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zz01shagsme
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Posted - 2010.08.06 10:41:00 -
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I might, Will need an xbox first as I am a PC player at heart.
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RaTTuS
BIG Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.08.06 10:41:00 -
[2]
NO --
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Giovanni DalleBandeNere
Two Brothers Mining Corp. R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2010.08.06 10:46:00 -
[3]
Originally by: RaTTuS NO
this
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Kangtar
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.08.06 10:49:00 -
[4]
I don't possess a console, no way I'm buying one just to play what is bound to be a very mediocre FPS on an inferior system.
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Zorlox
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Posted - 2010.08.06 10:49:00 -
[5]
Based upon my current level of respect for CCP and the way it's doing things...
NO
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RaTTuS
BIG Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.08.06 10:51:00 -
[6]
though I do have a bunch of work mates that do intend to .... --
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KOJIKI
Minmatar Big Shadows Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.06 10:52:00 -
[7]
now way in hell! The NEW M.Corp Data Hub - Check it out! |
Steintz
Gallente Magnificent Beavers The 0rphanage
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Posted - 2010.08.06 10:52:00 -
[8]
yes
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TheBlueMonkey
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2010.08.06 10:59:00 -
[9]
Originally by: RaTTuS NO
this
There are enough generic first person shooters out there with different skins on them so I might as well just play one I already own.
If I can totally flattern the entire battle field, and I mean TOTALLY flattern not "break till you fill the memory" ala red faction 1 or "only some things can be completely destroyed" ala bad company 2. Then maybe but still, splashing out on an xbox just to play dust... it's not like it's a new zelda game. --
Nothing is worthless, you may have gotten it for free but it still has an inherent value
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Bad Princess
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.08.06 11:02:00 -
[10]
I play on a PC, not on a console.
*IF* it is ever released on the platform I use, I may consider the idea.
If it remains strictly a console game, then no.
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Guilliman R
Gallente Northstar Cabal R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2010.08.06 11:02:00 -
[11]
Lol you're joking. If it works just as well as EVE it'll be the buggiest console game I ever know. I wouldn't touch it with a 50ft long pole.
Tell you what, since EVE players pay it's development cost, how about giving each EVE player a free copy? |
Kingston Black
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Posted - 2010.08.06 11:04:00 -
[12]
Well as i have an xbox linked to my main monitor and i play assassins's creed 2 while i wait for a fat little hauler to jump into my gate camp why not
P.S. i hope you can go smash peoples pi colonies and get tears with it if not it'll just be another FPS shooter, not like the xbox doesnt have hundreds already
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Dasola
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.08.06 11:07:00 -
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Edited by: Dasola on 06/08/2010 11:07:16 No, since i dont even own game console :P I have been computer player as long as computers has been arround. My first one was Commodore 16 .
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Ghoest
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Posted - 2010.08.06 11:09:00 -
[14]
My what a fresh and original thread.
Wherever you went - Here you are.
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Deva Blackfire
LOST IDEA C0VEN
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Posted - 2010.08.06 11:11:00 -
[15]
no
Battlefield 3, Killzone 3, Resistance 3 (probably) coming out next year. Add Crysis 2 for a good measure and there is no place for mediciore shooters :)
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Tressin Khiyne
Minmatar The Tuskers
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Posted - 2010.08.06 11:11:00 -
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Originally by: Ghoest My what a fresh and original thread.
What I love about it is the amount of amazing thoughts and information. --
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Akita T
Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2010.08.06 11:14:00 -
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Dust means console, I don't have and don't want a console of my own, so no Dust for me. Besides, I don't really like FPS in general, and console FPS even less so. (whoever claims console FPS gameplay is pretty much the same as PC FPS gameplay needs to go DIAF)
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Gareth Angel
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Posted - 2010.08.06 11:16:00 -
[18]
Edited by: Gareth Angel on 06/08/2010 11:16:48
Originally by: Deva Blackfire no
Battlefield 3, Killzone 3, Resistance 3 (probably) coming out next year. Add Crysis 2 for a good measure and there is no place for mediciore shooters :)
Crysis was pretty mediocre; Crysius 2 won't be revolutionary either. Actually, none of those games you mention will be revolutionary. And then I'd rather buy a comparable game within a new(ish) setting.
Yes, I'll buy Dust. But only after it gets decent reviews on at least 3 different game-sites, and in the magazines I tend to read. Because I actually am curious how those ships look, seen from the surface of a planet.
Edit: spelling.
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Jennifer Fenring
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.08.06 11:17:00 -
[19]
Erm no ..
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okst666
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Posted - 2010.08.06 11:19:00 -
[20]
YES
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Hemp Invader
EVERYTHING IS TERRIBLE Prime Orbital Systems
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Posted - 2010.08.06 11:19:00 -
[21]
let me think about this for a while.... ..... ..... 18 months later ..... ..... NO
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Ezeria Mistanta
Amarrian Atheist Remuneration Federation
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Posted - 2010.08.06 11:19:00 -
[22]
Consoles are for tools.
Enjoy tools.
Oh the answer is no btw.. if not previously obvious. ------------------
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Captain Corbulo
FinFleet IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.06 11:21:00 -
[23]
im not going to buy a console, so i can buy a game in a genre that works much better on a pc which i allready have to play eve. one machine just for a game is enough.
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Atticus Fynch
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2010.08.06 11:24:00 -
[24]
NO!!
Im a PC gamer.
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Vexion Daran
Gallente Templars of Space AAA Citizens
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Posted - 2010.08.06 11:26:00 -
[25]
If i ever buy i console i will try it out.
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TheBlueMonkey
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2010.08.06 11:28:00 -
[26]
Originally by: Gareth Angel
a comparable game within a new(ish) setting.
Reskinning an old game doesn't make it a new game. That's my issue with fps's plus most have that "start out alright\interesting for a few levels then get weird" thing about them.
Crysis was really good when I was shooting at asians then we had to go for the generic tanks>aliens>0g>cars>planes>boats thing.
Same goes for most FPS's... except far cry 2... that was just trash...
Multiplayer wise they all usually boil down to twitch and shoot because everyone's too pansey to give consiquences to death and the market doesn't want consiquences anyhow.
It'd be nice if it were a fps that you couldn't unload a full mag into someones face and have them still hop away from you but that's to be seen.
I'm not holding out much hope. --
Nothing is worthless, you may have gotten it for free but it still has an inherent value
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Sepheir Sepheron
Caldari Perkone
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Posted - 2010.08.06 11:31:00 -
[27]
If CCP gets their heads out of their asses and makes it a PC shooter.
I wanna dock up, get shipped to a planet in a clone with no implants and f**k b***hes up.
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Genya Arikaido
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Posted - 2010.08.06 11:34:00 -
[28]
No, I won't be.
That said, I've got a professional Xbox360 tournament team leader in my corp, who is planning to build a Dust team to counterpart for my corp, if it's actually needed/useful.
Originally by: CCP Tuxford my bad.
Rest assured I'm being ridiculed by my co-workers.
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Dr Sheepbringer
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.08.06 11:37:00 -
[29]
If it's a good game, why not? Of course I have a ps3 so i'm screwed. Won't buy a xbox for a game...
Also, i'm a mac gamer. Stop whining. |
Delta Bacat
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Posted - 2010.08.06 11:39:00 -
[30]
I'm going to be guessing most people here are going to post "no" as most are PC-gamers (as I am).
That said, I think the idea of Dust is great and am hoping it's a good shooter with a bit extra (sandbox / other mmo interface). My friend has an X-box and I'm certainly going to check it out on his console.
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Amaron Ghant
Caldari Tritanium Space Whales Black Thorne Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.06 11:39:00 -
[31]
no I would sup with the devil and forget to use a long spoon if it led to me spitting on the grave of nationalism.
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Malcanis
Caldari Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2010.08.06 11:46:00 -
[32]
No, because I dont own a console or have any desire for one.
That said, Dust is explicitly aimed at people who dont play EVE
Malcanis' Law: Whenever a mechanics change is proposed on behalf of "new players", that change is always to the overwhelming advantage of richer, older players. |
Jhagiti Tyran
Invicta.
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Posted - 2010.08.06 11:49:00 -
[33]
Maybe it depends, if its as good as something like Planetside I will consider buying it but if its just a general FPS I wont bother.
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Camios
Minmatar Insurgent New Eden Tribe
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Posted - 2010.08.06 11:50:00 -
[34]
Edited by: Camios on 06/08/2010 11:51:05 It's just obvious that EVE gamers in general will not buy DUST, because
- It's on consoles
- It's a one in a million FPS
But a regular FPS player that plays on consoles could like it, and there are also EVE gamers that own a console and play shooters on it.
While I bet that some rich EVE fanboi will buy a console just for playing dust, I think that the EVE forum is hardly the best place where you could effectively survey the market for such a game, especially now that the forums are full of hathred towards CCP and its secondary projects.
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Dar Wento
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Posted - 2010.08.06 12:02:00 -
[35]
Hell no!
Incarna is one thing to accept, but something like 'Dust' - no no no no. In my personal opinion it's one of the most serious mistakes CCP has done to date and they will say the same 5-7 months after it has been implemented, I'm sure. Thank you CCP for plowing money into a badly thought-out side-project that will turn into black hole sooner rather than later.
/Dar.
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Denidil
Gallente Rape Pillage and Burn
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Posted - 2010.08.06 12:04:00 -
[36]
yes, if its available for PC
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Apollo Gabriel
Domini Lex Talionis Etherium Cartel
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Posted - 2010.08.06 12:14:00 -
[37]
Maybe
BUT I have mentioned and shown the Trailer to many console people I know and several who stopped or rarely play FPS now, all find the idea amazing. They all almost exactly said the same thing "Wow a fps with a point" what does that mean? Well they got tired of "go here and kill these people cause the game told you to."
I think Dust = amazing idea and is worth the effort of making.
I do not think Eve is worth neglecting. TO CCP: The implicit promise of polished quality keeps me playing through the rough times. Don't let the Trolls keep you from your goals. |
Bomberlocks
Minmatar CTRL-Q
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Posted - 2010.08.06 12:18:00 -
[38]
Short answer: No
Long Answer: Never had a console, and will not spend money on one for an FPS. Also, said FPS is based on UT3, which I have on the PC, even though I've rarely played it.
Middle Answer: Cranked out my old copy of Lock-On last night. Even more complex than Eve, requiring eve more skill. That would be pretty awesome as an MMO.
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Jobby
Minmatar Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2010.08.06 12:25:00 -
[39]
Originally by: Giovanni DalleBandeNere
Originally by: RaTTuS NO
this
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Andrea Skye
Caldari The Python Cartel. The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.08.06 12:26:00 -
[40]
my xbox is broke, and i have no intention of getting it fixed to play dust. So no, probably not going to buy it.
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Halcyon Ingenium
Caldari Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
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Posted - 2010.08.06 12:28:00 -
[41]
Nah, last console I bought was PS2, and I didn't play it that much.
Originally by: Dr Reinhold Eve is the endgame. Every other game you have played has just been preparation for this.
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Eelis Kiy
Gallente Shadows Of The Federation
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Posted - 2010.08.06 12:34:00 -
[42]
No because it won't run on my Sega Mega Drive.
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>>where the frack is my ship?<< |
Susitna
Caldari The Tuskers
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Posted - 2010.08.06 12:42:00 -
[43]
No. I have zero interest in it. Absoulty zero.
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NatteFrost85
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.08.06 12:43:00 -
[44]
if its released to ps3, yes. if not then no.
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John Ellsworth
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.08.06 12:44:00 -
[45]
Edited by: John Ellsworth on 06/08/2010 12:44:20
Yes , currently do have an xbox360 1st console I ever purchased , and yes I got it soon as I found out about Dust 514.
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edtheshed
Fusion Enterprises Ltd Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.08.06 12:44:00 -
[46]
im an xbox gamer so probably will get, after i have a look at some reviews for it, then ill make the call
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Barakkus
Caelestis Iudicium
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Posted - 2010.08.06 12:49:00 -
[47]
Originally by: zz01shagsme I might, Will need an xbox first as I am a PC player at heart.
I was going to do that, until I found out how much an xbox costs...I haven't bought a console in 10 years, figured prices were about the same, I was wrong. Looks like just to play dust will run $400 lol, screw that.
Originally by: CCP Dropbear
rofl
edit: ah crap, dev account. Oh well, official rofl at you sir.
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Camios
Minmatar Insurgent New Eden Tribe
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Posted - 2010.08.06 12:49:00 -
[48]
This thread is a bit like asking to men if they would buy a skirt
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Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2010.08.06 12:56:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Malcanis No, because I don't own a console or have any desire for one.
This.
Originally by: Torothanax Low population in w systems makes afk cloaking unattractive.
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Rakshasa Taisab
Caldari Sane Industries Inc. Initiative Mercenaries
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Posted - 2010.08.06 12:56:00 -
[50]
Originally by: Camios This thread is a bit like asking to men if they would buy a skirt
A fellow skirt-lover!
Want to exchange pics and DUST nicks?
BTW, who would ever buy a game when it's free?
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King Gore
The Church of Sentcha
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Posted - 2010.08.06 13:02:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Giovanni DalleBandeNere
Originally by: RaTTuS NO
this
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Originally by: Verone Happy Ishtar is extremely happy
Originally by: Kahn Souphanousinphone I thought I was going to live next to a powerful man, now I just live next to power.
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John Ellsworth
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.08.06 13:06:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Barakkus
Originally by: zz01shagsme I might, Will need an xbox first as I am a PC player at heart.
I was going to do that, until I found out how much an xbox costs...I haven't bought a console in 10 years, figured prices were about the same, I was wrong. Looks like just to play dust will run $400 lol, screw that.
your looking in the wrong places/time
got mine on sale at wallmart 225.00 us.
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Malcanis
Caldari Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2010.08.06 13:07:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Camios This thread is a bit like asking to men if they would buy a skirt
So Dust is aimed at the scottish market?
Malcanis' Law: Whenever a mechanics change is proposed on behalf of "new players", that change is always to the overwhelming advantage of richer, older players. |
Nocturnal Avenger
x13
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Posted - 2010.08.06 13:11:00 -
[54]
Originally by: Bad Princess I play on a PC, not on a console.
*IF* it is ever released on the platform I use, I may consider the idea.
If it remains strictly a console game, then no.
This
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okst666
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Posted - 2010.08.06 13:12:00 -
[55]
I wonder - if DUST would be a movie. Would you go to cinema and watch it? Or would you say..."Naaah..its just another general scifi-action-movie ... one of millions".
I will buy DUST, because it plays in the eve universe, wich I like. I know some of the background, I allready know most of the mechanics in eve. That makes DUST attractive to me.
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Charles Javeroux
Gallente INTERSTELLAR CREDIT
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Posted - 2010.08.06 13:37:00 -
[56]
YES, DEFINITELY!
If DUST514 won't be released to PC, will buy XBOX. And then my long wait will be over to go and bust the neighbours hencoop
Originally by: Orek Fear I guess the ultimate solution to inflation in EVE turned out to be an NPC stripper...
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Willie Whitehead
Dragonstar Corp
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Posted - 2010.08.06 13:46:00 -
[57]
Originally by: Mag's
Originally by: Malcanis No, because I don't own a console or have any desire for one.
This.
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Gribzor
Best Path Inc. Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.06 13:46:00 -
[58]
No, FPS on consoles = fail and stupid
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Omal Oma
Shadowed Command Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2010.08.06 13:52:00 -
[59]
Originally by: zz01shagsme I might, Will need an xbox first as I am a PC player at heart.
7/10 since people bit ________________________________________________ <--- My in-game me. |
Ana Vyr
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Posted - 2010.08.06 13:53:00 -
[60]
Only if the game stands on its own as an excellent shooter.
I won't be buying to to grief EvE players though.
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Eliax
Gallente CONCORD Operations
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Posted - 2010.08.06 13:57:00 -
[61]
NO.
Reasons:
- I like consoles (Got a PS3), but i don't like FPS on anything but a PC. - Like any other FPS game i own on console, Dust will be gathering Dust after 2 weeks. - Since i do not own an XBOX i'm certainly not going to buy one for FPS.
If it ever comes out on PC, then maybe.
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Pohbis
Neo T.E.C.H.
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Posted - 2010.08.06 13:59:00 -
[62]
If it turns out to be a good FPS. Doesn't require Xbox Live Gold to play and you aren't forced into micropayments to enjoy it. Yeah, why not support my EVE when I want to frag some screaming 13-year olds.
... that's if I play EVE when DUST comes around. If.
( 18 months and all that )
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Syn Callibri
Blacklight Incorporated
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Posted - 2010.08.06 14:00:00 -
[63]
NO...I play eVe, on a PC not a console.
Syn Callibri Ilharess to the Scorpion Tribe
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Tobias Sjodin
Ore Mongers Black Hand.
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Posted - 2010.08.06 14:01:00 -
[64]
I won't.
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Ejit
Amarr Hairy Beavers
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Posted - 2010.08.06 14:06:00 -
[65]
I wouldn't want to downgrade to a console when my PC cost me four times as much than an Xbox to build.
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Ratnix Foisen
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Posted - 2010.08.06 14:22:00 -
[66]
no.
I don't play shooters on consoles. I have tried them and I don't like them at all. Also the fact that it is out for the 360 only means I would never buy it. I own one but I don't like it in the least bit. If it was for the PC I would probably get it to try it but I will never purchase another shooter for a console again.
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Jack bubu
Lyonesse. RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.06 14:24:00 -
[67]
Got a xbox laying around and gathering dust so yes imma buy it.
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Sibil Vane
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.08.06 14:27:00 -
[68]
FPS and mmo¦s are for PC. Console is for sportgames, fightgames etc. All men are prepared to accomplish the incredible if their ideals are threatened. |
Nova Tiempo
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Posted - 2010.08.06 14:31:00 -
[69]
no, not a console owner. Still, hope it does well.
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dgastuffz1
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Posted - 2010.08.06 14:32:00 -
[70]
NO
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Lunachan
Minmatar One of These Days
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Posted - 2010.08.06 14:37:00 -
[71]
Not unless it comes to PC.
'If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.'
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Icantseeanythinginthis
Amarr Hedion University
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Posted - 2010.08.06 14:39:00 -
[72]
No.. I stopped buying consoles once I hit puberty.
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X Kent
Respect Legionnaires MASQUERADE.
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Posted - 2010.08.06 14:42:00 -
[73]
Originally by: Deva Blackfire no
Battlefield 3, Killzone 3, Resistance 3 (probably) coming out next year. Add Crysis 2 for a good measure and there is no place for mediciore shooters :)
This
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Elijah Mohammed
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2010.08.06 14:45:00 -
[74]
Not with new halo coming out.
I fear the ccp lag monster will hit dust as well.
"THE DUTY OF THE CIVILIZED MAN IS TO TEACH AND TRAIN THE UNCIVILIZED"
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Sekretarka
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Posted - 2010.08.06 14:47:00 -
[75]
I'll buy it, hopefully I'll get to test it as well.
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Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
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Posted - 2010.08.06 14:51:00 -
[76]
if I ever come into possesion of a 360 I'll certainly check it out.
http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php |
Shocker Steg
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.08.06 14:56:00 -
[77]
No, don't own a console, and I'm pc player. BUT I will look into youtube movies on how it looks and how the interactions works from their side of the screen etc.. ------- Always a deeply religious people, religion remains of great importance to every Amarrian, a fervour which at various times has been responsible both for great good and great evil. |
bitter vetiranarian
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Posted - 2010.08.06 14:57:00 -
[78]
If CCP buys me an xbox 360 I'll gladly buy a copy of dust.
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Jovialmadness
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Posted - 2010.08.06 15:00:00 -
[79]
Yep sure will buy it. Gotta "dust" off the old xbox360 but it should be fun! |
Louis deGuerre
Gallente Amicus Morte Shock an Awe
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Posted - 2010.08.06 15:00:00 -
[80]
Oh goodies !
Yet another unoriginal thread we've seen 1000 times already with topic in capitals no less.
-1/10 Sol: A microwarp drive? In a battleship? Are you insane? They arenÆt built for this! Clear Skies - The Movie
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DTMKnight
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Posted - 2010.08.06 15:10:00 -
[81]
Hell Yes!
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Murauke
EvE Rookie Collective EvE Rookie Collective Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.06 15:14:00 -
[82]
Originally by: Louis deGuerre Oh goodies !
Yet another thread i feel i need to write a completely useless reply to, i so rule and ill even give it a score
FIXED
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Dominatus Crispus
Nation of Muppets
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Posted - 2010.08.06 15:15:00 -
[83]
we will probably by it, but not because my wife and i want to play it, but our 10 year old daughter loves fps shooters on the xbox and is quite good at them. (finished Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 in like 17 hours.)
she tried eve, and it just was too slow for her at first, "too slow and to much clicking" she says. so she went back to her xbox, but i mentioned dust to her and she sound excited, but not any more excite about any other new fps that comes out.
so yeah... tl/dr version... yes i will buy one.
Have a good eve quote? Corp mate say something stupid? [Post It!] |
Klamaranta
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Posted - 2010.08.06 15:16:00 -
[84]
Yes, i'll buy it. So i can shoot players while shooting pos' ^^
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Gladys Pank
Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2010.08.06 15:19:00 -
[85]
No Signature locked for inappropriate image. Zymurgist |
das licht
Gallente Echtzeit AG
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Posted - 2010.08.06 15:19:00 -
[86]
No, no and again no! FPS are boring like hell.
Anyway, Dust comes out 15 years to late. It's not the best time to release a shooter. Maybe it'll never be released. At least it'll be a huge, huge cash sink.
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Elbert Ainstein
Perkone
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Posted - 2010.08.06 15:26:00 -
[87]
Originally by: Bad Princess I play on a PC, not on a console.
*IF* it is ever released on the platform I use, I may consider the idea.
If it remains strictly a console game, then no.
This |
Di Mulle
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Posted - 2010.08.06 15:28:00 -
[88]
I do not own a console, I never had a slightest intention to buy it and DUST is not going to change that. So no.
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Adacia Calla
Minmatar Native Freshfood
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Posted - 2010.08.06 15:36:00 -
[89]
Not buying an xbox just for 1 title.
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Isten Baba
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Posted - 2010.08.06 15:37:00 -
[90]
No.
I honestly don't understand the decision to develop Dust at all. Please focus on your core expertise/income, CCP!
One can argue about the merits of Incarna, but at least it is focussed on CCP's target audience. Dust is almost completely unrelated to anything CCP has done (they could never compete with specialised developers), and unlike what its customers (PC users!) are looking for. I fear that Dust will go down in the history books as a case study in poor management choices. It even endangers EVE's success by alienating the fanbase and draining resources from their core product.
Oh, and anyone who thinks that Dust customers will flock to EVE, or that Dust will be able to maintain a long-term following, or that it will truly affect EVE game play in any meaningful way, is seriously deluded.
Bad. Really bad.
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Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
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Posted - 2010.08.06 15:37:00 -
[91]
I don't even know how consoles still exist since computers became more affordable.
My deepest sympathies. Prof. Tarantula, Esq. |
Bluefix
Gnu Terror Corps
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Posted - 2010.08.06 15:40:00 -
[92]
No, I would consider it if it was for pc and not buy to win, but even then the game is lacking feature wise (with what we know so far)
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davcin
Caldari davcin Corp
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Posted - 2010.08.06 15:41:00 -
[93]
In 18 months or now, NO! ____________________________________________
EVEViewer - view your journal, orders, transactions and allot more |
Khors
Amtek Inc
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Posted - 2010.08.06 15:45:00 -
[94]
Originally by: Professor Tarantula I don't even know how consoles still exist since computers became more affordable.
Because they just work. People no longer have the patience to troubleshoot for every second game you buy and install.
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Ryhss
Caldari Ominous Corp Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.08.06 15:45:00 -
[95]
Edited by: Ryhss on 06/08/2010 15:46:25
Originally by: RaTTuS NO
What he said!
Originally by: aratillion
LEGEN.... Wait for it DARY!
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Barakkus
Caelestis Iudicium
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Posted - 2010.08.06 15:46:00 -
[96]
Originally by: John Ellsworth
Originally by: Barakkus
Originally by: zz01shagsme I might, Will need an xbox first as I am a PC player at heart.
I was going to do that, until I found out how much an xbox costs...I haven't bought a console in 10 years, figured prices were about the same, I was wrong. Looks like just to play dust will run $400 lol, screw that.
your looking in the wrong places/time
got mine on sale at wallmart 225.00 us.
I wouldn't pay more than $100 for a console, my playstation was entertainment for about a year, that's probably how an xbox would end up for me too lol.
Originally by: CCP Dropbear
rofl
edit: ah crap, dev account. Oh well, official rofl at you sir.
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Korizan
OORt Cloud Research
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Posted - 2010.08.06 15:57:00 -
[97]
The last console game I owned was on an Atari 2600. Need I same more ?
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Nisanu
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Posted - 2010.08.06 15:59:00 -
[98]
Originally by: Isten Baba No.
I honestly don't understand the decision to develop Dust at all. Please focus on your core expertise/income, CCP!
One can argue about the merits of Incarna, but at least it is focussed on CCP's target audience. Dust is almost completely unrelated to anything CCP has done (they could never compete with specialised developers), and unlike what its customers (PC users!) are looking for. I fear that Dust will go down in the history books as a case study in poor management choices. It even endangers EVE's success by alienating the fanbase and draining resources from their core product.
Oh, and anyone who thinks that Dust customers will flock to EVE, or that Dust will be able to maintain a long-term following, or that it will truly affect EVE game play in any meaningful way, is seriously deluded.
Bad. Really bad.
This.
There are many historic examples of companies losing sight of their core business, and eventually losing their customer base.
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Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
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Posted - 2010.08.06 16:10:00 -
[99]
Originally by: Khors
Originally by: Professor Tarantula I don't even know how consoles still exist since computers became more affordable.
Because they just work. People no longer have the patience to troubleshoot for every second game you buy and install.
That might have been the case about 15-20 years ago, but now there's nothing to it. Even installing new hardware, which used to take an intimate knowledge of many technical things, is now as simple as hooking it up, letting the OS install the drivers and configure things, and you're usually good to go with no further work. Hell, look at Macintosh, may as well be fisher price putting those out. The days of people needing to do everything manually themselves are mostly behind us, and even on the rare chance you do have to do something manually the answer is always just a quick google search away.
This does not, however, take into account people who screw their systems up by checking an unchecking boxes they don't understand, then forgetting they did. That leads to most of the 'troubleshooting' you see these days.
My deepest sympathies. Prof. Tarantula, Esq. |
Linji Yixuan
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Posted - 2010.08.06 16:19:00 -
[100]
If Dust was available on PC I'd buy it for sure. Since it isnt I am not buying it.
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Antihrist Pripravnik
4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.08.06 16:21:00 -
[101]
No.
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Ratnix Foisen
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Posted - 2010.08.06 16:28:00 -
[102]
Edited by: Ratnix Foisen on 06/08/2010 16:34:42
Originally by: Professor Tarantula
Originally by: Khors
Originally by: Professor Tarantula I don't even know how consoles still exist since computers became more affordable.
Because they just work. People no longer have the patience to troubleshoot for every second game you buy and install.
That might have been the case about 15-20 years ago, but now there's nothing to it. Even installing new hardware, which used to take an intimate knowledge of many technical things, is now as simple as hooking it up, letting the OS install the drivers and configure things, and you're usually good to go with no further work. Hell, look at Macintosh, may as well be fisher price putting those out. The days of people needing to do everything manually themselves are mostly behind us, and even on the rare chance you do have to do something manually the answer is always just a quick google search away.
This does not, however, take into account people who screw their systems up by checking an unchecking boxes they don't understand, then forgetting they did. That leads to most of the 'troubleshooting' you see these days.
Consoles are great for people who have kids. Which would you rather have your young child playing on, your computer that has access to all kinds of **** and other nasties you don't want your kid to have access to or a console that for the most part can really only play games. Then you throw in the fact that a majority of PC owners are computer illiterate. Then their kids get on the computer and start surfing the darker side of the net and end up getting virus after virus. Most parents aren't competent enough to handle the solution themselves so they think they have to pay somebody to fix it for them. I could go on and on about that aspect of the console being better for a parent to have for their kids to play games on over a computer.
You also have to look at what started back in the 70's and 80's with the latchkey kids. Once both parents started working and then more and more households turned into single parent homes, kids more and more started coming home to empty houses. You then had parents who spent the entire day working and then had to come home and do the housework, cooking and whatnot. Parents started spending less and less time with their children and started looking at other forms of entertainment to keep them out of their hair. Back before the consoles really started to take off with the NES the solution was to throw the kids in front of the TV for hours on end. Once the consoles really started to take off and not cost too much to be unaffordable it was much easier for parents to buy and console and a TV for the kids and throw this in their room.
So now you have a generation of adults who have spent most of their lives with a console to play with so they are always going to be popular with them. They in turn have kids and introduce their kids to the same thing they knew about.
Now that computer are so affordable and are much easier to use then they were back in the 90's there will start to be a change in the type of entertainment that people start to use. But that is going to take a few more years until the majority of the people born after 2k start having kids of their own.
Will consoles ever die out? I don't believe so. They will just turn more into computers than they already are just running their own OS instead of Windows or whatever. Look at the PS3, it isn't that far off from your basic PC, just not as powerful
Edit: you also have to look at consoles from a developers standpoint. Consoles are much easier to program for. The hardware and the software are the same on every console. Developers know exactly what they are getting into when they make a game for a console. PC's on the other hand, there are many different hardware and software configuration out there that can cause tons of problems when developing a game for them. It will always be easier to develop for a consle
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Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
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Posted - 2010.08.06 16:36:00 -
[103]
Agree on all counts Ratnix, but i won't share your belief that consoles will be around for many years to come until i see the the next gen ones unveiled. Sony, Nintendo, and Microsoft have been unusually silent about any plans to continue past this generation.
My deepest sympathies. Prof. Tarantula, Esq. |
digitalwanderer
Gallente DF0 incorporated
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Posted - 2010.08.06 16:39:00 -
[104]
Edited by: digitalwanderer on 06/08/2010 16:40:55 I play plenty of first person shooters on my PC these days,with the main one being battlefield bad company 2,and using ATI's eyefinity tech to power up 3,24 inch displays with a combined resolution of 5760*1200,and enjoying the cutting edge graphics and some parts of the environment within the game are also destructible,and explosives,artillery or rocket launchers can and do make craters on the ground,which can be used to hide anti tank mines more effectively.
Dice's frostbite engine is basically more advanced than the Unreal 3 engine used with dust,while the X360 console at the hardware level is much inferior to my PC(X360 came out in 2005),and only drives 1 display,not 3,so how the hell has dust any chance to impress me or any others with similar high end PC setups and playing games using more advanced engines,i really don't know.
I also don't think that the average console user will give a rats ass about eve's storyline either,so it might end up as just another FPS game for an outdated console,of which there's already plenty of those to choose from,and they use the same graphics engine that Dust will(unreal 3).
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alittlebirdy
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Posted - 2010.08.06 16:46:00 -
[105]
let me think about it for a... NO
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Yldrad
The Dandy KillerS
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Posted - 2010.08.06 16:58:00 -
[106]
Don't know. Will it be aviable on PS3?
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theSONARnet
Gallente IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.06 16:59:00 -
[107]
no ______________________________________________ Fight my Brute: http://thesonarnet.mybrute.com |
Ran Khanon
Amarr Swords Horses and Heavy Metal
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Posted - 2010.08.06 17:00:00 -
[108]
Dust is obviously aimed at a different crowd as EVE caters for. CCP intended this, so I guess they won't be surprised about our many 'noes'. A "No" for me as well.
PC based harsh and ruthless sandboxes for the win. *primes another landmine* I agree with everything Barakkus posts. |
Niccolado Starwalker
Gallente Shadow Templars
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Posted - 2010.08.06 17:23:00 -
[109]
Originally by: zz01shagsme I might, Will need an xbox first as I am a PC player at heart.
Nope. I loate FPS games, and I dont have any kinds of gamebox at all. Dust must be suprimely and beyond everything perfect to make me buy a gamebox plus the game.
Originally by: Dianabolic Your tears are absolutely divine, like a fine fine wine, rolling down your cheeks until they flow down the river of LOL. |
Stitcher
Caldari Lai Dai Infinity Systems
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Posted - 2010.08.06 17:38:00 -
[110]
man, the elitism and jadedness in this thread is stifling.
I'm TOTALLY getting Dust. Fortunately, I already own both a 360 and a PS3. What they're lacking is a decent MMOFPS - hopefully, that's what DUST will turn out to be. -
- Verin "Stitcher" Hakatain.
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Y Berion
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.08.06 17:45:00 -
[111]
If Dust was made for PC, I would probably give it a try - FPS games can be fun.
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Ioci
Gallente Morrigna Order
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Posted - 2010.08.06 17:48:00 -
[112]
Originally by: Guilliman R Lol you're joking. If it works just as well as EVE it'll be the buggiest console game I ever know. I wouldn't touch it with a 50ft long pole.
Tell you what, since EVE players pay it's development cost, how about giving each EVE player a free copy?
This. And I still wouldnt play it. More grind in the hamburger factory? Pass. |
Magnus Orin
Minmatar United Systems Navy Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.08.06 17:49:00 -
[113]
If it is released for PS3 I will.
Just because I believe that CCP should be spending its resources elsewhere, doesn't mean I won't still try out their new games. Sarcasm - Because i'm too far away to strangle you. |
Pesky LaRue
Minmatar The Magnificent Bastards
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Posted - 2010.08.06 17:53:00 -
[114]
Edited by: Pesky LaRue on 06/08/2010 17:54:04
Originally by: Khors Because they just work. People no longer have the patience to troubleshoot for every second game you buy and install.
Seriously, I can't remember the last time I had to troubleshoot a game, let alone "every second game". With the exception of trying to run a few older games under W7 and having to figure out what needs to be done to run a 7-year old game on a 1-year old OS, I don't think I've had to troubleshoot a game since installing Windows XP back in 2001. You might wanna upgrade from that 386 or MacClassic or whatever you're using :P
And to the OP: I have an Xbox already so, yup, I'll be picking it up to try it out at the very least. .
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digitalwanderer
Gallente DF0 incorporated
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Posted - 2010.08.06 18:01:00 -
[115]
Edited by: digitalwanderer on 06/08/2010 18:02:17
Originally by: Stitcher man, the elitism and jadedness in this thread is stifling.
I'm TOTALLY getting Dust. Fortunately, I already own both a 360 and a PS3. What they're lacking is a decent MMOFPS - hopefully, that's what DUST will turn out to be.
Standards are getting pretty high for game development,with some taking 5~6 years to make,and they're still not out,and they're just FPS games in the end.
One that comes to mind is from the company that invented the FPS game,id software,and their rage game,wich uses their latest Tech 5 graphics engine,has been in development ever since Doom 3 came out in 2004,and will only get released in 2011,and there will be a console version of it.
The same applies to Crysis 2,and battlefield bad company 2,and battlefield 3,and gears of war 3,the latter made by the company that developed the engine that Dust will use(Epic games),and many other FPS games available in consoles,so i don't think that at least in the graphics portion of dust,it's going to stand out when compared to the that kind of competition,so it'll have to rely on gameplay to stand out.
The market for FPS games in consoles is pretty full basically.
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Stitcher
Caldari Lai Dai Infinity Systems
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Posted - 2010.08.06 18:13:00 -
[116]
Originally by: digitalwanderer The market for FPS games in consoles is pretty full basically.
And? that doesn't mean a product can't be good, it just means it has a harder time standing out from the crowd. -
- Verin "Stitcher" Hakatain.
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Mykael Skychild
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Posted - 2010.08.06 18:19:00 -
[117]
I probably will. My only worry about Dust is that console FPS games don't have the staying power that MMO's do. So two years after Dust is out nobody will be playing it and there will be a huge hole in the expanded Eve universe that nobody cares about but is still somehow important.
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K'uata Sayus
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Posted - 2010.08.06 18:33:00 -
[118]
Right after I schedule my lobotomy, so I have the right mindset.
EVERYONE SEEMS NORMAL UNTIL YOU GET TO KNOW THEM. |
Marlona Sky
D00M. Excessum Messor
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Posted - 2010.08.06 18:35:00 -
[119]
Hell yes I'm going to buy it. Why? For the massive amount of tears it will generate for EVE-Online. All these "I'm a PC only person and refuse to play any other platform!" will be crying all over the forums when I take my squad of DUSTers and **** up their planet ****.
I will also **** up their spaceships via EVE as well, just to double **** them off.
I will be controlling both their games, even though they can only play one.
Also calling it now, the massive amount of threadnoughts in these forums from babies who don't like console players having an affect on their internet spaceships demanding DUST be completely severed from EVE so they can spin the ship in peace.
So please, please keep the "It's not fair DUST is console only!" tears flowing. They are the best.
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jitawhore
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Posted - 2010.08.06 18:36:00 -
[120]
FU*K YEAH i will be buying it and to all the peasants out there buy a FUC&ING Xbox KEEP IT UP CCP DAMN THE BUGS FULL SPEED AHEAD WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT
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Rhaegor Stormborn
H A V O C Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.08.06 18:43:00 -
[121]
Not a chance in hell. Two reasons:
First, because FPS get boring quick, plsu there are much better FPS game development company;s than CCP. I would never buy another CCP product outside of Eve.
Second, and more importantly, is that CCP is neglecting the one good thing they have ever done to try and develope the sad excuse for a game above. I will not support than endeavor.
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jitawhore
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Posted - 2010.08.06 18:44:00 -
[122]
BOOOOOHOOO dry your eyes POPEYE
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Khors
Amtek Inc
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Posted - 2010.08.06 18:50:00 -
[123]
Originally by: Pesky LaRue Edited by: Pesky LaRue on 06/08/2010 17:54:04
Originally by: Khors Because they just work. People no longer have the patience to troubleshoot for every second game you buy and install.
Seriously, I can't remember the last time I had to troubleshoot a game, let alone "every second game". With the exception of trying to run a few older games under W7 and having to figure out what needs to be done to run a 7-year old game on a 1-year old OS, I don't think I've had to troubleshoot a game since installing Windows XP back in 2001. You might wanna upgrade from that 386 or MacClassic or whatever you're using :P
The point is not that it's incredibly difficult problems, I have no problems fixing them, worst case scenario there's a workaround at the first google hit. However for many people this is too much work for some gameplay What I originally replied to was "why do so many people have consoles", and this is what I was referring to. Computer games many times need fixes that many people get tired of, like the "making 7 year old game work on a 1 year old OS" you refered to. On a console, the game is either made for your console or it isn't.
I would anyhow say computer gaming offers alot more what with mods and all.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.06 19:16:00 -
[124]
If dust has mouse and keyboard support? Sure thing I'll buy it. If it doesn't then I'll pass. But as the engine they licensed from unreal literally has mouse and keyboard support for consoles built in they can't possibly use the 'not enough time or resources to impliment it' excuse.
Also the ut3 engine seems to be capable of some truely fantastic visuals and game mechanics if this is any indication. But as to how well that potential gets used for dust we will see.
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Simply Human
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Posted - 2010.08.06 19:16:00 -
[125]
Edited by: Simply Human on 06/08/2010 19:16:52 Dust isn't for the people playing EVE. It's a halo/battlefield clone with a gimick that probably won't make it for very long.
Unless they somehow manage to make the eve-dust interaction amazing it's going to be hard to compete with an ordinary objective based fps when there's already more than enough of them out. |
Gogela
Freeport Exploration
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Posted - 2010.08.06 19:19:00 -
[126]
Yes.... once I'm done with Halo Reach... unless DUST is better... ------------------------------------
"A hungry man will tell you anything if you give him a cookie." |
Spartan Colonol
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Posted - 2010.08.06 19:35:00 -
[127]
With the standards of console games been pushed higher and higher every year, to name a few Halo Reach, Crysis 2, FEAR 3, COD7... Notice how the companies and studios are FPS veterans, compared to ccp pushing out its first fps. If the trailer is any to go by (and the current standing EVE has with its players) then ccp's debut is going be the biggest flop on consoles this gaming year. So thats an almost definite NO from me, until i see it selling at ú5 in a years time
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Krecian
Gallente Essence of Decay Black Cartel.
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Posted - 2010.08.06 19:48:00 -
[128]
While I adore FPS games, Dust will be a big no from me as long as it's console only. It's not that I think console games suck, it's just that I prefer to play FPS games using a mouse and keyboard over a controller. Personal preference issue, nothing else. I wish CCP luck in their venture, otherwise. The premise is sound IMO --------- "The first rock thrown again, welcome to hell little saint. Mother Gia in slaughter, welcome to paradise soldier." -Nightwish, Planet Hell |
Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.06 19:59:00 -
[129]
Originally by: Krecian While I adore FPS games, Dust will be a big no from me as long as it's console only. It's not that I think console games suck, it's just that I prefer to play FPS games using a mouse and keyboard over a controller. Personal preference issue, nothing else. I wish CCP luck in their venture, otherwise. The premise is sound IMO
What if they include mouse and keyboard support?
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Atedar Kerane
Silentium Mortalitas
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Posted - 2010.08.06 20:10:00 -
[130]
Originally by: zz01shagsme WILL YOU BUY DUST?
Yes, yes I will
Move along now, no CCP flaming in this post
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Sazkyen
State War Academy
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Posted - 2010.08.06 20:13:00 -
[131]
Unlikely (no). -SIG- Ship comparison |
Emma Royd
Caldari Maddled Gommerils
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Posted - 2010.08.06 20:14:00 -
[132]
Probably yes, eve has become a little stagnant for me at the mo, so maybe it would revitalise my interest in it, I'd have to do some more researching it first to see how much it interacts with eve and if it looks good enough to buy an xbox for. +_+
Artificial Intelligence is no match for Natural Stupidity |
Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.06 20:16:00 -
[133]
Originally by: Atedar Kerane
Originally by: zz01shagsme WILL YOU BUY DUST?
Yes, yes I will
Move along now, no CCP flaming in this post
But cccp still hasn't fixed fleet fights therefore cccp is teh poo poo concerning anything else that cccp does u plexlicking fanboi u.
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Pesky LaRue
Minmatar The Magnificent Bastards
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Posted - 2010.08.06 20:29:00 -
[134]
Originally by: Khors
Originally by: Pesky LaRue Edited by: Pesky LaRue on 06/08/2010 17:54:04
Originally by: Khors Because they just work. People no longer have the patience to troubleshoot for every second game you buy and install.
Seriously, I can't remember the last time I had to troubleshoot a game, let alone "every second game". With the exception of trying to run a few older games under W7 and having to figure out what needs to be done to run a 7-year old game on a 1-year old OS, I don't think I've had to troubleshoot a game since installing Windows XP back in 2001. You might wanna upgrade from that 386 or MacClassic or whatever you're using :P
The point is not that it's incredibly difficult problems, I have no problems fixing them, worst case scenario there's a workaround at the first google hit. However for many people this is too much work for some gameplay What I originally replied to was "why do so many people have consoles", and this is what I was referring to. Computer games many times need fixes that many people get tired of, like the "making 7 year old game work on a 1 year old OS" you refered to. On a console, the game is either made for your console or it isn't.
I would anyhow say computer gaming offers alot more what with mods and all.
I would agree on this last point, although i would be curious to hear what games you've had to troubleshoot in the last few years (without using my example). .
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Gneeznow
Minmatar Ship spinners inc
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Posted - 2010.08.06 20:41:00 -
[135]
no I dont own a console
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Raukho
Evoke. Ev0ke
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Posted - 2010.08.06 20:54:00 -
[136]
no concole no intention of buying one no confidence in Dust no confidence no
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Ceirah
Priory Of The Lemon Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.06 20:58:00 -
[137]
Never, untill its not on PC -------------------------------------------------- [2009.12.07 20:19:26] Tylr > atlas invade WI lol [20:22:32] Bobby Atlas > well i guess we will see you guys in a few weeks |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.08.06 21:02:00 -
[138]
Edited by: Tippia on 06/08/2010 21:02:40 Yes, if it's released on PS3, since it looks like it will attempt to pick up where Planetside lost the plot and thus not be a generic shooter unlike every other game released on consoles (and on PC for that matterà nothing of any relevance has been released there either in the last 7 years). ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |
Krecian
Gallente Essence of Decay Black Cartel.
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Posted - 2010.08.06 21:11:00 -
[139]
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Krecian While I adore FPS games, Dust will be a big no from me as long as it's console only. It's not that I think console games suck, it's just that I prefer to play FPS games using a mouse and keyboard over a controller. Personal preference issue, nothing else. I wish CCP luck in their venture, otherwise. The premise is sound IMO
What if they include mouse and keyboard support?
Then I would buy it if it's PS3. I won't buy an Xbox360 for any reason. --------- "The first rock thrown again, welcome to hell little saint. Mother Gia in slaughter, welcome to paradise soldier." -Nightwish, Planet Hell |
Zverofaust
Gallente Core Impulse
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Posted - 2010.08.06 21:25:00 -
[140]
Quote: WILL YOU BUY DUST?
WILL CCP FIX EVE?
___________________________________________ The Hero of Kamela The Terror of Tararan The Executioner of Ezzara |
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ViolenTUK
Gallente Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.06 21:31:00 -
[141]
No. CCP can kiss my fat ass.
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Orree
Dynaverse Corporation Sodalitas XX
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Posted - 2010.08.06 21:33:00 -
[142]
No. I haven't the slightest interest in it. I don't play FPS games as they give me a headache.
---------- "How much easier it is to be critical than to be correct." ---Benjamin Disraeli |
Your Client
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Posted - 2010.08.06 21:36:00 -
[143]
no, because my money is supposed to be going to expansions. Not going to a product that will make me spend more money.
..also I dont own a console and dont plan to
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Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
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Posted - 2010.08.06 21:41:00 -
[144]
Don't play that genre at all and have no intention of ever getting a console ..
They would have to release on PC and make some incredible awesome-sauce gimmick in it for me to even consider it.
Besides, wont have the time as Civilization 5 is coming this autumn \o/
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Pesky LaRue
Minmatar The Magnificent Bastards
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Posted - 2010.08.06 21:43:00 -
[145]
Originally by: Your Client no, because my money is supposed to be going to expansions
LOL @ you. "my money." How dense are you? .
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.08.06 21:44:00 -
[146]
Originally by: Your Client no, because my money is supposed to be going to expansions. Not going to a product that will make me spend more money.
No, it's not. Welcome to the world of software development. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |
Ma'kal
The Imperial Commonwealth Damage Control II
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Posted - 2010.08.06 21:48:00 -
[147]
Mostly a PC gamer so I don't think I will get Dust. I will let others be my grunts.
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Bomberlocks
Minmatar CTRL-Q
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Posted - 2010.08.06 22:09:00 -
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Originally by: Marlona Sky Hell yes I'm going to buy it. Why? For the massive amount of tears it will generate for EVE-Online. All these "I'm a PC only person and refuse to play any other platform!" will be crying all over the forums when I take my squad of DUSTers and **** up their planet ****.
I will also **** up their spaceships via EVE as well, just to double **** them off.
I will be controlling both their games, even though they can only play one.
Also calling it now, the massive amount of threadnoughts in these forums from babies who don't like console players having an affect on their internet spaceships demanding DUST be completely severed from EVE so they can spin the ship in peace.
So please, please keep the "It's not fair DUST is console only!" tears flowing. They are the best.
Apart from the trolling, the idea is interesting, but I think that a close dependency between the two games, i.e. that nullsec sov is dependent on planetary warfare, is something that would be very difficult to implement. Having Dust players fight for control over PI stuff might work tangentially, but I can't see it working in the long term. I somehow can't imagine FPS players being as dedicated as Eve players are and that would leave whoever is hiring the planetside merc with unreliable at best teams on planet.
And that would lead to yet another round of complaints here on the fourms, i.e. more internet drama.
So, in all likelihood, the link between Eve and Dust will be probably not be a very deep one, at least in the beginning. In fact, I think, given CCP's bottomless capacity for over-hyping and under-delivering, I wouldn't be surprised if much of the vaunted connection between the two happens to be something like Evegate, i.e. rather underwhelming, where CCP mainly use the apparent connection for marketing more than anything else.
But who knows, perhaps CCP can pull off a surprise and make Dust a huge success. I still wouldn't play it because I don't really like FPS games, but I'm sure that many would.
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Allestin Villimar
Zebra Corp
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Posted - 2010.08.06 22:42:00 -
[149]
I'll rent it. Depending on how I feel after that I might buy it. ...in bed. |
Khors
Amtek Inc
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Posted - 2010.08.06 23:22:00 -
[150]
Edited by: Khors on 06/08/2010 23:24:55 Edited by: Khors on 06/08/2010 23:23:59
Originally by: Pesky LaRue
I would agree on this last point, although i would be curious to hear what games you've had to troubleshoot in the last few years (without using my example).
- Battlefield 2 and battlefield 1942 (yes, I still play it sometimes) had the troubble with Punkbuster which is always annoying to fix.
Add to this the mods made for them, which usually requires a few reinstalls and complete deletion in between to make sure it will work (this could be seen as a bonus as it's not an option to have mods on consoles afaik).
- The multiplayer service for company of heroes is acting out every now and then.
- I've lost count on what unofficial patch that's most recent for VtM: Bloodlines to clean out most of the bugs.
- Armed Assault was giving me some troubble during install I had to search their forums for.
- Had to get new codecs and switch graphic drivers to make Fallout 3 work without crashing (this also included Oblivion).
- Mass Effect 2 started lagging up and doing about .5 fps on the main menu, I just gave up as I've completed it anyway and played the first one instead. Tried a few tips I googled without success and felt unwilling to turn off the CPU shutdown as someone suggested.
- Was another game just this summer now that kept overheating my graphics card, possibly the ArmA 2 - Operation arrowhead demo.
These are like I said mainly small issues that can be solved with googline and some basic computer knowledge.
Edit: formated it as a list instead
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Legs Mackenzie
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Posted - 2010.08.06 23:24:00 -
[151]
Edited by: Legs Mackenzie on 06/08/2010 23:25:34 Nope.
Unless the game is really great, and I mean legendary, the appeal will quickly be lost. The shelf life will probably be shorter than the development time, tbh.
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digitalwanderer
Gallente DF0 incorporated
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Posted - 2010.08.07 01:35:00 -
[152]
Edited by: digitalwanderer on 07/08/2010 01:38:00
Originally by: Stitcher
Originally by: digitalwanderer The market for FPS games in consoles is pretty full basically.
And? that doesn't mean a product can't be good, it just means it has a harder time standing out from the crowd.
It means having to be pretty much perfect in gameplay,balance and bugs right from the start,even when compared to other FPS games,where the companies that developed those competing titles have already developed 5~10 other FPS games in their history,so they have plenty of experience....Do CCP have that kind of experience...No.
One of the most noticable ones is DICE,who've already got more versions of battlefield(+ expansions),than i have fingers over the past 8 years,starting way back in 2002 with battlefield 1942
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.08.07 01:58:00 -
[153]
Edited by: Tippia on 07/08/2010 01:58:05
Originally by: digitalwanderer It means having to be pretty much perfect in gameplay,balance and bugs right from the start,even when compared to other FPS games,where the companies that developed those competing titles have already developed 5~10 other FPS games in their history,so they have plenty of experience....Do CCP have that kind of experience...No.
àor it means that they have to present a product that is radically different than those generic ones offered by everyone else. That is very much in line with CCP's experience. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |
digitalwanderer
Gallente DF0 incorporated
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Posted - 2010.08.07 02:36:00 -
[154]
Originally by: Tippia or it means that they have to present a product that is radically different than those generic ones offered by everyone else. That is very much in line with CCP's experience.
Such as?....I mean we have FPS games with different classes,specific abilities,different types of weapons and equipement,air vehicles of all types,ground vehicals of all types,all sorts of multiplayer modes too,voice communications,squads and even UAV's and even destructible environments... So what radical difference can they add that makes their FPS game stand out from others?
I mean i can't think oof anything else myself and i'm an avid FPS player for the last 15 years,going all the way back to Quake 1,and CCP haven't given any details that will make Dust special over the competition out there.
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Running missions
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Posted - 2010.08.07 02:51:00 -
[155]
shooters are meant for consoles, so if it is on 360 and doesnt suck i will get it
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Aion Amarra
Minmatar Real Nice And Laidback Corporation Black Core Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.07 03:28:00 -
[156]
If a PC version comes out, I'll buy and play it.
As long as it stays an XBox360 exclusive, not going to happen.
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nu artiste
Gallente Metalworks Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.08.07 04:01:00 -
[157]
I hate consoles.
Console games are stupid, I don't own a console, PC version of multiplatform game is 10 times superior.
I play on the PC. I doubt i will play DUST instead of eve.
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LittleTerror
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2010.08.07 04:04:00 -
[158]
Edited by: LittleTerror on 07/08/2010 04:05:39 If a PC version comes YES if not no, I hate consoles and all the little gimps that play on them.
Originally by: Running missions shooters are meant for consoles, so if it is on 360 and doesnt suck i will get it
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.07 04:11:00 -
[159]
Originally by: Krecian
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Krecian While I adore FPS games, Dust will be a big no from me as long as it's console only. It's not that I think console games suck, it's just that I prefer to play FPS games using a mouse and keyboard over a controller. Personal preference issue, nothing else. I wish CCP luck in their venture, otherwise. The premise is sound IMO
What if they include mouse and keyboard support?
Then I would buy it if it's PS3. I won't buy an Xbox360 for any reason.
Welcome to the 99th percentile.
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Max Cetera
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Posted - 2010.08.07 04:11:00 -
[160]
NO I WONT BUY IT BECAUSE IT WILL BE FREE TO PLAY. DUH.
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ArmyOfMe
TunDraGon Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.08.07 04:54:00 -
[161]
I had planed to buy it, but after having seen the way ccp has been doing for the last year or so my answer will have to be no
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Koba Kyogen
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2010.08.07 05:04:00 -
[162]
Nope
Originally by: CCP Sharkbait we are screwed. delaying startup again.
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Derptanooga
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Posted - 2010.08.07 06:16:00 -
[163]
I most likely will. As long as its decently priced and is available for the PS3.
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Necrosmith
Gallente Chunder Corp
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Posted - 2010.08.07 07:27:00 -
[164]
No. __________________ Follow me on Twitter
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Ariane VoxDei
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Posted - 2010.08.07 07:50:00 -
[165]
No.
First, it is console only.
Second, there isn't enough offical info on the gameplay.
If we were talking Planetside remade and there was a (much better than a mere port of the consode edition) PC option... i would consider it.
Right now though, complete dismissal. Not getting a console to get some (by definition horrible) console shooter.
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BuIIseye
Amarr Pax Amarria Corp
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Posted - 2010.08.07 08:47:00 -
[166]
I am going to wait for it to fail as a console FPS so that CCP cross-platforms it to PC and seeds it on tpb.com
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EscapeArtist
Terra Incognita Black Star Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.07 09:26:00 -
[167]
On Console... **** No... On PC... Maybe.
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mishkof
Caldari Emerald Empire
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Posted - 2010.08.07 09:26:00 -
[168]
I will buy it when it hits 24.99 or below at The Exhange. I predict that to be about 3 weeks.
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Stitcher
Caldari Lai Dai Infinity Systems
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Posted - 2010.08.07 09:48:00 -
[169]
Originally by: digitalwanderer Edited by: digitalwanderer on 07/08/2010 01:38:00
Originally by: Stitcher
Originally by: digitalwanderer The market for FPS games in consoles is pretty full basically.
And? that doesn't mean a product can't be good, it just means it has a harder time standing out from the crowd.
It means having to be pretty much perfect in gameplay,balance and bugs right from the start,even when compared to other FPS games,where the companies that developed those competing titles have already developed 5~10 other FPS games in their history,so they have plenty of experience....Do CCP have that kind of experience...No.
One of the most noticable ones is DICE,who've already got more versions of battlefield(+ expansions),than i have fingers over the past 8 years,starting way back in 2002 with battlefield 1942
Oh ye of little knowing what the hell you're talking about... -
- Verin "Stitcher" Hakatain.
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GrandMaster JAX
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Posted - 2010.08.07 10:51:00 -
[170]
No ... but i would be very pleased for the chance to have inferior console players do what my sick and perverted mind orders them.
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Kilhu Emmek
Minmatar Redshift Industrial Rooks and Kings
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Posted - 2010.08.07 10:58:00 -
[171]
Originally by: Legs Mackenzie The shelf life will probably be shorter than the development time, tbh.
This, sadly. We're not talking about an established franchise, we're talking about an odd little game from an odd little company that the majority of console gamers have never heard of. And it's attached somehow to some other internet spaceship game on PC? WAT? It's gonna confuse the hell out of the usual console gaming crowd.
Even if CCP can afford to advertise in the big gamer magazines at that point, it will be throwing good money after bad.
I have a PS3, am a console gamer, love shooting other people in the face, and own a bunch of first person shooters. Therein lies the problem: I own a bunch of FPS games, made by established (expert) names in the field, and unless a new game adds something really, really innovative ... and you know, honestly, I'm still probably going to pass on Dust. I just don't see the same company that brought us Carpal Tunnel 2010 (aka Planetary Interaction) being able to handle a FPS console game, which is the antithesis of grind.
How long will the respawn timer be? Will bigger alliances be able to outfit their Dust players better than small corp/solo Dust players? If not, exactly how is the game planned to mesh with eve (and honestly, anything else would be even more of a waste of time). I imagine you'll lose a ton of people on that point: limited interaction with eve? Why bother buying it. Heavy interaction with eve? "Oh yeah, that Dust game, the one where dudes from that other game can basically drop god-gear soldiers on you? No thanks." Does it even HAVE a single player mode? That's another big issue. If it doesn't, people are even less likely to plunk down $50 or $60 to play on servers that may not be around in six months' time.
Just too many red flags for a console gamer in a crowded genre competing for shrinking player budgets. CCP isn't going to be able to out-advertise EA or Rockstar or Dice, all of whom will probably have new products or sequels coming out by the time Dust is done. And let's not even talk about what Blizzard will be up to.
It sincerely makes me sad to see CCP wasting time and effort on this stuff. I feel like I'm watching a mad scientist drain the blood out of a healthy, living body into some godawful misshapen lump under a sheet. --
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Johnnyan
Caldari Johnnyan Inc.
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Posted - 2010.08.07 11:05:00 -
[172]
If one day it will come to PC, then yes, I might give it a try, otherwise no.
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Ashira Twilight
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Posted - 2010.08.07 11:05:00 -
[173]
No xbox, no ps3, not buying one to play ONE game.
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Ressiv
Cooperative Freelance Navigators Association
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Posted - 2010.08.07 11:08:00 -
[174]
If they make a propper port to PC, then I probably will. In all other cases I rather burn my money then spend it on a console. ========================== Nothing is true, everything is permitted. ========================== |
Cailais
Amarr THE ORDAINED
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Posted - 2010.08.07 11:26:00 -
[175]
I dont own a console so if DUST is console only I obviously wont be buying it. If I did own a console, or if DUST was released on PC then yes, I think I would buy and play it.
C.
the hydrostatic capsule blog
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putopugno
Gallente Unit-9
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Posted - 2010.08.07 11:46:00 -
[176]
Originally I was thinking it's not for me. However every time I see a Dust whine thread the urge increases to play it.
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Priss Eluveitie
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Posted - 2010.08.07 12:01:00 -
[177]
I don't own a console, even if I did I probably wouldn't buy it because FPS on consoles is stupid.
Port it to the PC and release it over Steam and I might consider it.
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Jones Bones
Final Agony
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Posted - 2010.08.07 13:11:00 -
[178]
If it lets me blow up PI stuff in EvE then YES.
Then I can grief people in two games simultaneously \o/
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Goremageddon Box
Minmatar Guerilla Gorilla
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Posted - 2010.08.07 13:21:00 -
[179]
is thiss only for xbox?
i have a ps3.....
i might buy an xbox for it but uhh.... well see. _______________________ Hottest Character Ever. |
Lederstrumpf
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Posted - 2010.08.07 13:24:00 -
[180]
Originally by: zz01shagsme I might, Will need an xbox first as I am a PC player at heart.
No. Reason see here: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1362951
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.08.07 13:26:00 -
[181]
Originally by: digitalwanderer Such as?....I mean we have FPS games with different classes,specific abilities,different types of weapons and equipement,air vehicles of all types,ground vehicals of all types,all sorts of multiplayer modes too,voice communications,squads and even UAV's and even destructible environments,achievements and special unlocks... So what radical difference can they add that makes their FPS game stand out from others?
Persistence and the sense of accomplishment that comes with it. The same thing that made Planetside special.
Like you said: those are the generic things every shooter has these days, and why none of them count as particularly innovative or interesting. It's what they don't have that matters, and so far, PS is pretty much the only game that has had a successful implementation of persistence. It's also a matter of combinations. Look at Borderlands ù the most derivative game of last year: it made the exact right combination of derivative ideas, and thus created a very unique and immensely fun game out of it. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |
digitalwanderer
Gallente DF0 incorporated
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Posted - 2010.08.07 13:32:00 -
[182]
Originally by: Stitcher
Originally by: digitalwanderer Edited by: digitalwanderer on 07/08/2010 01:38:00
Originally by: Stitcher
Originally by: digitalwanderer The market for FPS games in consoles is pretty full basically.
And? that doesn't mean a product can't be good, it just means it has a harder time standing out from the crowd.
It means having to be pretty much perfect in gameplay,balance and bugs right from the start,even when compared to other FPS games,where the companies that developed those competing titles have already developed 5~10 other FPS games in their history,so they have plenty of experience....Do CCP have that kind of experience...No.
One of the most noticable ones is DICE,who've already got more versions of battlefield(+ expansions),than i have fingers over the past 8 years,starting way back in 2002 with battlefield 1942
Oh ye of little knowing what the hell you're talking about...
Please,explain it to me then,rather than
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digitalwanderer
Gallente DF0 incorporated
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Posted - 2010.08.07 13:37:00 -
[183]
Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: digitalwanderer Such as?....I mean we have FPS games with different classes,specific abilities,different types of weapons and equipement,air vehicles of all types,ground vehicals of all types,all sorts of multiplayer modes too,voice communications,squads and even UAV's and even destructible environments,achievements and special unlocks... So what radical difference can they add that makes their FPS game stand out from others?
Persistence and the sense of accomplishment that comes with it. The same thing that made Planetside special.
Like you said: those are the generic things every shooter has these days, and why none of them count as particularly innovative or interesting. It's what they don't have that matters, and so far, PS is pretty much the only game that has had a successful implementation of persistence. It's also a matter of combinations. Look at Borderlands ù the most derivative game of last year: it made the exact right combination of derivative ideas, and thus created a very unique and immensely fun game out of it.
Persistance in what way?....Do you mean fighting on a specific planet for days or even weeks until somebody wins?
The sense of accomplishment is there with every FPS game that has multiplayer and an opposing team to beat.
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Stitcher
Caldari Lai Dai Infinity Systems
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Posted - 2010.08.07 14:18:00 -
[184]
Originally by: digitalwanderer Persistance in what way?....Do you mean fighting on a specific planet for days or even weeks until somebody wins?
The sense of accomplishment is there with every FPS game that has multiplayer and an opposing team to beat.
"persistence" in the context of MMOG terminology means that once something has been done, it stays done.
EVE has persistence in that ships stay destroyed, sovereignty endures until somebody comes in and takes it from you, ammunition can't be recovered, and all items remain in circulation until they have been deleted, destroyed, or used industrially. missions and exploration aren't persistent: sovereignty is.
in DUST, the persistence will come in the form of battle results not being arbitrarily undone after the fact. if side A wins, then side A has won and the territory they were fighting for control of won't revert to side B's control unless side B re-take it in battle. -
- Verin "Stitcher" Hakatain.
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MatrixSkye Mk2
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.08.07 14:28:00 -
[185]
Persistence: Even when you're not logged in the universe is still changing and affecting you.
Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today! |
Leonard Delmordaine
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Posted - 2010.08.07 15:02:00 -
[186]
Nope... No way in hell will I ever get a game thats CCP related. I am almost ready to quit eve with there sh** customer service.
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Lord Migit
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Posted - 2010.08.07 15:33:00 -
[187]
Only if its on PC.
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TheLordofAllandNothing
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.08.07 16:14:00 -
[188]
If theres a PC port i might be persuaded, other than that, **** no.
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digitalwanderer
Gallente DF0 incorporated
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Posted - 2010.08.07 16:33:00 -
[189]
Originally by: Stitcher Edited by: Stitcher on 07/08/2010 14:29:52
Originally by: digitalwanderer Persistance in what way?....Do you mean fighting on a specific planet for days or even weeks until somebody wins?
The sense of accomplishment is there with every FPS game that has multiplayer and an opposing team to beat.
"persistence" in the context of MMOG terminology means that once something has been done, it stays done.
in DUST, the persistence will come in the form of battle results not being arbitrarily undone after the fact. if side A wins, then side A has won and the territory they were fighting for control of won't revert to side B's control unless side B re-take it in battle.
And that's any different from any multiplayer based game,with 2 opposing teams and running domination mode where there's several checkpoints to conquer within the map,control of those multiple points varies all the time between both teams until either side wins,be it by points accumulated or time running out.
It's been done already in multiple FPS games basically and is nothing new....Persistance has to be something else in the case of Dust,perhaps control of that territory not being able to be challenged for certain amount of time once a team has won it(a day,a week,whatever),but then,it becomes a game involving timers,and there's too much of that already going on in eve itself,never mind doing the same for Dust.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.08.07 16:38:00 -
[190]
Edited by: Tippia on 07/08/2010 16:41:38
Originally by: digitalwanderer And that's any different from any multiplayer based game,with 2 opposing teams and running domination mode where there's several checkpoints to conquer within the map,control of those multiple points varies all the time between both teams until either side wins,be it by points accumulated or time running out.
Yes. Nothing you did has any relevance 5 minutes later, much less tomorrow or a month from now: after the match is over, the map is reset and nothing you did ever mattered. This is not persistence, it's just a match ù that's why you talk about "points" or "time running out". Persistent combat has neither.
Quote: It's been done already in multiple FPS games basically and is nothing new....
No. It has been done once: in Planetside. It was done poorly then, and it was done by SOE (aka Mismanagement'R'Us), and it was still wtfpwnawseome to a degree that those derivative games have no hope in ever achieving, because they lack the fundamental mechanism that makes it possible: persistence.
Quote: Persistance has to be something else in the case of Dust,
No. It just has to be persistence. What you talk about is not it. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |
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Ressiv
Cooperative Freelance Navigators Association
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Posted - 2010.08.07 16:41:00 -
[191]
Originally by: digitalwanderer
And that's any different from any multiplayer based game,with 2 opposing teams and running domination mode where there's several checkpoints to conquer within the map,control of those multiple points varies all the time between both teams until either side wins,be it by points accumulated or time running out.
You then restart the map and go again. So yeah, not persistent.
Persistant FPS is met when you can't 'reset' the game situation to 'start'. In other words, no running this or that map untill you get bored of it and change the map you play.
It will be interesting to see how they solve all maps looking alike tho. ========================== Nothing is true, everything is permitted. ========================== |
Cipher Jones
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.08.07 16:42:00 -
[192]
Originally by: Professor Tarantula I don't even know how consoles still exist since computers became more affordable.
Because people don't know how to use them. They download **** music and movies. They use windows on their PC's. Their Pc's are half as fast as they should be.
I fix computers professionally for a living. I have NEVER ONCE worked on a windows PC w/o malware.
I AM NOT saying YOU do not know how to use YOUR pc. Everyone reading this thread plays EvE and is therefore inherently smarter than "them". Just saying, "they" dont know how to use a PC. This is clearly a signature. |
digitalwanderer
Gallente DF0 incorporated
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Posted - 2010.08.07 23:41:00 -
[193]
Originally by: Tippia Edited by: Tippia on 07/08/2010 16:41:38
Originally by: digitalwanderer And that's any different from any multiplayer based game,with 2 opposing teams and running domination mode where there's several checkpoints to conquer within the map,control of those multiple points varies all the time between both teams until either side wins,be it by points accumulated or time running out.
Yes. Nothing you did has any relevance 5 minutes later, much less tomorrow or a month from now: after the match is over, the map is reset and nothing you did ever mattered. This is not persistence, it's just a match ù that's why you talk about "points" or "time running out". Persistent combat has neither.
Quote: It's been done already in multiple FPS games basically and is nothing new....
No. It has been done once: in Planetside. It was done poorly then, and it was done by SOE (aka Mismanagement'R'Us), and it was still wtfpwnawseome to a degree that those derivative games have no hope in ever achieving, because they lack the fundamental mechanism that makes it possible: persistence.
Quote: Persistance has to be something else in the case of Dust,
No. It just has to be persistence. What you talk about is not it.
So persistance has to involve holding and controling said installations?,meaning a permanent military force stationed there to protect it,until some else is able to either take control or even destroy it?...Does this involve timers until it can be attacked perhaps?
Don't just say the word persistance without giving an example on how it would be able to be applied to an FPS shooter,involve EVE the MMO in some way,and please the console crowd at the same time,which aren't known to be patient like people who play EVE itself.
Details people,details....
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Djavo
Saiyans United death from above..
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Posted - 2010.08.08 00:04:00 -
[194]
I'm with the PC Crowd, not interested in consoles, if they made a PC version then yes I would give it a go.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.08.08 00:32:00 -
[195]
Originally by: digitalwanderer So persistance has to involve holding and controling said installations?
No. It has to involve a world that exists separate to the players that inhabit it ù a world that never ends, or gets reset.
Quote: Don't just say the word persistance without giving an example on how it would be able to be applied to an FPS shooter,involve EVE the MMO in some way
Again, Planetside is the prime example. Describing it takes longer than the 4k character limit on these postsà
Consider how sovereignty works in EVE, and imagine it being fought over in an infantry/air/ground vehicle FPS instead of using spaceships. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |
Marlona Sky
D00M. Excessum Messor
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Posted - 2010.08.08 00:37:00 -
[196]
Originally by: LittleTerror Edited by: LittleTerror on 07/08/2010 04:05:39 If a PC version comes YES if not no, I hate consoles and all the little gimps that play on them.
Originally by: Running missions shooters are meant for consoles, so if it is on 360 and doesnt suck i will get it
Erm no... If you mean FPS shooters then a keyboard with mouse aiming is vastly superior.
So because you suck at FPS on a console you decree that a PC FPS is better than one on a console? It is a matter of preference. But I am sure you will argue this till you are blue in the face.
I have this feeling that you are mad because you will not be able to use an aim-bot for this game. Don't worry, at least you have planetary interaction. So get to double clicking!
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digitalwanderer
Gallente DF0 incorporated
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Posted - 2010.08.08 00:41:00 -
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Edited by: digitalwanderer on 08/08/2010 00:42:12
Originally by: Tippia No. It has to involve a world that exists separate to the players that inhabit it ù a world that never ends, or gets reset.
Then what significant role will a mercenary play in Dust 514 when in combat?....Simply conquer or destroy an installation and his/her actions having no effect beyond that point?
Doesn't sound anything special if that's the case.
Quote: Again, Planetside is the prime example. Describing it takes longer than the 4k character limit on these postsà
Consider how sovereignty works in EVE, and imagine it being fought over in an infantry/air/ground vehicle FPS instead of using spaceships.
With the timers and worrying about stront levels like it is with sovereignty with eve and POS bashing?....That'll go well with the console crowd when they have to wake up at some insane hour to destroy/disable/conquer something.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.08.08 00:50:00 -
[198]
Originally by: digitalwanderer Then what significant role will a mercenary play in Dust 514 when in combat?....Simply conquer or destroy an installation and his/her actions having no effect beyond that point?
Doesn't sound anything special if that's the case.
What would it be like if DE Dust remained exploded and gone for ever once the terrorists manage to win? The significance of the mercs is that their target is gone. Poof. Beyond that point, some poor guy has to plunk down hard-earned ISK to replace it.
What significant role does the fleet that wipes out NOL- play?
Quote: With the timers and worrying about stront levels like it is with sovereignty with eve and POS bashing?....That'll go well with the console crowd when they have to wake up at some insane hour to destroy/disable/conquer something.
No, that was a simile to how Planetside worked, and it did work on a different time scale. Best-case, a base take-over took 15 minutesà
àbest-case rarely happened.
/me gets nasty Vanu-owned interlink lagsher-spam backdoor flashbacks. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |
Sajad
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Posted - 2010.08.08 00:50:00 -
[199]
NO
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Stitcher
Caldari Lai Dai Infinity Systems
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Posted - 2010.08.08 00:51:00 -
[200]
Edited by: Stitcher on 08/08/2010 00:53:19
Originally by: digitalwanderer Don't just say the word persistance without giving an example on how it would be able to be applied to an FPS shooter, involve EVE the MMO in some way,and please the console crowd at the same time, which aren't known to be patient like people who play EVE itself.
hah! EVE players are patient are they? So this forum full of whining brats who are demanding this, that or the other to happen RIGHT NOW IVE ALREADY QUIT BECAUSE CCP HATES US IM JUST COMPLAINING CAUSE I DONT WANT TO WASTE MY REMAINING SUBSCRIPTION WAAAAAAAAA..
*ahem*
so the general loudmouthed, sullen, childish attitude of this forum since Tyrannis came out is wholly the product of patient, balanced people who are prepared to rationally educate themselves of all the salient facts before they reach a conclusion, is it?
Don't generalise. the "console crowd" does not exclusively consist of instant-gratification prats with the attention span of an ADHD kid who's been given too much sugar. Nor does the "PC crowd" or even the EVE community, as evidenced by this very forum (or even this very thread), consist of exclusively reasonable, well-adjusted, level-headed, patient adults.
Given that even the most conservative estimate I could find during a quick Google search placed consoles at about 66% of the games market, I'd say it's a bit bloody elitist of you to assume that because you're a PC gamer, you're part of some glorious master race. Millions and millions of people play games on console. A great many, like me, play on both console AND PC. Most of those millions of people are going to be average human beings, and I tend to believe that the AVERAGE human being is okay. It's individual persons who make me wax misanthropic.
Within those millions are going to be a demographic for whom DUST is just right. Clearly, none of those people are present here, and more power to them. I've had cause to question why I bother to pollute my sanity by visiting this board every day. At least the people who aren't going to get it because they don't own a console and don't feel they can afford one have a valid excuse. Everyone else seems to be holding out from either spite ("NO CAUSE CCP SUK"), willful elitism ("NO CAUSE CONSOLES SUK"), or ignorance ("NO CAUSE ITS NOT THE MOST SUPER SHINY ORIGINAL PERFECT THING EVER!").
Anyway for God's sake man, go play Planetside. It's free, and if we're very fortunate you might walk away from it with something resembling a clue. go ahead, we'll wait. Right now, you simply aren't equipped to be debating persistence in MMOs because it's clear to anyone who actually understands the subject that you don't have the first freaking idea.
but, in the interests of maybe educating you: No, persistence does NOT mean having to leave a permanent garrison force of players. Nullsec alliances don't have to leave permanent garrison forces in place to defend their territory.
Persistence means that whatever you do stays done, and will never be arbitrarily undone by non-player influence. This is not true for, say, Team Fortress 2 where a cosmic reset button gets pressed at the end of the round. In Planetside, this translated to "we took a base. this base is now ours and will remain so until such time as somebody successfully evicts us." There's no point where one game session or "round" ends and another begins - the whole war, all the combat and character progression and general melee, it's all one continuous play session.
That's how it is with EVE, and that is how it will be with DUST. -
- Verin "Stitcher" Hakatain.
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digitalwanderer
Gallente DF0 incorporated
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Posted - 2010.08.08 00:57:00 -
[201]
Originally by: Tippia What would it be like if DE Dust remained exploded and gone for ever once the terrorists manage to win? The significance of the mercs is that their target is gone. Poof. Beyond that point, some poor guy has to plunk down hard-earned ISK to replace it.
Considering that PI makes crap for money at least in high sec(about 2 million a day per PI installation),the loss of such PI installation is peanuts for most eve players,which i mentioned in an earlier post BTW.
Quote: What significant role does the fleet that wipes out NOL- play?
0.0 system with a station already in it,access to high value NPC spawns and asteroid belts for mining,and once a TCU installed and hub fully upgraded to lvl 5,access to extremely high value anomalies to the point of making well over 100 million isk an hour.....It far outstrips the money made with PI in an enourmous way,a night and day difference really.
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digitalwanderer
Gallente DF0 incorporated
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Posted - 2010.08.08 01:01:00 -
[202]
Originally by: Stitcher Edited by: Stitcher on 08/08/2010 00:53:19
Originally by: digitalwanderer Don't just say the word persistance without giving an example on how it would be able to be applied to an FPS shooter, involve EVE the MMO in some way,and please the console crowd at the same time, which aren't known to be patient like people who play EVE itself.
hah! EVE players are patient are they? So this forum full of whining brats who are demanding this, that or the other to happen RIGHT NOW IVE ALREADY QUIT BECAUSE CCP HATES US IM JUST COMPLAINING CAUSE I DONT WANT TO WASTE MY REMAINING SUBSCRIPTION WAAAAAAAAA..
*ahem*
so the general loudmouthed, sullen, childish attitude of this forum since Tyrannis came out is wholly the product of patient, balanced people who are prepared to rationally educate themselves of all the salient facts before they reach a conclusion, is it?
Don't generalise. the "console crowd" does not exclusively consist of instant-gratification prats with the attention span of an ADHD kid who's been given too much sugar. Nor does the "PC crowd" or even the EVE community, as evidenced by this very forum (or even this very thread), consist of exclusively reasonable, well-adjusted, level-headed, patient adults.
Given that even the most conservative estimate I could find during a quick Google search placed consoles at about 66% of the games market, I'd say it's a bit bloody elitist of you to assume that because you're a PC gamer, you're part of some glorious master race. Millions and millions of people play games on console. A great many, like me, play on both console AND PC. Most of those millions of people are going to be average human beings, and I tend to believe that the AVERAGE human being is okay. It's individual persons who make me wax misanthropic.
Within those millions are going to be a demographic for whom DUST is just right. Clearly, none of those people are present here, and more power to them. I've had cause to question why I bother to pollute my sanity by visiting this board every day. At least the people who aren't going to get it because they don't own a console and don't feel they can afford one have a valid excuse. Everyone else seems to be holding out from either spite ("NO CAUSE CCP SUK"), willful elitism ("NO CAUSE CONSOLES SUK"), or ignorance ("NO CAUSE ITS NOT THE MOST SUPER SHINY ORIGINAL PERFECT THING EVER!").
Anyway for God's sake man, go play Planetside. It's free, and if we're very fortunate you might walk away from it with something resembling a clue. go ahead, we'll wait. Right now, you simply aren't equipped to be debating persistence in MMOs because it's clear to anyone who actually understands the subject that you don't have the first freaking idea.
but, in the interests of maybe educating you: No, persistence does NOT mean having to leave a permanent garrison force of players. Nullsec alliances don't have to leave permanent garrison forces in place to defend their territory.
Persistence means that whatever you do stays done, and will never be arbitrarily undone by non-player influence. This is not true for, say, Team Fortress 2 where a cosmic reset button gets pressed at the end of the round. In Planetside, this translated to "we took a base. this base is now ours and will remain so until such time as somebody successfully evicts us." There's no point where one game session or "round" ends and another begins - the whole war, all the combat and character progression and general melee, it's all one continuous play session.
That's how it is with EVE, and that is how it will be with DUST.
I'll keep it short then....I've been playing eve for 7 years now,so patience is my middle name here.
But i will happily agree with you that there are a lot of brats in eve as it is,when most don't realise this is a long term game by it's very design.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.08.08 01:04:00 -
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Originally by: digitalwanderer Considering that PI makes crap for money at least in high sec(about 2 million a day per PI installation),the loss of such PI installation is peanuts for most eve players,which i mentioned in an earlier post BTW.
You missed the point: the significance is that they made an impact on the world. That world is now radically different than it was before.
Quote: 0.0 system with a station already in it,access to high value NPC spawns and asteroid belts for mining,and once a TCU installed and hub fully upgraded to lvl 5,access to extremely high value anomalies to the point of making well over 100 million isk an hour.
àand the same goes here: the significance is that the world has been irrevocably changed. It will stay in this new state until someone comes along and changes it again.
It's a simile to demonstrate persistence in various games ù not a comparison between EVE playstyles. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |
Stitcher
Caldari Lai Dai Infinity Systems
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Posted - 2010.08.08 01:07:00 -
[204]
Originally by: digitalwanderer I'll keep it short then....I've been playing eve for 7 years now,so patience is my middle name here.
But i will happily agree with you that there are a lot of brats in eve as it is,when most don't realise this is a long term game by it's very design.
Heh, that's a fair response. Especially after the rant I just launched into. -
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digitalwanderer
Gallente DF0 incorporated
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Posted - 2010.08.08 01:07:00 -
[205]
Edited by: digitalwanderer on 08/08/2010 01:11:14 Edited by: digitalwanderer on 08/08/2010 01:07:36
Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: digitalwanderer Considering that PI makes crap for money at least in high sec(about 2 million a day per PI installation),the loss of such PI installation is peanuts for most eve players,which i mentioned in an earlier post BTW.
You missed the point: the significance is that they made an impact on the world. That world is now radically different than it was before.
Quote: 0.0 system with a station already in it,access to high value NPC spawns and asteroid belts for mining,and once a TCU installed and hub fully upgraded to lvl 5,access to extremely high value anomalies to the point of making well over 100 million isk an hour.
àand the same goes here: the significance is that the world has been irrevocably changed. It will stay in this new state until someone comes along and changes it again.
It's a simile to demonstrate persistence in various games ù not a comparison between EVE playstyles.
People here care about money more that the idealogical/social/political/strategic impact said actions have on the overall gameworld.
To encourage people to get involved with Dust 514 from the EVE side of things,the impact on their finances in terms of lost revenue has to be significant for them to bother defending/sending mercenaries to defend their assets....
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.08.08 01:11:00 -
[206]
Originally by: digitalwanderer People here care about money more that the idealogical/social/political/strategic impact said actions have on the overall gameworld.
The nifty thing about persistence is that that the two can be the sameà
àas is the case in EVE, and as can be the case in Dust. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |
MatrixSkye Mk2
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.08.08 01:12:00 -
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Edited by: MatrixSkye Mk2 on 08/08/2010 01:12:28
Originally by: Stitcher hah! EVE players are patient are they? So this forum full of whining brats who are demanding this, that or the other to happen RIGHT NOW RIGHT NOW IT HAS TO HAPPEN RIGHT THIS SECOND NO ITS TOO LATE IVE ALREADY QUIT BECAUSE CCP HATES US IM JUST COMPLAINING CAUSE I DONT WANT TO WASTE MY REMAINING SUBSCRIPTION WAAAAAAAAA..
*ahem*
so the general loudmouthed, sullen, childish attitude of this forum since Tyrannis came out is wholly the product of patient, balanced people who are prepared to rationally educate themselves of all the salient facts before they reach a conclusion, is it?
Don't generalise. the "console crowd" does not exclusively consist of instant-gratification prats with the attention span of an ADHD kid who's been given too much sugar. Nor does the "PC crowd" or even the EVE community, as evidenced by this very forum (or even this very thread), consist of exclusively reasonable, well-adjusted, level-headed, patient adults.
Given that even the most conservative estimate I could find during a quick Google search placed consoles at about 66% of the games market, I'd say it's a bit bloody elitist of you to assume that because you're a PC gamer, you're part of some glorious master race. Millions and millions of people play games on console. A great many, like me, play on both console AND PC. Most of those millions of people are going to be average human beings, and I tend to believe that the AVERAGE human being is okay. It's individual persons who make me wax misanthropic.
Within those millions are going to be a demographic for whom DUST is just right. Clearly, none of those people are present here, and more power to them. I've had cause to question why I bother to pollute my sanity by visiting this board every day. At least the people who aren't going to get it because they don't own a console and don't feel they can afford one have a valid excuse. Everyone else seems to be holding out from either spite ("NO CAUSE CCP SUK"), willful elitism ("NO CAUSE CONSOLES SUK"), or ignorance ("NO CAUSE ITS NOT THE MOST SUPER SHINY ORIGINAL PERFECT THING EVER!").
Anyway for God's sake man, go play Planetside. It's free, and if we're very fortunate you might walk away from it with something resembling a clue. go ahead, we'll wait. Right now, you simply aren't equipped to be debating persistence in MMOs because it's clear to anyone who actually understands the subject that you don't have the first freaking idea.
but, in the interests of maybe educating you: No, persistence does NOT mean having to leave a permanent garrison force of players. Nullsec alliances don't have to leave permanent garrison forces in place to defend their territory.
Persistence means that whatever you do stays done, and will never be arbitrarily undone by non-player influence. This is not true for, say, Team Fortress 2 where a cosmic reset button gets pressed at the end of the round. In Planetside, this translated to "we took a base. this base is now ours and will remain so until such time as somebody successfully evicts us." There's no point where one game session or "round" ends and another begins - the whole war, all the combat and character progression and general melee, it's all one continuous play session.
That's how it is with EVE, and that is how it will be with DUST.
This could not have been said any better. Very well done.
Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today! |
Stitcher
Caldari Lai Dai Infinity Systems
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Posted - 2010.08.08 01:15:00 -
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well it's hard to comment yet becase A) PI isn't finished and is in the pipeline to have more done to it and B) we don't know how much DUST corps will expect to be paid in. I can't imagine that it'll be much by the standards of an EVE player. What's a crate of assault rifles worth relative to the value of a battlecruiser?
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digitalwanderer
Gallente DF0 incorporated
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Posted - 2010.08.08 01:20:00 -
[209]
Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: digitalwanderer People here care about money more that the idealogical/social/political/strategic impact said actions have on the overall gameworld.
The nifty thing about persistence is that that the two can be the sameà
àas is the case in EVE, and as can be the case in Dust.
Then the amount of money that can be made by having installations on the planet surface has to increase drastically from where it is now,and has to apply all over the eve map,meaning high sec,low sec,0.0 and even sleeper space,in other for eve player to bother spending money defending them.
Otherwise,Dust 514 lives in it's own universe where installations are set up and defended/attacked with no actual EVE player intervention at all....It's basically it's own game,even though Dust 514 players know it's run as part of the eve universe.
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MatrixSkye Mk2
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.08.08 01:25:00 -
[210]
Edited by: MatrixSkye Mk2 on 08/08/2010 01:26:28 Yeah. It's just facepalm watching people argue **** they obviously just don't know. Hell, this guy doesn't even know what persistence is and is "debating" about it. The same goes with Incarna and DUST. No one knows much but it doesn't stop a loud-mouthed minority in critisizing and knocking on it. And they don't have the patience to let CCP first develop it and once it's ready give us more details of what they have. No. They act like they're investors and CCP OWES them a business plan and business strategy like YESTERDAY! And if CCP doesn't give them that business plan now or CCP doesn't stop investing their resources in what they personally don't like they're pulling out of the business deal, because their $14.95 is not being invested in what it should .
Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today! |
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digitalwanderer
Gallente DF0 incorporated
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Posted - 2010.08.08 01:31:00 -
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Edited by: digitalwanderer on 08/08/2010 01:39:41
Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2 Yeah. It's just facepalm watching people argue **** they obviously just don't know. Hell, this guy doesn't even know what persistence is and is "debating" about it. The same goes with Incarna and DUST. No one knows much but it doesn't stop a loud-mouthed minority in critisizing and knocking on it. And they don't have the patience to let CCP first develop it and once it's ready give us more details of what they have. No. They act like they're investors and CCP OWES them a business plan and business strategy like YESTERDAY! And if CCP doesn't give them that business plan now or CCP doesn't stop investing their resources in what they personally don't like they're pulling out of the business deal, because they're 14.95 is not being invested in what it should .
Well,over the past 7 years,and on a single account alone,i've already paid 1255$...And if the next 18 months is largely targeted at Dust 514 and incarna,and not so much on EVE itself,that's nearly 270$ out of everyone's wallet,and that's if they have a single account(many have more than 1)....Something to think about right there.
We're at least in part paying for the development of Dust 514 regardless if we like it or not,or will even play it at all..
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digitalwanderer
Gallente DF0 incorporated
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Posted - 2010.08.08 04:28:00 -
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Kinda changes things when 270$ is being paid over the next 18 months,and a good portion of that is likely for an FPS game that won't even be released for PC's at all,and details about it are pretty thin at this point and many in this very thread said they're not going to play it anyhow...Irony at it's best right there.
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Pr1ncess Alia
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Posted - 2010.08.08 04:54:00 -
[213]
That's a negative ghostrider
--- Players are losing faith and loyalty in CCP due previous expansions not living up to player expectations. The CSM and CCP agreed that expectation management can be improved |
Memphis Raines
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Posted - 2010.08.08 08:13:00 -
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I have a PS3. Even IF they release it on that platform I will absolutely not buy it. I refuse to play shooters on subpar controls.
If it comes out on PC, however, I'll probably be all over it.
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altimush
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Posted - 2010.08.09 13:01:00 -
[215]
ah fps game linked to eve online, hell yes
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Lord Arrakis
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Posted - 2010.08.09 13:11:00 -
[216]
I am a pc gamer Get off your high horses idiots, the world has changed. Let's see how many of you boyos last one whole round in multiplayer DUST...
So...HELL YEAH I'll be playing this game
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Branwulf Dashiva
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Posted - 2010.08.09 13:38:00 -
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Edited by: Branwulf Dashiva on 09/08/2010 13:38:54 In my opinion DUST could be insanely good if it managed to re-create the epicness of Planetside, which is, in my opinion the best and only really successful MMOFPS. Slap some shiney graphics on it, EVEify it and you have win, seeing as SOE are too busy with their F2P junk they probably won't get round to it themselves.
The real problem is the console only business, i own a 360, PS3 and a high end PC so it's not like i couldn've play it, but CCP have build a fanbase on the PC not consoles, and also i just don't believe that the game can really work as a real MMO with all the red tape of Microsoft and Sony, not to mention console 'people' won't react well to an addition subscription over Xbox Live, i once tried to play Phantasy Star Online/Universe and well, they weren't great, and there's a reason that FFXIV isn't announced for the 360 yet (if ever) although FFVI was, because it wasn't really successful.
I have the same fear for DUST as i do for Battlefield 3, a PC game on consoles gets less work as it needs to be ported and all sorts of other issues, resulting in a inferior end product.
That aside i'd definantly try the game as i'm an avid FPS player (not CoD urgh).
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uNtOldPAIN
Minmatar Covert-Nexus
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Posted - 2010.08.09 13:42:00 -
[218]
No. I don't console.
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HottyChick
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Posted - 2010.08.09 13:50:00 -
[219]
Originally by: Steintz no! never!
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HottyChick
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Posted - 2010.08.09 14:01:00 -
[220]
If it comes out on PC than maybe I will try it but if not than I wont even look at it, why ccp wants it on console?. Like someone already said ccp built database on PC users-eve online only. So why now telling us ''if u wanna play dust buy fking console''? lol
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Bartholomeus Crane
Gallente The Crane Family
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Posted - 2010.08.09 14:08:00 -
[221]
Originally by: HottyChick
Originally by: Steintz no! never!
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zz01shagsme
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Posted - 2010.08.09 14:34:00 -
[222]
i thought this one died a long a death but it seems to have kept going LOL
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.08.09 14:51:00 -
[223]
Originally by: HottyChick why ccp wants it on console?. Like someone already said ccp built database on PC users-eve online only. So why now telling us ''if u wanna play dust buy fking console''? lol
Because you're not the target audience. You already play EVE ù they already have your money.
They're after console gamers. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |
Betray
Caldari Penetrating Influence
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Posted - 2010.08.09 15:37:00 -
[224]
yes! well... maybe after 18 month ofc |
Baeryn
22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit
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Posted - 2010.08.09 15:41:00 -
[225]
Call me insane, but I literally purchased a 360 specifically for DUST. I am still eagerly awaiting any news about DUST (or its beta program ) Role Playing Games by RolePlayGateway
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1344247EVE UserVoice: A Supplement to the CSM[/ur |
Bucky O'Hair
Minmatar Valklear Guard
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Posted - 2010.08.09 15:45:00 -
[226]
No, I don't do console games. If I did, I wouldn't try Dust, I mean, seriously, EVE is sometimes unplayable due to lag, can you imagine playing a FPS with this amount of lag? What's that CCP, you promise to fix lag before dust comes out...
uh, yeah, if you say so...
Bucky O'Hair
"If it flys it dies!"
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Kestrix
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Posted - 2010.08.09 15:49:00 -
[227]
I have always seen myself as a PC gamer and looked down upon anyone playing on a consol. That said I've now got an Xbox 360 and a stack of FPS games and I'm loving it and can't wait for dust to come out. Playing on an Xbox 360 is not as bad as many 'PC players' claim it is. I suggest that people actually try something before knocking it. |
SephiriotH
LIGHTS 0UT Rebellion Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.09 16:16:00 -
[228]
No, unless it will be PC version. Port on PC will be treated as fail by default.
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Whiny McEmokid
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Posted - 2010.08.09 16:18:00 -
[229]
if CCP buy me an x-box I'll consider it.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.09 17:01:00 -
[230]
Originally by: Bucky O'Hair No, I don't do console games. If I did, I wouldn't try Dust, I mean, seriously, EVE is sometimes unplayable due to lag, can you imagine playing a FPS with this amount of lag? What's that CCP, you promise to fix lag before dust comes out...
uh, yeah, if you say so...
I wish ccp would fix fleet fights so we could be spared all this terribly ineffective cheap shot poasting from the juvi hall.
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Menkaure
Amarr LEM0N
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Posted - 2010.08.09 17:10:00 -
[231]
Yes, I will. I have a 360, I have a xbox live, I do occasionally game on the 360. My laptop used to be good enough for fps's, but isn't for the newest ones so I tend to buy on 360. They're not so bad once you get used to controls.
However, I'd much rather get it on the PC. (and hell, I might have a new one by then and be able to run it)
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Nika Dekaia
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Posted - 2010.08.09 17:15:00 -
[232]
I don't own a console and I despise console shooters - so no.
I still hope though, that CCPs concept of getting ADHD consoleros actually hooked to a certain game with a persisten MMOFPS with an actual meaning to what and how much stuff you shoot.
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JonnyRandom
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Posted - 2010.08.09 17:23:00 -
[233]
The game itself does not seem bad. You've got vehicles that can be set-up pseudo-eve style with modules and stuff, and it looks like it's going to be a big map with many strategic objectives like Battlefield 1942. So the gameplay does seem very interesting, however like most people here I don't own any consoles. If it ever came out on the PC, I'd snatch it up and give it a good try.
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Little Tigerlilly
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Posted - 2010.08.09 18:11:00 -
[234]
Most likely yes. I don't think they've shown enough gameplay to know exactly how things are going to match up but I like the idea of another game affecting things about this one.
I look forward to a beta!
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Crewman Jenkins
Caldari Malicious Demi-Lancers
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Posted - 2010.08.09 18:12:00 -
[235]
I'm a PC snob. So, no.
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picchiatello
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Posted - 2010.08.09 18:40:00 -
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NO . for 2 reason : 1) not got xbox and won't buy one for play just Dust. I hate consoles
2) ccp should improve EVE and then work on Dust while accoring to dev blog and other posts many DEV are work on DUST/ INCARNA/ secondary goal while they should concentrate on primary GOAL
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Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
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Posted - 2010.08.09 19:26:00 -
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Edited by: Darek Castigatus on 09/08/2010 19:28:11
Originally by: picchiatello NO . for 2 reason : 1) not got xbox and won't buy one for play just Dust. I hate consoles
2) ccp should improve EVE and then work on Dust while accoring to dev blog and other posts many DEV are work on DUST/ INCARNA/ secondary goal while they should concentrate on primary GOAL
1)Fair enough, you dont like a particular console thats your own choice.
2)WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG!! CCP is a games company, that means one of the things they do is MAKE GAMES!!. DUST is a chance to massively expand their potential customer base alongside further developing their existing IP, Incarna gives them a big leg up on a possible future earner in WOD online as well as allowing them to again expand their customer base and once again further develope their existing IP,why the hell would they not allocate the resources to take advantage of these opportunities??
Yes eve has issues and yes CCPs communication has been subpar but the issues are being addressed, as much as the alt army forum whiners would try to convince you otherwise. Personally i WANT to see DUST, i WANT to see incarna because i WANT to see the effect they have on the eve universe. And if the price to see that is that Eve doesnt have as many people working on it as a bunch of loudmouthed forum whiners think it should then so be it.
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Little Tigerlilly
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Posted - 2010.08.09 19:57:00 -
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I can't wait to see how they use the eve ships in the game. I'm thinking of a battle raging on the ground and up in the sky you see a massive Raven and Megathron blasting the crap out of each other. And occasionally the ships fire down at the ground. (kill streak type reward?) Predator missile would be fired from the Raven, C130 artillery would be fired from the megathron.
I want more details on how this is going to work. I want to be able to invade planets and destroy peoples planet installations!
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MissyDark
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Posted - 2010.08.09 20:19:00 -
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I bought a PS3 as a media center. For gaming it is only good for guitar hero and gran turismo. Gamepad fails as a controller for fps games, so no way I'm going to waste time playing dust 123. Unless it comes out on PC then deffo yes.
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Hakaru Ishiwara
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2010.08.09 20:23:00 -
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When DUST is released for the PC AND when it stops looking like a slightly updated version of the 7+ year old Planetside title, then maybe it will merit a look.
Otherwise, why?
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Barakkus
Caelestis Iudicium
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Posted - 2010.08.09 22:55:00 -
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Originally by: Khors Mass Effect 2 started lagging up and doing about .5 fps on the main menu, I just gave up as I've completed it anyway and played the first one instead. Tried a few tips I googled without success and felt unwilling to turn off the CPU shutdown as someone suggested.
That probably happened b/c your video card isn't supported. I had to dig deep into their knowledgebase to find out my card wasn't supported, even though very, very similar cards were listed as being supported, but no mention of my actual card not working on the specs they listed on direct2drive. D2D gave me a refund.
Originally by: CCP Dropbear
rofl
edit: ah crap, dev account. Oh well, official rofl at you sir.
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Nagomochi Acknan
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Posted - 2010.08.09 22:58:00 -
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I've heard dust is a great food substitute and will help me lose weight.
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London
Gallente Void-Wolf Propter Falco
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Posted - 2010.08.09 23:07:00 -
[243]
This is a loaded question. CCP already said they were going after a completely different crowd than the current Eve population (ergo, not any of you). So it's not surprising to see so many of you saying "no" with all your elitist PC attitudes.
I don't like consoles much either, but given that it's a CCP game set in the Eve universe that also happens to interact with the Eve MMO, I'll keep an open mind and try it out.
So I guess that makes it a "yes".
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Alexandra Delarge
The Korova
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Posted - 2010.08.09 23:23:00 -
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Micro-transactions? No thanks. |
Kireiina
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Posted - 2010.08.10 01:24:00 -
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Would never play dust even if it was out for PC. The chances of it being better than TF2/BC2 are marginal to none.
I will be *fascinated* to see how they attempt to connect Eve and Dust together because I simply cannot see how that can work. Anything that forces Eve players to depend on ADHD console gamers is going to be met with furious resistance. Anything that forces Xbox players to wait on Eve politics before they have targets, or imbalances the battlefield to represent the state of Eve politics, is going to be just as unpopular. It just cannot work unless the connection is so marginal and abstracted it was barely worth doing in the first place.
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Tset Tsun
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Posted - 2010.08.10 02:15:00 -
[246]
No Not on a console. Not on a PC.
I play eve to get away from the kids.
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Constantinus Maximus
Paxian Expeditionary Force
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Posted - 2010.08.10 03:29:00 -
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no
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Urich VonWolfenstein
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Posted - 2010.08.10 03:46:00 -
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im gona just for the hell off it. anyways if god answers my prayers and gives me planetary bombardment it will be more fun watching the slow children get fuked up from the ground view. + i got a over 30 planets colonized and rather do it my self then leaving it up 2 incompetent people.
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Hienz Doofenshmirtz
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Posted - 2010.08.10 04:22:00 -
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will I buy dust HELLS YES, will I kill people HELLS YES, will I have fun no matter what HELLS YES
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2010.08.10 05:26:00 -
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YES! I will buy DUST!!! And I will buy it with extreme prejudice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why?
Because there is so much whining about it, it makes me want to buy it. Makes me want to have a party around it, and show pictures of the party where will have have rum, chicks, and parrots!!! And those whiney neckbeards can read the thread and weep. We might even set off some fire extinguishers!!!!!
As my late dad always said: "F**k 'em".
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SkinSin
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Posted - 2010.08.10 07:59:00 -
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No, I won't buy it. Reason 1) I don't own a console. Reason 2) I don't want to play yet another average to poor FPS...
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Zothike
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2010.08.10 08:32:00 -
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Edited by: Zothike on 10/08/2010 08:33:38 Probably yes and a console too because i dont have one , and only for this game BUT it depends on news and features we will see about it (i dont like already the micro transation idea) If it turn to be like Planetside (more or less) as this mmo i play since 2003 is the most fun mmo i ever played (even if some balance problem)
And what i wait from dust514 that miss in Planetside is to make player "responsible" of what they do or dont (at least for thoses fight that will count in planetary control, because i bet the FW Fps side that will be "instant action" of the game will be a FFA mindless quake full of little kids
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London
Gallente Void-Wolf Propter Falco
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Posted - 2010.08.10 12:27:00 -
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Edited by: London on 10/08/2010 12:27:20
Originally by: SkinSin No, I won't buy it. Reason 1) I don't own a console. Reason 2) I don't want to play yet another average to poor FPS...
Jumping the gun a little aren't you? What makes you assume automatically that it's going to be a "average to poor FPS"? So far what they've shown looked rather impressive compared to other console shooters. And it certainly looks ambitious enough in design to break out of any "average" mold.
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Tony Starmap
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2010.08.10 12:35:00 -
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Dust looks to be fu***ng awsome :D
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Jack Gilligan
Caldari 1st Cavalry Division Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.08.10 12:39:00 -
[255]
Sure, I'll buy DUST, if it's released for the PC or MAC (I have both). I am not buying a console though.
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