Disclaimer: this is a drunk post.

The arms race. We've had one in recent history, the past (20th) century demonstrating the rapid and aggressive adaptability of technology. Technology is a funny beast. It grows faster and faster. An exponential level of advancement. Arguably this is a continuing effect.

World War I: Infantry waves, trench warfare, brutal artillery. Stalemate-breaker: Tanks.

World War II: Blitzkrieg warfare, tanks, aircraft and carriers. Stalemate-breaker: The atomic bomb.

You see what I'm getting at, don't you?

We've been using the same goddamn weapons since the alpha/beta, bar a few exceptions like doomsday weapons. But there has been no arms race. Sure, the ships gradually and laboriously slowly get better... when Eve started, we had T1... a few years later, T2... and a few years after that, T3...

But they're still using the same damn guns. The same old, stagnant weapons we started with. They may get a % bonus to damage or RoF that's greater than lower-class ships of the line, but they're still using... the same weapons.

No scientist in New Eden appears to be working on NEW WEAPONS.

Here's what I'd like to see:

The Amarr Empire, after decades of technological collaboration with the Caldari State, discovers a method of projecting a particle free vacuum-beam through which an anti-matter beam can be channeled without the risk of anti-matter encountering matter until it hits the target. These weapons produce intense blast and kinetic effects upon impact.

The Caldari, employing exotic particle research involved in the creation of Amarr tachyon beams, invent a new tachyon-shielded warhead that slips through space instantly and arrives on target the second it is fired.

The Gallente, who strategically prefer defense over attack, combine high-explosive knowledge from the Minmatar Republic with their own drones, to create deployable self-regenerating minefields filled with seeking bomb-drones that function like a warp-bubble that hurts.

The Minmatar, thanks to their close relations with the fading Jovian empire, have secured exotic particle warhead technology never before seen among the four empires. These warheads are often unreliable, but when they function correctly, are devastating; capable of converting an Apocalypse battleship into a burning ball of exotic particles with a few solid strikes.

And here's the most important bit: this shit shouldn't be fair. Every few months, there should be a new breakthrough. A new weapon, just invented, that gives one empire an edge over the others... just long enough for the next counter-weapon to be developed.

tl;dr: New ships are nice. We want new weapons too. ("Like" this post if you agree, or post insults if you don't.)

The arms race. We've had one in recent history,

I love this man....no homo.

Wonder if he got drunk in a Mississauga, Brampton, or downtown bar.

Wonder if he got drunk in a Mississauga, Brampton, or downtown bar.

Disclaimer: this is a drunk post.


The Amarr Empire, after decades of technological collaboration with the Caldari State, discovers a method of projecting a particle free vacuum-beam through which an anti-matter beam can be channeled without the risk of anti-matter encountering matter until it hits the target. These weapons produce intense blast and kinetic effects upon impact.

World War I: Infantry waves, trench warfare, brutal artillery. Stalemate-breaker: Tanks.

World War II: Blitzkrieg warfare, tanks, aircraft and carriers. Stalemate-breaker: The atomic bomb.

You ever think about how beer evolves too slowly, while you are drinking?

the new line of missiles!

Em: chance to mess with targeting
Exp: chance to do armor damage through shields
Kin: chance to do structure damage through armor
Therm: chance to do heat damage to modules

Actually EVE has evolved quite fast, lot of new ships have been added yearly.

Disclaimer: this is a drunk post.

The arms race. We've had one in recent history, the past (20th) century demonstrating the rapid and aggressive adaptability of technology. Technology is a funny beast. It grows faster and faster. An exponential level of advancement. Arguably this is a continuing effect.

World War I: Infantry waves, trench warfare, brutal artillery. Stalemate-breaker: Tanks.

World War II: Blitzkrieg warfare, tanks, aircraft and carriers. Stalemate-breaker: The atomic bomb.

You see what I'm getting at, don't you?

We've been using the same goddamn weapons since the alpha/beta, bar a few exceptions like doomsday weapons. But there has been no arms race. Sure, the ships gradually and laboriously slowly get better... when Eve started, we had T1... a few years later, T2... and a few years after that, T3...

But they're still using the same damn guns. The same old, stagnant weapons we started with. They may get a % bonus to damage or RoF that's greater than lower-class ships of the line, but they're still using... the same weapons.

No scientist in New Eden appears to be working on NEW WEAPONS.

Here's what I'd like to see:

The Amarr Empire, after decades of technological collaboration with the Caldari State, discovers a method of projecting a particle free vacuum-beam through which an anti-matter beam can be channeled without the risk of anti-matter encountering matter until it hits the target. These weapons produce intense blast and kinetic effects upon impact.

The Caldari, employing exotic particle research involved in the creation of Amarr tachyon beams, invent a new tachyon-shielded warhead that slips through space instantly and arrives on target the second it is fired.

The Gallente, who strategically prefer defense over attack, combine high-explosive knowledge from the Minmatar Republic with their own drones, to create deployable self-regenerating minefields filled with seeking bomb-drones that function like a warp-bubble that hurts.

The Minmatar, thanks to their close relations with the fading Jovian empire, have secured exotic matter warhead technology never before seen among the four empires. These warheads are often unreliable, but when they function correctly, are devastating; capable of converting an Apocalypse battleship into a burning ball of exotic matter with a few solid strikes.

And here's the most important bit: this shit shouldn't be fair. Every few months, there should be a new breakthrough. A new weapon, just invented, that gives one empire an edge over the others... just long enough for the next counter-weapon to be developed.

tl;dr: New ships are nice. We want new weapons too. ("Like" this post if you agree, or post insults if you don't.)

Like 60% of the fun gone right there.

I, too, want to render 90% of Eve's ships and weapons obsolete and worthless. That sounds like a really good idea.

In short, superweapons have been done before. They got spammed and CCP was forced to nerf them. The same would happen with the OP's suggestion: FOTM fleets using whatever is the most powerful until CCP escalates to a new one or nerfs the existing one back into balance.

It is a BAD THING to create an environment where there is only one course to winning.

These are not superweapons. Nor am I suggesting they should be. They should merely be new options - roughly as effective as present weapons, but with new and never-before seen capabilities that force the community to adapt rapidly, rather than stagnate with the same tired old options we've had since day one.

capable of converting an Apocalypse battleship into a burning ball of exotic matter with a few solid strikes.

Look at the weapons we started Eve with. Beams, pulses. Arty, ACs. Rails, blasters. Missiles.

Look at the weapons we've gained since then. Bombs. Doomsday. Up-scaled capital versions of the same crap we had before. Sentry drones are somewhat new too, I guess. It's like no-one is trying to invent new methods of killing each other - highly unlikely for a game full of creative humans. Why haven't the Amarr, in the decade of arms development that came prior, not addressed their EM/TH dependence with an alternate weapon system that does explosive/kinetic? You'd think their scientists would have come up with a solution to this glaring tactical hole that didn't involve using Valkyries or a launcher with exp missiles, wouldn't you?

10 years...

In World War II, designs went from blueprint to build within a span of months, not years.

Disclaimer: this is a drunk post.

The arms race. We've had one in recent history, the past (20th) century demonstrating the rapid and aggressive adaptability of technology. Technology is a funny beast. It grows faster and faster. An exponential level of advancement. Arguably this is a continuing effect.

World War I: Infantry waves, trench warfare, brutal artillery. Stalemate-breaker: Tanks.

World War II: Blitzkrieg warfare, tanks, aircraft and carriers. Stalemate-breaker: The atomic bomb.

You see what I'm getting at, don't you?

We've been using the same goddamn weapons since the alpha/beta, bar a few exceptions like doomsday weapons. But there has been no arms race. Sure, the ships gradually and laboriously slowly get better... when Eve started, we had T1... a few years later, T2... and a few years after that, T3...

But they're still using the same damn guns. The same old, stagnant weapons we started with. They may get a % bonus to damage or RoF that's greater than lower-class ships of the line, but they're still using... the same weapons.

No scientist in New Eden appears to be working on NEW WEAPONS.

Here's what I'd like to see:

The Amarr Empire, after decades of technological collaboration with the Caldari State, discovers a method of projecting a particle free vacuum-beam through which an anti-matter beam can be channeled without the risk of anti-matter encountering matter until it hits the target. These weapons produce intense blast and kinetic effects upon impact.

The Caldari, employing exotic particle research involved in the creation of Amarr tachyon beams, invent a new tachyon-shielded warhead that slips through space instantly and arrives on target the second it is fired.

The Gallente, who strategically prefer defense over attack, combine high-explosive knowledge from the Minmatar Republic with their own drones, to create deployable self-regenerating minefields filled with seeking bomb-drones that function like a warp-bubble that hurts.

The Minmatar, thanks to their close relations with the fading Jovian empire, have secured exotic matter warhead technology never before seen among the four empires. These warheads are often unreliable, but when they function correctly, are devastating; capable of converting an Apocalypse battleship into a burning ball of exotic matter with a few solid strikes.

And here's the most important bit: this shit shouldn't be fair. Every few months, there should be a new breakthrough. A new weapon, just invented, that gives one empire an edge over the others... just long enough for the next counter-weapon to be developed.

tl;dr: New ships are nice. We want new weapons too. ("Like" this post if you agree, or post insults if you don't.)

Nobody was concerned about balance in WW2.

This is game, guys. It's supposed to be fun for everyone, not hand out overpowered weapons every few months that will ruin the game for all those not using them. I really wish people would stop trying to shoehorn real life into Eve.

So what you're saying is, "don't add anything new because I'm scared of having to adapt to something unpredictable." Gotcha.

Again, I'm not asking for superweapons. They were just examples of possible weapon designs, and for the Minmatar I wanted something unpredictable that could either fizzle, do damage no different to conventional warheads, or get lucky and blast away a huge chunk of a ship's HP in one hit.

Nobody was concerned about balance in WW2.

This is game, guys. It's supposed to be fun for everyone, not hand out overpowered weapons every few months that will ruin the game for all those not using them. I really wish people would stop trying to shoehorn real life into Eve.

The Caldari, employing exotic particle research involved in the creation of Amarr tachyon beams, invent a new tachyon-shielded warhead that slips through space instantly and arrives on target the second it is fired.

Nobody was concerned about balance in WW2.

Why do people always have a need to excuse their post "cuz i drunk" ?
Does it make you cool or something?

I want misles at move slowly but RR me while they fly

I want misles at move slowly but post memes on the forum while they fly

i want misles at move slowly but shoot lasers while they fly

i want misles

i

Technologies, at some point, do stabalize for extended periods of time.

How long was the bow and arrow used before we got a lead projectile propelled by expanding gases?
How long will we use this lead projectile until propelling another type of projectile by magnectic forces becomes common place?

The examples you shown from our recent history were complentments to existing technologies, not replacements.
They tech you suggest seem to be more of a replacement, than a complement to existing tech in Eve.

Edit: Improvements through innovation ( ie, balancing ) should happen far more often than the breakthroughs that seem to suggest a whole new weapon system.

I dont't think Eve would be served by this and it would only lead to more problem in balacning than we already have.

Disclaimer: this is a drunk post.

The arms race. We've had one in recent history, the past (20th) century demonstrating the rapid and aggressive adaptability of technology. Technology is a funny beast. It grows faster and faster. An exponential level of advancement. Arguably this is a continuing effect.

World War I: Infantry waves, trench warfare, brutal artillery. Stalemate-breaker: Tanks.

World War II: Blitzkrieg warfare, tanks, aircraft and carriers. Stalemate-breaker: The atomic bomb.

You see what I'm getting at, don't you?

We've been using the same goddamn weapons since the alpha/beta, bar a few exceptions like doomsday weapons. But there has been no arms race. Sure, the ships gradually and laboriously slowly get better... when Eve started, we had T1... a few years later, T2... and a few years after that, T3...

But they're still using the same damn guns. The same old, stagnant weapons we started with. They may get a % bonus to damage or RoF that's greater than lower-class ships of the line, but they're still using... the same weapons.

No scientist in New Eden appears to be working on NEW WEAPONS.

Here's what I'd like to see:

The Amarr Empire, after decades of technological collaboration with the Caldari State, discovers a method of projecting a particle free vacuum-beam through which an anti-matter beam can be channeled without the risk of anti-matter encountering matter until it hits the target. These weapons produce intense blast and kinetic effects upon impact.

The Caldari, employing exotic particle research involved in the creation of Amarr tachyon beams, invent a new tachyon-shielded warhead that slips through space instantly and arrives on target the second it is fired.

The Gallente, who strategically prefer defense over attack, combine high-explosive knowledge from the Minmatar Republic with their own drones, to create deployable self-regenerating minefields filled with seeking bomb-drones that function like a warp-bubble that hurts.

The Minmatar, thanks to their close relations with the fading Jovian empire, have secured exotic matter warhead technology never before seen among the four empires. These warheads are often unreliable, but when they function correctly, are devastating; capable of converting an Apocalypse battleship into a burning ball of exotic matter with a few solid strikes.

And here's the most important bit: this shit shouldn't be fair. Every few months, there should be a new breakthrough. A new weapon, just invented, that gives one empire an edge over the others... just long enough for the next counter-weapon to be developed.

tl;dr: New ships are nice. We want new weapons too. ("Like" this post if you agree, or post insults if you don't.)

And here's the most important bit: this shit shouldn't be fair. Every few months, there should be a new breakthrough. A new weapon, just invented, that gives one empire an edge over the others... just long enough for the next counter-weapon to be developed.

moar KA-BOOM ftw!

this stuff really annoyed my friend years back. the four races don't meet up and decide that their missiles do too much damage so lets reduce that, no they should develop counters! maybe not quite as powerful or frequently as you suggest, but new stuff is fun! I think the inferno mods are some great additions!

the new line of missiles!
Em: chance to mess with targeting
Exp: chance to do armor damage through shields
Kin: chance to do structure damage through armor
Therm: chance to do heat damage to modules

I was doing a quest earlier and it said that an asteroid had hit one of the stations and killed a lot of people. I thought to myself, how could a civilization such as this not stop an asteroid from hitting a station? Wat?

I was doing a quest earlier and it said that an asteroid had hit one of the stations and killed a lot of people. I thought to myself, how could a civilization such as this not stop an asteroid from hitting a station? Wat?

Its been ten years (almost).

We have had several new ships, several new classes of ships, new tank mods, some new weapons.


What, do you expect us to go from Civil War to WWII in a few weeks?

TACTICAL TRACTOR BEAMS. I love this idea.

10 years...

In World War II, designs went from blueprint to build within a span of months, not years.

Disclaimer: this is a drunk post.

The arms race. We've had one in recent history, the past (20th) century demonstrating the rapid and aggressive adaptability of technology. Technology is a funny beast. It grows faster and faster. An exponential level of advancement. Arguably this is a continuing effect.

World War I: Infantry waves, trench warfare, brutal artillery. Stalemate-breaker: Tanks.

World War II: Blitzkrieg warfare, tanks, aircraft and carriers. Stalemate-breaker: The atomic bomb.

You see what I'm getting at, don't you?

We've been using the same goddamn weapons since the alpha/beta, bar a few exceptions like doomsday weapons. But there has been no arms race. Sure, the ships gradually and laboriously slowly get better... when Eve started, we had T1... a few years later, T2... and a few years after that, T3...

But they're still using the same damn guns. The same old, stagnant weapons we started with. They may get a % bonus to damage or RoF that's greater than lower-class ships of the line, but they're still using... the same weapons.

No scientist in New Eden appears to be working on NEW WEAPONS.

Here's what I'd like to see:

The Amarr Empire, after decades of technological collaboration with the Caldari State, discovers a method of projecting a particle free vacuum-beam through which an anti-matter beam can be channeled without the risk of anti-matter encountering matter until it hits the target. These weapons produce intense blast and kinetic effects upon impact.

The Caldari, employing exotic particle research involved in the creation of Amarr tachyon beams, invent a new tachyon-shielded warhead that slips through space instantly and arrives on target the second it is fired.

The Gallente, who strategically prefer defense over attack, combine high-explosive knowledge from the Minmatar Republic with their own drones, to create deployable self-regenerating minefields filled with seeking bomb-drones that function like a warp-bubble that hurts.

The Minmatar, thanks to their close relations with the fading Jovian empire, have secured exotic matter warhead technology never before seen among the four empires. These warheads are often unreliable, but when they function correctly, are devastating; capable of converting an Apocalypse battleship into a burning ball of exotic matter with a few solid strikes.

And here's the most important bit: this shit shouldn't be fair. Every few months, there should be a new breakthrough. A new weapon, just invented, that gives one empire an edge over the others... just long enough for the next counter-weapon to be developed.

tl;dr: New ships are nice. We want new weapons too. ("Like" this post if you agree, or post insults if you don't.)

Adhesive charge launchers

A weapon system launching a charged warhead that, once delivered, will attach itself to its target and apply damage over time until it burns itself out.

Mediocre DPS compared to conventional weaponry, but it will continue to deliver its payload for the entire duration, even if the attacker or the target warps off, or the attacker is destroyed.

E-war payloads of various kinds are of course a possibility too.

10 years...

In World War II, designs went from blueprint to build within a span of months, not years.

World War I: Infantry waves, trench warfare, brutal artillery. Stalemate-breaker: Tanks.

World War II: Blitzkrieg warfare, tanks, aircraft and carriers. Stalemate-breaker: The atomic bomb.

You see what I'm getting at, don't you?