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Sticky Vicky	Posted - 2004.12.22 18:57:00 - [1] I was enjoying fighting you guys, next to no smack and more importantly a willingness to fight. However it would appear that after realising there was going to be no "cheap ganks" you turn to lame ass exploits to steal our ships, seeing as you cant destroy them the traditional way? Now im hoping this is not a sign of things to come, Valrandir is not the only one who knows some of the "dirty bastard tactics" in eve. Makes me laugh how a "merc" corp 6 times our size has to resort to exploiting to avenge the loss of their ships... Very lame indeed. Funny how the exploiter has yet to show himself on the battlefield since the declaration of this war.
Sticky Vicky	Posted - 2004.12.22 18:57:00 - [2] I was enjoying fighting you guys, next to no smack and more importantly a willingness to fight. However it would appear that after realising there was going to be no "cheap ganks" you turn to lame ass exploits to steal our ships, seeing as you cant destroy them the traditional way? Now im hoping this is not a sign of things to come, Valrandir is not the only one who knows some of the "dirty bastard tactics" in eve. Makes me laugh how a "merc" corp 6 times our size has to resort to exploiting to avenge the loss of their ships... Very lame indeed. Funny how the exploiter has yet to show himself on the battlefield since the declaration of this war.
Palitir	Posted - 2004.12.22 19:38:00 - [3] We are enjoying fighting you too. We warped to your PoS in a frigates, which we then didn't get shot at by the sentries. We tested it numerous times to make sure it wasnt just a one time thing, and we came to the conclusion that you didn't fuel it since it had shot at us the day before, and when you came online it was back to shooting us so you mush have re-fueled it. No exploit. Sorry about your Badger MkII. Now lets take this to Eve-Mail and not the forums. ============================ . OMGBUHU I am teh one with wierd setups.
Palitir	Posted - 2004.12.22 19:38:00 - [4] We are enjoying fighting you too. We warped to your PoS in a frigates, which we then didn't get shot at by the sentries. We tested it numerous times to make sure it wasnt just a one time thing, and we came to the conclusion that you didn't fuel it since it had shot at us the day before, and when you came online it was back to shooting us so you mush have re-fueled it. No exploit. Sorry about your Badger MkII. Now lets take this to Eve-Mail and not the forums. ============================ . OMGBUHU I am teh one with wierd setups.
Perssephone	Posted - 2004.12.22 19:49:00 - [5] Badger Mk2, i dont appear to have the concorde kill mail for that. not the only thing odd about your answer. The fuel situation never came into it as has almost a weeks worth. I know what you did, you know what you did, your corpmates know what you did. Totally Lame..
Perssephone	Posted - 2004.12.22 19:49:00 - [6] Badger Mk2, i dont appear to have the concorde kill mail for that. not the only thing odd about your answer. The fuel situation never came into it as has almost a weeks worth. I know what you did, you know what you did, your corpmates know what you did. Totally Lame..
Mac Knife	Posted - 2004.12.22 19:55:00 - [7] Originally by: Sticky Vicky I was enjoying fighting you guys, next to no smack and more importantly a willingness to fight. However it would appear that after realising there was going to be no "cheap ganks" you turn to lame ass exploits to steal our ships, seeing as you cant destroy them the traditional way? Now im hoping this is not a sign of things to come, Valrandir is not the only one who knows some of the "dirty bastard tactics" in eve. Makes me laugh how a "merc" corp 6 times our size has to resort to exploiting to avenge the loss of their ships... Very lame indeed. Funny how the exploiter has yet to show himself on the battlefield since the declaration of this war. how did they steal your ships? if they found your safestops and lifted them, good on them for finding them and sux to u for using safespots so explain the exploit to the public plz so then we can judge, if it turns out to be your own stupidity then tough ****
Mac Knife	Posted - 2004.12.22 19:55:00 - [8] Originally by: Sticky Vicky I was enjoying fighting you guys, next to no smack and more importantly a willingness to fight. However it would appear that after realising there was going to be no "cheap ganks" you turn to lame ass exploits to steal our ships, seeing as you cant destroy them the traditional way? Now im hoping this is not a sign of things to come, Valrandir is not the only one who knows some of the "dirty bastard tactics" in eve. Makes me laugh how a "merc" corp 6 times our size has to resort to exploiting to avenge the loss of their ships... Very lame indeed. Funny how the exploiter has yet to show himself on the battlefield since the declaration of this war. how did they steal your ships? if they found your safestops and lifted them, good on them for finding them and sux to u for using safespots so explain the exploit to the public plz so then we can judge, if it turns out to be your own stupidity then tough ****
Dianabolic	Posted - 2004.12.22 19:59:00 - [9] Hi mum! \o/
Dianabolic	Posted - 2004.12.22 19:59:00 - [10] Hi mum! \o/
Sticky Vicky	Posted - 2004.12.22 19:59:00 - [11] Originally by: Mac Knife Originally by: Sticky Vicky I was enjoying fighting you guys, next to no smack and more importantly a willingness to fight. However it would appear that after realising there was going to be no "cheap ganks" you turn to lame ass exploits to steal our ships, seeing as you cant destroy them the traditional way? Now im hoping this is not a sign of things to come, Valrandir is not the only one who knows some of the "dirty bastard tactics" in eve. Makes me laugh how a "merc" corp 6 times our size has to resort to exploiting to avenge the loss of their ships... Very lame indeed. Funny how the exploiter has yet to show himself on the battlefield since the declaration of this war. how did they steal your ships? if they found your safestops and lifted them, good on them for finding them and sux to u for using safespots so explain the exploit to the public plz so then we can judge, if it turns out to be your own stupidity then tough **** The ships were inside our POS. The exploit enables you to board ships inside the POS from outside the force feild, bypassing the sentry guns and force feild password.
Sticky Vicky	Posted - 2004.12.22 19:59:00 - [12] Originally by: Mac Knife Originally by: Sticky Vicky I was enjoying fighting you guys, next to no smack and more importantly a willingness to fight. However it would appear that after realising there was going to be no "cheap ganks" you turn to lame ass exploits to steal our ships, seeing as you cant destroy them the traditional way? Now im hoping this is not a sign of things to come, Valrandir is not the only one who knows some of the "dirty bastard tactics" in eve. Makes me laugh how a "merc" corp 6 times our size has to resort to exploiting to avenge the loss of their ships... Very lame indeed. Funny how the exploiter has yet to show himself on the battlefield since the declaration of this war. how did they steal your ships? if they found your safestops and lifted them, good on them for finding them and sux to u for using safespots so explain the exploit to the public plz so then we can judge, if it turns out to be your own stupidity then tough **** The ships were inside our POS. The exploit enables you to board ships inside the POS from outside the force feild, bypassing the sentry guns and force feild password.
Palitir	Posted - 2004.12.22 20:00:00 - [13] Edited by: Palitir on 22/12/2004 20:02:00 Badger MkII => It is in my hangar now. Fuel => We do not know anything about the fuel situation it is only what we thought. Since we were not shot at by the sentrys and we were inside the shield free to fly around. We dont need to exploit to get ship kills. Edit; we also flying around inside since we were testing where we could shoot it from, not egging it outside the shield. ============================ . OMGBUHU I am teh one with wierd setups.
Palitir	Posted - 2004.12.22 20:00:00 - [14] Edited by: Palitir on 22/12/2004 20:02:00 Badger MkII => It is in my hangar now. Fuel => We do not know anything about the fuel situation it is only what we thought. Since we were not shot at by the sentrys and we were inside the shield free to fly around. We dont need to exploit to get ship kills. Edit; we also flying around inside since we were testing where we could shoot it from, not egging it outside the shield. ============================ . OMGBUHU I am teh one with wierd setups.
Perssephone	Posted - 2004.12.22 20:03:00 - [15] u exploited to get the ships not to kill them. And im sorry but when things are inside a force field you tend to believe they'll be ok. You exploited plain and simple, using game mechanics in a way not intended or probably known about by ccp. Its a bug which you exploited
Perssephone	Posted - 2004.12.22 20:03:00 - [16] u exploited to get the ships not to kill them. And im sorry but when things are inside a force field you tend to believe they'll be ok. You exploited plain and simple, using game mechanics in a way not intended or probably known about by ccp. Its a bug which you exploited
Palitir	Posted - 2004.12.22 20:06:00 - [17] Edited by: Palitir on 22/12/2004 20:06:44 Look i'm not here to start an argument. We warped to the PoS in out frigates plain and simple, we were on the inside of the force field. No Exploit. Please take it to Eve-mail with me and not drag it into a flame fest on the forums. Edit; If you think it is an exploit when we warped to your PoS please, send a message to CCP. ============================ . OMGBUHU I am teh one with wierd setups.
Palitir	Posted - 2004.12.22 20:06:00 - [18] Edited by: Palitir on 22/12/2004 20:06:44 Look i'm not here to start an argument. We warped to the PoS in out frigates plain and simple, we were on the inside of the force field. No Exploit. Please take it to Eve-mail with me and not drag it into a flame fest on the forums. Edit; If you think it is an exploit when we warped to your PoS please, send a message to CCP. ============================ . OMGBUHU I am teh one with wierd setups.
Kulach	Posted - 2004.12.22 20:13:00 - [19] Look, if you think they exploited, petition it instead of posting here (against forum rules ‎to talk about exploits on the forums). ‎ If the devÆs replace the ships you were right, but should still have kept you mouth shut.‎ If they don't you were wrong and you should have kept your mouth shut.‎ In short, donÆt talk about exploits on the forums.‎ Just because something is fixed doesn't mean you can't break it
Kulach	Posted - 2004.12.22 20:13:00 - [20] Look, if you think they exploited, petition it instead of posting here (against forum rules ‎to talk about exploits on the forums). ‎ If the devÆs replace the ships you were right, but should still have kept you mouth shut.‎ If they don't you were wrong and you should have kept your mouth shut.‎ In short, donÆt talk about exploits on the forums.‎ Just because something is fixed doesn't mean you can't break it
Sticky Vicky	Posted - 2004.12.22 20:13:00 - [21] Edited by: Sticky Vicky on 22/12/2004 20:39:14 Edited by: Sticky Vicky on 22/12/2004 20:17:26 Originally by: Palitir Badger MkII => It is in my hangar now. Fuel => We do not know anything about the fuel situation it is only what we thought. Since we were not shot at by the sentrys and we were inside the shield free to fly around. We dont need to exploit to get ship kills. *content removed* Ships replaced, nothing else to say except. lamers.
Sticky Vicky	Posted - 2004.12.22 20:13:00 - [22] Edited by: Sticky Vicky on 22/12/2004 20:39:14 Edited by: Sticky Vicky on 22/12/2004 20:17:26 Originally by: Palitir Badger MkII => It is in my hangar now. Fuel => We do not know anything about the fuel situation it is only what we thought. Since we were not shot at by the sentrys and we were inside the shield free to fly around. We dont need to exploit to get ship kills. *content removed* Ships replaced, nothing else to say except. lamers.
SageOfMystery	Posted - 2004.12.22 20:15:00 - [23] Edited by: SageOfMystery on 22/12/2004 20:15:57 there is always the chance that you messed up on the settings, if you are at war with these people you can enable the guns to fire at them when they come in range. however you need to check the box. its in edit: its not called station management its in pos managemnt or somthing like that.
SageOfMystery	Posted - 2004.12.22 20:15:00 - [24] Edited by: SageOfMystery on 22/12/2004 20:15:57 there is always the chance that you messed up on the settings, if you are at war with these people you can enable the guns to fire at them when they come in range. however you need to check the box. its in edit: its not called station management its in pos managemnt or somthing like that.
Mac Knife	Posted - 2004.12.22 20:18:00 - [25] tbh it doesnt look like an exploit to me, did they plan on doing it as an exploit? did they even know it was an exploit, or did they just get there and try it? sheesh just sounds like they got the better of your POS and found a possible bug, you should really be thanking them instead of moaning about it. Petition it and c what happens but other than that, Good going Distant Thunder Mac Knife - Lone Wolf
Mac Knife	Posted - 2004.12.22 20:18:00 - [26] tbh it doesnt look like an exploit to me, did they plan on doing it as an exploit? did they even know it was an exploit, or did they just get there and try it? sheesh just sounds like they got the better of your POS and found a possible bug, you should really be thanking them instead of moaning about it. Petition it and c what happens but other than that, Good going Distant Thunder Mac Knife - Lone Wolf
slip66	Posted - 2004.12.22 20:37:00 - [27] not that im on any side, but why would you warp frigs to a pos? if they had any guns you would be dead.
slip66	Posted - 2004.12.22 20:37:00 - [28] not that im on any side, but why would you warp frigs to a pos? if they had any guns you would be dead.
Sticky Vicky	Posted - 2004.12.22 20:37:00 - [29] Originally by: Kulach Look, if you think they exploited, petition it instead of posting here (against forum rules ‎to talk about exploits on the forums). ‎ If the devÆs replace the ships you were right, but should still have kept you mouth shut.‎ If they don't you were wrong and you should have kept your mouth shut.‎ In short, donÆt talk about exploits on the forums.‎ Point taken, however its hard to stay silent when you see you nme's flying around local in your ships... Personally i feel all POS owners should know about this, so they can defend themselfs against it.
Sticky Vicky	Posted - 2004.12.22 20:37:00 - [30] Originally by: Kulach Look, if you think they exploited, petition it instead of posting here (against forum rules ‎to talk about exploits on the forums). ‎ If the devÆs replace the ships you were right, but should still have kept you mouth shut.‎ If they don't you were wrong and you should have kept your mouth shut.‎ In short, donÆt talk about exploits on the forums.‎ Point taken, however its hard to stay silent when you see you nme's flying around local in your ships... Personally i feel all POS owners should know about this, so they can defend themselfs against it.
Mac Knife	Posted - 2004.12.22 20:39:00 - [31] Edited by: Mac Knife on 22/12/2004 20:39:36 called sentry guns and missile pods
Mac Knife	Posted - 2004.12.22 20:39:00 - [32] Edited by: Mac Knife on 22/12/2004 20:39:36 called sentry guns and missile pods
SageOfMystery	Posted - 2004.12.22 21:35:00 - [33] Originally by: Mac Knife Edited by: Mac Knife on 22/12/2004 20:39:36 called sentry guns and missile pods some one said they had guns up, it looks like they didnt tell the guns when to fire correctly.
SageOfMystery	Posted - 2004.12.22 21:35:00 - [34] Originally by: Mac Knife Edited by: Mac Knife on 22/12/2004 20:39:36 called sentry guns and missile pods some one said they had guns up, it looks like they didnt tell the guns when to fire correctly.
Sticky Vicky	Posted - 2004.12.22 22:00:00 - [35] Originally by: SageOfMystery Originally by: Mac Knife Edited by: Mac Knife on 22/12/2004 20:39:36 called sentry guns and missile pods some one said they had guns up, it looks like they didnt tell the guns when to fire correctly. We had plenty of Turrets, Ammo, Fuel and EW mods. The exploit has been confirmed, ships replaced so not much more to say on the matter. Seeing the result of our recent encounter with this corp, bout 10 mins ago. I can see why they have to resort to this. Quality beat quantity anyday. Maybe they need to serve their time in 0.0 for an alliance before delcaring war on a lil 5 member corp such as ours 30 mins ago i was contemplating finding these people in real life, now im roflmao seeing them run/log admist the ship popping mayhem that is eve
Sticky Vicky	Posted - 2004.12.22 22:00:00 - [36] Originally by: SageOfMystery Originally by: Mac Knife Edited by: Mac Knife on 22/12/2004 20:39:36 called sentry guns and missile pods some one said they had guns up, it looks like they didnt tell the guns when to fire correctly. We had plenty of Turrets, Ammo, Fuel and EW mods. The exploit has been confirmed, ships replaced so not much more to say on the matter. Seeing the result of our recent encounter with this corp, bout 10 mins ago. I can see why they have to resort to this. Quality beat quantity anyday. Maybe they need to serve their time in 0.0 for an alliance before delcaring war on a lil 5 member corp such as ours 30 mins ago i was contemplating finding these people in real life, now im roflmao seeing them run/log admist the ship popping mayhem that is eve
The Speaker	Posted - 2004.12.22 22:08:00 - [37] Originally by: Sticky Vicky 30 mins ago i was contemplating finding these people in real life When you start thinking this, ever, its time to take a break from eve.
The Speaker	Posted - 2004.12.22 22:08:00 - [38] Originally by: Sticky Vicky 30 mins ago i was contemplating finding these people in real life When you start thinking this, ever, its time to take a break from eve.
Tyreal	Posted - 2004.12.23 01:11:00 - [39] Ive never heard of an exploit which allows someone to bypass a stations defences, and its force field while it is online. Valrandir was scouting the station and its defences when he noticed that it was offline. The Raven was sitting there, and Valrandir noticed the Board Ship option, therefore he took it. You immediately claim exploit and whatnot, but you fail to see that the error could be your own, as despite your claims, your PoS must not have had enough fuel, or someone within your corp turned it offline or something. Don't start accusing our members of exploiting just because of your own mistake. The facts are that it was off, so the empty ship was taken.
Tyreal	Posted - 2004.12.23 01:11:00 - [40] Ive never heard of an exploit which allows someone to bypass a stations defences, and its force field while it is online. Valrandir was scouting the station and its defences when he noticed that it was offline. The Raven was sitting there, and Valrandir noticed the Board Ship option, therefore he took it. You immediately claim exploit and whatnot, but you fail to see that the error could be your own, as despite your claims, your PoS must not have had enough fuel, or someone within your corp turned it offline or something. Don't start accusing our members of exploiting just because of your own mistake. The facts are that it was off, so the empty ship was taken.
Valrandir	Posted - 2004.12.23 02:56:00 - [41] Edited by: Valrandir on 23/12/2004 02:56:14 It happened exactly as Palitir said. I was scouting your PoS and found that the sentry guns would not fire at all. After that, I tried to move in and out of your forcefield and as I could do it without any problems I came to the conclusion that your starbase was out of fuel. This is when I boarded Sticky Vicky Caracal and Palitir boarded the Badget MKII. That is why you had no kill mail, we did not kill it your ships are in our hangars atm. Also right after downtime we logged in and found that Perssephone's Raven was floating in your POS. I boarded that Battleship and happylly added it to my ships collection. No 'Dirty lame xploits' where involved. We are in a war, and therefore we could have choosed just to shot down your ships instead of boarding them away. If your way of fighting is by makings petitions with CCP, go for it. See you in space --------------------------------
Valrandir	Posted - 2004.12.23 02:56:00 - [42] Edited by: Valrandir on 23/12/2004 02:56:14 It happened exactly as Palitir said. I was scouting your PoS and found that the sentry guns would not fire at all. After that, I tried to move in and out of your forcefield and as I could do it without any problems I came to the conclusion that your starbase was out of fuel. This is when I boarded Sticky Vicky Caracal and Palitir boarded the Badget MKII. That is why you had no kill mail, we did not kill it your ships are in our hangars atm. Also right after downtime we logged in and found that Perssephone's Raven was floating in your POS. I boarded that Battleship and happylly added it to my ships collection. No 'Dirty lame xploits' where involved. We are in a war, and therefore we could have choosed just to shot down your ships instead of boarding them away. If your way of fighting is by makings petitions with CCP, go for it. See you in space --------------------------------
Valrandir	Posted - 2004.12.23 03:23:00 - [43] Edited by: Valrandir on 23/12/2004 08:13:06 It was also said that several members of Distant Thunder corporation were banned from the game for that, etc. This is nothing but false war propagande. None of us is banned, and I am sure that no ships were replaced by CCP. First of all it takes more then 12 hours for a petition to be processed. Moreover, CCP would not just spawn you a new raven. They would instead move it from my hangars to your, or deduce isk from my account. Instead, it's already sold for 125mil. Get over it VB7, is that such a big loss to you? Edit : Link to fraps Fraps Video --------------------------------
Valrandir	Posted - 2004.12.23 03:23:00 - [44] Edited by: Valrandir on 23/12/2004 08:13:06 It was also said that several members of Distant Thunder corporation were banned from the game for that, etc. This is nothing but false war propagande. None of us is banned, and I am sure that no ships were replaced by CCP. First of all it takes more then 12 hours for a petition to be processed. Moreover, CCP would not just spawn you a new raven. They would instead move it from my hangars to your, or deduce isk from my account. Instead, it's already sold for 125mil. Get over it VB7, is that such a big loss to you? Edit : Link to fraps Fraps Video --------------------------------
Perssephone	Posted - 2004.12.23 10:09:00 - [45] "I tried to move in and out of your forcefield and as I could do it without any problems I came to the conclusion that your starbase was out of fuel." If it was off line m8 there wouldnt have been a forcefield to move in or out of, and since GM spiral has already replaced our ships (a caracal & raven with the insurance still on it) and told us you exploited then i dont really see you have an arguament. only way you got through the shield is using the exploit we have tested and proved is the only way you got to the ships. How about grow up and actually fight us rather using these kind of lame ass tactics. your a cheat Valrandir m8 nothin more to say apart from we enjoyed podding bokudo (again) and camping your friends in gehi station, was good fun.
Perssephone	Posted - 2004.12.23 10:09:00 - [46] "I tried to move in and out of your forcefield and as I could do it without any problems I came to the conclusion that your starbase was out of fuel." If it was off line m8 there wouldnt have been a forcefield to move in or out of, and since GM spiral has already replaced our ships (a caracal & raven with the insurance still on it) and told us you exploited then i dont really see you have an arguament. only way you got through the shield is using the exploit we have tested and proved is the only way you got to the ships. How about grow up and actually fight us rather using these kind of lame ass tactics. your a cheat Valrandir m8 nothin more to say apart from we enjoyed podding bokudo (again) and camping your friends in gehi station, was good fun.
Perssephone	Posted - 2004.12.23 10:14:00 - [47] "No 'Dirty lame xploits' where involved. We are in a war, and therefore we could have choosed just to shot down your ships instead of boarding them away." No you couldnt cos you cant fire in a force field Lie after lie after lie!, tell you what. the station is in the same state as it was when you exploited, why not try it again eh, on no thats right cos you`ll get ass banned for exploiting again. Ship kill count of war so far:- vb7 losses - 0 (2 ships replaced from exploit cheating) Distant Thunder Losses - 5 Sorry? who needs propaganda?
Perssephone	Posted - 2004.12.23 10:14:00 - [48] "No 'Dirty lame xploits' where involved. We are in a war, and therefore we could have choosed just to shot down your ships instead of boarding them away." No you couldnt cos you cant fire in a force field Lie after lie after lie!, tell you what. the station is in the same state as it was when you exploited, why not try it again eh, on no thats right cos you`ll get ass banned for exploiting again. Ship kill count of war so far:- vb7 losses - 0 (2 ships replaced from exploit cheating) Distant Thunder Losses - 5 Sorry? who needs propaganda?
Sollytear	Posted - 2004.12.23 10:16:00 - [49] In that case we want to talk 2 the CCP as we did not use an exploit. Is there anyway we can get a chat room up wit the GM or even a master?
Sollytear	Posted - 2004.12.23 10:16:00 - [50] In that case we want to talk 2 the CCP as we did not use an exploit. Is there anyway we can get a chat room up wit the GM or even a master?
V2GBR	Posted - 2004.12.23 10:27:00 - [51] Edited by: V2GBR on 23/12/2004 10:28:02 lmao how can they even say its an exploit. If the shields were up and online they would of died, but as they have said they wasnt. I would hang your head in shame as its your own fault for letting the station go offline. I cant help but keep laugthing that you even posted on the forum about this and let us all know how stupid you was to allow this to happen ---------- http://guc.webinventions.co.uk <-- GUC Site. www.webinventions.co.uk <-- My eve history.
V2GBR	Posted - 2004.12.23 10:27:00 - [52] Edited by: V2GBR on 23/12/2004 10:28:02 lmao how can they even say its an exploit. If the shields were up and online they would of died, but as they have said they wasnt. I would hang your head in shame as its your own fault for letting the station go offline. I cant help but keep laugthing that you even posted on the forum about this and let us all know how stupid you was to allow this to happen ---------- http://guc.webinventions.co.uk <-- GUC Site. www.webinventions.co.uk <-- My eve history.
Perssephone	Posted - 2004.12.23 10:31:00 - [53] i tell u what lil huffer, u go upto a PoS in a pod, fly upto the edge of the shield and board a ship... now u tell me that isnt an exploit.
Perssephone	Posted - 2004.12.23 10:31:00 - [54] i tell u what lil huffer, u go upto a PoS in a pod, fly upto the edge of the shield and board a ship... now u tell me that isnt an exploit.
Gungankllr	Posted - 2004.12.23 10:35:00 - [55] Looks at thread with an unbiased opinion Yeah, it sucks. www.hadean.org
Gungankllr	Posted - 2004.12.23 10:35:00 - [56] Looks at thread with an unbiased opinion Yeah, it sucks. www.hadean.org
Sollytear	Posted - 2004.12.23 10:38:00 - [57] U say that but u have PROVED urself wrong. Rembmer yday, and ur little friend buying shuttle after shuttle to work out our 'expliot'? Total bull man
Sollytear	Posted - 2004.12.23 10:38:00 - [58] U say that but u have PROVED urself wrong. Rembmer yday, and ur little friend buying shuttle after shuttle to work out our 'expliot'? Total bull man
V2GBR	Posted - 2004.12.23 10:39:00 - [59] Originally by: Perssephone i tell u what lil huffer, u go upto a PoS in a pod, fly upto the edge of the shield and board a ship... now u tell me that isnt an exploit. If its not covered by CCP it aint an exploit. Its a ****up. ---------- http://guc.webinventions.co.uk <-- GUC Site. www.webinventions.co.uk <-- My eve history.
V2GBR	Posted - 2004.12.23 10:39:00 - [60] Originally by: Perssephone i tell u what lil huffer, u go upto a PoS in a pod, fly upto the edge of the shield and board a ship... now u tell me that isnt an exploit. If its not covered by CCP it aint an exploit. Its a ****up. ---------- http://guc.webinventions.co.uk <-- GUC Site. www.webinventions.co.uk <-- My eve history.
Perssephone	Posted - 2004.12.23 10:40:00 - [61] Its called recreating the exploit so we could let the Gms know what youve been upto and yes we recreated it several times so we know how you got these ships.
Perssephone	Posted - 2004.12.23 10:40:00 - [62] Its called recreating the exploit so we could let the Gms know what youve been upto and yes we recreated it several times so we know how you got these ships.
Perssephone	Posted - 2004.12.23 10:42:00 - [63] "If its not covered by CCP it aint an exploit. Its a ****up." Sorry explain? dont speak 5yr old.
Perssephone	Posted - 2004.12.23 10:42:00 - [64] "If its not covered by CCP it aint an exploit. Its a ****up." Sorry explain? dont speak 5yr old.
V2GBR	Posted - 2004.12.23 10:45:00 - [65] I just dont understand how you think its an exploit ! How about you ****in explain to me and make sense. ---------- http://guc.webinventions.co.uk <-- GUC Site. www.webinventions.co.uk <-- My eve history.
V2GBR	Posted - 2004.12.23 10:45:00 - [66] I just dont understand how you think its an exploit ! How about you ****in explain to me and make sense. ---------- http://guc.webinventions.co.uk <-- GUC Site. www.webinventions.co.uk <-- My eve history.
Perssephone	Posted - 2004.12.23 10:47:00 - [67] ok huffer, would u agree that objects on the inside of a POS forcefield should not be allowed to be accessed outside of it by people who dont have access and in fact are war nme's? I mean its a frikken forcefield right?
Perssephone	Posted - 2004.12.23 10:47:00 - [68] ok huffer, would u agree that objects on the inside of a POS forcefield should not be allowed to be accessed outside of it by people who dont have access and in fact are war nme's? I mean its a frikken forcefield right?
Perssephone	Posted - 2004.12.23 10:48:00 - [69] but u can fly a pod to the shield and the guns wont hurt u yes?
Perssephone	Posted - 2004.12.23 10:48:00 - [70] but u can fly a pod to the shield and the guns wont hurt u yes?
V2GBR	Posted - 2004.12.23 10:50:00 - [71] 1. Did you set there standings on the POS ? 2. If so but when in a pod this allows you to by pass the forcefield then its a game mechanic yet to be covered by CCp, which takes me back to the point of it being a CCP mistake. ---------- http://guc.webinventions.co.uk <-- GUC Site. www.webinventions.co.uk <-- My eve history.
V2GBR	Posted - 2004.12.23 10:50:00 - [72] 1. Did you set there standings on the POS ? 2. If so but when in a pod this allows you to by pass the forcefield then its a game mechanic yet to be covered by CCp, which takes me back to the point of it being a CCP mistake. ---------- http://guc.webinventions.co.uk <-- GUC Site. www.webinventions.co.uk <-- My eve history.
Perssephone	Posted - 2004.12.23 10:52:00 - [73] Edited by: Perssephone on 23/12/2004 11:26:53 Censored :)
Perssephone	Posted - 2004.12.23 10:52:00 - [74] Edited by: Perssephone on 23/12/2004 11:26:53 Censored :)
Perssephone	Posted - 2004.12.23 10:54:00 - [75] Edited by: Perssephone on 23/12/2004 11:27:24 Censored, dammit its censorship i tell ya!!!
Perssephone	Posted - 2004.12.23 10:54:00 - [76] Edited by: Perssephone on 23/12/2004 11:27:24 Censored, dammit its censorship i tell ya!!!
Urfin	Posted - 2004.12.23 10:55:00 - [77] Edited by: Urfin on 23/12/2004 11:15:40 We at DT are all serious mature players, not some 1337 kiddies bent on world domination through any means, and thus consider exploit accusations very seriously. Since we are absolutely certain that none of our members would or did use an exploit, we have contacted the GMs for investigation in this matter. I would advise 7vb not to go around throwing accusations that you can not prove. By resorting to such lowly measures you're simply proving that you have no ability to fight properly, and are generally making fools of yourselves in front of the public. Not to mention that you're breaking forum rules by posting about exploits. For the interested, here's a link to a FRAPS video of the ship confiscation in question. Enjoy :)
Urfin	Posted - 2004.12.23 10:55:00 - [78] Edited by: Urfin on 23/12/2004 11:15:40 We at DT are all serious mature players, not some 1337 kiddies bent on world domination through any means, and thus consider exploit accusations very seriously. Since we are absolutely certain that none of our members would or did use an exploit, we have contacted the GMs for investigation in this matter. I would advise 7vb not to go around throwing accusations that you can not prove. By resorting to such lowly measures you're simply proving that you have no ability to fight properly, and are generally making fools of yourselves in front of the public. Not to mention that you're breaking forum rules by posting about exploits. For the interested, here's a link to a FRAPS video of the ship confiscation in question. Enjoy :)
V2GBR	Posted - 2004.12.23 10:56:00 - [79] Its not an exploit. People call stuff like this exploits, but its something that CCP has not covered. IE a ****up. Im sure CCP in time will stop this. Exploit means cheat imho and they have not done that. You lost your ships due to a hole in CCP's working live with it and stop calling me Huffer. ---------- http://guc.webinventions.co.uk <-- GUC Site. www.webinventions.co.uk <-- My eve history.
V2GBR	Posted - 2004.12.23 10:56:00 - [80] Its not an exploit. People call stuff like this exploits, but its something that CCP has not covered. IE a ****up. Im sure CCP in time will stop this. Exploit means cheat imho and they have not done that. You lost your ships due to a hole in CCP's working live with it and stop calling me Huffer. ---------- http://guc.webinventions.co.uk <-- GUC Site. www.webinventions.co.uk <-- My eve history.
Loctar	Posted - 2004.12.23 10:57:00 - [81] exploiting - using faulty game mechanics to your advantage if CCP say you souldent be able to do a that and u are. its a faulty game mechanic, if u use it by definition you are using a exploit. There is no such thing as innocence, only various degrees of guilt
Loctar	Posted - 2004.12.23 10:57:00 - [82] exploiting - using faulty game mechanics to your advantage if CCP say you souldent be able to do a that and u are. its a faulty game mechanic, if u use it by definition you are using a exploit. There is no such thing as innocence, only various degrees of guilt
Perssephone	Posted - 2004.12.23 11:05:00 - [83] that was a nice fraps, basically proving you exploited :) bit edited tho hey. make sure u send that to a gm as well
Perssephone	Posted - 2004.12.23 11:05:00 - [84] that was a nice fraps, basically proving you exploited :) bit edited tho hey. make sure u send that to a gm as well
V2GBR	Posted - 2004.12.23 11:16:00 - [85] All you want is a ban. Well i hope you dont get what you want. And if you did then CCP are in the wrong as to ban people for there bad game mechanics ---------- http://guc.webinventions.co.uk <-- GUC Site. www.webinventions.co.uk <-- My eve history.
V2GBR	Posted - 2004.12.23 11:16:00 - [86] All you want is a ban. Well i hope you dont get what you want. And if you did then CCP are in the wrong as to ban people for there bad game mechanics ---------- http://guc.webinventions.co.uk <-- GUC Site. www.webinventions.co.uk <-- My eve history.
Perssephone	Posted - 2004.12.23 11:23:00 - [87] thats an old excuse for any exploit. I dont want a ban, ive recieved my ships back thanks, what i want is A: a formal apology and B: the money deducted from theyre accounts for the ships they stole via the exploit. Not totally unreasonable.
Perssephone	Posted - 2004.12.23 11:23:00 - [88] thats an old excuse for any exploit. I dont want a ban, ive recieved my ships back thanks, what i want is A: a formal apology and B: the money deducted from theyre accounts for the ships they stole via the exploit. Not totally unreasonable.
V2GBR	Posted - 2004.12.23 11:25:00 - [89] Originally by: Perssephone thats an old excuse for any exploit. I dont want a ban, ive recieved my ships back thanks, what i want is A: a formal apology and B: the money deducted from theyre accounts for the ships they stole via the exploit. Not totally unreasonable. LMAO i dont think you will get either :) Ok u have ships! LOCK THE THREAD ! ---------- http://guc.webinventions.co.uk <-- GUC Site. www.webinventions.co.uk <-- My eve history.
V2GBR	Posted - 2004.12.23 11:25:00 - [90] Originally by: Perssephone thats an old excuse for any exploit. I dont want a ban, ive recieved my ships back thanks, what i want is A: a formal apology and B: the money deducted from theyre accounts for the ships they stole via the exploit. Not totally unreasonable. LMAO i dont think you will get either :) Ok u have ships! LOCK THE THREAD ! ---------- http://guc.webinventions.co.uk <-- GUC Site. www.webinventions.co.uk <-- My eve history.
Perssephone	Posted - 2004.12.23 11:28:00 - [91] how about hijack someone elses thread m8 yeh? I`ll give u teh cookie if u do :)
Perssephone	Posted - 2004.12.23 11:28:00 - [92] how about hijack someone elses thread m8 yeh? I`ll give u teh cookie if u do :)
V2GBR	Posted - 2004.12.23 11:31:00 - [93] Chocolate chip one ? ---------- http://guc.webinventions.co.uk <-- GUC Site. www.webinventions.co.uk <-- My eve history.
V2GBR	Posted - 2004.12.23 11:31:00 - [94] Chocolate chip one ? ---------- http://guc.webinventions.co.uk <-- GUC Site. www.webinventions.co.uk <-- My eve history.
Perssephone	Posted - 2004.12.23 11:32:00 - [95] sorry i only got exploit flavour
Perssephone	Posted - 2004.12.23 11:32:00 - [96] sorry i only got exploit flavour
V2GBR	Posted - 2004.12.23 11:35:00 - [97] heh furry muff :) ---------- http://guc.webinventions.co.uk <-- GUC Site. www.webinventions.co.uk <-- My eve history.
V2GBR	Posted - 2004.12.23 11:35:00 - [98] heh furry muff :) ---------- http://guc.webinventions.co.uk <-- GUC Site. www.webinventions.co.uk <-- My eve history.
Urfin	Posted - 2004.12.23 11:47:00 - [99] Edited by: Urfin on 23/12/2004 11:50:14 Edited by: Urfin on 23/12/2004 11:49:55 Recieved your ships back, eh? I would really like to hear more about that, as I'm pretty sure we haven't given them back to you (as they were acquired fair and square), and CCP hasn't even replied about the matter yet. Lying seems to be your only strong point, and it's laughably weak. Go on, entertain us some more, it's a slow day anyway.
Urfin	Posted - 2004.12.23 11:47:00 - [100] Edited by: Urfin on 23/12/2004 11:50:14 Edited by: Urfin on 23/12/2004 11:49:55 Recieved your ships back, eh? I would really like to hear more about that, as I'm pretty sure we haven't given them back to you (as they were acquired fair and square), and CCP hasn't even replied about the matter yet. Lying seems to be your only strong point, and it's laughably weak. Go on, entertain us some more, it's a slow day anyway.
Perssephone	Posted - 2004.12.23 11:51:00 - [101] the 2 ravens and sticky vickys caracal ive got atm must be a figment of my imagination then along with 6 pieces of correspondence from the gms? I think not. Even the fraps actually proved u cheated. Jesus christ your in a real state of denial hey.
Perssephone	Posted - 2004.12.23 11:51:00 - [102] the 2 ravens and sticky vickys caracal ive got atm must be a figment of my imagination then along with 6 pieces of correspondence from the gms? I think not. Even the fraps actually proved u cheated. Jesus christ your in a real state of denial hey.
Perssephone	Posted - 2004.12.23 11:52:00 - [103] btw exploits get responded to asap, normally within the hour. Good job ccp btw.
Perssephone	Posted - 2004.12.23 11:52:00 - [104] btw exploits get responded to asap, normally within the hour. Good job ccp btw.
Urfin	Posted - 2004.12.23 11:54:00 - [105] We'll see after downtime. PS. 2 ravens? I thought we only took one. Must indeed be a figment of your imagination :)
Urfin	Posted - 2004.12.23 11:54:00 - [106] We'll see after downtime. PS. 2 ravens? I thought we only took one. Must indeed be a figment of your imagination :)
Perssephone	Posted - 2004.12.23 11:55:00 - [107] yep, i went and bought another whilst the petition was being sorted out like i say, losing money doesnt worry me, Exploiters stealing my assets does
Perssephone	Posted - 2004.12.23 11:55:00 - [108] yep, i went and bought another whilst the petition was being sorted out like i say, losing money doesnt worry me, Exploiters stealing my assets does
Marcus Aurelius	Posted - 2004.12.23 11:56:00 - [109] Originally by: Valrandir Edited by: Valrandir on 23/12/2004 02:56:14 It happened exactly as Palitir said. I was scouting your PoS and found that the sentry guns would not fire at all. After that, I tried to move in and out of your forcefield and as I could do it without any problems I came to the conclusion that your starbase was out of fuel. Ok, this kinda clinches it doesn't it? A pos that is offline does not have a forcefield. If there is a forcefield the pos is ONline. Hence if you can enter the forcefield without the password and while not getting fired on there is a bug. wether intentionally or not i cannot judge.
Marcus Aurelius	Posted - 2004.12.23 11:56:00 - [110] Originally by: Valrandir Edited by: Valrandir on 23/12/2004 02:56:14 It happened exactly as Palitir said. I was scouting your PoS and found that the sentry guns would not fire at all. After that, I tried to move in and out of your forcefield and as I could do it without any problems I came to the conclusion that your starbase was out of fuel. Ok, this kinda clinches it doesn't it? A pos that is offline does not have a forcefield. If there is a forcefield the pos is ONline. Hence if you can enter the forcefield without the password and while not getting fired on there is a bug. wether intentionally or not i cannot judge.
Perssephone	Posted - 2004.12.23 11:57:00 - [111] thank you, someone who actually knows what theyre talking about.
Perssephone	Posted - 2004.12.23 11:57:00 - [112] thank you, someone who actually knows what theyre talking about.
C4w3	Posted - 2004.12.23 12:41:00 - [113] The lack of reply from CCP amases me ;0) CCP = Discussions about eploits could be sent to [email protected] Reply = Next 3 or 4 month ;0) "If all the heroes are standing together around a strange device and begin to taunt me, I will pull out a conventional one.
C4w3	Posted - 2004.12.23 12:41:00 - [114] The lack of reply from CCP amases me ;0) CCP = Discussions about eploits could be sent to [email protected] Reply = Next 3 or 4 month ;0) "If all the heroes are standing together around a strange device and begin to taunt me, I will pull out a conventional one.
Sollytear	Posted - 2004.12.23 13:09:00 - [115] Can you provide a screenshots of the convo messages from you and the GM please? Either email me, Perss has my email address as provided in local chat, or post on forums. U can use a free image hoster like www.imageshack.us . I am asking as this will put me at rest if you, which i believe u are, are lieing about ur re-inverments of the ships. The GM will b able to see the logs of the POS events (including shield entries)?
Sollytear	Posted - 2004.12.23 13:09:00 - [116] Can you provide a screenshots of the convo messages from you and the GM please? Either email me, Perss has my email address as provided in local chat, or post on forums. U can use a free image hoster like www.imageshack.us . I am asking as this will put me at rest if you, which i believe u are, are lieing about ur re-inverments of the ships. The GM will b able to see the logs of the POS events (including shield entries)?
Sollytear	Posted - 2004.12.23 13:18:00 - [117] Edited by: Sollytear on 23/12/2004 13:24:00 edited
Sollytear	Posted - 2004.12.23 13:18:00 - [118] Edited by: Sollytear on 23/12/2004 13:24:00 edited
Cintas	Posted - 2004.12.23 13:19:00 - [119] Afternoon ladies.. Well, here are my 2 pence worth.. 1st of all, I'd just like to say.. And I am sure many of you will agree with this next comment... Yarr! Next: Ok ppl, honestly, the POS was adequately fuelled and it was definitely online. We couldn't understand what had happened at first and indeed thought that we must have made a mistake with the configuration. After a while we registered a petition and the initial GM dealing with our whinge confirmed that the POS settings were correct and that he couldn't shed any further light on the matter. At this point he passed it on to one of his colleagues who deals with the reimbursement side of things. The ships were eventually reimbursed and the rest is history. After reading your side of things, I don't think that you deliberately went out to exploit anything, I believe that you genuinely thought the POS was down.. Fair play to you, if I was in your shoes I would have done the same thing. At this point it's all completely irrelevant. Apart from this little lovers tiff that we are having, so far (early stages), we have had a clean and fun little war. I respectfully request of everyone, that we forget about this and get back to us pwning you. Whadaya say? Group hug?
Cintas	Posted - 2004.12.23 13:19:00 - [120] Afternoon ladies.. Well, here are my 2 pence worth.. 1st of all, I'd just like to say.. And I am sure many of you will agree with this next comment... Yarr! Next: Ok ppl, honestly, the POS was adequately fuelled and it was definitely online. We couldn't understand what had happened at first and indeed thought that we must have made a mistake with the configuration. After a while we registered a petition and the initial GM dealing with our whinge confirmed that the POS settings were correct and that he couldn't shed any further light on the matter. At this point he passed it on to one of his colleagues who deals with the reimbursement side of things. The ships were eventually reimbursed and the rest is history. After reading your side of things, I don't think that you deliberately went out to exploit anything, I believe that you genuinely thought the POS was down.. Fair play to you, if I was in your shoes I would have done the same thing. At this point it's all completely irrelevant. Apart from this little lovers tiff that we are having, so far (early stages), we have had a clean and fun little war. I respectfully request of everyone, that we forget about this and get back to us pwning you. Whadaya say? Group hug?
Urfin	Posted - 2004.12.23 13:32:00 - [121] We're currently waiting for a GM reply on our own petition. As soon as we get it, the matter will hopefully be resolved, and we can all happly go back to pwning.
Urfin	Posted - 2004.12.23 13:32:00 - [122] We're currently waiting for a GM reply on our own petition. As soon as we get it, the matter will hopefully be resolved, and we can all happly go back to pwning.
Zerodragoon	Posted - 2004.12.23 14:04:00 - [123] Edited by: Zerodragoon on 23/12/2004 14:37:57 Looking at Perssephone's posts she looks like little more than a whiner that she lost a ship. Boohoo, some mistake happened and they got in your pos and took your raven, MUST be a exploit. Do you see everyone else on here whining about exliots because they got a bs pwned? (Besides of course the few exceptions we get) (Edit for spelling) -------
Zerodragoon	Posted - 2004.12.23 14:04:00 - [124] Edited by: Zerodragoon on 23/12/2004 14:37:57 Looking at Perssephone's posts she looks like little more than a whiner that she lost a ship. Boohoo, some mistake happened and they got in your pos and took your raven, MUST be a exploit. Do you see everyone else on here whining about exliots because they got a bs pwned? (Besides of course the few exceptions we get) (Edit for spelling) -------
Perssephone	Posted - 2004.12.23 14:24:00 - [125] Hey zero, how about a nice tall cup of stfu. nobody's whining, simply stating fact as per an evemail sent to me from a GM. Now go back to mining veld like a good wittle boy.
Perssephone	Posted - 2004.12.23 14:24:00 - [126] Hey zero, how about a nice tall cup of stfu. nobody's whining, simply stating fact as per an evemail sent to me from a GM. Now go back to mining veld like a good wittle boy.
Sollytear	Posted - 2004.12.23 14:36:00 - [127] Is it me, or has anyone else noticed the maturity in 7vb seems to be lacking.
Sollytear	Posted - 2004.12.23 14:36:00 - [128] Is it me, or has anyone else noticed the maturity in 7vb seems to be lacking.
Perssephone	Posted - 2004.12.23 14:39:00 - [129] is it me or is this a game?
Perssephone	Posted - 2004.12.23 14:39:00 - [130] is it me or is this a game?
Zerodragoon	Posted - 2004.12.23 14:44:00 - [131] Is it me, or is that a excuse to not act mature? -------
Zerodragoon	Posted - 2004.12.23 14:44:00 - [132] Is it me, or is that a excuse to not act mature? -------
Sticky Vicky	Posted - 2004.12.23 15:10:00 - [133] The solution to this bug/exploit is simple. POS need to be configured to POD kill! Why should a POD be able to pass thru the force feild and board any ships inside thus bypassing all the security settings? Anyone who knows us, knows how we make isk in eve so saying the POS had gone offline due to lack of fuel is laughable at best. As for iccorect security settings, ask those people who have warped to the moon without knowing the POS was there Infact here is an open invitation to anyone wishing to test our POS's security settings, Kaira planet 8 moon 10.... Please bring some battleships We created out POS partly out of bordem with eve but also to enable us to have a foward staging post for our opperations into 0.0. Being able to refit & change ships on the fly is invaluable to us. The whole moon mining is to us. Now considering any noob in a pod can fly upto the sheild and board ships within, would you not be annoyed having spent 300mil+ on the POS and footing the bill for the running costs. Maybe Distant Thunder did not intenionally use this bug/exploit. I'm guessing thats why you still have the ships. However the GM's have confirmed this is an exploit and have swiftly responded to the pettitions and replaced our losses. Our gripe was not with loosing the ships, more the fact that a stupid lil bug like this was allowed into the game. If anyone can justify why this is an intended feature, please enlighten me. Smacktalk aside, it has been good fun fighting you guys, we are a patient corp and will happily wait for the right opportunity to engage you in combat, outnumbered or not, as you have no doubt noticed. However dissin our combat skills is laughable at best, from where im sitting it looks like we have won every engagment to date, please correct me if i am wrong! You outnumber us 6 to 1 member wise and yet you still have not managed to destroy any of our ships? We cant and dont try to compete with your blobs simple, however once you get onto fast mobilisation, hit and run guriella(sp) tactics we'll hand it to you every time. As for the Distant Thunder members posting on this thread who have not even faced us on the battlefeild yet get back to mining your Dominix = 70,000 isk. Apocaylpse = 115,000 isk. The resulting smacktalk = Priceless.
Sticky Vicky	Posted - 2004.12.23 15:10:00 - [134] The solution to this bug/exploit is simple. POS need to be configured to POD kill! Why should a POD be able to pass thru the force feild and board any ships inside thus bypassing all the security settings? Anyone who knows us, knows how we make isk in eve so saying the POS had gone offline due to lack of fuel is laughable at best. As for iccorect security settings, ask those people who have warped to the moon without knowing the POS was there Infact here is an open invitation to anyone wishing to test our POS's security settings, Kaira planet 8 moon 10.... Please bring some battleships We created out POS partly out of bordem with eve but also to enable us to have a foward staging post for our opperations into 0.0. Being able to refit & change ships on the fly is invaluable to us. The whole moon mining is to us. Now considering any noob in a pod can fly upto the sheild and board ships within, would you not be annoyed having spent 300mil+ on the POS and footing the bill for the running costs. Maybe Distant Thunder did not intenionally use this bug/exploit. I'm guessing thats why you still have the ships. However the GM's have confirmed this is an exploit and have swiftly responded to the pettitions and replaced our losses. Our gripe was not with loosing the ships, more the fact that a stupid lil bug like this was allowed into the game. If anyone can justify why this is an intended feature, please enlighten me. Smacktalk aside, it has been good fun fighting you guys, we are a patient corp and will happily wait for the right opportunity to engage you in combat, outnumbered or not, as you have no doubt noticed. However dissin our combat skills is laughable at best, from where im sitting it looks like we have won every engagment to date, please correct me if i am wrong! You outnumber us 6 to 1 member wise and yet you still have not managed to destroy any of our ships? We cant and dont try to compete with your blobs simple, however once you get onto fast mobilisation, hit and run guriella(sp) tactics we'll hand it to you every time. As for the Distant Thunder members posting on this thread who have not even faced us on the battlefeild yet get back to mining your Dominix = 70,000 isk. Apocaylpse = 115,000 isk. The resulting smacktalk = Priceless.
Meow Meow	Posted - 2004.12.23 17:22:00 - [135] It's done and done yeah. The GM's have made their reply if it wants to be taken further the distance is ONLY with them. AFAIK they run the game and it is their last say on EVERYTHING anyways! We are having good fun with THUNDR fitting the bill. It makes me laugh though that a friend of mine has spoken with your CEO and even they believe that there is something strange going on and it needing to be looked into! BraveSirRobin is a man full of lies and not to be trusted! He was the main target for out contract on his former corp. Well.... him along with another! Looking through this forum though it seems that some people just CANNOT seem to understand the simple idea of what this is all about. Immaturity and other names/classification's thrown about. Wtf's that all about? It is a game, it will more than likely not be a reality "in this life or the next". There's always hope though I understand that it being a game "blackhole" but it does sound to me that it was an INTENTIONAL exploit but if not and was an accidental find then either way our stuff should be replaced! Tbh though, "frapsing" the event just seems a little too coincidental for it to be an accidental find to me!! Fact of the matter for those that cannot seem to understand what's being said is that lasers/missiles/projectiles/hybrids and whatever else you wanna throw at the shields SHOULD NOT go through the shields but yet a corpse can be transported through. I hope that's put it plain and simply enough to comprehend?! Love the way you have so many experienced players joining in the last 10 days (around the time of the war starting) it's ok not to be confident in fighting experienced PvP'rs
Meow Meow	Posted - 2004.12.23 17:22:00 - [136] It's done and done yeah. The GM's have made their reply if it wants to be taken further the distance is ONLY with them. AFAIK they run the game and it is their last say on EVERYTHING anyways! We are having good fun with THUNDR fitting the bill. It makes me laugh though that a friend of mine has spoken with your CEO and even they believe that there is something strange going on and it needing to be looked into! BraveSirRobin is a man full of lies and not to be trusted! He was the main target for out contract on his former corp. Well.... him along with another! Looking through this forum though it seems that some people just CANNOT seem to understand the simple idea of what this is all about. Immaturity and other names/classification's thrown about. Wtf's that all about? It is a game, it will more than likely not be a reality "in this life or the next". There's always hope though I understand that it being a game "blackhole" but it does sound to me that it was an INTENTIONAL exploit but if not and was an accidental find then either way our stuff should be replaced! Tbh though, "frapsing" the event just seems a little too coincidental for it to be an accidental find to me!! Fact of the matter for those that cannot seem to understand what's being said is that lasers/missiles/projectiles/hybrids and whatever else you wanna throw at the shields SHOULD NOT go through the shields but yet a corpse can be transported through. I hope that's put it plain and simply enough to comprehend?! Love the way you have so many experienced players joining in the last 10 days (around the time of the war starting) it's ok not to be confident in fighting experienced PvP'rs
Tapal	Posted - 2004.12.23 17:32:00 - [137] All i can say is that Zyranyth , Pali and Cividari arn't the type of people who would exploit. At least not intentially. We had some nice fights and best of all no smacktalk only good fight etc. Cya around Tappie
Tapal	Posted - 2004.12.23 17:32:00 - [138] All i can say is that Zyranyth , Pali and Cividari arn't the type of people who would exploit. At least not intentially. We had some nice fights and best of all no smacktalk only good fight etc. Cya around Tappie
Meow Meow	Posted - 2004.12.23 17:46:00 - [139] You might be right but by the looks of it the CEO hasn't been online all that much anyways! Maybe a little more control on his minions. By the sounds of it the CEO is a decent guy along with Palitir. The rest just seem to be taking this game like it's a main link to their lifes source Loosen up guys. Enjoy the game! Get out more, get a GF for a BJ under your desk. Something to lighten your mood. Any other Thudr that I've not really spoken with my appologies in advance if you are lvl headed about all this but some of you seem so uptight. GG guys Also, Nostramis. Can you get your butt back to HQ and stop these solo crusades! Your making us look bad!
Meow Meow	Posted - 2004.12.23 17:46:00 - [140] You might be right but by the looks of it the CEO hasn't been online all that much anyways! Maybe a little more control on his minions. By the sounds of it the CEO is a decent guy along with Palitir. The rest just seem to be taking this game like it's a main link to their lifes source Loosen up guys. Enjoy the game! Get out more, get a GF for a BJ under your desk. Something to lighten your mood. Any other Thudr that I've not really spoken with my appologies in advance if you are lvl headed about all this but some of you seem so uptight. GG guys Also, Nostramis. Can you get your butt back to HQ and stop these solo crusades! Your making us look bad!
Tyrrax Thorrk	Posted - 2004.12.23 17:52:00 - [141] Posting this drivel thread to waste our time with your immature whining and unfounded accusations wasted several minutes of my time. Thank you. Next time engage brain, petition and avoid "post topic" buttons. Discussing exploits on forums is not permitted btw, Distant Thunder are honorable merceneries, as to your smacktalk and posting their losses and proclaiming how ³ber your corporation is, well if you can't see how pathetic that is then nevermind. </rant> http://eve.klaki.net/
Tyrrax Thorrk	Posted - 2004.12.23 17:52:00 - [142] Posting this drivel thread to waste our time with your immature whining and unfounded accusations wasted several minutes of my time. Thank you. Next time engage brain, petition and avoid "post topic" buttons. Discussing exploits on forums is not permitted btw, Distant Thunder are honorable merceneries, as to your smacktalk and posting their losses and proclaiming how ³ber your corporation is, well if you can't see how pathetic that is then nevermind. </rant> http://eve.klaki.net/
Perssephone	Posted - 2004.12.23 17:54:00 - [143] wow thanks for your input Tyrrax, i think im ascending through a new plain of knowledge and understanding...
Perssephone	Posted - 2004.12.23 17:54:00 - [144] wow thanks for your input Tyrrax, i think im ascending through a new plain of knowledge and understanding...
Meow Meow	Posted - 2004.12.23 18:03:00 - [145] Tyrrax, the only lame and immature part of this is that what they're doing atm is the equivalent to us declaring war on your 1 man army, corp atm! Now THAT is pathetic!! You waste your own time it would seem by even reading these posts. You don't want to read tripe then don't even log into the forums/access them in the first place People honestly love to show themselves up on these forums. Unless you've got something decent to say it would probably be in your best interest to NOT say anything at all. People gloat as well.... DEAL WITH IT! Exploits aren't sposed to be posted your right but this is a bit of a serious problem wouldn't you agree on that? One that maybe EVE players should be aware of. All POS owners should be warey leaving ships inside a station I see the flipside that people will be trying to do it but also that people who have them NEED TO KNOW! You say they are a decent/honourable corporation. Your trying to make a corp that has numbers around 30 declaring war on a corp of 5 sound like honourable and good people then I don't see where your coming from. Enjoy the game or go get Space Invaders and set it to "easy" you might get less frustrated
Meow Meow	Posted - 2004.12.23 18:03:00 - [146] Tyrrax, the only lame and immature part of this is that what they're doing atm is the equivalent to us declaring war on your 1 man army, corp atm! Now THAT is pathetic!! You waste your own time it would seem by even reading these posts. You don't want to read tripe then don't even log into the forums/access them in the first place People honestly love to show themselves up on these forums. Unless you've got something decent to say it would probably be in your best interest to NOT say anything at all. People gloat as well.... DEAL WITH IT! Exploits aren't sposed to be posted your right but this is a bit of a serious problem wouldn't you agree on that? One that maybe EVE players should be aware of. All POS owners should be warey leaving ships inside a station I see the flipside that people will be trying to do it but also that people who have them NEED TO KNOW! You say they are a decent/honourable corporation. Your trying to make a corp that has numbers around 30 declaring war on a corp of 5 sound like honourable and good people then I don't see where your coming from. Enjoy the game or go get Space Invaders and set it to "easy" you might get less frustrated
Tyrrax Thorrk	Posted - 2004.12.23 19:04:00 - [147] They got hired to kill you... If you can't take the heat then don't ** people off enough to get them to hire mercs. As to gloating, go ahead and gloat, and I'll go ahead and point out how pointless and stupid it is, there's a reason real pvpers don't come to forums and brag every time they kill a couple of battleships, or 18 for that matter (hi evol). So you want everyone to know about the exploit because it's serious, that's smart, you just tought the eve community how to do what you're whining about, ever consider there might be a reason discussing and describing exploits is not allowed ? I read this thread because I respect Distant Thunder and Sticky Vicky was dragging their name through the mud in a public forum. I'd welcome a merc corp declaring war on my 1 man corp, it'd mean I'd have other people to kill than just the pirates in low sec Genesis. If I lost some ships then I certainly wouldn't come to the forums to whine** about it, I'd do something about it, either by hiring protection, being more careful, changing my setups or petitioning if it was due to bugs or "exploits" like this one. http://eve.klaki.net/
Tyrrax Thorrk	Posted - 2004.12.23 19:04:00 - [148] They got hired to kill you... If you can't take the heat then don't ** people off enough to get them to hire mercs. As to gloating, go ahead and gloat, and I'll go ahead and point out how pointless and stupid it is, there's a reason real pvpers don't come to forums and brag every time they kill a couple of battleships, or 18 for that matter (hi evol). So you want everyone to know about the exploit because it's serious, that's smart, you just tought the eve community how to do what you're whining about, ever consider there might be a reason discussing and describing exploits is not allowed ? I read this thread because I respect Distant Thunder and Sticky Vicky was dragging their name through the mud in a public forum. I'd welcome a merc corp declaring war on my 1 man corp, it'd mean I'd have other people to kill than just the pirates in low sec Genesis. If I lost some ships then I certainly wouldn't come to the forums to whine** about it, I'd do something about it, either by hiring protection, being more careful, changing my setups or petitioning if it was due to bugs or "exploits" like this one. http://eve.klaki.net/
Meow Meow	Posted - 2004.12.23 19:37:00 - [149] You have no idea about this where as I do. You are sticking your ore in where you don't even know the waters that lye. I know the background on this, I bothered to check out information on them and found out they're not on a contract at all but waring because one of their corp members had us declare war on his old corp Never **ed anyone off apart from doing our job the same as Thundr although it's kinda ironic that the conracters are now havin a contract on them. Ah well. It is only a game after all. You say that you'll continue to make points, I thought that's all that we had done tbh so just makes what you do just as pointless. All we are doing is making them realise how pointless this is. They're not winning and not get paid for their ship losses where as we are still raking in the isk (or is that gloating again - go ahead and say how pointless it is, I honestly couldn't care less!) The majority of people would bother to leave a forum alone that states who it's specifically for "question for distant thunder" ring any bells? I note that your NOT from distant thunder so obviously the rats you kill don't entertain you enough to go into a forum that is NOTHING to do with you and spam it with nonsense! To me YOU look the fool and you being involved in this is POINTLESS!! How do you justify complaining about whining by whining? You don't have to maybe?! Well just carry on contradicting yourself then ALSO: If the GM's REALLY had a problem with this forum they do have the power to remove it btw..... Obviously they feel it need be shared also. Jeez some of you guys need to think before tapping such utter bullc* on these forums.... spam, spam, spam......
Meow Meow	Posted - 2004.12.23 19:37:00 - [150] You have no idea about this where as I do. You are sticking your ore in where you don't even know the waters that lye. I know the background on this, I bothered to check out information on them and found out they're not on a contract at all but waring because one of their corp members had us declare war on his old corp Never **ed anyone off apart from doing our job the same as Thundr although it's kinda ironic that the conracters are now havin a contract on them. Ah well. It is only a game after all. You say that you'll continue to make points, I thought that's all that we had done tbh so just makes what you do just as pointless. All we are doing is making them realise how pointless this is. They're not winning and not get paid for their ship losses where as we are still raking in the isk (or is that gloating again - go ahead and say how pointless it is, I honestly couldn't care less!) The majority of people would bother to leave a forum alone that states who it's specifically for "question for distant thunder" ring any bells? I note that your NOT from distant thunder so obviously the rats you kill don't entertain you enough to go into a forum that is NOTHING to do with you and spam it with nonsense! To me YOU look the fool and you being involved in this is POINTLESS!! How do you justify complaining about whining by whining? You don't have to maybe?! Well just carry on contradicting yourself then ALSO: If the GM's REALLY had a problem with this forum they do have the power to remove it btw..... Obviously they feel it need be shared also. Jeez some of you guys need to think before tapping such utter bullc* on these forums.... spam, spam, spam......
Tyrrax Thorrk	Posted - 2004.12.23 20:19:00 - [151] Originally by: Meow Meow You have no idea about this where as I do. You are sticking your ore in where you don't even know the waters that lye. Perhaps. Quote: I know the background on this, I bothered to check out information on them and found out they're not on a contract at all but waring because one of their corp members had us declare war on his old corp So did this corp member of theirs hire them ? Or is this war just some petty grievance of his he dragged the rest into ? Perhaps you should discuss this with Zyranyth instead of airing it on forums. Quote: Never **ed anyone off apart from doing our job the same as Thundr although it's kinda ironic that the conracters are now havin a contract on them. Ah well. It is only a game after all. You say that you'll continue to make points, I thought that's all that we had done tbh so just makes what you do just as pointless. All we are doing is making them realise how pointless this is. They're not winning and not get paid for their ship losses where as we are still raking in the isk (or is that gloating again - go ahead and say how pointless it is, I honestly couldn't care less!) I said I'd point out how stupid and pointless gloating on forums about single kills is. If it's not a merc job they got hired for then I'm wrong, and it's personal, not business, doesn't make much of a difference really, if he can get lots of people to fight for his grievances then good for him. Quote: The majority of people would bother to leave a forum alone that states who it's specifically for "question for distant thunder" ring any bells? Wrong, the majority of people do not leave such threads alone on public forums. Why don't you use their forums if you only wish to talk to them ? As I pointed out this is a public forum, use evemail as they suggested or post in their diplomacy forums if you don't want outsiders like me poking our noses in. Quote: I note that your NOT from distant thunder so obviously the rats you kill don't entertain you enough to go into a forum that is NOTHING to do with you and spam it with nonsense! To me YOU look the fool and you being involved in this is POINTLESS!! How do you justify complaining about whining by whining? You don't have to maybe?! Well just carry on contradicting yourself then I'm perfectly at ease with complaining about whining, I don't know if my complaining could be classified as whining, depends on your point of view. Perhaps that makes me a hypocrite, if so I'm not bothered by it. I'm merely helping you realize that your corpmate's stupidly whining on public forums about a private matter is only going to attract flames and disrespect for you all. Quote: ALSO: If the GM's REALLY had a problem with this forum they do have the power to remove it btw..... Obviously they feel it need be shared also. Jeez some of you guys need to think before tapping such utter bullc* on these forums.... spam, spam, spam...... Drivel. I seriously doubt any GM knows about this thread, perhaps you didn't notice but Exodus deployment has made them rather busy doing their jobs, leaving less time for the rantings of your troll friend. Perhaps you refer to the understaffed polaris volunteers who are not GMs? Indeed they should've locked this thread as soon as exploit whining took place, the fact that they didn't does not mean they want everyone to know how to exploit, rather that they're understaffed. http://eve.klaki.net/
Tyrrax Thorrk	Posted - 2004.12.23 20:19:00 - [152] Originally by: Meow Meow You have no idea about this where as I do. You are sticking your ore in where you don't even know the waters that lye. Perhaps. Quote: I know the background on this, I bothered to check out information on them and found out they're not on a contract at all but waring because one of their corp members had us declare war on his old corp So did this corp member of theirs hire them ? Or is this war just some petty grievance of his he dragged the rest into ? Perhaps you should discuss this with Zyranyth instead of airing it on forums. Quote: Never **ed anyone off apart from doing our job the same as Thundr although it's kinda ironic that the conracters are now havin a contract on them. Ah well. It is only a game after all. You say that you'll continue to make points, I thought that's all that we had done tbh so just makes what you do just as pointless. All we are doing is making them realise how pointless this is. They're not winning and not get paid for their ship losses where as we are still raking in the isk (or is that gloating again - go ahead and say how pointless it is, I honestly couldn't care less!) I said I'd point out how stupid and pointless gloating on forums about single kills is. If it's not a merc job they got hired for then I'm wrong, and it's personal, not business, doesn't make much of a difference really, if he can get lots of people to fight for his grievances then good for him. Quote: The majority of people would bother to leave a forum alone that states who it's specifically for "question for distant thunder" ring any bells? Wrong, the majority of people do not leave such threads alone on public forums. Why don't you use their forums if you only wish to talk to them ? As I pointed out this is a public forum, use evemail as they suggested or post in their diplomacy forums if you don't want outsiders like me poking our noses in. Quote: I note that your NOT from distant thunder so obviously the rats you kill don't entertain you enough to go into a forum that is NOTHING to do with you and spam it with nonsense! To me YOU look the fool and you being involved in this is POINTLESS!! How do you justify complaining about whining by whining? You don't have to maybe?! Well just carry on contradicting yourself then I'm perfectly at ease with complaining about whining, I don't know if my complaining could be classified as whining, depends on your point of view. Perhaps that makes me a hypocrite, if so I'm not bothered by it. I'm merely helping you realize that your corpmate's stupidly whining on public forums about a private matter is only going to attract flames and disrespect for you all. Quote: ALSO: If the GM's REALLY had a problem with this forum they do have the power to remove it btw..... Obviously they feel it need be shared also. Jeez some of you guys need to think before tapping such utter bullc* on these forums.... spam, spam, spam...... Drivel. I seriously doubt any GM knows about this thread, perhaps you didn't notice but Exodus deployment has made them rather busy doing their jobs, leaving less time for the rantings of your troll friend. Perhaps you refer to the understaffed polaris volunteers who are not GMs? Indeed they should've locked this thread as soon as exploit whining took place, the fact that they didn't does not mean they want everyone to know how to exploit, rather that they're understaffed. http://eve.klaki.net/
Meow Meow	Posted - 2004.12.23 20:26:00 - [153] The fact that you continue takes it from being a complaint into a whine, if not then wehey. Still entitled to an opinion. Maybe you are right but you make alot of statements and curious towards your facts behind them but anyways, I got things to get on with and not gonna bother with this forum anymore. Anything you say after this post will merely be a power trip for you. Enjoy Will leave to SV to reply now as is mainly her post after all just wanted to show you how pointless you were being, not caring fair enough. Continue to make yourself look however you want. It's not like you have a RL image to maintain and in games such as these you can make yourself look as big an a**e as you like and no one will be any the wiser right? Beings as you have so much respect for this Thundr corp then you could pass the message on. I have asked a friend to pass the message on with regards to BraveSirRobin as it wouldn't look good coming from us for obvious reasons Ingame forums I can't honestly be bothered with either, as I said I tried to send a message on but no reply as of yet. If the guy can get a whole corp to declare war on another by lying about it then yes, maybe I agree with you on his cunning but doesn't say alot for the corp if that is the case
Meow Meow	Posted - 2004.12.23 20:26:00 - [154] The fact that you continue takes it from being a complaint into a whine, if not then wehey. Still entitled to an opinion. Maybe you are right but you make alot of statements and curious towards your facts behind them but anyways, I got things to get on with and not gonna bother with this forum anymore. Anything you say after this post will merely be a power trip for you. Enjoy Will leave to SV to reply now as is mainly her post after all just wanted to show you how pointless you were being, not caring fair enough. Continue to make yourself look however you want. It's not like you have a RL image to maintain and in games such as these you can make yourself look as big an a**e as you like and no one will be any the wiser right? Beings as you have so much respect for this Thundr corp then you could pass the message on. I have asked a friend to pass the message on with regards to BraveSirRobin as it wouldn't look good coming from us for obvious reasons Ingame forums I can't honestly be bothered with either, as I said I tried to send a message on but no reply as of yet. If the guy can get a whole corp to declare war on another by lying about it then yes, maybe I agree with you on his cunning but doesn't say alot for the corp if that is the case
Cintas	Posted - 2004.12.23 20:49:00 - [155] Well, I'm glad we got that sorted. It was a bug. Can we go back to fighting now please? Honestly, there is no point in this forum stuff, let's just get on with what we are here to do, play EVE..
Cintas	Posted - 2004.12.23 20:49:00 - [156] Well, I'm glad we got that sorted. It was a bug. Can we go back to fighting now please? Honestly, there is no point in this forum stuff, let's just get on with what we are here to do, play EVE..
HadHaFangs	Posted - 2004.12.23 21:14:00 - [157] haha Perssephone likes to send requests to the GM's to have ships replaced. As Trai said.. Wiseman say, Raven + Torp Splash Damage + Stargate = Bad idea. Scoundrel for hire. Dragons Rescued, Virginity Cured. No Brigandry Too Small. No Fee Too Large.
HadHaFangs	Posted - 2004.12.23 21:14:00 - [158] haha Perssephone likes to send requests to the GM's to have ships replaced. As Trai said.. Wiseman say, Raven + Torp Splash Damage + Stargate = Bad idea. Scoundrel for hire. Dragons Rescued, Virginity Cured. No Brigandry Too Small. No Fee Too Large.
Kozak	Posted - 2004.12.23 22:03:00 - [159] Originally by: V2GBR Its not an exploit. People call stuff like this exploits, but its something that CCP has not covered. IE a ****up. Im sure CCP in time will stop this. Exploit means cheat imho and they have not done that. You lost your ships due to a hole in CCP's working live with it and stop calling me Huffer. Listen, A while back there was a way to "duplicate" items. CCP never said it was an exploit. So by your logic it's a feature? Then CCP took everything back from those that used this feature and called it an exploit. An exploit is anything that you do using game mechanics in a way it wasn't intened. Doesn't matter if there is a loophole in the code. If CCP didn't intend it, then it's an exploit if it gives you an advantage over other players.
Kozak	Posted - 2004.12.23 22:03:00 - [160] Originally by: V2GBR Its not an exploit. People call stuff like this exploits, but its something that CCP has not covered. IE a ****up. Im sure CCP in time will stop this. Exploit means cheat imho and they have not done that. You lost your ships due to a hole in CCP's working live with it and stop calling me Huffer. Listen, A while back there was a way to "duplicate" items. CCP never said it was an exploit. So by your logic it's a feature? Then CCP took everything back from those that used this feature and called it an exploit. An exploit is anything that you do using game mechanics in a way it wasn't intened. Doesn't matter if there is a loophole in the code. If CCP didn't intend it, then it's an exploit if it gives you an advantage over other players.
Cintas	Posted - 2004.12.23 22:34:00 - [161] Yes I remember that to.
Cintas	Posted - 2004.12.23 22:34:00 - [162] Yes I remember that to.
Tzernelle	Posted - 2004.12.23 22:53:00 - [163] I'm a man of few words and i don't use to post in the forums but that affects my friends and corp members and i'm not going to accept it. Thanks to Tyrrax to speak in our favour, i must say i enjoyed my short days sharing the same corp with you. I'm the CO-Ceo of Distant Thunder, Zyranyth is on rl vacations so don't say more ** about him not being here to post and answer your whinnings. Here there's only a problem, maturity. If you ever feel something is wrong, there's a nice petition box to place your doubts and problems directly to CCP, and there's also a nice thing called convo where you can talk to the people who caused any problem and try to resolve things like people do, talking and thinking what they are saying and trying to get to a good end for both. The forums are to comment stuff and have fun with people, not to post ** about the game and the players. Try to grown and become responsible or your acts and act like a mature person. PD. Excuse for my english. Best Regards, Tzernelle Distant Thunder - Advisor http://thndr.taniz.org/
Tzernelle	Posted - 2004.12.23 22:53:00 - [164] I'm a man of few words and i don't use to post in the forums but that affects my friends and corp members and i'm not going to accept it. Thanks to Tyrrax to speak in our favour, i must say i enjoyed my short days sharing the same corp with you. I'm the CO-Ceo of Distant Thunder, Zyranyth is on rl vacations so don't say more ** about him not being here to post and answer your whinnings. Here there's only a problem, maturity. If you ever feel something is wrong, there's a nice petition box to place your doubts and problems directly to CCP, and there's also a nice thing called convo where you can talk to the people who caused any problem and try to resolve things like people do, talking and thinking what they are saying and trying to get to a good end for both. The forums are to comment stuff and have fun with people, not to post ** about the game and the players. Try to grown and become responsible or your acts and act like a mature person. PD. Excuse for my english. Best Regards, Tzernelle Distant Thunder - Advisor http://thndr.taniz.org/
Urfin	Posted - 2004.12.23 23:27:00 - [165] The GMs have replied our petition regarding the matter, and they say we should not have been able to enter an online forcefield by any means (our means being right click>approach). Borading ships inside the forcefield while being outside also should not be possible (again, our means were right click>board), according to the GMs. Therefore such actions are considered an exploit, that is - coming in contact with a beneficial bug knowingly or unknowingly, intentionally or not. If we follow this logic, clickng your wallet and consequentially having 1bil spawn in it is also an exploit and you should report it. Which we did. Net result: through our actions we have encountered a bug, but in our case it is not considered an exploit, due to the fact that a) it does not involve any special actions or tricks, and b) we petitioned it ourselves and provided detailed explaination of what we did, as well as FRAPSed it. The ships we boarded are returned back to their owners. We sincerely hope that 7vb will now stop these childish and futile attempts to harm our reputation, and instead actually fight us ingame.
Urfin	Posted - 2004.12.23 23:27:00 - [166] The GMs have replied our petition regarding the matter, and they say we should not have been able to enter an online forcefield by any means (our means being right click>approach). Borading ships inside the forcefield while being outside also should not be possible (again, our means were right click>board), according to the GMs. Therefore such actions are considered an exploit, that is - coming in contact with a beneficial bug knowingly or unknowingly, intentionally or not. If we follow this logic, clickng your wallet and consequentially having 1bil spawn in it is also an exploit and you should report it. Which we did. Net result: through our actions we have encountered a bug, but in our case it is not considered an exploit, due to the fact that a) it does not involve any special actions or tricks, and b) we petitioned it ourselves and provided detailed explaination of what we did, as well as FRAPSed it. The ships we boarded are returned back to their owners. We sincerely hope that 7vb will now stop these childish and futile attempts to harm our reputation, and instead actually fight us ingame.
Meow Meow	Posted - 2004.12.24 00:06:00 - [167] Right. Hopefully that's it then. Some names have been thrown in both directions. As for tainting a reputation both have had a go at each and tbh we never knew that you were contacted with the people that you are contacted with and me personally had never heard of your corp before. I wasn't aware that your CEO was away but honestly he has been spoken to by a friend of mine. That is 100% no lies but beings as he's away which as I said I was unaware of then of course it would be unfair to use him in defence. My appologies for how extreme this got but merely wanting to defend my corp members. As I'm sure ANY corp will understand that they would do in the same situation. Anger of course is something that can rarely be stopped though and we were VERY angry about the situation as is all to obviously available to see. Maybe we should have gone about it a different route instead of flaming on a forum but some of THUNDR and trying desperately NOT to offend here, have seemed unapproachable to me. My only contact was with Bokudo and never got put on to any other corp member so as said, that was my only contact Am VERY glad to hear that things have been sorted and can now go back to a non-flaming, enjoyable, having a laugh PvP'n session. Thanks also to Kozak for clarifying the subject on "Exploit" as put everything into perspective Let the fun factor recommence
Meow Meow	Posted - 2004.12.24 00:06:00 - [168] Right. Hopefully that's it then. Some names have been thrown in both directions. As for tainting a reputation both have had a go at each and tbh we never knew that you were contacted with the people that you are contacted with and me personally had never heard of your corp before. I wasn't aware that your CEO was away but honestly he has been spoken to by a friend of mine. That is 100% no lies but beings as he's away which as I said I was unaware of then of course it would be unfair to use him in defence. My appologies for how extreme this got but merely wanting to defend my corp members. As I'm sure ANY corp will understand that they would do in the same situation. Anger of course is something that can rarely be stopped though and we were VERY angry about the situation as is all to obviously available to see. Maybe we should have gone about it a different route instead of flaming on a forum but some of THUNDR and trying desperately NOT to offend here, have seemed unapproachable to me. My only contact was with Bokudo and never got put on to any other corp member so as said, that was my only contact Am VERY glad to hear that things have been sorted and can now go back to a non-flaming, enjoyable, having a laugh PvP'n session. Thanks also to Kozak for clarifying the subject on "Exploit" as put everything into perspective Let the fun factor recommence
Sticky Vicky	Posted - 2004.12.24 00:36:00 - [169] Sadly a thread like this is still the most effective way to get a fast response out of CCP. Some may call it flame bating, some may see it as a means to an end
Sticky Vicky	Posted - 2004.12.24 00:36:00 - [170] Sadly a thread like this is still the most effective way to get a fast response out of CCP. Some may call it flame bating, some may see it as a means to an end
Zyranyth	Posted - 2004.12.24 12:50:00 - [171] I have seen alot of things, but I apparently still can be very suprised. My personal apologies to the members of 7th viermacht brigade for the level of smacking and flaming this has escalated into on both of our parts. No, we were not contracted to fight you, but you we're sending threatening mails to one of our members, and we take care of our own. And yes, I am on vacations. Your friend (wink) did talk to me yes, but unfortunately I am not able to be logged in as much as I want to (say, addict?). Now, lets all just zip it, be friends, and slit the throats of eachother in silence instead. We all can (and will, I hope) do better than this. PS. I can't seem to count the kills to the same results as some others. Let this statement speak for itself. No pun intended. Merry Christmas, Zyranyth Distant Thunder
Zyranyth	Posted - 2004.12.24 12:50:00 - [172] I have seen alot of things, but I apparently still can be very suprised. My personal apologies to the members of 7th viermacht brigade for the level of smacking and flaming this has escalated into on both of our parts. No, we were not contracted to fight you, but you we're sending threatening mails to one of our members, and we take care of our own. And yes, I am on vacations. Your friend (wink) did talk to me yes, but unfortunately I am not able to be logged in as much as I want to (say, addict?). Now, lets all just zip it, be friends, and slit the throats of eachother in silence instead. We all can (and will, I hope) do better than this. PS. I can't seem to count the kills to the same results as some others. Let this statement speak for itself. No pun intended. Merry Christmas, Zyranyth Distant Thunder
Meow Meow	Posted - 2004.12.24 13:13:00 - [173] This is exactly the matter that through the forums I've tried to make stand out more than any though. I knew full well you weren't contracted but to the best of my knowledge there hasn't been a single threatening mail to the guy (we all know who he is) and tbh he needs to seriously be loooked at more closely as me and other's have only heard what trouble he gets into along with our contract on his previous corp being partly to do with him should speak it's own volumes surely. I stress this point as have only recently seen how popular you guys are and this guy will not help you get a better rep but prolly taint it or destroy it then leave. The better majority of THUNDR that I've talked too on occasion's in local and tbh had a good laugh with them and also I think it's all a waste of time and effort! ie: I love that you camp us when we're outnumbered and also the way we camp you when your out numbered, yawn! P.S. Could I be sent a copy of these mails for information along with who they were sent by as it could be as well as me thinking you should look into your corp member (not that it's my business) but maybe we need to revise our tactfulness also
Meow Meow	Posted - 2004.12.24 13:13:00 - [174] This is exactly the matter that through the forums I've tried to make stand out more than any though. I knew full well you weren't contracted but to the best of my knowledge there hasn't been a single threatening mail to the guy (we all know who he is) and tbh he needs to seriously be loooked at more closely as me and other's have only heard what trouble he gets into along with our contract on his previous corp being partly to do with him should speak it's own volumes surely. I stress this point as have only recently seen how popular you guys are and this guy will not help you get a better rep but prolly taint it or destroy it then leave. The better majority of THUNDR that I've talked too on occasion's in local and tbh had a good laugh with them and also I think it's all a waste of time and effort! ie: I love that you camp us when we're outnumbered and also the way we camp you when your out numbered, yawn! P.S. Could I be sent a copy of these mails for information along with who they were sent by as it could be as well as me thinking you should look into your corp member (not that it's my business) but maybe we need to revise our tactfulness also
BraveSirRobin	Posted - 2004.12.24 17:21:00 - [175] Purely on the use of the term threatening and regarding eve mails the member we're talking about recieved. I believe the phrase is smack and if we examine the meanings of the word smack in this, and not the drug relateted, context we will find that theres an element of harassment and put downs. I think from that we could consitiute the word threatening. I have it on supreme authority that the said member of thunder is actually pretty good natured and replied with an eve mail declaring that his sole stand point is one revolving around having fun in eve, be that in pvp or whatever. At the same time one might constitute that smack stands in the way of having fun at times. Still I hear that another thndr member has been recently smacked in the same mannor by v7 members perhaps then smack as part of v7's modus operandi. Either way like everyone says, and with that final word cleared up, lets get on with the fun and forget the smack. Good luck to everyone on the field, errr void vaccum of endless silent space rather :-).
BraveSirRobin	Posted - 2004.12.24 17:21:00 - [176] Purely on the use of the term threatening and regarding eve mails the member we're talking about recieved. I believe the phrase is smack and if we examine the meanings of the word smack in this, and not the drug relateted, context we will find that theres an element of harassment and put downs. I think from that we could consitiute the word threatening. I have it on supreme authority that the said member of thunder is actually pretty good natured and replied with an eve mail declaring that his sole stand point is one revolving around having fun in eve, be that in pvp or whatever. At the same time one might constitute that smack stands in the way of having fun at times. Still I hear that another thndr member has been recently smacked in the same mannor by v7 members perhaps then smack as part of v7's modus operandi. Either way like everyone says, and with that final word cleared up, lets get on with the fun and forget the smack. Good luck to everyone on the field, errr void vaccum of endless silent space rather :-).
Meow Meow	Posted - 2004.12.24 21:10:00 - [177] So that's a no to the mails/proof being passed on then?
Meow Meow	Posted - 2004.12.24 21:10:00 - [178] So that's a no to the mails/proof being passed on then?
Garrack	Posted - 2004.12.29 15:26:00 - [179] Edited by: Garrack on 29/12/2004 15:35:33 Ok, this is rediculous. Pre and the whole V7 lot are essentially a bunch of windbags. They pick on what they -think- are helpless corps, harrass them and extort them for cash. They mercilessly gank the helpless noobs in miner configs, and run like little babies the second one of the more experienced players undocks in a Raven. In truth, V7's approach is a reasonably effective IDEA... even a small corp such as them can generally take advantage of a lot of very peaceful operations in Eve and just take a 40M+ payoff and move on. A good IDEA, that is, but VERY poorly implemented by the not-so-clueful band of folks over at V7. They are disorganized, not very good fighters, and worst of all they LAMELY blame their own really poor and lame losses on game bugs and tout their farcical successes with unbridled delusion. I mean SERIOUSLY... I have actually seen Presephone fire torpedos at a Dom that was deliberately hugging a stargate. She lost her ship to Concord, she calls it a bug. Hello? I have seen (I think it was Vicky) fire at one of my corp members who seconds before deliberately left the corp to see if she would be dumb enough to fire on him... yup. Gee, another ship lost to Concord. All in all, I think V7 lost as many ships to CONCORD as they did to us, and that was mainly because we were deliberately taking advantage of their poor gameplay. Then they get on the forums, puff up their chests, claim that I begged for mercy, yadda yadda. Claim that every loss was due to a bug, and they got their ships back. Utter BS... and if CCP is really giving them their ships back for this crap, then I've lost ALL respect for them. (I'm pretty sure they are not, despite their claims) I mean come ON... any IDIOT who has played this game for ANY length of time barely even dares to chuck a missile within reasonable range of Concord, let alone unleash a slew of torps. Pre's char (an alt, btw) is nearly as old as my own... going on a year now I think. And leaving a POS without adequate resources to keep it running when you CLEARLY are going to have every miner corp within 40 hops hating you and probably paying people to hunt you down? DURRRRR... YES, I agree... Distant Thunder are guilty of a severe exploit... that be exploiting your UTTER failure at coming even remotely close to competantly running what should be an EXTREMELY simple and effective operation. Puff up all you want, Pre and the gang, but even my band of miners outdid you in a war once... any REAL PvP corp would eat you guys for breakfast.
Garrack	Posted - 2004.12.29 15:26:00 - [180] Edited by: Garrack on 29/12/2004 15:35:33 Ok, this is rediculous. Pre and the whole V7 lot are essentially a bunch of windbags. They pick on what they -think- are helpless corps, harrass them and extort them for cash. They mercilessly gank the helpless noobs in miner configs, and run like little babies the second one of the more experienced players undocks in a Raven. In truth, V7's approach is a reasonably effective IDEA... even a small corp such as them can generally take advantage of a lot of very peaceful operations in Eve and just take a 40M+ payoff and move on. A good IDEA, that is, but VERY poorly implemented by the not-so-clueful band of folks over at V7. They are disorganized, not very good fighters, and worst of all they LAMELY blame their own really poor and lame losses on game bugs and tout their farcical successes with unbridled delusion. I mean SERIOUSLY... I have actually seen Presephone fire torpedos at a Dom that was deliberately hugging a stargate. She lost her ship to Concord, she calls it a bug. Hello? I have seen (I think it was Vicky) fire at one of my corp members who seconds before deliberately left the corp to see if she would be dumb enough to fire on him... yup. Gee, another ship lost to Concord. All in all, I think V7 lost as many ships to CONCORD as they did to us, and that was mainly because we were deliberately taking advantage of their poor gameplay. Then they get on the forums, puff up their chests, claim that I begged for mercy, yadda yadda. Claim that every loss was due to a bug, and they got their ships back. Utter BS... and if CCP is really giving them their ships back for this crap, then I've lost ALL respect for them. (I'm pretty sure they are not, despite their claims) I mean come ON... any IDIOT who has played this game for ANY length of time barely even dares to chuck a missile within reasonable range of Concord, let alone unleash a slew of torps. Pre's char (an alt, btw) is nearly as old as my own... going on a year now I think. And leaving a POS without adequate resources to keep it running when you CLEARLY are going to have every miner corp within 40 hops hating you and probably paying people to hunt you down? DURRRRR... YES, I agree... Distant Thunder are guilty of a severe exploit... that be exploiting your UTTER failure at coming even remotely close to competantly running what should be an EXTREMELY simple and effective operation. Puff up all you want, Pre and the gang, but even my band of miners outdid you in a war once... any REAL PvP corp would eat you guys for breakfast.
Traiben Mightius	Posted - 2004.12.29 15:50:00 - [181] Let me see... Yep, starting right from the thread starter we have five pages of discussions on bans, exploits, GM responses, petitions & personal attacks. Aren't there some rules about stuff like that?
Traiben Mightius	Posted - 2004.12.29 15:50:00 - [182] Let me see... Yep, starting right from the thread starter we have five pages of discussions on bans, exploits, GM responses, petitions & personal attacks. Aren't there some rules about stuff like that?
Palitir	Posted - 2004.12.29 17:07:00 - [183] /me waits for the thread to die .. die ============================ . OMGBUHU I am teh one with wierd setups.
Palitir	Posted - 2004.12.29 17:07:00 - [184] /me waits for the thread to die .. die ============================ . OMGBUHU I am teh one with wierd setups.
Meow Meow	Posted - 2004.12.29 19:56:00 - [185] First of all Garrack. GET A CLUE! This forum bashing is ridiculous but you putting yourself on here is only amplifying what you are which is ridiculous and getting involved in what is already a rectified flaming forum with DT and are currently warring and enjoying the war... Useless windbags... Your a hopeless whinge bag then... Oh no that means bowing to a lower lvl, forget that. We enjoy the game and only "run" as you so brainvacantly put it for a regathering of tactics. Ask any "decent" PvP corp (DT even done it recently) and they'll agree that that it needs be done, as for the raven undocking I don't recall that being a situation EVER! maybe if we were in frigs and cruiser out on a having a laugh bash around then possibly but even then still unlikely. For puffing chests Chests need to be puffed when deserved, good for morale CCP has bugs, ccp say they fix bugs just so happens that 7VB find bugs reportedly fixed and of course they're going to be replaced... What are you on man? Poor gameplay? Are you trying to get us declare war on you again just so you can sit in the stations looking for every lame forum to make an even lamer response on? We've all admitted that things got a little outta hand... Time for you to move along! Any PvP corp is on our doorstep and we are doing VERY well in all honesty! lost about 5m's worth of things and they've lost 250m's and these are ex-CA some of them. No names mentioned due to me prolly getting flamed for the sheer mentioning Good to see that the AIII gang have got SO MUCH TIME ON THEIR HANDS now... We'll declare war again no doubt, just to see you all running and whimpering in stations again! Now unless you really have to make yourself look more the fool please STFU and bother someone elses corp as your just waisting your time. See you on the Battlefield
Meow Meow	Posted - 2004.12.29 19:56:00 - [186] First of all Garrack. GET A CLUE! This forum bashing is ridiculous but you putting yourself on here is only amplifying what you are which is ridiculous and getting involved in what is already a rectified flaming forum with DT and are currently warring and enjoying the war... Useless windbags... Your a hopeless whinge bag then... Oh no that means bowing to a lower lvl, forget that. We enjoy the game and only "run" as you so brainvacantly put it for a regathering of tactics. Ask any "decent" PvP corp (DT even done it recently) and they'll agree that that it needs be done, as for the raven undocking I don't recall that being a situation EVER! maybe if we were in frigs and cruiser out on a having a laugh bash around then possibly but even then still unlikely. For puffing chests Chests need to be puffed when deserved, good for morale CCP has bugs, ccp say they fix bugs just so happens that 7VB find bugs reportedly fixed and of course they're going to be replaced... What are you on man? Poor gameplay? Are you trying to get us declare war on you again just so you can sit in the stations looking for every lame forum to make an even lamer response on? We've all admitted that things got a little outta hand... Time for you to move along! Any PvP corp is on our doorstep and we are doing VERY well in all honesty! lost about 5m's worth of things and they've lost 250m's and these are ex-CA some of them. No names mentioned due to me prolly getting flamed for the sheer mentioning Good to see that the AIII gang have got SO MUCH TIME ON THEIR HANDS now... We'll declare war again no doubt, just to see you all running and whimpering in stations again! Now unless you really have to make yourself look more the fool please STFU and bother someone elses corp as your just waisting your time. See you on the Battlefield
Sticky Vicky	Posted - 2004.12.29 21:04:00 - [187] Originally by: Garrack Edited by: Garrack on 29/12/2004 15:35:33 Ok, this is rediculous. Pre and the whole V7 lot are essentially a bunch of windbags. They pick on what they -think- are helpless corps, harrass them and extort them for cash. They mercilessly gank the helpless noobs in miner configs, and run like little babies the second one of the more experienced players undocks in a Raven. In truth, V7's approach is a reasonably effective IDEA... even a small corp such as them can generally take advantage of a lot of very peaceful operations in Eve and just take a 40M+ payoff and move on. A good IDEA, that is, but VERY poorly implemented by the not-so-clueful band of folks over at V7. They are disorganized, not very good fighters, and worst of all they LAMELY blame their own really poor and lame losses on game bugs and tout their farcical successes with unbridled delusion. I mean SERIOUSLY... I have actually seen Presephone fire torpedos at a Dom that was deliberately hugging a stargate. She lost her ship to Concord, she calls it a bug. Hello? I have seen (I think it was Vicky) fire at one of my corp members who seconds before deliberately left the corp to see if she would be dumb enough to fire on him... yup. Gee, another ship lost to Concord. All in all, I think V7 lost as many ships to CONCORD as they did to us, and that was mainly because we were deliberately taking advantage of their poor gameplay. Then they get on the forums, puff up their chests, claim that I begged for mercy, yadda yadda. Claim that every loss was due to a bug, and they got their ships back. Utter BS... and if CCP is really giving them their ships back for this crap, then I've lost ALL respect for them. (I'm pretty sure they are not, despite their claims) I mean come ON... any IDIOT who has played this game for ANY length of time barely even dares to chuck a missile within reasonable range of Concord, let alone unleash a slew of torps. Pre's char (an alt, btw) is nearly as old as my own... going on a year now I think. And leaving a POS without adequate resources to keep it running when you CLEARLY are going to have every miner corp within 40 hops hating you and probably paying people to hunt you down? DURRRRR... YES, I agree... Distant Thunder are guilty of a severe exploit... that be exploiting your UTTER failure at coming even remotely close to competantly running what should be an EXTREMELY simple and effective operation. Puff up all you want, Pre and the gang, but even my band of miners outdid you in a war once... any REAL PvP corp would eat you guys for breakfast. Hope you didnt pay Distant Thunder too much isk (30 member merc corp)to declare war on us I'd be asking for a refund and looking for another "REAL PvP corp" to take up the contract.
Sticky Vicky	Posted - 2004.12.29 21:04:00 - [188] Originally by: Garrack Edited by: Garrack on 29/12/2004 15:35:33 Ok, this is rediculous. Pre and the whole V7 lot are essentially a bunch of windbags. They pick on what they -think- are helpless corps, harrass them and extort them for cash. They mercilessly gank the helpless noobs in miner configs, and run like little babies the second one of the more experienced players undocks in a Raven. In truth, V7's approach is a reasonably effective IDEA... even a small corp such as them can generally take advantage of a lot of very peaceful operations in Eve and just take a 40M+ payoff and move on. A good IDEA, that is, but VERY poorly implemented by the not-so-clueful band of folks over at V7. They are disorganized, not very good fighters, and worst of all they LAMELY blame their own really poor and lame losses on game bugs and tout their farcical successes with unbridled delusion. I mean SERIOUSLY... I have actually seen Presephone fire torpedos at a Dom that was deliberately hugging a stargate. She lost her ship to Concord, she calls it a bug. Hello? I have seen (I think it was Vicky) fire at one of my corp members who seconds before deliberately left the corp to see if she would be dumb enough to fire on him... yup. Gee, another ship lost to Concord. All in all, I think V7 lost as many ships to CONCORD as they did to us, and that was mainly because we were deliberately taking advantage of their poor gameplay. Then they get on the forums, puff up their chests, claim that I begged for mercy, yadda yadda. Claim that every loss was due to a bug, and they got their ships back. Utter BS... and if CCP is really giving them their ships back for this crap, then I've lost ALL respect for them. (I'm pretty sure they are not, despite their claims) I mean come ON... any IDIOT who has played this game for ANY length of time barely even dares to chuck a missile within reasonable range of Concord, let alone unleash a slew of torps. Pre's char (an alt, btw) is nearly as old as my own... going on a year now I think. And leaving a POS without adequate resources to keep it running when you CLEARLY are going to have every miner corp within 40 hops hating you and probably paying people to hunt you down? DURRRRR... YES, I agree... Distant Thunder are guilty of a severe exploit... that be exploiting your UTTER failure at coming even remotely close to competantly running what should be an EXTREMELY simple and effective operation. Puff up all you want, Pre and the gang, but even my band of miners outdid you in a war once... any REAL PvP corp would eat you guys for breakfast. Hope you didnt pay Distant Thunder too much isk (30 member merc corp)to declare war on us I'd be asking for a refund and looking for another "REAL PvP corp" to take up the contract.
Neamus	Posted - 2004.12.29 21:23:00 - [189] Sounding a little bitter there Garrack...
Neamus	Posted - 2004.12.29 21:23:00 - [190] Sounding a little bitter there Garrack...
Sticky Vicky	Posted - 2004.12.29 21:30:00 - [191] Originally by: Garrack Edited by: Garrack on 29/12/2004 15:35:33 Ok, this is rediculous. Pre and the whole V7 lot are essentially a bunch of windbags. They pick on what they -think- are helpless corps, harrass them and extort them for cash. They mercilessly gank the helpless noobs in miner configs, and run like little babies the second one of the more experienced players undocks in a Raven. Yarrrrr! Quote: In truth, V7's approach is a reasonably effective IDEA... even a small corp such as them can generally take advantage of a lot of very peaceful operations in Eve and just take a 40M+ payoff and move on. We have a winner, pay or loose most of your corp members. Just give us a reason.. (good way off weeding out the ) Quote: They are disorganized, not very good fighters, and worst of all they LAMELY blame their own really poor and lame losses on game bugs and tout their farcical successes with unbridled delusion. I'd really like to hear a Distant Thunder response to this... I've see you log in once or twice over the past month, need to get with the times buddy Quote: I have actually seen Presephone fire torpedos at a Dom that was deliberately hugging a stargate. She lost her ship to Concord, she calls it a bug. Hello? I have seen (I think it was Vicky) fire at one of my corp members who seconds before deliberately left the corp to see if she would be dumb enough to fire on him... yup. Gee, another ship lost to Concord. All in all, I think V7 lost as many ships to CONCORD as they did to us, and that was mainly because we were deliberately taking advantage of their poor gameplay. Then they get on the forums, puff up their chests, claim that I begged for mercy, yadda yadda. Claim that every loss was due to a bug, and they got their ships back. Utter BS... and if CCP is really giving them their ships back for this crap, then I've lost ALL respect for them. (I'm pretty sure they are not, despite their claims) I mean come ON... any IDIOT who has played this game for ANY length of time barely even dares to chuck a missile within reasonable range of Concord, let alone unleash a slew of torps. Pre's char (an alt, btw) is nearly as old as my own... going on a year now I think. Heh i told pers not to mess around with smartbombs on the day of exodus release, thing is we always go for the kill, ask anyone who has fought us. Insurance is good, mmmkay? /emote Thanks the GM's for replacing the ship.. Quote: And leaving a POS without adequate resources to keep it running when you CLEARLY are going to have every miner corp within 40 hops hating you and probably paying people to hunt you down? DURRRRR... YES, I agree... Distant Thunder are guilty of a severe exploit... that be exploiting your UTTER failure at coming even remotely close to competantly running what should be an EXTREMELY simple and effective operation. Clueless noob. We would have done the same as Distant Thunder and im sure they would have pettitioned it. Fuel was never an issue. We have the isk to keep one of those running for months Quote: Puff up all you want, Pre and the gang, but even my band of miners outdid you in a war once... any REAL PvP corp would eat you guys for breakfast. We have had breakfast, what is for lunch? *Only good thing to come from your crying is the current war with Distant Thunder. Props to them, they keep coming and coming. I have alot of respect for those guys. Why dont you join them so we can fight this out in space, trust me. Its more fun than chewing on omber . Dominix = 70,000 isk. Apocaylpse = 115,000 isk. The resulting smacktalk = Priceless.
Sticky Vicky	Posted - 2004.12.29 21:30:00 - [192] Originally by: Garrack Edited by: Garrack on 29/12/2004 15:35:33 Ok, this is rediculous. Pre and the whole V7 lot are essentially a bunch of windbags. They pick on what they -think- are helpless corps, harrass them and extort them for cash. They mercilessly gank the helpless noobs in miner configs, and run like little babies the second one of the more experienced players undocks in a Raven. Yarrrrr! Quote: In truth, V7's approach is a reasonably effective IDEA... even a small corp such as them can generally take advantage of a lot of very peaceful operations in Eve and just take a 40M+ payoff and move on. We have a winner, pay or loose most of your corp members. Just give us a reason.. (good way off weeding out the ) Quote: They are disorganized, not very good fighters, and worst of all they LAMELY blame their own really poor and lame losses on game bugs and tout their farcical successes with unbridled delusion. I'd really like to hear a Distant Thunder response to this... I've see you log in once or twice over the past month, need to get with the times buddy Quote: I have actually seen Presephone fire torpedos at a Dom that was deliberately hugging a stargate. She lost her ship to Concord, she calls it a bug. Hello? I have seen (I think it was Vicky) fire at one of my corp members who seconds before deliberately left the corp to see if she would be dumb enough to fire on him... yup. Gee, another ship lost to Concord. All in all, I think V7 lost as many ships to CONCORD as they did to us, and that was mainly because we were deliberately taking advantage of their poor gameplay. Then they get on the forums, puff up their chests, claim that I begged for mercy, yadda yadda. Claim that every loss was due to a bug, and they got their ships back. Utter BS... and if CCP is really giving them their ships back for this crap, then I've lost ALL respect for them. (I'm pretty sure they are not, despite their claims) I mean come ON... any IDIOT who has played this game for ANY length of time barely even dares to chuck a missile within reasonable range of Concord, let alone unleash a slew of torps. Pre's char (an alt, btw) is nearly as old as my own... going on a year now I think. Heh i told pers not to mess around with smartbombs on the day of exodus release, thing is we always go for the kill, ask anyone who has fought us. Insurance is good, mmmkay? /emote Thanks the GM's for replacing the ship.. Quote: And leaving a POS without adequate resources to keep it running when you CLEARLY are going to have every miner corp within 40 hops hating you and probably paying people to hunt you down? DURRRRR... YES, I agree... Distant Thunder are guilty of a severe exploit... that be exploiting your UTTER failure at coming even remotely close to competantly running what should be an EXTREMELY simple and effective operation. Clueless noob. We would have done the same as Distant Thunder and im sure they would have pettitioned it. Fuel was never an issue. We have the isk to keep one of those running for months Quote: Puff up all you want, Pre and the gang, but even my band of miners outdid you in a war once... any REAL PvP corp would eat you guys for breakfast. We have had breakfast, what is for lunch? *Only good thing to come from your crying is the current war with Distant Thunder. Props to them, they keep coming and coming. I have alot of respect for those guys. Why dont you join them so we can fight this out in space, trust me. Its more fun than chewing on omber . Dominix = 70,000 isk. Apocaylpse = 115,000 isk. The resulting smacktalk = Priceless.

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