Since this is your first time on the forum, let me start by saying: welcome!

Anyway, stick around, and you will see plenty of them, all over the place.

actual he is right you are the one who is always complaining about this and that and how CCP has ruined this game beyond repair , if you are really that negative why you still bother , because to be honest people getting tired about your complaing

I never ever see "miners" complain here.

All I see are people like you, complaining "about" miners.

Funny how that works.

btw max output easy done with a mack with 35k ehp or a hulk with 27k ehp

I never ever see "miners" complain here.

All I see are people like you, complaining "about" miners.

Funny how that works.

Well that's nice but haven't we just had about 6 months of miners telling us that 27k EHP is worthless because gankers can always summon up five more gankers?

However, do you realize what is going to happen to your income per hour.

Are you really suggesting that they can actually comprehend the implications of this change?
Don't be naive.

Hey, somebody good at EFT tell me how many of the new Velators with T1 fits we'd need to gank one of the new Hulks.

I sense a new, cheap, and hilarious option in the works.

Is now a good time to admit that I've always loved you?

EDIT: will 10 mill be enough to put T2 guns on those noobships?

Is now a good time to admit that I've always loved you?

EDIT: will 10 mill be enough to put T2 guns on those noobships?

you say that as if it really matters; if mineral prices drop our isk/hour goes down but so does ship prices. the time it takes for a miner to buy some thing is largely unaffected unless the item they wish to procure requires materials that aren't obtained directly from mining.

when i purchased my first hulk trit was 3.4 isk/unit and the hulk was 130m, now trit is 6 isk/unit and a hulk is what, 250m? both prices have almost doubled so the time it takes to replace a ship then and now is almost identical.

Yeah, because you are producing as it were, in "bits of stuff" so inflation raises both the prices you pay and prices you recieve.

Missioners and those who have really high amounts of isk being injected into their wallet benefit from one and lose in the other.

I'd say this thread is about as effective as a Target Painter III.

of course, so really when mineral prices are low; nobody loses. people gaining isk from missioning can buy more stuff per mission so they gain, and as i pointed out miners don't really care one way or another so nobody loses out. i know goons are benefiting from high mineral prices in some way, that's no secret. however generally low prices are better for the majority i'd say.

The T1s are cheaper and you don't pay a price on hulls (well there's the effort of getting a new one, which you will after you lose the one you're in.)

Shouldn't we use Ibises for the blaster damage?

Tornado:

Full skills, 8x 1400mm T II Arty, 4 T II Gyrostabs, 2 Tracking Computers, range-scripted. Powergrid rig needed, 2 TPs, Quake ammo about 15km range (well within optimal).

Just an off the wall question but I have to ask why did you range script your TC's?

T1 guns have the added hilarity of using the ore from the hulk you just ganked to manufacture the guns you use to gank the next one.

Its like a recycling scheme punctuated by explosions.

Nah. Silly miners will still go for max-yield hulks and will still not tank them. They will then still come to the forums and complain about how they miraculously manage to get killed by Destroyers and demand that something be done about this huge injustice.

and soundwave will hear their cries and buff default tanks