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Denidil
Gallente
Rape Pillage and Burn
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Posted - 2010.08.05 23:44:00 -
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Fairly self explanatory. Cruiser rats in 0.5 and 0.6, with appropriate bounties, loot, etc. Just to add a little more flavor/difficulty to high sec rats.
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Slimy Worm
Cyan Wolf
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Posted - 2010.08.06 05:31:00 -
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Edited by: Slimy Worm on 06/08/2010 05:31:56
Supported. This is a stealth macromining nerf.
On a somewhat related note, the bounty value on NPC's should be dictated somewhat by the danger posed by other players, not solely by the danger posed by the NPC as now. In other words, the same rat in a highsec mission or belt should pay a lower bounty than the same rat in low or nullsec.
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Moka Combatir
Ethereal Skies
HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.08.06 08:36:00 -
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Supported, good idea. I agree with the point about macromining.
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Ori Blake
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Posted - 2010.08.06 15:00:00 -
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I can't support it because while it would deter macrominers, it would hurt legit miners a lot more. It also would be a stealth lowsec nerf as cruiser spawns are really the only reason to bother with many 0.4 and 0.3 areas: while battleships spawn, its mostly cruisers and frigs. Even with a lower bounty the safety in hisec areas would be a strong draw.
The only place I would support it would be in ice fields.
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Anna Lifera
Imperial Legion of Amarr
HAWK Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.06 15:37:00 -
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not to mention, the usual set of t2 medium drones that every exhumer has can easily kill the cruiser rats, so unless they're buffed up, it's not gonna work.
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Magnus Orin
United Systems Navy
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.08.06 17:00:00 -
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Absolutely supported.
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Denidil
Rape Pillage and Burn
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Posted - 2010.08.06 22:35:00 -
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 Originally by: Ori Blake
I can't support it because while it would deter macrominers, it would hurt legit miners a lot more. It also would be a stealth lowsec nerf as cruiser spawns are really the only reason to bother with many 0.4 and 0.3 areas: while battleships spawn, its mostly cruisers and frigs. Even with a lower bounty the safety in hisec areas would be a strong draw.
The only place I would support it would be in ice fields.
it's trivial to buff a hulk to be able to tank rats. now the t1 exhumers could need a slight buff
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Mr LaForge
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Posted - 2010.08.06 22:48:00 -
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Supported as I think there is a real need for this.
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Voddick
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Posted - 2010.08.06 23:12:00 -
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Great anti macro idea...at least the macro's will have to be fitted with T2 or faction gear to perma tank the rats, making them a nice gank target and not just for lols.
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Goose99
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Posted - 2010.08.06 23:18:00 -
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As for Macros, wouldn't they just move to 0.7 and up? Might as well extend it up to 1.0
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Ordavion
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Posted - 2010.08.06 23:37:00 -
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Edited by: Ordavion on 06/08/2010 23:39:32
Edit: I would say also put them into Ice Belts.
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Niyrah
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Posted - 2010.08.06 23:47:00 -
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I say put BS in low sec, cruisers in 0.5 - 0.8, and frigs in 0.9 - 1.0....also take the asteroids out of 0.9 - 10.0 and replace them with tiny tiny roids for the noob frig miners.
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Seamus Donohue
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Posted - 2010.08.07 22:26:00 -
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I support the original proposal on the condition that rats in 0.1-0.4 be much more profitable than rats in 0.5-0.6.
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Tu Ko
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Posted - 2010.08.07 23:14:00 -
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Edited by: Tu Ko on 07/08/2010 23:13:52
Originally by: Niyrah
I say put BS in low sec, cruisers in 0.5 - 0.8, and frigs in 0.9 - 1.0....also take the asteroids out of 0.9 - 10.0 and replace them with tiny tiny roids for the noob frig miners.
Quoted for Great Justice
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Sepheir Sepheron
Legion..
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Posted - 2010.08.07 23:55:00 -
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Originally by: Niyrah
I say put BS in low sec, cruisers in 0.5 - 0.8, and frigs in 0.9 - 1.0....also take the asteroids out of 0.9 - 10.0 and replace them with tiny tiny roids for the noob frig miners.
This, it would attract some needed attention to low sec space.
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Denidil
Gallente
Rape Pillage and Burn
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Posted - 2010.08.08 04:31:00 -
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Originally by: Tu Ko
Edited by: Tu Ko on 07/08/2010 23:13:52
Originally by: Niyrah
I say put BS in low sec, cruisers in 0.5 - 0.8, and frigs in 0.9 - 1.0....also take the asteroids out of 0.9 - 10.0 and replace them with tiny tiny roids for the noob frig miners.
Quoted for Great Justice
that's essentially in my other proposal
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Frecator Dementa
4 Inches Of PAIN
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Posted - 2010.08.09 15:59:00 -
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meh, why not
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Maxsim Goratiev
Imperial Tau Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.08.09 18:04:00 -
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you do realise that this would not hirt macroes in the slightest, as adding
>launch drones
mine
mine
mine
mine
Zzzzz
Mine some more
recall dornes warp
Is not very difficult. What they are gonna do, is cause trouble for t1 mining barges. So make them weak, you would have to tank a t1 mining, barge, but would not have tot tank a hulk to kill them.
They should be somehting like battleships in low-sec -not very common, but they happen.
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Icantseeanythinginthis
Hedion University
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Posted - 2010.08.09 18:09:00 -
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Edited by: Icantseeanythinginthis on 09/08/2010 18:09:18
Supported! |
Generals4
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Posted - 2010.08.09 23:21:00 -
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supported , might even make high sec rat hunting interesting for newbies (tho that might not be the point but still)
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Denidil
Gallente
Rape Pillage and Burn
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Posted - 2010.08.10 02:24:00 -
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Originally by: Generals4
supported , might even make high sec rat hunting interesting for newbies (tho that might not be the point but still)
that actually was my point.
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Julius Tera
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Posted - 2010.08.10 11:20:00 -
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nice idea
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Zilberfrid
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Posted - 2010.08.10 19:29:00 -
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You have my vote.
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Slimy Worm
Cyan Wolf
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Posted - 2010.08.11 09:19:00 -
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Originally by: Ori Blake
I can't support it because while it would deter macrominers, it would hurt legit miners a lot more. It also would be a stealth lowsec nerf as cruiser spawns are really the only reason to bother with many 0.4 and 0.3 areas: while battleships spawn, its mostly cruisers and frigs. Even with a lower bounty the safety in hisec areas would be a strong draw.
The only place I would support it would be in ice fields.
Highsec missions are already a big enough nerf to lowsec, given that you can talk to an NPC and he'll spawn a 1.1 mil rat with LP and CONCORD protection. The change from this will be irrelevant, especially if CCP ties risk to PvP to the bounty reward (so a rat in highsec, regardless of difficulty, will pay less than the same rat in low or nullsec).
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Ere Colliseru
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Posted - 2010.08.11 15:26:00 -
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I am all for some cruiser rats in 0.5 or 0.6. But as high sec mining has already seen quite some nerfs it should be only one cruiser in 0.6 and two in 0.5. A single hulk must still be able to tank it when actively playing with drones or kill them in time before the own tank goes boom. Otherwise you would nerf single players who are in a npc corp.
Special spawns like dark blood etc can be even in a BC or a BS. Of course the reward is not as high in low sec but 50-75k for a cruiser could be ok.
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Ori Blake
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Posted - 2010.08.11 15:38:00 -
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Originally by: Ere Colliseru
I am all for some cruiser rats in 0.5 or 0.6. But as high sec mining has already seen quite some nerfs it should be only one cruiser in 0.6 and two in 0.5. A single hulk must still be able to tank it when actively playing with drones or kill them in time before the own tank goes boom. Otherwise you would nerf single players who are in a npc corp.
Special spawns like dark blood etc can be even in a BC or a BS. Of course the reward is not as high in low sec but 50-75k for a cruiser could be ok.
50-75k is what you get for cruisers in lowsec. You'd have to make it 25-37k, and even then you'd be increasing salvage drops from it.
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Ere Colliseru
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Posted - 2010.08.11 19:24:00 -
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Originally by: Ori Blake
Originally by: Ere Colliseru
I am all for some cruiser rats in 0.5 or 0.6. But as high sec mining has already seen quite some nerfs it should be only one cruiser in 0.6 and two in 0.5. A single hulk must still be able to tank it when actively playing with drones or kill them in time before the own tank goes boom. Otherwise you would nerf single players who are in a npc corp.
Special spawns like dark blood etc can be even in a BC or a BS. Of course the reward is not as high in low sec but 50-75k for a cruiser could be ok.
50-75k is what you get for cruisers in lowsec. You'd have to make it 25-37k, and even then you'd be increasing salvage drops from it.
Hmm but in lvl 4s in 0.5 you get 50-75k as well. Shouldnt this be consistent?
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Irae Ragwan
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Posted - 2010.08.11 19:28:00 -
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Edited by: Irae Ragwan on 11/08/2010 19:27:54
+1
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Yadomsa
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Posted - 2010.08.11 20:09:00 -
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+1 to OP and to:
Originally by: Niyrah
I say put BS in low sec, cruisers in 0.5 - 0.8, and frigs in 0.9 - 1.0....also take the asteroids out of 0.9 - 10.0 and replace them with tiny tiny roids for the noob frig miners.
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klyeme
Soft War
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2010.08.11 20:56:00 -
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It should be chance based, so there is a low chance of a battleship rat spawning in high sec (although very low)
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