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Grim Vandal	Posted - 2004.12.21 14:57:00 - [1] Edited by: Grim Vandal on 21/12/2004 14:58:29 I cant belive my eyes... ITS OMFG unbeliveable.. uhm k... each artillery gun has been boosted with +15% dmg mod... thats it... so instead of 5x dmg mod for 1400mm it has 5,75 dmg mod now... i cant remember the old dmg mod of the 1200mm but that gun but it has a dmg mod of 4x now! also applies to the medium and small artillery guns... ammo stayed the same... as well as autocannons... Please mind the lay-out..... t20 doesn't have a strong heart. - Kindathey Greetings Grim
Grim Vandal	Posted - 2004.12.21 14:57:00 - [2] Edited by: Grim Vandal on 21/12/2004 14:58:29 I cant belive my eyes... ITS OMFG unbeliveable.. uhm k... each artillery gun has been boosted with +15% dmg mod... thats it... so instead of 5x dmg mod for 1400mm it has 5,75 dmg mod now... i cant remember the old dmg mod of the 1200mm but that gun but it has a dmg mod of 4x now! also applies to the medium and small artillery guns... ammo stayed the same... as well as autocannons... Please mind the lay-out..... t20 doesn't have a strong heart. - Kindathey Greetings Grim
Bad'Boy	Posted - 2004.12.21 14:59:00 - [3] Edited by: Bad'Boy on 21/12/2004 14:59:39 wow what about autocannons? B.A.D.B.O.Y.: Biomechanical Android Designed for Battle and Online Yelling "Bad Boys,Bad Boys, what you gonna do, what you gonna do when WE come for yoU"
Bad'Boy	Posted - 2004.12.21 14:59:00 - [4] Edited by: Bad'Boy on 21/12/2004 14:59:39 wow what about autocannons? B.A.D.B.O.Y.: Biomechanical Android Designed for Battle and Online Yelling "Bad Boys,Bad Boys, what you gonna do, what you gonna do when WE come for yoU"
Khaldorn Murino	Posted - 2004.12.21 15:01:00 - [5] They modified the tracking so it can acutally hit too? :) - "Whenever I hear any one arguing for slavery I feel a strong impulse to see it tried on him personally." - Unknown Warrior
Khaldorn Murino	Posted - 2004.12.21 15:01:00 - [6] They modified the tracking so it can acutally hit too? :) - "Whenever I hear any one arguing for slavery I feel a strong impulse to see it tried on him personally." - Unknown Warrior
Kcel Chim	Posted - 2004.12.21 15:06:00 - [7] arties need tracking, so they can hit not higher damage if you hit. A damagemod of 40000000000 wouldnt make a difference if you never hit. Autocannons instead need the dmg love. They are peashooters atm.
Kcel Chim	Posted - 2004.12.21 15:06:00 - [8] arties need tracking, so they can hit not higher damage if you hit. A damagemod of 40000000000 wouldnt make a difference if you never hit. Autocannons instead need the dmg love. They are peashooters atm.
jukriamrr	Posted - 2004.12.21 15:12:00 - [9] Mmmmm maybe a little boost on projectile ammunition damage would be nice? After all, this is only a test server, heh? At least, let us TRY it.
jukriamrr	Posted - 2004.12.21 15:12:00 - [10] Mmmmm maybe a little boost on projectile ammunition damage would be nice? After all, this is only a test server, heh? At least, let us TRY it.
Siddy	Posted - 2004.12.21 15:26:00 - [11] Edited by: Siddy on 21/12/2004 15:27:40 w00000000000000000000000000000000t t2 guns with 15% will wreck havok... now i can spear 1 lowslot for trakking mod instead of gyro -------------------------------------------
Siddy	Posted - 2004.12.21 15:26:00 - [12] Edited by: Siddy on 21/12/2004 15:27:40 w00000000000000000000000000000000t t2 guns with 15% will wreck havok... now i can spear 1 lowslot for trakking mod instead of gyro -------------------------------------------
Nafri	Posted - 2004.12.21 15:30:00 - [13] hehe /emote pads her new tempest she bought while beeing absolutly drunk Wanna fly with me?
Nafri	Posted - 2004.12.21 15:30:00 - [14] hehe /emote pads her new tempest she bought while beeing absolutly drunk Wanna fly with me?
Maya Rkell	Posted - 2004.12.21 15:37:00 - [15] 15% more damage? Sweet. What about autocannon tho? "As far as I can tell, It doesn't matter who you are, If you can believe there's something worth fighting for " - Garbage, "Parade"
Maya Rkell	Posted - 2004.12.21 15:37:00 - [16] 15% more damage? Sweet. What about autocannon tho? "As far as I can tell, It doesn't matter who you are, If you can believe there's something worth fighting for " - Garbage, "Parade"
Rod Blaine	Posted - 2004.12.21 15:42:00 - [17] Edited by: Rod Blaine on 21/12/2004 15:42:58 Edited by: Rod Blaine on 21/12/2004 15:42:37 800's are perfectly fine as it is imo. Could use some more ammo capacity maybe/ Using em with great joy. And 1400's 15% ~! more damage ? Sounds like a bit much. Their damage is quite ok, they just have gotten a role asigned thats not really popular. But by all means test out anything you can come up with, just dont do overdo the love, we dont want to end up with crying apoc pilots or something. _______________________________________________ Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues.
Rod Blaine	Posted - 2004.12.21 15:42:00 - [18] Edited by: Rod Blaine on 21/12/2004 15:42:58 Edited by: Rod Blaine on 21/12/2004 15:42:37 800's are perfectly fine as it is imo. Could use some more ammo capacity maybe/ Using em with great joy. And 1400's 15% ~! more damage ? Sounds like a bit much. Their damage is quite ok, they just have gotten a role asigned thats not really popular. But by all means test out anything you can come up with, just dont do overdo the love, we dont want to end up with crying apoc pilots or something. _______________________________________________ Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues.
Nafri	Posted - 2004.12.21 15:43:00 - [19] Originally by: Rod Blaine Edited by: Rod Blaine on 21/12/2004 15:42:37 800's are perfectly fine as it is imo. Using em with great joy. And 1400's 15% ~! more damage ? Sounds like a bit much. Their damage is quite ok, they just have gotten a role asigned thats not really popular. But by all means test out anything you can come up with, just dont do overdo the love, we dont want to end up with crying apoc pilots or something. nah, geddons do still much more damage then tempest only long range megathrons will still be **** Wanna fly with me?**
Nafri	Posted - 2004.12.21 15:43:00 - [20] Originally by: Rod Blaine Edited by: Rod Blaine on 21/12/2004 15:42:37 800's are perfectly fine as it is imo. Using em with great joy. And 1400's 15% ~! more damage ? Sounds like a bit much. Their damage is quite ok, they just have gotten a role asigned thats not really popular. But by all means test out anything you can come up with, just dont do overdo the love, we dont want to end up with crying apoc pilots or something. nah, geddons do still much more damage then tempest only long range megathrons will still be **** Wanna fly with me?**
Siddy	Posted - 2004.12.21 15:44:00 - [21] Originally by: Rod Blaine Edited by: Rod Blaine on 21/12/2004 15:42:58 Edited by: Rod Blaine on 21/12/2004 15:42:37 800's are perfectly fine as it is imo. Could use some more ammo capacity maybe/ Using em with great joy. And 1400's 15% ~! more damage ? Sounds like a bit much. Their damage is quite ok, they just have gotten a role asigned thats not really popular. But by all means test out anything you can come up with, just dont do overdo the love, we dont want to end up with crying apoc pilots or something. dont worry, they still dont hit a **** -------------------------------------------
Siddy	Posted - 2004.12.21 15:44:00 - [22] Originally by: Rod Blaine Edited by: Rod Blaine on 21/12/2004 15:42:58 Edited by: Rod Blaine on 21/12/2004 15:42:37 800's are perfectly fine as it is imo. Could use some more ammo capacity maybe/ Using em with great joy. And 1400's 15% ~! more damage ? Sounds like a bit much. Their damage is quite ok, they just have gotten a role asigned thats not really popular. But by all means test out anything you can come up with, just dont do overdo the love, we dont want to end up with crying apoc pilots or something. dont worry, they still dont hit a **** -------------------------------------------
jukriamrr	Posted - 2004.12.21 15:45:00 - [23] Originally by: Nafri nah, geddons do still much more damage then tempest Don't you think that is strange? Strictly talking about balance, a tier 1 bs doing more damage than a tier 2 bs?
jukriamrr	Posted - 2004.12.21 15:45:00 - [24] Originally by: Nafri nah, geddons do still much more damage then tempest Don't you think that is strange? Strictly talking about balance, a tier 1 bs doing more damage than a tier 2 bs?
KompleX	Posted - 2004.12.21 15:50:00 - [25] Edited by: KompleX on 21/12/2004 15:56:36 Some stats about the autocannons tracking and modifier, I'l let someone else do arties: Tranquility/SISI: Dual 180MM autocannon: Tracking 0.11/0.132 Modifier: 1.25/1.25 425MM autocannon: Tracking 0.86/1.056 Modifier 1.75/1.75 220MM Vulcan: Tracking 0.96/1.175 Modifier 1.5/1.5 Dual 650MM: Tracking 0.04/0.48 Modifier 1.5/1.5 Dual 425MM: Tracking 0.045/0.054 Modifier 1.25/1.25 800MM Autocannon: Tracking 0.036/0.0432 Modifier: 1.75/1.75
KompleX	Posted - 2004.12.21 15:50:00 - [26] Edited by: KompleX on 21/12/2004 15:56:36 Some stats about the autocannons tracking and modifier, I'l let someone else do arties: Tranquility/SISI: Dual 180MM autocannon: Tracking 0.11/0.132 Modifier: 1.25/1.25 425MM autocannon: Tracking 0.86/1.056 Modifier 1.75/1.75 220MM Vulcan: Tracking 0.96/1.175 Modifier 1.5/1.5 Dual 650MM: Tracking 0.04/0.48 Modifier 1.5/1.5 Dual 425MM: Tracking 0.045/0.054 Modifier 1.25/1.25 800MM Autocannon: Tracking 0.036/0.0432 Modifier: 1.75/1.75
Nafri	Posted - 2004.12.21 15:50:00 - [27] Originally by: jukriamrr Originally by: Nafri nah, geddons do still much more damage then tempest Don't you think that is strange? Strictly talking about balance, a tier 1 bs doing more damage than a tier 2 bs? well, geddons are the best ship ingame for damage dealing never said that lasers are balanced at all Wanna fly with me?
Nafri	Posted - 2004.12.21 15:50:00 - [28] Originally by: jukriamrr Originally by: Nafri nah, geddons do still much more damage then tempest Don't you think that is strange? Strictly talking about balance, a tier 1 bs doing more damage than a tier 2 bs? well, geddons are the best ship ingame for damage dealing never said that lasers are balanced at all Wanna fly with me?
Nervar	Posted - 2004.12.21 15:57:00 - [29] Originally by: Grim Vandal Edited by: Grim Vandal on 21/12/2004 14:58:29 I cant belive my eyes... ITS OMFG unbeliveable.. uhm k... each artillery gun has been boosted with +15% dmg mod... thats it... so instead of 5x dmg mod for 1400mm it has 5,75 dmg mod now... i cant remember the old dmg mod of the 1200mm but that gun but it has a dmg mod of 4x now! also applies to the medium and small artillery guns... ammo stayed the same... as well as autocannons... Please mind the lay-out..... t20 doesn't have a strong heart. - Kindathey I want what your smoking... NOw last time i checked the stats on the projectiles i could swear that they where equal to what you said inn your post. So i double checked and voila.......... No stat changes betwen 800's 1400's 1200's on sisi.. -------------------------------------------------> What I look forward to is continued immaturity followed by death.
Nervar	Posted - 2004.12.21 15:57:00 - [30] Originally by: Grim Vandal Edited by: Grim Vandal on 21/12/2004 14:58:29 I cant belive my eyes... ITS OMFG unbeliveable.. uhm k... each artillery gun has been boosted with +15% dmg mod... thats it... so instead of 5x dmg mod for 1400mm it has 5,75 dmg mod now... i cant remember the old dmg mod of the 1200mm but that gun but it has a dmg mod of 4x now! also applies to the medium and small artillery guns... ammo stayed the same... as well as autocannons... Please mind the lay-out..... t20 doesn't have a strong heart. - Kindathey I want what your smoking... NOw last time i checked the stats on the projectiles i could swear that they where equal to what you said inn your post. So i double checked and voila.......... No stat changes betwen 800's 1400's 1200's on sisi.. -------------------------------------------------> What I look forward to is continued immaturity followed by death.
KompleX	Posted - 2004.12.21 15:59:00 - [31] Edited by: KompleX on 21/12/2004 16:00:35 Ok, now tracking changes for autos is a start! But hey, another +0.75 aint gonna make the 1400MM hit more, is it?
KompleX	Posted - 2004.12.21 15:59:00 - [32] Edited by: KompleX on 21/12/2004 16:00:35 Ok, now tracking changes for autos is a start! But hey, another +0.75 aint gonna make the 1400MM hit more, is it?
j0sephine	Posted - 2004.12.21 16:03:00 - [33] To be exact, this it the changes on test: "By the way, I just gave autocannons 20% better tracking, artilleries 15% more damage and optimal range and howitzers 15% more damage on the test server. Ya mon, let's see if this fixes projectiles."
j0sephine	Posted - 2004.12.21 16:03:00 - [34] To be exact, this it the changes on test: "By the way, I just gave autocannons 20% better tracking, artilleries 15% more damage and optimal range and howitzers 15% more damage on the test server. Ya mon, let's see if this fixes projectiles."
GFLTorque	Posted - 2004.12.21 16:05:00 - [35] Hammer's Post is here: Projektile Changes 4 out of 3 people have trouble with fractions
GFLTorque	Posted - 2004.12.21 16:05:00 - [36] Hammer's Post is here: Projektile Changes 4 out of 3 people have trouble with fractions
Siddy	Posted - 2004.12.21 16:11:00 - [37] now im going to ask - HOW hard was it to introduce thees changes... err 3 MONTHs earlier? -------------------------------------------
Siddy	Posted - 2004.12.21 16:11:00 - [38] now im going to ask - HOW hard was it to introduce thees changes... err 3 MONTHs earlier? -------------------------------------------
Nervar	Posted - 2004.12.21 16:15:00 - [39] K apears that using the main eve folder for testing on sisi isnt a good idea after all. The module stats from sisi somehow got carried over to TQ Hence the mixup inn the Turret stats -------------------------------------------------> What I look forward to is continued immaturity followed by death.
Nervar	Posted - 2004.12.21 16:15:00 - [40] K apears that using the main eve folder for testing on sisi isnt a good idea after all. The module stats from sisi somehow got carried over to TQ Hence the mixup inn the Turret stats -------------------------------------------------> What I look forward to is continued immaturity followed by death.
Selim	Posted - 2004.12.21 18:11:00 - [41] OMG
Selim	Posted - 2004.12.21 18:11:00 - [42] OMG
Gaiam	Posted - 2004.12.21 18:35:00 - [43] fix megapulse damage mod and things will be better. completely stupid they gave it beam mod in the first place, they should have fixed it the day after.
Gaiam	Posted - 2004.12.21 18:35:00 - [44] fix megapulse damage mod and things will be better. completely stupid they gave it beam mod in the first place, they should have fixed it the day after.
The Speaker	Posted - 2004.12.21 18:52:00 - [45] Last I checked this topic was about the projectile changes not a chance you to whine because you got pwned by some mega pulse.
The Speaker	Posted - 2004.12.21 18:52:00 - [46] Last I checked this topic was about the projectile changes not a chance you to whine because you got pwned by some mega pulse.
Nafri	Posted - 2004.12.21 19:13:00 - [47] Originally by: The Speaker Last I checked this topic was about the projectile changes not a chance you to whine because you got pwned by some mega pulse. mhh Alt? HIIIIIII!!! I LOVE YOU TOO nah, you cant balance a gun without looking at the other guns Wanna fly with me?
Nafri	Posted - 2004.12.21 19:13:00 - [48] Originally by: The Speaker Last I checked this topic was about the projectile changes not a chance you to whine because you got pwned by some mega pulse. mhh Alt? HIIIIIII!!! I LOVE YOU TOO nah, you cant balance a gun without looking at the other guns Wanna fly with me?
Iluyen	Posted - 2004.12.21 19:44:00 - [49] How clearer can CCP make it they have NO CLUE whatsoever about whats wrong with artillery guns? The problem is that there are whole ranges and ship classes artillery cannot hit at all, 15% additional damage in the instances it can hit fine is just gonna lead to more clueless people crying about how they where hit for 1xxx damage by a 1400, wich is what lead to the current problems to start with.
Iluyen	Posted - 2004.12.21 19:44:00 - [50] How clearer can CCP make it they have NO CLUE whatsoever about whats wrong with artillery guns? The problem is that there are whole ranges and ship classes artillery cannot hit at all, 15% additional damage in the instances it can hit fine is just gonna lead to more clueless people crying about how they where hit for 1xxx damage by a 1400, wich is what lead to the current problems to start with.
Gian Bal	Posted - 2004.12.21 20:07:00 - [51] hopefully CCP will now ignore that or people will see, that it is A NORMAL for a gun hitting only all 20 secs basically to do the highest dmges ingame, but lets see....
Gian Bal	Posted - 2004.12.21 20:07:00 - [52] hopefully CCP will now ignore that or people will see, that it is A NORMAL for a gun hitting only all 20 secs basically to do the highest dmges ingame, but lets see....
Magorath	Posted - 2004.12.21 20:18:00 - [53] I think all autocannons should get a ROF + ammo capacity increase even faster hail of fire from 4 autocannons would sound even cooler pluse it would bump the damage, and then the 15% on artilleries seems like an awesome thing
Magorath	Posted - 2004.12.21 20:18:00 - [54] I think all autocannons should get a ROF + ammo capacity increase even faster hail of fire from 4 autocannons would sound even cooler pluse it would bump the damage, and then the 15% on artilleries seems like an awesome thing
Nafri	Posted - 2004.12.21 20:20:00 - [55] Originally by: Gian Bal hopefully CCP will now ignore that or people will see, that it is A NORMAL for a gun hitting only all 20 secs basically to do the highest dmges ingame, but lets see.... you talking about megapulses or 1400er j/k nah lets see and take one step after another to get minmatar back on line Wanna fly with me?
Nafri	Posted - 2004.12.21 20:20:00 - [56] Originally by: Gian Bal hopefully CCP will now ignore that or people will see, that it is A NORMAL for a gun hitting only all 20 secs basically to do the highest dmges ingame, but lets see.... you talking about megapulses or 1400er j/k nah lets see and take one step after another to get minmatar back on line Wanna fly with me?
Erloas	Posted - 2004.12.21 20:30:00 - [57] well if they increased the tracking on a large artillery to the point where it could track and hit a frigate orbiting at 1k then it would just be crazy. what would be the point of autocannons then? artillery are good for long range, and long range only. if they increase the dmg then maybe you can kill stuff while it is still incoming, before it gets to the point you can no longer hit it. and use 1-2 autocannons to take out the small ships that get in close, which your artillery were never and should never be designed to hit with any consistancy.
Erloas	Posted - 2004.12.21 20:30:00 - [58] well if they increased the tracking on a large artillery to the point where it could track and hit a frigate orbiting at 1k then it would just be crazy. what would be the point of autocannons then? artillery are good for long range, and long range only. if they increase the dmg then maybe you can kill stuff while it is still incoming, before it gets to the point you can no longer hit it. and use 1-2 autocannons to take out the small ships that get in close, which your artillery were never and should never be designed to hit with any consistancy.
Deakgu	Posted - 2004.12.21 20:43:00 - [59] The changes are good, except for these guns: 1200mm and 1400mm medium and small have never been bad, and this puts em up to par with the hybrids/lasers imo the change should make large ac's a decend choice but for the large artilleries... what can I say... seigh common CCP! dmg is not the problem with arties!!!
Deakgu	Posted - 2004.12.21 20:43:00 - [60] The changes are good, except for these guns: 1200mm and 1400mm medium and small have never been bad, and this puts em up to par with the hybrids/lasers imo the change should make large ac's a decend choice but for the large artilleries... what can I say... seigh common CCP! dmg is not the problem with arties!!!
ProphetGuru	Posted - 2004.12.22 04:51:00 - [61] wow. Maybe I'll come back......... Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
ProphetGuru	Posted - 2004.12.22 04:51:00 - [62] wow. Maybe I'll come back......... Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.

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