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REctum Master	Posted - 2010.09.16 11:16:00 - [271] mission running, cnr, golem, tengu .. same old crap all over. try 0.0 , machariel. 75-90 mil an hour. no work other than pew pew. vargur can probably top 100mil with salvage. heres the proof Linkage everything under 25 mil a tick is either afk/tea/toilet/neut .. u get the picture. lvl4s are overrated !
Chesty McJubblies Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2010.09.16 11:20:00 - [272] Originally by: Moose Burger bumping this up for a buddy ..because you couldn't just send him the link. Seems like your ego is the real reason for the bump. Suggestion: Remove the "new topic" button from everywhere apart from the list of topics section within a subforum. That'd save those with chronic hand/eye coordination some face.
Moose Burger	Posted - 2010.09.16 13:00:00 - [273] bumping is way easier then making a new topic. load bookmark--> spamspam--> If i try for any more actions, it might reduce my isk/hour, as im currently in the middle of blockade. Btw. im not really interested in pve'ing in 0.0 The only way ill be persuaded to go 0.0, is if the isk/hour is approximately more then 180m-200m isk/hour, which is slightly more then what i get with 3.0-3.5K/Lp conversion, adding a factor of 10% to hedge for my risk. On all honesty, i prefer staying high sec, because all i need to look for are ships with sebo's, indies and ninja's, which is much less stressing then constant scanning. Also, I love my passive income generated from being close to rens/jita/dodixie, boosting my isk/hour further with my trading .
Gim Memore Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2010.09.16 18:07:00 - [274] Edited by: Gim Memore on 16/09/2010 18:09:44 OK so maybe I'm a ******, but I have been using http://www.ellatha.com/eve/LP-Stores to try and find items worth 2k isk per lp, and im finding it pretty much impossible, never mind 3k+. It seems hard enough to find something thats even worth over 1k. Most corps within a faction seems to have the same stuff, with maybe some having less choice than another. Are there any general tips on types of corps / items to take a look at? people have dropped hints about BPCs and armour hacs, but even imperial navy nano membranes n stuff seem to have v poor rate of return.
Liang Nuren Parsec Flux War.Pigs.	Posted - 2010.09.16 19:03:00 - [275] Originally by: Gim Memore It seems hard enough to find something thats even worth over 1k. Most corps within a faction seems to have the same stuff, with maybe some having less choice than another. Are there any general tips on types of corps / items to take a look at? people have dropped hints about BPCs and armour hacs, but even imperial navy nano membranes n stuff seem to have v poor rate of return. I posted (most of) the math for the 5 run IN EANM BPC earlier in the thread.... and they hadn't dropped in price last I looked. -Liang -- Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire On Twitter Blog
Gim Memore Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2010.09.16 19:31:00 - [276] Originally by: Liang Nuren Originally by: Gim Memore It seems hard enough to find something thats even worth over 1k. Most corps within a faction seems to have the same stuff, with maybe some having less choice than another. Are there any general tips on types of corps / items to take a look at? people have dropped hints about BPCs and armour hacs, but even imperial navy nano membranes n stuff seem to have v poor rate of return. I posted (most of) the math for the 5 run IN EANM BPC earlier in the thread.... and they hadn't dropped in price last I looked. -Liang Yeah thanks, it's the 5 run bpcs i wasnt seeing!
Moose Burger	Posted - 2010.09.16 22:27:00 - [277] Well, there are alliances and corps which books them by the hundreds (yes) at 36-37m each and it sets a huge minimum price to it regardless of the Conversion rate I also earn more sometimes because i can sell via private contracts to them. The only bad thing is that, mili is horrible, and my golem-tengu toon earns way faster LP then my nightmare-macha toon stationed in amarr space, which is probably why i stick to gallente. Plus the possibility of making 6-7 K isk/LP in G-space, although the volume is rather low (have to fight with sansha item)
Gim Memore Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2010.09.17 12:14:00 - [278] Originally by: Moose Burger Well, there are alliances and corps which books them by the hundreds (yes) at 36-37m each and it sets a huge minimum price to it regardless of the Conversion rate I also earn more sometimes because i can sell via private contracts to them. The only bad thing is that, mili is horrible, and my golem-tengu toon earns way faster LP then my nightmare-macha toon stationed in amarr space, which is probably why i stick to gallente. Plus the possibility of making 6-7 K isk/LP in G-space, although the volume is rather low (have to fight with sansha item) Are you talking about the blueprints here or the final item? I looked for contracts for blueprints and there aren't exactly a lot out there, for either buying or selling. Having to make the items from the blueprints would obviously reduce the isk/lp a lot.
Moose Burger	Posted - 2010.09.17 12:23:00 - [279] Most of the time it only takes 100-200K isk to make a run of the item.
Electra Jones	Posted - 2010.09.17 13:50:00 - [280] Originally by: Moose Burger CNR is a very good ship :) But i use Tengu because its better, mostly because it warps and allign faster. Most of my timings are "95%-i-can-get" timings for example, stop the thief can be completed in even 3-4 minutes. But im 95% guaranteed to hand in the mission in 5 minutes. I hate arguing about insignificant stuff like this, thats why i took generously bad numbers. For example, now ive mechanically improved my timings consistency by using AB and bane torps. A simple example on how mechanical gaming can improve mission times is Blockade = 100% doable in 11 minutes, ignoring second final spawns 4 battleships. Sometimes finished in 9-10 minutes Angel Extravaganza = 100% doable in 19-20 minutes. very consistent. and some other minor improvements simply by choosing targets correctly and abusing bane /faction missiles at the correct timings. But as i said. CNR is definitely one of the top mission runners. Its an incredibly good ship. I have to say I'm very impressed by those timings so it's not surprising that you can rack up the amounts you say. Presumably you need to spend some serious isk on mods and ships to be able to do this? Personally I've always kite'd missions so when I warp in to a deadspace mission i tend to align to something and move away, which no doubt increases my times (45mins for angel ex for instance). I'd appreciate some tips on how to speed things up (without maybe spending a shed load of isk if possible :) ) as I find I can't do missions for longer than a couple of hours at a time without becoming brain dead.

Gim Memore Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2010.09.17 19:07:00 - [281] does the amount of lp gain an agent gives per mission based on their quality alone? Im not talking about social skills, but about different corporations etc? So assuming same skills and standings, will two agents of different corps give same lp for same missions if theyre the same quality?
Moose Burger	Posted - 2010.09.18 02:34:00 - [282] First you want the BEST LP store Then you want the lowest system security rating Then you want the best quality of agent. Something like Q12 0.5 Q15 0.6 Q18 0.7 are all approximately equally good
Moose Burger	Posted - 2010.09.18 13:15:00 - [283] Btw. i have a question. I have a some 20-30b iskies to buy a toon. And this toon myself, a macha/nightmare pilot with (iv/v gunnery, large proj+large lasers, all racial BS,level IV socials) Think i should bio mass this toon for a super capital toon? discuss. I kinda biomassed frozean for a pvp toon. Now its this toon's turn to be the lowest SP toon in mah account. So i wonder if i should get rid of it or not.
King Aires Kwame's Executive Protection Detail	Posted - 2010.09.18 14:18:00 - [284] Originally by: Moose Burger Btw. i have a question. I have a some 20-30b iskies to buy a toon. And this toon myself, a macha/nightmare pilot with (iv/v gunnery, large proj+large lasers, all racial BS,level IV socials) Think i should bio mass this toon for a super capital toon? discuss. I kinda biomassed frozean for a pvp toon. Now its this toon's turn to be the lowest SP toon in mah account. So i wonder if i should get rid of it or not. So I am just running some numbers here, stop me when it sounds like your selling time cards like a used car salesman sells junkers. 20-30b iskies eh... that's a big spread, what is it, 20 or 30? So you have at least 30bil, that would take you, using your crazy ass numbers 300 hours of missioning. 30bil now, plus you have bought 3 toons, biomassed at least one. So you have 30bil plus the 10bil you spent on toons. You do not sell your toons, you biomass them, giving you no offset income. You made this thread 5 weeks ago. Your account is less than a year old. Ready, set, math: 168 hours in a week 161 hours of maximum eve up-time 112 hours of usuable time each week for an average human 40bil / 100mil (lol) = 400 hours of missions at no bathroom breaks, no food breaks, no shower breaks You bought another PVE toon and a PVP toon the second and third week of August. You had little to no isk left after those purchases. You telling us you made an additional 30bil isk, in 4-5 weeks, meaning you play an average of 60 hours a week of missions + you never loose anything to pvp or you never buy anything to upgrade your mission ship? I think you like the thought of yourself way too much. You are a legend in your own mind. The views expressed above are not those of my corp or an expression of where my corp stands.
Psychotic Maniac Caldari Head Shrinkers	Posted - 2010.09.18 14:40:00 - [285] Edited by: Psychotic Maniac on 18/09/2010 14:42:56 who cares how much you make missioning. you're playing the game wrong as if it's a job. you'll be stuck in high sec. forever and never enjoy eve the way it's suppose to be. MMO stands for what? do yourself a favor. find a good corp/alliance and go to null sec already you f*kin carebear. -- "You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you." -John Wooden
Moose Burger	Posted - 2010.09.18 15:17:00 - [286] Good luck buying PLEX in malaysia
Moose Burger	Posted - 2010.09.18 15:20:00 - [287] Edited by: Moose Burger on 18/09/2010 15:22:25 Well, a very highly skilled super capital 0.0 l33t high efficiency corp pilot said to me that, dont pvp until you are able to blob stuffs with 1000 super capitals. So im aiming to fly super capitals (lag post -.-)
Gim Memore Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2010.09.18 16:13:00 - [288] Originally by: Moose Burger Edited by: Moose Burger on 18/09/2010 15:22:25 Well, a very highly skilled super capital 0.0 l33t high efficiency corp pilot said to me that, dont pvp until you are able to blob stuffs with 1000 super capitals. So im aiming to fly super capitals (lag post -.-) He's an idiot or you are trolling :p blobbing with hundred of ppl is the most boring type of combat and if you don't have much experience in sub capitals, flying a super cap is a very bad idea.
Moose Burger	Posted - 2010.09.20 10:09:00 - [289] Quote: You telling us you made an additional 30bil isk, in 4-5 weeks, meaning you play an average of 60 hours a week of missions + you never loose anything to pvp or you never buy anything to upgrade your mission ship? your biggest mistake is that you assume i use all my money to buy my toons. No. Except my first purchase , i bought my toons after having at least 3-10b buffer for losing ships. Currently i have 3 sets of faction/ds fitted golem/tengu, 2 sets of machariels and nightmares (darn mili being a highsec island), almost a hundred stocked bc's and cruisers each, some dozen of munins and vagabonds. So i think i have a decent buffer to spend up to all my current isk. So yeah. Ill splurge cuz it might be the final toon i buy. Its impossible to buy plex here. its almost RM100++ which is insanely expensive.
Aliastra Nakema	Posted - 2010.09.20 11:16:00 - [290] Why can't you support another account? (so you have current 3 chars + room for 3 more). You will need room anyway as you would want another account just for cyne chars if your really buying SC char. Just make trial and upgrade it with isk bought plex from ingame market.

Moose Burger	Posted - 2010.09.20 11:57:00 - [291] Edited by: Moose Burger on 20/09/2010 11:59:20 You need to pay 5 real dollars to open an account. And my debit card isnt properly setup yet. Plus, im okay with one account (for now)
Sarton Wells	Posted - 2010.09.20 12:04:00 - [292] No you don't. You can activate trial with plex.
King Aires Kwame's Executive Protection Detail	Posted - 2010.09.20 12:19:00 - [293] Originally by: Moose Burger Quote: You telling us you made an additional 30bil isk, in 4-5 weeks, meaning you play an average of 60 hours a week of missions + you never loose anything to pvp or you never buy anything to upgrade your mission ship? your biggest mistake is that you assume i use all my money to buy my toons. No. Except my first purchase , i bought my toons after having at least 3-10b buffer for losing ships. Currently i have 3 sets of faction/ds fitted golem/tengu, 2 sets of machariels and nightmares (darn mili being a highsec island), almost a hundred stocked bc's and cruisers each, some dozen of munins and vagabonds. So i think i have a decent buffer to spend up to all my current isk. So yeah. Ill splurge cuz it might be the final toon i buy. Its impossible to buy plex here. its almost RM100++ which is insanely expensive. Dude look, you didn't have no 10b before you started buying accounts because your original account is not that old. You would not have had the skills to run level 4's at any kind of efficiency. When you bought your first toon you were floating around 4mil sp. There is a google cache of your characters and all your character purchases that were linked a couple pages ago. It is impossible for a 6 month old or less character to make 10b in this game unless it was given to you, or you struck it rich in the scam of the century. You are a liar and a troll. The views expressed above are not those of my corp or an expression of where my corp stands.
Moose Burger	Posted - 2010.09.20 12:25:00 - [294] Wrong again. As i always say. With a caldari navy raven, it is very easy to make insane ammounts of isk. FYI. i was in CNR abit over a month i started :) exactly 2/3 days after i got my raven. I was pretty hard core at that time. Cuz it was holidaysssssssssssssssssssss My earning was 5-10 CN shield boost amps every day (think i do 180-200K LP per day). It was peanuts to make 10b.
TheMahdi	Posted - 2010.09.20 13:03:00 - [295] Edited by: TheMahdi on 20/09/2010 13:04:32 Originally by: Psychotic Maniac Edited by: Psychotic Maniac on 18/09/2010 14:42:56 who cares how much you make missioning. you're playing the game wrong as if it's a job. I didn't realise there was a wrong way to play a sandbox game. So what is the right way to play since you are obviously the foremost authority on playing sandbox games from your underground lair?
Moose Burger	Posted - 2010.09.20 13:37:00 - [296] The obvious best way to play the sandbox game is obviously -Everyone becomes a YARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR! -Everyone buys cruisers for a hundred million isk (no supply....), or make their own ships -Everyone mines ore with the one extra slot from their frigate/cruiser while spamming scanner and keeping eye on local -Everyone uses T1 mods and scrap metal, from the drops of rats :o
Manipulator General o.0	Posted - 2010.09.20 21:03:00 - [297] Originally by: Moose Burger Good luck buying PLEX in malaysia What's so hard about it? Aren't they on the market there too? Did CCP remove the market feature for users in Malaysia?
Liang Nuren Parsec Flux War.Pigs.	Posted - 2010.09.20 21:15:00 - [298] Originally by: Moose Burger think i do 180-200K LP per day That ** still boggles my mind. I hope you get out, exercise, and talk to the opposite sex some time. -Liang -- Eve Forum *** Extraordinaire On Twitter Blog
Moose Burger	Posted - 2010.09.20 22:23:00 - [299] Edited by: Moose Burger on 20/09/2010 22:26:53 I do go out for some 5-6km walks sometimes. But i hate 3D girls. Specially one's with no purple hair :( Dont blame me for don nothing, cuz i had to live in a friggin hotel/inn alone for 2 friggin months cuz my uni cant provide accommodation for everyone before graduation Either way tara. gotta go to work. 620am ;<
Liang Nuren Parsec Flux War.Pigs.	Posted - 2010.09.20 22:24:00 - [300] Originally by: Moose Burger I do go out for some 5-6km walks some times. Cool. :) Quote: But i hate 3D girls. Specially one's with no purple hair :( Uh. Well, yeah... give it time I think. -Liang -- Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire On Twitter Blog



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