remember of one of there posts) had been buying up any other people put up for less than theyre prices
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Apologys for any rambling that may have just occurred.
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Zyrla Bladestorm
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Posted - 2004.12.20 09:55:00 -
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what I'd heard was that it was Xanadu that had bought half a dozen of the BPO and (according to old farts, or what I remember of one of there posts) had been buying up any other people put up for less than theyre prices
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Apologys for any rambling that may have just occurred.
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Tactician
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Posted - 2004.12.20 09:59:00 -
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just before exodus there was a guy selling at 6 mil a pop, which considering they usually sell for 15M each is quite commendable, unfortunatly u had to check regularly cos market griefers would buy them all up and hike the price up to 15M within about an hour, i was fortunate enough to find a number of them them at that price from the same guy on several occasions so im guessing he has a bpo or a source he can get prints from, naturally I bought a few and sold them on to my corp mates at cost price, cant let deals like that slip by :)
Anyway, whoever that guy is can he come back :) as i said before very commendable selling at that price and not going with the crowd and jacking the price up
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Tactician
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Posted - 2004.12.20 09:59:00 -
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just before exodus there was a guy selling at 6 mil a pop, which considering they usually sell for 15M each is quite commendable, unfortunatly u had to check regularly cos market griefers would buy them all up and hike the price up to 15M within about an hour, i was fortunate enough to find a number of them them at that price from the same guy on several occasions so im guessing he has a bpo or a source he can get prints from, naturally I bought a few and sold them on to my corp mates at cost price, cant let deals like that slip by :)
Anyway, whoever that guy is can he come back :) as i said before very commendable selling at that price and not going with the crowd and jacking the price up
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dabster
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Posted - 2004.12.20 10:23:00 -
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Clearly FA are the root of all evil and the owners of all cap-recharger II's in the game.
Either that or people might want to read all posts before they keep saying things they "think" they know, or "heard".
PS. There was a post here 1-2months ago about somebodys hauler getting blown up in empire, he was carrying xxx cap-recharger II's because that corp had a BPO. Some random isk-sulking production-corp iirc.
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dabster
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Posted - 2004.12.20 10:23:00 -
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Clearly FA are the root of all evil and the owners of all cap-recharger II's in the game.
Either that or people might want to read all posts before they keep saying things they "think" they know, or "heard".
PS. There was a post here 1-2months ago about somebodys hauler getting blown up in empire, he was carrying xxx cap-recharger II's because that corp had a BPO. Some random isk-sulking production-corp iirc.
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Urfin
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Posted - 2004.12.20 10:26:00 -
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Edited by: Urfin on 20/12/2004 10:28:02
The current monopoly situation is a mistake, an imbalance, and needs to be fixed. Don't get me wrong, I don't really care/envy those ppl that exploit the flawed BPO distrib system, but for me and most ppl I know Cap II is as good as not in game, and not becaue we can't afford it - it's simply not worth the price. The BPO distrib is a mistake because it cannot be balanced by player effort - there's no game mechanic that lets players influence monopolies in EVE, and no government regulation of the economy either for tech II.
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Urfin
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Posted - 2004.12.20 10:26:00 -
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Edited by: Urfin on 20/12/2004 10:28:02
The current monopoly situation is a mistake, an imbalance, and needs to be fixed. Don't get me wrong, I don't really care/envy those ppl that exploit the flawed BPO distrib system, but for me and most ppl I know Cap II is as good as not in game, and not becaue we can't afford it - it's simply not worth the price. The BPO distrib is a mistake because it cannot be balanced by player effort - there's no game mechanic that lets players influence monopolies in EVE, and no government regulation of the economy either for tech II.
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Aitrus
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Posted - 2004.12.20 10:52:00 -
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Edited by: Aitrus on 20/12/2004 10:54:10
Well, if someone *did* front massive isk to buy up the BPO supply, you really can't fault the game mechanics. Monopolies are a possibility. Someone might have pulled it off legitimately. If so, well played.
I'd be more angry at the people who were willing to sell what is arguably one of the most valuble BPO's in the game to date. No price tag is worth giving up the possible income from that thing. Anyone who sold one is either lazy, or stupid. Noone with any sense would give up the ability to make a mod for a few hundred thousand isk and sell in excess of 10mil.
EDIT: Eve's economy is purely capitalistic, so there should not be any mechanism to completely block monopolies/cartels. It should just be very difficult. 20+ random BPO drops makes it very hard to control all of them.
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Aitrus
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Posted - 2004.12.20 10:52:00 -
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Edited by: Aitrus on 20/12/2004 10:54:10
Well, if someone *did* front massive isk to buy up the BPO supply, you really can't fault the game mechanics. Monopolies are a possibility. Someone might have pulled it off legitimately. If so, well played.
I'd be more angry at the people who were willing to sell what is arguably one of the most valuble BPO's in the game to date. No price tag is worth giving up the possible income from that thing. Anyone who sold one is either lazy, or stupid. Noone with any sense would give up the ability to make a mod for a few hundred thousand isk and sell in excess of 10mil.
EDIT: Eve's economy is purely capitalistic, so there should not be any mechanism to completely block monopolies/cartels. It should just be very difficult. 20+ random BPO drops makes it very hard to control all of them.
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Shirei
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Posted - 2004.12.20 11:23:00 -
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Edited by: Shirei on 20/12/2004 11:24:06
As far as I can remember.. Cap recharger IIs were originally like 5-7 mil on the market when they came out.
But they need super conductors (trade commodity) to build and the NPC supply of those was removed for a while at some point, so the price for cap rechargers went up a lot due to decreased supply. After NPC supply for super conductors came back, however, it seems that people had already gotten used to the higher prices, so that producers could keep selling them at those. 
I know for a fact, however, that there are at least 3 different suppliers (possibly more) for those, so no monopoly.
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Shirei
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Posted - 2004.12.20 11:23:00 -
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Edited by: Shirei on 20/12/2004 11:24:06
As far as I can remember.. Cap recharger IIs were originally like 5-7 mil on the market when they came out.
But they need super conductors (trade commodity) to build and the NPC supply of those was removed for a while at some point, so the price for cap rechargers went up a lot due to decreased supply. After NPC supply for super conductors came back, however, it seems that people had already gotten used to the higher prices, so that producers could keep selling them at those.
I know for a fact, however, that there are at least 3 different suppliers (possibly more) for those, so no monopoly.
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