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Travesty T
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Posted - 2010.07.26 20:31:00 -
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Are the mineral prices ever going to go back up? i run 3 miners all from mining veld and plag and selling the refined ore. its getting harder and harder to buy plex each month, will there ever be an end to this depression?
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israus
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Posted - 2010.07.26 20:34:00 -
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not unless you stop mining :D
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Travesty T
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Posted - 2010.07.26 20:37:00 -
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i noticed i wasnt helping the problem get any better so i started making battleships but i would rather just sell the ore
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Zenon Mu
Advanced Assemblies and Sciences
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Posted - 2010.07.26 20:41:00 -
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even better: build battlecruisers, T1 weapons and start killing your competition in the next belt
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Travesty T
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Posted - 2010.07.26 21:54:00 -
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how can i make mineral prices go up?
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Azelle Storm'Eye
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Posted - 2010.07.26 21:59:00 -
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 Originally by: Travesty T
how can i make mineral prices go up?
Viagra ?
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Sazkyen
State War Academy
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Posted - 2010.07.26 22:07:00 -
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Edited by: Sazkyen on 26/07/2010 22:07:26
Everyone stop mining for one day. If we're lucky we'll see the spike in a few months... 
-SIG-
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mechtech
SRS Industries
SRS.
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Posted - 2010.07.26 22:14:00 -
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Mineral prices were artificially held up by insurance payouts. Now the market is free, the prices will drop until people stop mining because it becomes too unprofitable. Prices are still dropping, so equilibrium hasn't yet been met.
Another unfortunate side effect is many people's response to falling prices is bring more accounts online to mine, which will just bring more minerals in to the game and drop prices faster.
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Travesty T
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Posted - 2010.07.26 22:17:00 -
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so how many miners could eve support?
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mechtech
SRS Industries
SRS.
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Posted - 2010.07.26 22:25:00 -
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There's no way to answer a question like that... All I can tell you are the fundamentals driving the market behavior. Minerals were artificially inflated due to insurance fraud, and now that insurance is linked to mineral prices, supply/demand will bring mineral prices to where they should have been all along. Where that will be is subject to debate.
Here's a graph, make your own conclusions: http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/4027/forgemin21july.gif
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Brock Nelson
Caldari
Flux Technologies Inc
SRS.
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Posted - 2010.07.26 23:35:00 -
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Originally by: Travesty T
so how many miners could eve support?
Unlimited. Mining was never profitable, you're better off doing missions or getting into more advanced industrial profession
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Caleb Ayrania
Gallente
TarNec
manufacturing disaster
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Posted - 2010.07.26 23:51:00 -
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Mining = lim Zero Risk. => More players => More mining => Lower prices
FIX Aggression and risk reward distribution.
Ex. Reduced response of concord in belts and plexes.
Allow cooldown on security status, or easier re-entry into high sec.
Allow free aggression from players of HIGH security. Ex. +5 shoots a -5 The winner shifts the security status thus converting a small amount into his status. Criminal win => +4.75 vs. -6. If the difference between pilot and system security is above 5 shooting is free for all, but gates and stations wont aggress unless the criminal is further than 10 from system security.
More roaming and more player created justice and crime. The low sec barrier atm is segregating players to much..
^^NEEDs tweaking on balance.. but basically a more dynamic system would be really nice.
PVP is good GRIEFING is bad.. Question is where does one change into the other..
Tycoon wannabe go here: SCC Lounge
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israus
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Posted - 2010.07.27 00:15:00 -
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I find it kind of funny really when CCP accounced the loot nerf they said that the mission runners would get less loot but because the ore was going to be worth more they wouldn't lose out any
LMAO somebody at CCP need's there head examaning problem is CCP have spent the last few years increasing the supply of minerals to the market. hidden belts, increased veld spawn rates, drone regions. but don't add anything extra to really to use that ore one. last 2 sets of goodys we've had t3 ships and PI all use new items added to the market for them.
so till CCP find more ways to dump minerals the mineral basket as such will remain poor.
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Vasaczk
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Posted - 2010.07.27 00:24:00 -
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Originally by: Travesty T
Are the mineral prices ever going to go back up? i run 3 miners all from mining veld and plag and selling the refined ore. its getting harder and harder to buy plex each month, will there ever be an end to this depression?
What makes you think the prices should go up?
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Travesty T
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Posted - 2010.07.27 00:26:00 -
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they should go up so people who like to mine will keep playing. maybe if they increased the mineral cost to build ships it would help
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Vasaczk
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Posted - 2010.07.27 00:29:00 -
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Originally by: Travesty T
they should go up so people who like to mine will keep playing. maybe if they increased the mineral cost to build ships it would help
Why do you mine?
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Travesty T
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Posted - 2010.07.27 00:33:00 -
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because i like mining
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Vasaczk
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Posted - 2010.07.27 00:37:00 -
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Originally by: Travesty T
because i like mining
Then, what does it matter how much you get for your ore/minerals?
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Travesty T
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Posted - 2010.07.27 00:42:00 -
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because i have to buy plex to be able to play
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Skadi vonNiflheim
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Posted - 2010.07.27 00:55:00 -
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Originally by: Travesty T
because i like mining
Cammon dude dont lie, every1 knos mining is as entertaining as STDs. By u having 3 miners ur part of the problem not the solution. The only way to raise the prices if for one day or even a wekk if all the miners stoped. In that week the ship and mods demand will sky rocket coz no 1 has any ore to make them out of and after that week ul be making double the isk. Or... this just work mabe, if all the miners came down to low sec 2 mine. Then the your sacrifice will be remembered for ending the res session.
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Travesty T
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Posted - 2010.07.27 00:56:00 -
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there is no way to get all the miners to stop mining for any amount of time and even if they did they probably have minerals stored up that they are just waiting to sell.
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Vasaczk
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Posted - 2010.07.27 01:01:00 -
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Originally by: Travesty T
because i have to buy plex to be able to play
Look I have a certain amount of sympathy for you because of the existence of macros, but come on man, if you like it that much, then why don't you pay for it like a whole bunch of the population (including myself)?
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SurrenderMonkey
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Posted - 2010.07.27 01:02:00 -
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Originally by: Travesty T
there is no way to get all the miners to stop mining for any amount of time and even if they did they probably have minerals stored up that they are just waiting to sell.
There is an overabundance of miners because mining is ludicrously easy. It requires close to no attention. It's trivial to macro it, and if you're unwilling to do that, you can still spend the bulk of the time completely AFK. It takes what, a month or so to get a new character into a Hulk?
Minerals are selling for what they're worth. If that's a problem for you, I recommend finding another profession.
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Travesty T
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Posted - 2010.07.27 01:05:00 -
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i think the only real solution would be to double or even triple the amount of minerals from high sec needed for production.
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SurrenderMonkey
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Posted - 2010.07.27 01:19:00 -
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Originally by: Travesty T
i think the only real solution would be to double or even triple the amount of minerals from high sec needed for production.
So that would mean it would take about 3 freighters full of minerals to make a single carrier, effectively punishing manufacturers for the fact that miners are too stupid to get into a more lucrative profession.
Yeah, no.
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Henri Rearden
Gallente
XII Legion
Southern Connection
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Posted - 2010.07.27 01:20:00 -
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I don't think mineral prices have been down far enough for long enough to justify any changes in module recipes or anything else. It is undeniable that there are too many miners. When more players change their gaming behavior and choose to mission or some other type of income, then prices will rise. Otherwise, miners will simply fall to and remain at the bottom of the economic strata.
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Droxlyn
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.07.27 01:55:00 -
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Remember, every 3 months or so, the Insurance payout resets to a new value based off of some price history of the minerals. So even if the prices fall to a new Insurance Exchange rate, it won't last long and the falling mineral prices will resume.
Ultimately, the price floor is 0.01 per unit of mineral.
Drox
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Ari Chu
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Posted - 2010.07.27 02:21:00 -
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Make changes so that Bots have a helluva time mining. Might not make the OP happy - but it would likely increase mineral prices.
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Urich VonWolfenstein
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Posted - 2010.07.27 03:23:00 -
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The miners are just being to greedy. ffs u round the market and now ur crying. There is now way to fix this now. If ur finding that u no longer can make any cash, use the resorses u mine to make ships. And not jsut BS coz there to expencive for people, drakes canes and myrm. these are some of the most frequently lost ships in pvp and demand is always high. Face it its gona take months or years to recover the ore market and ur beter off investing your time in2 something profitable while u can
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Jonna Bluemoon
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Posted - 2010.07.27 04:54:00 -
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Originally by: Travesty T
because i have to buy plex to be able to play
Get a job?
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