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siim
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Posted - 2004.12.20 11:44:00 -
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I've heard that SE holds the most bp's of cap rechargers
I could buy 1 for 6 mil but DAMN its way too expensive cuz it cost only 100k to make 1
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siim
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Posted - 2004.12.20 11:44:00 -
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I've heard that SE holds the most bp's of cap rechargers
I could buy 1 for 6 mil but DAMN its way too expensive cuz it cost only 100k to make 1
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BuRnEr
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Posted - 2004.12.20 12:31:00 -
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Originally by: Shirei
As far as I can remember.. Cap recharger IIs were originally like 5-7 mil on the market when they came out.
na, 2mill, the first batch came out right before the cpr nerf so ppl was still shield tanking apoc,megas etc.
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BuRnEr
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Posted - 2004.12.20 12:31:00 -
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Originally by: Shirei
As far as I can remember.. Cap recharger IIs were originally like 5-7 mil on the market when they came out.
na, 2mill, the first batch came out right before the cpr nerf so ppl was still shield tanking apoc,megas etc.
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Iratus Caelestis
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Posted - 2004.12.20 13:16:00 -
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Originally by: Shayla Sh'inlux
IMO it's avout time CCP distributes some 8-10 more of these BPO's of such a basic item.
CCP have said that if the BPO's for a tech 2 item do get released and non are being manufactured they will look into who holds and the BPO and if someone has left the game with one they may release more. It's not fair to just do it adhoc though as that dilutes an existing players investment.
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Iratus Caelestis
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Posted - 2004.12.20 13:16:00 -
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Originally by: Shayla Sh'inlux
IMO it's avout time CCP distributes some 8-10 more of these BPO's of such a basic item.
CCP have said that if the BPO's for a tech 2 item do get released and non are being manufactured they will look into who holds and the BPO and if someone has left the game with one they may release more. It's not fair to just do it adhoc though as that dilutes an existing players investment.
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Elrathias
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Posted - 2004.12.20 13:18:00 -
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There is a CA in Votf that holds the cap recharger II bpo according to rumors. --------------------------
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Elrathias
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Posted - 2004.12.20 13:18:00 -
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There is a CA in Votf that holds the cap recharger II bpo according to rumors. --------------------------
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Heero Yuy
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Posted - 2004.12.20 13:18:00 -
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Isnt this game about gaining the advantage over every one else? You can hardly blame any one for taking advantage. I think it would be less interesting game wise if such great items became so readily available.
- i cant afford any, but fortunatly neither can most people!
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Heero Yuy
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Posted - 2004.12.20 13:18:00 -
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Isnt this game about gaining the advantage over every one else? You can hardly blame any one for taking advantage. I think it would be less interesting game wise if such great items became so readily available.
- i cant afford any, but fortunatly neither can most people!
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Heptameron
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Posted - 2004.12.20 13:39:00 -
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I don't think CCP should change it to suit the people who haven't got the BPO. They have reacted quickly to market demands and bought the rest off pilots with only short term goals ie cash in pocket now cause i want a big bad BS.
I personally wish we had uber rat spawns at random locations both in and out of empire that dropped a BPO worth a lot of money. That way any pilot in the game might get lucky. I mean could you imagine taking down a spawn similar to an uber lvl 4 kill mission in deadspace in a .9 sector and walking away with a titan BP?
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Heptameron
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Posted - 2004.12.20 13:39:00 -
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I don't think CCP should change it to suit the people who haven't got the BPO. They have reacted quickly to market demands and bought the rest off pilots with only short term goals ie cash in pocket now cause i want a big bad BS.
I personally wish we had uber rat spawns at random locations both in and out of empire that dropped a BPO worth a lot of money. That way any pilot in the game might get lucky. I mean could you imagine taking down a spawn similar to an uber lvl 4 kill mission in deadspace in a .9 sector and walking away with a titan BP?
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Mitchman
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Posted - 2004.12.20 13:47:00 -
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I wouldn't say it's a monopoly, it's more of a price cartel. The end result is that it is much more expensive to shield tank than armor tank, and THAT should worry CCP. Unfortunately, they don't seem to wanna do anything about the situation.
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Mitchman
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Posted - 2004.12.20 13:47:00 -
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I wouldn't say it's a monopoly, it's more of a price cartel. The end result is that it is much more expensive to shield tank than armor tank, and THAT should worry CCP. Unfortunately, they don't seem to wanna do anything about the situation.
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Bellac
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Posted - 2004.12.20 13:48:00 -
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A far as i can see - those who own the BPO must be doing so for a tactical advantage. The price being set so high means that only a few people will buy them, so very few are actually being used.
On the other hand cap recharges must be one of the most common items fitted to ships, so it the price was dropped to say 1 mill each, its probably fair to say that these corps would sell more than 20x the number they currently sell, so their profits would be greater.
I for one, as someone with loads of tech 2 prod experience, can say with all honesty that if i had a BPO i would be making 23/7 to try and satisfy the demand and raking in more than enough profit to keep me happy along the way.
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Bellac
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Posted - 2004.12.20 13:48:00 -
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A far as i can see - those who own the BPO must be doing so for a tactical advantage. The price being set so high means that only a few people will buy them, so very few are actually being used.
On the other hand cap recharges must be one of the most common items fitted to ships, so it the price was dropped to say 1 mill each, its probably fair to say that these corps would sell more than 20x the number they currently sell, so their profits would be greater.
I for one, as someone with loads of tech 2 prod experience, can say with all honesty that if i had a BPO i would be making 23/7 to try and satisfy the demand and raking in more than enough profit to keep me happy along the way.
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RollinDutchMasters
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Posted - 2004.12.20 13:53:00 -
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Basically, CCP screwed the pooch on cap recharger IIs. They released all the BPOs back in febuary, and thanks to the fact that they were only 15% at the time, combined with the excellent effectiveness of CPRs, the BPOs were worthless. Many of the worthless BPOs were auctioned for basically a song, and I've heard that most of them ended up in the same hands.
Then CCP nerfed the CPR, and increased the Cap Recharger II in effectiveness by a third. This is the only tech2 market that is not and will never eventually come down in price because of the monopolistic nature of the market. I kind of wish i had a BPO though, since right now, with the prices on market, theyre making about 400m a day in profit.
Originally by: Sochin CCP has provided you with the tools you need to avoid crime. You're just too lazy/stupid to use them.
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RollinDutchMasters
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Posted - 2004.12.20 13:53:00 -
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Basically, CCP screwed the pooch on cap recharger IIs. They released all the BPOs back in febuary, and thanks to the fact that they were only 15% at the time, combined with the excellent effectiveness of CPRs, the BPOs were worthless. Many of the worthless BPOs were auctioned for basically a song, and I've heard that most of them ended up in the same hands.
Then CCP nerfed the CPR, and increased the Cap Recharger II in effectiveness by a third. This is the only tech2 market that is not and will never eventually come down in price because of the monopolistic nature of the market. I kind of wish i had a BPO though, since right now, with the prices on market, theyre making about 400m a day in profit.
Originally by: Sochin CCP has provided you with the tools you need to avoid crime. You're just too lazy/stupid to use them.
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drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2004.12.20 14:29:00 -
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er.. i heard that someone's corpmate read that they thought that.. er.... Xetic Alliance have got them all.
Okay, have we covered all the alliances yet?
As for people complaining that they can't get them, I'm afraid that's just tough. If you can't afford something, then generally, you can't have it.
Kudos to whoever decided to snap these things up. Sometimes, that sort of thing can be a loss, but in this case, it turned out to be a win.
A risk taken, and a reward earned.
I would think the second round of drops for this particular BP must be on the cards soon though. Iheard there would be a two-stage BPO drop system, with a few in the first round of drops, and more in the second round, to enable a monopoly, but not an eternal monopoly.
As for where they all are, a few people might even have refused them (not everyone in eve is clever, after all ) .
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drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2004.12.20 14:29:00 -
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er.. i heard that someone's corpmate read that they thought that.. er.... Xetic Alliance have got them all.
Okay, have we covered all the alliances yet?
As for people complaining that they can't get them, I'm afraid that's just tough. If you can't afford something, then generally, you can't have it.
Kudos to whoever decided to snap these things up. Sometimes, that sort of thing can be a loss, but in this case, it turned out to be a win.
A risk taken, and a reward earned.
I would think the second round of drops for this particular BP must be on the cards soon though. Iheard there would be a two-stage BPO drop system, with a few in the first round of drops, and more in the second round, to enable a monopoly, but not an eternal monopoly.
As for where they all are, a few people might even have refused them (not everyone in eve is clever, after all ) .
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Skelator
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Posted - 2004.12.20 15:00:00 -
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Originally by: Elrathias There is a CA in Votf that holds the cap recharger II bpo according to rumors.
Ebil VOTF Pssssssssst... i also hear the Ebil VOTF hold the secret recipe to Quafe also...

They have us Surrounded again.. the Poor Bastards |

Skelator
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Posted - 2004.12.20 15:00:00 -
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Originally by: Elrathias There is a CA in Votf that holds the cap recharger II bpo according to rumors.
Ebil VOTF Pssssssssst... i also hear the Ebil VOTF hold the secret recipe to Quafe also...

They have us Surrounded again.. the Poor Bastards |

JoCool
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Posted - 2004.12.20 15:12:00 -
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Originally by: siim I've heard that SE holds the most bp's of cap rechargers
I could buy 1 for 6 mil but DAMN its way too expensive cuz it cost only 100k to make 1
:)
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JoCool
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Posted - 2004.12.20 15:12:00 -
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Originally by: siim I've heard that SE holds the most bp's of cap rechargers
I could buy 1 for 6 mil but DAMN its way too expensive cuz it cost only 100k to make 1
:)
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Sc0rpion
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Posted - 2004.12.20 18:38:00 -
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I don't see the problem here. Do I like the prospect of paying 15 million + for something that costs 100k to make? Of course not. But I certainly DO like the prospect of my research agent handing ME a rare BPO, so that I too can actually turn a profit manufacturing.
If people are really that upset about the number of cap recharger II BPO's, maybe they should stop researching starship engineering and start researching high energy physics.
Oh yeah, and STOP SELLING THEM TO ALLIANCES FOR QUICK CASH
"The true secret to enjoying life is to live it dangerously."
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Sc0rpion
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Posted - 2004.12.20 18:38:00 -
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I don't see the problem here. Do I like the prospect of paying 15 million + for something that costs 100k to make? Of course not. But I certainly DO like the prospect of my research agent handing ME a rare BPO, so that I too can actually turn a profit manufacturing.
If people are really that upset about the number of cap recharger II BPO's, maybe they should stop researching starship engineering and start researching high energy physics.
Oh yeah, and STOP SELLING THEM TO ALLIANCES FOR QUICK CASH
"The true secret to enjoying life is to live it dangerously."
-Freidrich Nietzche |

MSDborris
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Posted - 2004.12.20 18:46:00 -
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Right, a month ago i spoke to my ceo and every ceo/directer in SE i could get my hands on i couldnt get any t2 cap recharger's at any price. so who know's
the way i got my hands on the 3 t2 cap recharge i have is by placing a buy order in lumin 7-6 for a set price and SCREAM at every market channel i know that the buy order is there >_< (( i now have 3 ))
But trust me if everyone here wants to start talking about t2 cap items lets talk about the one and only cap realy T2 being in curse space ? (( its a shame ill never see such items ever, ))
***** " MSDborris, " Baka!, Hentia! "
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MSDborris
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Posted - 2004.12.20 18:46:00 -
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Right, a month ago i spoke to my ceo and every ceo/directer in SE i could get my hands on i couldnt get any t2 cap recharger's at any price. so who know's
the way i got my hands on the 3 t2 cap recharge i have is by placing a buy order in lumin 7-6 for a set price and SCREAM at every market channel i know that the buy order is there >_< (( i now have 3 ))
But trust me if everyone here wants to start talking about t2 cap items lets talk about the one and only cap realy T2 being in curse space ? (( its a shame ill never see such items ever, ))
***** " MSDborris, " Baka!, Hentia! "
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Mikelangelo
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Posted - 2004.12.20 19:27:00 -
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Back when the BPOs came out, people could not find enough superconductors to build them, or the superconductors were going for 100k each (remember that?).
So, they probably sold their BPOs.
Welcome to the Miner2 syndrome all over again. Isn't if funny how history repeats itself?
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Mikelangelo
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Posted - 2004.12.20 19:27:00 -
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Back when the BPOs came out, people could not find enough superconductors to build them, or the superconductors were going for 100k each (remember that?).
So, they probably sold their BPOs.
Welcome to the Miner2 syndrome all over again. Isn't if funny how history repeats itself?
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