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Esiel
Renegade Serenity
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Posted - 2010.08.02 02:34:00 -
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Originally by: Jack Airron
to all other comments, you are still not taking into account that any race that can explore the galaxy, has FTL travel and FTL communications has means of Extreme power generation Must have unimaginable ways to wage war. and with the eve galaxy the 4 races are so close to each other of corce they would put their main focus into producing advanced weapons.
people dont seem the grasp the fact of them being 8000 years more advanced then us. Look back 100 years and then tell me that technological advancement doesn't happen on a exponential scale.
With the comment to the face that modern firearms still use the same basic principle as they did hundreds of years ago, its only been hundreds of years not 8000 like eve and we still use such weapons because they are effective to our targets IE people not giant flying city's.
Take a better look at history - from the start of recorded history to around 1000A.D. technology was almost at a stand still. Somewhere people invented the wheel, swords, bows and arrows, and boats and then nothing changed for millenniums. They invented new materials (stone to bronze to iron...) but the weapons stayed fairly similar, the transportation basically was still all horse. Then suddenly things started to change, it was slow at first and then exponential so if you take a small portion of our history (only 100 years) ya everything changes greatly .
But who's to say that we won't plateau or something. Since the invention of the cartridge guns have basically been about the same for the last 100 years. We have longer ranges, faster shooters but they all follow the same principle. Where are the rail guns, laser, flying cars, all the stuff we should have that we have been dreaming of for the last 100 years. It seems we have hit a wall. I have no problem with the tech they have for us in the game.
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Nardman
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Posted - 2010.08.02 02:46:00 -
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Since when is anything in EvE realistic? THIS IS DOMINION! |
Drakkan Koran
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Posted - 2010.08.02 02:50:00 -
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Originally by: plastastic If i remember right the back story explains this away by saying the guns they let you use are the civilian versions of the guns the ones used by the real navy's are alot bigger.
This.
All those weapons the OP thinks he should be able to play with belong to CONCORD.
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Ghaylenty
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Posted - 2010.08.02 03:35:00 -
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hell, lets get rid of the idea of guns, theyre primitive in their own right. its far more likely that this far in the future our brains will have evolved to allow manipulation of matter through force of will. im sure by this time pyrokinesis will be a popular method of destruction.
i can see it now...
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stoicfaux
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Posted - 2010.08.02 03:43:00 -
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Originally by: plastastic If i remember right the back story explains this away by saying the guns they let you use are the civilian versions of the guns the ones used by the real navy's are alot bigger.
So what would the a real navy titan's doomsday weapon be capable of? And should all that Caldari Navy equipment be renamed to Caldari Navy Civilian equipment?
When it comes to basic ship and weapon technology, the back stories fail often.
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Halcyon Ingenium
Caldari Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
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Posted - 2010.08.02 03:49:00 -
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Originally by: Karak Terrel
Originally by: Halcyon Ingenium Much like evolution, technology has no set direction or timescale.
But evolution and technology both have exponential growth which is also called the law of accelerating returns. We are only a few decades away from really drastic changes. I don't know how long this is in the discussion now, but if you think about it, it really destroys most of the science fiction scenarios we have today.
In my perception Eve is a combination of "todays humanity" with advanced technology but without some of the consequences of the technology. Fantasy games do the same thing all the time but back in time. They take "todays humanity" and build some fancy magic creatures around it. I think a game that reflects the reality for both genres, science fiction and fantasy would be really absurd.
- Only batteries can prevent the singularity
Actually, no they don't. Evolution is a response which, because it is based on the chemistry of a molecule, will reach equilibrium until that state is disturbed. And nothing special is happening in 2012 either, get over it.
Originally by: Dr Reinhold Eve is the endgame. Every other game you have played has just been preparation for this.
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Boris Varshavsky
Caldari New Eden Regimental Navy
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Posted - 2010.08.02 04:01:00 -
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It took humans 1891 years FROM today just to invent WARP TECHNOLOGY; fitting that technology to ships took another 533 years. That is an insane amount of time. AND this was during the first time around. After the EVE gate collapse, the Jovians passed that technology onto the other four races. Also, don't forget that tritanium, the main mineral in all ships in EVE, reacts explosively to Earth's atmosphere. Therefore, applying any of Earth's reactive properties that we humans have so far discovered is useless, such as "antimatter" being completely devastating to anything that it touches, is irrational without any dev fact stated.
TLDR It's a scifi game, and you are taking it too far with the "scifi" part.
Inb4 rage
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stoicfaux
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Posted - 2010.08.02 04:25:00 -
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Originally by: Boris Varshavsky
TLDR It's a scifi game, and you are taking it too far with the "scifi" part.
Meh. Normally science fiction at least tries to be somewhat "realistic" or at least internally consistent with its physics. Eve ship and weapons tech reminds me too much of scifi buzzword bingo, i.e. they just sprinkle scifi words around instead of using a bit of logic to avoid huge gaping holes in their descriptions. Suspension of disbelief does have limits.
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Lemmy Kravitz
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Posted - 2010.08.02 06:08:00 -
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Originally by: Jack Airron Edited by: Jack Airron on 01/08/2010 09:32:37
Originally by: Estel Arador I guess you missed the memo telling you all civilisation collapsed for thousands of years...
Yes, however taking into account he time of eves "dark age" they should still be 8000 years more advanced then us, for example today we have the technology to build a laser that outputs 1000 TW, a mega pulse laser in eve outputs 350ish GIGAwatts its absurd.
not to mention drone bandwidth in the megabits range.
Far more important things to worry about in this game, rather than sitting here and crying that you want more 0's added to the end of a description cause it is not uber enough.
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Frozean
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Posted - 2010.08.02 06:19:00 -
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Why does the technologically advanced eve world has no +0.01 isk machine for automated trades?
Why does the technologically advanced eve world has no automatic veldspar mining technology?
Why does the technologically advanced eve world has windows on their ships?
Why does the technologically advanced eve world still drink dairy products in boxes?
Why does the technologically advanced eve world still uses canned food?
Why does the technologically advanced eve world still needs to "train skills?"
Why does the technologically advanced eve world cannot warp infinitely without stopping (thus avoiding CONCORDE)
Why does the technologically advanced eve world...
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Kashre
Minmatar Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2010.08.02 07:03:00 -
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Originally by: stoicfaux
Originally by: Boris Varshavsky
TLDR It's a scifi game, and you are taking it too far with the "scifi" part.
Meh. Normally science fiction at least tries to be somewhat "realistic" or at least internally consistent with its physics. Eve ship and weapons tech reminds me too much of scifi buzzword bingo, i.e. they just sprinkle scifi words around instead of using a bit of logic to avoid huge gaping holes in their descriptions. Suspension of disbelief does have limits.
Unless you're talking about Star Wars, visual based Sci-fi (as in shows, movies, etc) don't even pretend to try to stay internally consistent with their physics. Haven't you ever watched star trek?
In the end, all that maters is that the game is balance and we have spaceships. :P Don't get too carried away here. +++ "Etiquette is for the Dojo. In war there is only victory or death." - Eiji Yoshikawa |
Karak Terrel
As Far As The eYe can see Chained Reactions
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Posted - 2010.08.02 11:35:00 -
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Originally by: Halcyon Ingenium Actually, no they don't. Evolution is a response which, because it is based on the chemistry of a molecule, will reach equilibrium until that state is disturbed.
Evolution is a response? Will reach equilibrium? Where do you get that nonsense from? Hint: Earth is not a closed system, we get constant energy supply from the sun.
Originally by: Halcyon Ingenium And nothing special is happening in 2012 either, get over it.
At least one thing you got right. -- please consider to visit our w-space system, cake will be served immediately. |
Halcyon Ingenium
Caldari Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
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Posted - 2010.08.02 12:55:00 -
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Edited by: Halcyon Ingenium on 02/08/2010 12:56:47
Originally by: Karak Terrel Evolution is a response? Will reach equilibrium? Where do you get that nonsense from?
Textbooks.
Originally by: Karak Terrel Hint: Earth is not a closed system, we get constant energy supply from the sun.
This is so full of fail its hard to even address without insults.
Originally by: Karak Terrel
But evolution and technology both have exponential growth
Your confusing the meaning of "growth". In the former quote you speak of growth as dependent on energy, like a plant grows. How the **** is exponential growth fueled by a constant supply of energy? Not to mention your confusing two different meanings of the word growth.
In the latter quote what you seem to mean by growth is the increased rate of iterations that display increased complexity, which has no relation to the amount of energy we get from the sun directly. Solar energy does influence evolution in the form of mutations due to genetic damage from radiation, but as you already pointed out, the supply of radiation from the sun is constant, and therefore the mutation rate at any given latitude will be pretty much constant across that latitude, and on average constant for the planet. But the way you relate solar energy to the process of descent through modification and natural selection is just stupid.
Do you understand what evolution is, how it works, and that it is a response to environment and not a process that need necessarily move ever forward? Or do you think the prevailing myth in modern culture, that of evolution having a teleological outcome, is true? And that by comparison technology, because it iterates with increasing complexity as well, must also have a teleological outcome? If you want to actually learn about evolution, a good place for the layman would be R. Dawkins The Selfish Gene, followed up by The Extended Phenotype. A basic understanding of chemistry would help as well, specifically organic and biochemistry. Until then, please stop confusing enthusiasm for science fiction as a substitute for an education in science.
Originally by: Dr Reinhold Eve is the endgame. Every other game you have played has just been preparation for this.
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Karak Terrel
As Far As The eYe can see Chained Reactions
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Posted - 2010.08.02 15:18:00 -
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Originally by: Halcyon Ingenium
BLUB
I was obviously juts talking about growth in complexity but not everyone got it. So it is nice for you that you know how the biochemistry works but i was not talking about biochemistry i was talking about information technology and how the increase of complexity accelerates itself. What is the principal of evolution? Natural selection of random mutations. Has that for itself something to do with biochemistry? Of course not! This is a general principal and it is INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY! So if you want to understand evolution and increased complexity, read a book of Kurzweil or Wolfram. If you want to learn something about our ancestors, the diversity of life and how biochemistry works, read Dawkins or something.
Evolution is bigger that just biochemistry and Dawkins knows that too (Mem). So please try to get the full picture before you try to talk to grownups next time. Thx -- please consider to visit our w-space system, cake will be served immediately. |
Jack Airron
Gallente Wrecking Shots -Mostly Harmless-
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Posted - 2010.08.02 20:02:00 -
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Quote: A Rokh can hit instantly out to 250km. I don't think the round would have time to burn up before hitting the ground. Or maybe you can reduce the power on the guns to avoid burning up the round in the atmosphere.
/facepalm
What causes burn up is not some kind of imaginary layer of heat that takes time to melt objects its the friction of a object passing trough the partials in our atmosphere at high rates of speed it wouldn't mater how much time it takes it would burn up with out a heat shield.
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stoicfaux
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Posted - 2010.08.02 20:19:00 -
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Originally by: Jack Airron
Quote: A Rokh can hit instantly out to 250km. I don't think the round would have time to burn up before hitting the ground. Or maybe you can reduce the power on the guns to avoid burning up the round in the atmosphere.
/facepalm
What causes burn up is not some kind of imaginary layer of heat that takes time to melt objects its the friction of a object passing trough the partials in our atmosphere at high rates of speed it wouldn't mater how much time it takes it would burn up with out a heat shield.
Yes, yes. Normally I would agree. But, materials science in Eve is pretty wonky. Plus if the round does burn up, it takes time for the gases/plasma to expand. Given the insanely/extremely high velocity of railgun rounds in Eve, can the round of now expanding gas/plasma hit the ground before it expands into nothingness? I'm thinking shockwave damage.
Plus, there's a PI related chronicle where a capsuleer describes what would happen if he fired his railgun's antimatter rounds at a planet's surface.
----- "Are you a sociopathic paranoid schizophrenic with accounting skills? We have the game for you! -- Eve, the game of Alts, Economics, Machiavelli, and PvP"
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Ehranavaar
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Posted - 2010.08.02 21:12:00 -
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Originally by: Mashie Saldana
Originally by: Jack Airron Do eve weapons seem kind of primitive in scifi terms?
Not really, we can launch small cars at 250km/s.
i talk to a chap on the net who designs arty pieces for a living. latest project was the M777. now i've always thought using projectiles in space combat was dopey for various reasons. i'm not exactly a techy expert in that field so i asked my net buddy if he'd care to estimate the size of a proj gun based on some of the apparent numbers from eve. his best guess making some really nice extrapolations to allow for better tech in building the gun was that it would be a bit over 100 000 tonnes. this is actually quite close to the size of a battleship that in eve carries 7 or 8 of these monster guns. realism is entirely shot and reasonable is just hanging on by it's fingertips in eve.
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Jack Airron
Gallente Wrecking Shots -Mostly Harmless-
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Posted - 2010.08.02 21:13:00 -
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Originally by: stoicfaux
Originally by: Jack Airron
Quote: A Rokh can hit instantly out to 250km. I don't think the round would have time to burn up before hitting the ground. Or maybe you can reduce the power on the guns to avoid burning up the round in the atmosphere.
/facepalm
What causes burn up is not some kind of imaginary layer of heat that takes time to melt objects its the friction of a object passing trough the partials in our atmosphere at high rates of speed it wouldn't mater how much time it takes it would burn up with out a heat shield.
Yes, yes. Normally I would agree. But, materials science in Eve is pretty wonky. Plus if the round does burn up, it takes time for the gases/plasma to expand. Given the insanely/extremely high velocity of railgun rounds in Eve, can the round of now expanding gas/plasma hit the ground before it expands into nothingness? I'm thinking shockwave damage.
Plus, there's a PI related chronicle where a capsuleer describes what would happen if he fired his railgun's antimatter rounds at a planet's surface.
I dont know why i even bother with explaining things to you you will never understand.
If you fire a rail gun round from space at a a planet the round will burn up over 100 miles above the earths surface any anti matter will detonate above the planet with out causing any harm. now if the Battle ship was close enough to the planet say 2-3 miles above the surface he could do that amount of damage.
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Tei Lin
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Posted - 2010.08.02 23:37:00 -
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What about the maximum distance on missiles? Or the Maximum Velocity of ships given little to no resistance to cause a terminal velocity? Or the fact that ships catch on fire?
I stay awake at night cause the pixel spaceships don't make sense!!!!!!!
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Vaneshi SnowCrash
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Posted - 2010.08.03 04:38:00 -
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Originally by: Frozean Why does the technologically advanced eve world has no automatic veldspar mining technology?
Who's to say it doesn't? I mean all those NPC's had to be getting the minerals to make stuff from somewhere right?
Originally by: Frozean Why does the technologically advanced eve world has windows on their ships?
Because the human crew likes to look out of them when off duty. They're probably empty during battle with the airlocks secured and the atmosphere removed. They might even have armoured shutters over any that are near vital parts. You just don't see the shutters.
It's like you don't see the point defence system on your battleship firing like crazy... but you know it's there.
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Culmen
Caldari Blood Phage Syndicate Dead Terrorists
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Posted - 2010.08.03 05:39:00 -
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Edited by: Culmen on 03/08/2010 05:43:01 Edited by: Culmen on 03/08/2010 05:42:02
Originally by: Jack Airron
I dont know why i even bother with explaining things to you you will never understand.
If you fire a rail gun round from space at a a planet the round will burn up over 100 miles above the earths surface any anti matter will detonate above the planet with out causing any harm. now if the Battle ship was close enough to the planet say 2-3 miles above the surface he could do that amount of damage.
You my friend, are the one who fails to understand.
First a quick lesson about the earth's atmosphere
An object "100 miles"(~160km) above the earth is a decent way into the thermosphere, but most objects start burning up around 85km.
An object flying a mile or two above the earth is already below cruising altitude of some commercial aircraft, so there's going to be negligible atmosphere burn.
Finally, there's an online calculator designed for predicting the effects of meteor strikes. Courtesy of Imperial College (UK)
I plugged in the stats for a 1400mm cannon firing depleted uranium L. I assume a spherical ball of depleted uranium hitting sedimentary rock at 250km/s at a 90 degree angle. BTW depleted uranium has a density of 19,100 kg/m3.
Results are summarized as:
The shot hit the earth intact. It hits with the force of a small atomic bomb (~200 kilotons TNT equiv). It creates a hole in the ground about 440 meters in diameter.
The over pressure blast wave can down multi story buildings at a kilometer away and cause second degree burns at that distance. and further more why do i even need a sig? |
Tychus
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Posted - 2010.08.03 05:40:00 -
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Edited by: Tychus on 03/08/2010 05:41:12 OP: You sir, are likely correct. However. With the use of FTL kinetics, "grey goo" nano swarms, Von Neumann "berserkers", John Carpenter's "thing in a UPS box", antimatter, singularity projectors and "Dr. Devices", Eve lasted 3 and 1/2 minutes.
Enjoy your brief stay...
T
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Jack Airron
Gallente Wrecking Shots -Mostly Harmless-
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Posted - 2010.08.03 06:17:00 -
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Originally by: Culmen Edited by: Culmen on 03/08/2010 05:43:01 Edited by: Culmen on 03/08/2010 05:42:02
Originally by: Jack Airron
I dont know why i even bother with explaining things to you you will never understand.
If you fire a rail gun round from space at a a planet the round will burn up over 100 miles above the earths surface any anti matter will detonate above the planet with out causing any harm. now if the Battle ship was close enough to the planet say 2-3 miles above the surface he could do that amount of damage.
You my friend, are the one who fails to understand.
First a quick lesson about the earth's atmosphere
An object "100 miles"(~160km) above the earth is a decent way into the thermosphere, but most objects start burning up around 85km.
An object flying a mile or two above the earth is already below cruising altitude of some commercial aircraft, so there's going to be negligible atmosphere burn.
Finally, there's an online calculator designed for predicting the effects of meteor strikes. Courtesy of Imperial College (UK)
I plugged in the stats for a 1400mm cannon firing depleted uranium L. I assume a spherical ball of depleted uranium hitting sedimentary rock at 250km/s at a 90 degree angle. BTW depleted uranium has a density of 19,100 kg/m3.
Results are summarized as:
The shot hit the earth intact. It hits with the force of a small atomic bomb (~200 kilotons TNT equiv). It creates a hole in the ground about 440 meters in diameter.
The over pressure blast wave can down multi story buildings at a kilometer away and cause second degree burns at that distance.
Reread the ****ing post for the love of god your reading comprehension is in the gutter, I was the one that said if you fire at 2 miles above the surface of the planet it would impact and not burn IT WOULD IMPACT AND NOT BURN UP, Think you got it now buddy?
Im not talking about how much damage they do im talking about how primitive they are when compared with any other scfy TV show
now before you post culmen make sure you R-E-A-D the words and not just skim.
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Culmen
Caldari Blood Phage Syndicate Dead Terrorists
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Posted - 2010.08.03 06:25:00 -
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Originally by: Jack Airron
Reread the ****ing post for the love of god your reading comprehension is in the gutter, I was the one that said if you fire at 2 miles above the surface of the planet it would impact and not burn IT WOULD IMPACT AND NOT BURN UP, Think you got it now buddy?
Im not talking about how much damage they do im talking about how primitive they are when compared with any other scfy TV show
now before you post culmen make sure you R-E-A-D the words and not just skim.
Sigh
I was pointing out that a mile or two is laughably low altitude and thus pointless. You might as well have said a ship hovering two feet off the ground.
You are also still WAAAAAY wrong on the burn up altitude. Re-read the post for why.
And the point of half the thread is. Who needs high tech when you got a 16 nuke cannons on every ship.
Plus almost all other sci-fi weapons more advanced then eve seems to work on "magic", like star destroyers pulling stunts that show they are using energy density higher then anti matter, with no explination. and further more why do i even need a sig? |
Jack Airron
Gallente Wrecking Shots -Mostly Harmless-
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Posted - 2010.08.03 06:31:00 -
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Originally by: Culmen
Originally by: Jack Airron
Reread the ****ing post for the love of god your reading comprehension is in the gutter, I was the one that said if you fire at 2 miles above the surface of the planet it would impact and not burn IT WOULD IMPACT AND NOT BURN UP, Think you got it now buddy?
Im not talking about how much damage they do im talking about how primitive they are when compared with any other scfy TV show
now before you post culmen make sure you R-E-A-D the words and not just skim.
Sigh
I was pointing out that a mile or two is laughably low altitude and thus pointless. You might as well have said a ship hovering two feet off the ground.
You are also still WAAAAAY wrong on the burn up altitude. Re-read the post for why.
And the point of half the thread is. Who needs high tech when you got a 16 nuke cannons on every ship.
Plus almost all other sci-fi weapons more advanced then eve seems to work on "magic", like star destroyers pulling stunts that show they are using energy density higher then anti matter, with no explination.
You dont seem to understand what friction or acceleration of gravity is.
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Steaveus
The Scope
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Posted - 2010.08.03 07:46:00 -
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Edited by: Steaveus on 03/08/2010 07:52:43 double post
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Steaveus
The Scope
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Posted - 2010.08.03 07:52:00 -
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Edited by: Steaveus on 03/08/2010 07:54:04
Originally by: Jack Airron You dont seem to understand what friction or acceleration of gravity is.
But you are still not geting what the post is about so ill spellit out for you
IT.....IS....ABOUT.....HOW....PRIMITIVE.......EVE........IS........ WHEN..............COMPARED............... TO........... OTHER..................SCIFI.
saying "blah blah who needs 16 nukes BLAH BLAH" is stupid when other scify series can annihilate a planet with one shot from a super-space gun.
First: I think you mean acceleration due to gravity, not "of"
Second: Your responses so far have been nothing short of, "I'm right you're wrong and that you dont agree with me makes you a terrible person" This wouldn't be so bad, except you're wrong.
Third: That petawatt laser you mention has a pulse time of 10^-9 seconds. If we take the eve laser animation as an accurate depiction of their pulse time, I'm pretty sure any sane person would concede that they are releasing an ungodly amount of energy.
Fourth: Antimatter, do I really even need to argue this? Do you know what antimatter even is and what happens when it comes in contact with matter? Or what about how this complicates firing it through a canon MADE OF MATTER
Fifth: Ships bounce off each other due to shields maybe?
Sixth: Internet pixel space ships game
Anything else?
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Bagrista
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Posted - 2010.08.03 09:25:00 -
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Originally by: Drakkan Koran
Originally by: plastastic If i remember right the back story explains this away by saying the guns they let you use are the civilian versions of the guns the ones used by the real navy's are alot bigger.
This.
All those weapons the OP thinks he should be able to play with belong to CONCORD.
So, wait. My Caldari Navy Cruises are civilian?
And what is the civilian gatling autocannon and other rookie weapons? Children's toys? This is my annoying sig. There are many like it, but this one is mine. |
Jack Airron
Gallente Wrecking Shots -Mostly Harmless-
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Posted - 2010.08.03 11:15:00 -
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Originally by: Steaveus Edited by: Steaveus on 03/08/2010 07:54:04
Originally by: Jack Airron You dont seem to understand what friction or acceleration of gravity is.
But you are still not geting what the post is about so ill spellit out for you
IT.....IS....ABOUT.....HOW....PRIMITIVE.......EVE........IS........ WHEN..............COMPARED............... TO........... OTHER..................SCIFI.
saying "blah blah who needs 16 nukes BLAH BLAH" is stupid when other scify series can annihilate a planet with one shot from a super-space gun.
First: I think you mean acceleration due to gravity, not "of"
Second: Your responses so far have been nothing short of, "I'm right you're wrong and that you dont agree with me makes you a terrible person" This wouldn't be so bad, except you're wrong.
Third: That petawatt laser you mention has a pulse time of 10^-9 seconds. If we take the eve laser animation as an accurate depiction of their pulse time, I'm pretty sure any sane person would concede that they are releasing an ungodly amount of energy.
Fourth: Antimatter, do I really even need to argue this? Do you know what antimatter even is and what happens when it comes in contact with matter? Or what about how this complicates firing it through a canon MADE OF MATTER
Fifth: Ships bounce off each other due to shields maybe?
Sixth: Internet pixel space ships game
Anything else?
First its acceleration of gravity it can be called the second one but doing so is just silly seeing how its officially acceleration of gravity.
Second, get your facts right first before you condescend others.
Forth . When Anti matter comes into contact with matter protons and anti protons Thus releasing a massive amount of energy If the Races in EVE can design shields they can design a containment vessel that will survive being accelerated by the Railgun.
Third Petawatts is 9^15th power giga watts is 9^9th Is it more powerful SURE but should a race that has explored and colonized the milky way galaxy be able to fire Petawatt lasers instead of gigawatt lasers? tank about it and come back to me.
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Apocrit Vespulus
Moderate Inconvenience
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Posted - 2010.08.03 11:33:00 -
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It's because Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
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