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Sjugar
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Posted - 2010.09.09 12:03:00 -
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Originally by: Schalac
Originally by: Lame Sauce
Originally by: Zerrov cloaking 5 huh, I guess no one flies stealth bombers here.
-100% targeting delay after decloaking
lol at you for training cloaking 5 i guess
Cloaking V used to make you move fast while cloaked. It was great for CovOps and SBs to have 5 so you could GTFO. Now it is pointless though because CCP nerfed it.
Unless you fly force recon ships. They still have a targeting delay when uncloaking and higher level of cloaking makes that shorter, the difference between a point or your target buggering off can often be a second or two.
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Pantload
Gallente The Underpants Gnomes Deep Space Engineering
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Posted - 2010.09.09 15:29:00 -
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Originally by: Xenuria
...I am tired of you people posting on the forums and blowing misinformed bull**** chunks all over the dame place...
Is this the most ironically funny thing posted recently? I think so. I snarfed coffee out my nose and almost fell out of my chair.
TUG: The Underpants Gnomes. Buy Corps here
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Awesome Possum
Gallente Isk Relocation Services Stratagem.
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Posted - 2010.09.09 16:22:00 -
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Originally by: Sjugar Electronic Warfare Drone Interfacing V. I wouldn't get this because the bonus of an extra 3k range on top of and already 57 km isn't worth the time imo.
Proud to say I have EW Interfacing 5 and have been accused of loading drone links on my vexor when annoying people off station.
If you're going to use sentries that can hit out past 60km, its nice to have every available KM of range before slapping links on your ship. ♥
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Baneken
Gallente School of the Unseen
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Posted - 2010.09.09 18:44:00 -
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Originally by: Awesome Possum
Originally by: Sjugar Electronic Warfare Drone Interfacing V. I wouldn't get this because the bonus of an extra 3k range on top of and already 57 km isn't worth the time imo.
Proud to say I have EW Interfacing 5 and have been accused of loading drone links on my vexor when annoying people off station.
If you're going to use sentries that can hit out past 60km, its nice to have every available KM of range before slapping links on your ship.
How ever past 80km you have to start putting sensor links on your drone ship so adding extra 3km + 2x drone links (40km) is still rather useless in practise unless you specialise for sentry sniping.
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Awesome Possum
Gallente Isk Relocation Services Stratagem.
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Posted - 2010.09.09 22:47:00 -
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Originally by: Baneken
Originally by: Awesome Possum
Originally by: Sjugar Electronic Warfare Drone Interfacing V. I wouldn't get this because the bonus of an extra 3k range on top of and already 57 km isn't worth the time imo.
Proud to say I have EW Interfacing 5 and have been accused of loading drone links on my vexor when annoying people off station.
If you're going to use sentries that can hit out past 60km, its nice to have every available KM of range before slapping links on your ship.
How ever past 80km you have to start putting sensor links on your drone ship so adding extra 3km + 2x drone links (40km) is still rather useless in practise unless you specialise for sentry sniping.
I agree. an ishtar with 3x drone links and a sebo2 with range script both give you 120km... if you have drone EW 5.
Thank you CCP for neglecting to include sentries with the Ishtar hac bonus
♥
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Drahcir Nasom
Independent Manufacturers Independent Manufacturers Alliance
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Posted - 2010.09.09 23:55:00 -
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OK, so I'm definitely doing something wrong then, from the skills mentioned so far:-
Tactical Shield Manipulation - Got at 5 Electronic Warfare Drone Interfacing - Yep, got that one Ore specialisation - Veld, scord, pyrox, plag, omber, jaspet, kern, hem, hed, all at 5 Jury Rigging - Yep Survey - Tick Rank 3 learning skills - All at 5 Supply Chain Management - Yep Drone Durability - Tick Scientific Networking - Got that one. Afterburner - Yep Daytrading, Biology, Advanced Planetology - Tick, Tick, tick Trade -Yeah Connections - Yep Rockets, Defender Missiles - Both at 5 Advanced Mass Production - Yep
It's a good job I like lvl 5 skills then isn't it :-)) Drahcir Nasom
The only skill I regret training, and I only have it at 4 atm is Margin Trading
Drahcir
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.09.10 08:06:00 -
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Originally by: Awesome Possum Thank you CCP for neglecting to include sentries with the Ishtar hac bonus
àin what way are they neglected? ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |
Viscount Hood
Gallivanting Travel Company
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Posted - 2010.09.10 19:02:00 -
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Edited by: Viscount Hood on 10/09/2010 19:04:14 I'm training Multi-tasking to level 4 atm. Have I made a serious training error?
Drahcir Nasom - very impressive skill sheet
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.09.10 20:09:00 -
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Originally by: Viscount Hood I'm training Multi-tasking to level 4 atm. Have I made a serious training error?
Depends what else you have or plan to train. If you're ever going to sit in a logistics ship, a marauder, orà some other class that eludes me at the moment that also has a max target count of 10, or if you ever plan to go really nuts with some other kind of support ship (Recon, Carrier), you will probably find a use for it.
Regardless, though, to get the 11 targets that skill level gives you, you will need to fit signal amps or auto-targeters ù for most "normal" purposes, level III is enough, and even then, you've moved slightly into specialist territory. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |
Schalac
Caldari Apocalypse Reign
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Posted - 2010.09.10 20:41:00 -
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Originally by: Sjugar
Originally by: Schalac
Originally by: Lame Sauce
Originally by: Zerrov cloaking 5 huh, I guess no one flies stealth bombers here.
-100% targeting delay after decloaking
lol at you for training cloaking 5 i guess
Cloaking V used to make you move fast while cloaked. It was great for CovOps and SBs to have 5 so you could GTFO. Now it is pointless though because CCP nerfed it.
Unless you fly force recon ships. They still have a targeting delay when uncloaking and higher level of cloaking makes that shorter, the difference between a point or your target buggering off can often be a second or two.
Level 4-5 will not make you win or lose a target after uncloaking. And even if you are in a BS you would need like Cloaking 10 for it to even matter. There is no reason at all now to have Cloaking 5. None. When it made your cloaked ships move faster it was great for Cov-Ops and Stealth Bombers. Now it is pointless though. SCHALAC HAS SPOKEN |
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Awesome Possum
Gallente Isk Relocation Services Stratagem.
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Posted - 2010.09.11 14:41:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Awesome Possum Thank you CCP for neglecting to include sentries with the Ishtar hac bonus
àin what way are they neglected?
Heavy Assault Ship Skill Bonus: +5 km bonus to Scout and Heavy Drone operation range and +50 m3 extra Drone Bay space per level.
Sentries are not heavy drones. I'd much rather have an additional 20-25km operation range for my sentries than my heavies. But that's just my opinion. ♥
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.09.11 16:47:00 -
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Originally by: Awesome Possum Heavy Assault Ship Skill Bonus: +5 km bonus to Scout and Heavy Drone operation range and +50 m3 extra Drone Bay space per level.
Sentries get that bonus too. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |
Awesome Possum
Gallente Isk Relocation Services Stratagem.
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Posted - 2010.09.11 21:23:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Awesome Possum Heavy Assault Ship Skill Bonus: +5 km bonus to Scout and Heavy Drone operation range and +50 m3 extra Drone Bay space per level.
Sentries get that bonus too.
Well that's what I get for just reading the skill bonus and not actually testing. ♥
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Dutch Romano
SI Radio
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Posted - 2010.09.11 23:24:00 -
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Originally by: Neliel Soifon
Originally by: Tau Cabalander Deep Core Mining 5 - why are you mining so dang close!
<< the ship which was mining the Mercoxit will always fall within the range of the cloud >>
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Deep_Core_Mining
Well, the full quote is "As the damage cloud will erupt up to 5km from the asteroid, same as the range on the Deep Core Mining Laser itself, the ship which was mining the Mercoxit will always fall within the range of the cloud,"
With just Deep Core Mining 2, a BS miner can use a Modulated Deep Core Mining Laser II at 10km, without a crystal, and get the same yield as the DCML-I, safe and sound.
Training a Rank 6 skill to V to avoid the inconvenience of staying more than 5km off of the Mercoxit 'roid? Not useless, just really, really pointless.
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Noferatu
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Posted - 2010.09.12 10:10:00 -
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Originally by: Schalac Level 4-5 will not make you win or lose a target after uncloaking. And even if you are in a BS you would need like Cloaking 10 for it to even matter. There is no reason at all now to have Cloaking 5. None. When it made your cloaked ships move faster it was great for Cov-Ops and Stealth Bombers. Now it is pointless though.
Cloaking V shaves a full half-second off the delay time for my Cov Ops-fitted Proteus, which I use as a sleeper-tanking point in wormhole anomalies. Not a lot of Drakes or Tengus ever got away before.. but now even less do.
It really depends what you're flying and how you're using it I guess.
And FYI - only Stealth Bombers and Black Ops have zero targeting delay.
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Schalac
Caldari Apocalypse Reign
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Posted - 2010.09.13 23:51:00 -
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Originally by: Noferatu
Originally by: Schalac Level 4-5 will not make you win or lose a target after uncloaking. And even if you are in a BS you would need like Cloaking 10 for it to even matter. There is no reason at all now to have Cloaking 5. None. When it made your cloaked ships move faster it was great for Cov-Ops and Stealth Bombers. Now it is pointless though.
Cloaking V shaves a full half-second off the delay time for my Cov Ops-fitted Proteus, which I use as a sleeper-tanking point in wormhole anomalies. Not a lot of Drakes or Tengus ever got away before.. but now even less do.
It really depends what you're flying and how you're using it I guess.
And FYI - only Stealth Bombers and Black Ops have zero targeting delay.
I was talking about the speed that you used to move with cloaking 5, not the targeting delay. SCHALAC HAS SPOKEN |
Kartissa Elentari
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Posted - 2010.09.14 19:18:00 -
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Edited by: Kartissa Elentari on 14/09/2010 19:25:16
Originally by: AFT3RM4TH
Salvage drone operation V....... wait why did people train it to 1 again? Oh yeah, Most skillpoints in drones, give me your respect!
That's OK. I trained it too, all the way to level 5.... I'm that kind of person, I guess.
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splendidzje
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Posted - 2010.09.19 15:20:00 -
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I have forgot to reply about cloaking V.
It is needed for the mighty CONCORD Cloak!
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ViperLok
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Posted - 2010.09.20 19:00:00 -
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Originally by: Breaker77 Edited by: Breaker77 on 07/08/2010 13:44:38 Scientific networking - Seriously, isn't 20 jumps enough?
Now if that didnt have region related set backs. It might be useful.
Most of the systems Im in you jump 10 to 12 jumps and your out of that region and into another.
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Ugly Eric
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Posted - 2010.09.20 20:44:00 -
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Maybe I take part to this conversation as I'm bored to hell..
Corp mgmt: - Sove V - Starbase mgmt V
Drones: - Adv drone interfacing V
Electronics: - Cloacking V
Mechanic: - Capital Remote Hull Repair sys V (maybe on an pos repping alt)
Missile launcher op: - Defender V - Rocket spec V
Spaceship command - Black ops V, is you fly any other than caldari BOBS
These are mine personal ideas of completely useless skills at V
Eric
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Ugly Eric
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Posted - 2010.09.20 20:51:00 -
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Originally by: splendidzje I have forgot to reply about cloaking V.
It is needed for the mighty CONCORD Cloak!
-offtopic-
Btw. Does the caldari cloack actually exist, or is it some phantom? Couldn't find any of those anywhere
Eric
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Eagle Tarquinas
Gallente Reliables Inc Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.09.21 13:31:00 -
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Caldari cloak is easy to get from the LP store.
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Dred Control
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Posted - 2010.09.21 18:09:00 -
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I have found that Level 5 Tiddlywinks is completely useless. Maybe when Incarna rolls out, they will buff it.
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Capt Wulfrunian
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.09.21 18:23:00 -
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I would avoid Drone Sharpshooting level V I don't realize the real effectivness of that skill, you just put your drones in the optimal range of your targets ..
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Aerilis
Gallente Percussive Diplomacy
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Posted - 2010.09.21 20:37:00 -
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Originally by: Capt Wulfrunian Edited by: Capt Wulfrunian on 21/09/2010 19:32:30 I would avoid Drone Sharpshooting level V I don't realize the real effectivness of that skill, it just puts your drones in the optimal range of your targets ..
Sentry drones bro
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Xai Rayna
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Posted - 2010.09.22 07:11:00 -
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Originally by: Capt Wulfrunian Edited by: Capt Wulfrunian on 21/09/2010 19:32:30 I would avoid Drone Sharpshooting level V I don't realize the real effectivness of that skill, it just puts your drones in the optimal range of your targets ..
Sentry Drones, and it's a rank 1 skill. Should only be 3-4 days after learning skills/implants. That time investment is nothing. It is definitely not a waste of time.
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Zaerlorth Maelkor
The Maverick Navy IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.09.22 08:42:00 -
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Originally by: Capt Wulfrunian Edited by: Capt Wulfrunian on 21/09/2010 19:32:30 I would avoid Drone Sharpshooting level V I don't realize the real effectivness of that skill, it just puts your drones in the optimal range of your targets ..
lol You might want to delete this post before too many people read it. However, you might want to consider a few things, first of all; I now have one of those annoying sigs. second; you should probably move on to some more interesting things than reading this sig.
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Capt Wulfrunian
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.09.22 11:41:00 -
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It is useful for Sentries only, it puts your normal drones farther and allows your enemy to shoot them down more easily. Google drone sharpshooting skill and look at how many points of view about it there are, I am not the only one. |
Baneken
Gallente School of the Unseen
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Posted - 2010.09.22 12:58:00 -
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Originally by: Capt Wulfrunian It is useful for Sentries only, it puts your normal drones farther and allows your enemy to shoot them down more easily. Google drone sharpshooting skill and look at how many points of view about it there are, I am not the only one.
Maybe you should look what transversial velocity does to turret tracking with targets in close orbit and fast speed. Just because missiles ignore tracking doesn't mean that turrets do.
http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sigs.html |
Shootmenot dammit
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Posted - 2010.09.23 15:45:00 -
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Originally by: Capt Wulfrunian Edited by: Capt Wulfrunian on 21/09/2010 19:32:30 I would avoid Drone Sharpshooting level V I don't realize the real effectivness of that skill, it just puts your drones in the optimal range of your targets ..
Even if this wasn't essentially wrong, it would still suit me.
People trying to shoot my drones are not shooting at me, and I can play silly buggers with them (and the drones).
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