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Grez
Empire Assault Corp
Dead Terrorists
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Posted - 2010.08.26 15:10:00 -
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They do not play well with EVE, at all.
Flickering cursor.
Insane FPS drops.
Client freezes.
Confirmed with other players who have updated to them. All other games work perfectly. If you want to play EVE, I suggest sticking with the 10.7's for now.
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Mag's
the united
Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2010.08.26 15:12:00 -
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This thread will be full of flames very soon.
 Originally by: Allestin Villimar
Also, if your bookmarks are too far out, they can and will ban you for it.
Originally by: Torothanax
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Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
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Posted - 2010.08.26 15:12:00 -
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Edited by: Professor Tarantula on 26/08/2010 15:15:00
I'll take my chances and get back to you.
Oh, wait, i replaced that crap ATI card.
My Warmest Regards.
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Grez
Empire Assault Corp
Dead Terrorists
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Posted - 2010.08.26 15:29:00 -
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Edited by: Grez on 26/08/2010 15:33:47
Originally by: Mag's
This thread will be full of flames very soon.
IDD. I was going to mention the fact that at least ATI driver's don't burn the card, but someone would just sprout more ANTI-THIS and ANTI-THAT crap :P.
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Nika Dekaia
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Posted - 2010.08.26 15:33:00 -
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I forget to update my drivers all the time but thanks for the heads up.
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Thoraxe Rig
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.08.26 15:34:00 -
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Son of a -
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Super Whopper
I can Has Cheeseburger
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Posted - 2010.08.26 15:40:00 -
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I'm still on 10.4. I don't like to update my drivers that often, especially if there's no real performance increase in games I play.
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Lothros Andastar
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.08.26 15:50:00 -
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I am using 10.7 on Linux and other than an annoying white box over that new "RCLICK ME" cursor, it works fine.
So I wont be updating to 10.8 then. :D
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BrundleMeth
Caldari
Temporal Mechanics
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Posted - 2010.08.26 16:10:00 -
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Um excuse me, those are features not problems. Some people are so un-thankfull...
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Corozan Aspinall
Party Time Inc.
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Posted - 2010.08.26 16:52:00 -
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Thanks for the warning.  I donwloaded the drivers this morning but didn't have time to install them before work. Glad I didn't now!
ATI .. oh ATI. Lovely hardware but hapless drivers. Best and worst thing I ever did breaking my ten year love affair with Nvidia ..
Definitely not going to fall for the 'its so cheap, its sooo fast' thing next time round. Meh.
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London
Void-Wolf
Propter Falco
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Posted - 2010.08.26 17:32:00 -
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I have no issues running 2 clients with 10.8 on max settings with forced AA/AF filtering on my two-year-old 4870.
Are you sure you didn't mess up your instal? What card are you running?
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CCP Sharkbait
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Posted - 2010.08.26 17:38:00 -
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we're just looking at this a little and trying to reproduce it so we can contact ATi about it.
can you guys/gals/trollers post some information please and what graphics cards you have and if your not using the default setting, what setting you have changed.
thanks
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Flamewave
Crimson Moon Society
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Posted - 2010.08.26 18:22:00 -
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Just updated last night. No issues with 5870 on Win7 64bit. Might be an issue with specific hardware concerning the drivers?
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Netacq
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Posted - 2010.08.26 18:59:00 -
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ATI Radeon HD5830 and VISTA32:
- optimzed for performance; but all effects on
- stable in Jita and Belt
- no changes running 2 Accounts;
- 2 Monitors 1600x1200 + 1280x1024; Windowed; limited to 1 per interval (60Hz)
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Corozan Aspinall
Party Time Inc.
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Posted - 2010.08.26 19:25:00 -
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OS: Win 7 Ultimate 32bit
Card: HD3850 256mb
Issues: None actually. Seems fine.
Custom Settings: No AA, AF (set to let app handle). DISABLED Catalyst AI (this is usually the cause of asteroid artefacts etc).
OP should check to make sure his AI is off and he has cleanly uninstalled/installed the new drivers ie. delete C:/ATI after removing the drivers and run regedit to clear out the ATI key/s in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE > SOFTWARE before installing the new bundle.
Interval One. Some frame drops around gates etc into the 40's but nothing unique to this version of the drivers tbh. No artefacts.
OP probably got trolled - or I did. 
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Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.26 19:38:00 -
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Originally by: Corozan Aspinall
OP should check to make sure his AI is off and he has cleanly uninstalled/installed the new drivers ie. delete C:/ATI after removing the drivers and run regedit to clear out the ATI key/s in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE > SOFTWARE before installing the new bundle.
This.
ATI has the worse driver update software ever and they even recognise it by having an official driver cleaner proggy they recommend you use for every single update.
Don't use it though because it sucks too(it uninstalls everything ati related and still misses some reg entries) so make sure to use a nice third party driver and reg cleaner. I would list them but I went back to nvidia and don't have those issues anymore. 
Originally by: CCP Oveur
My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard.
Originally by: CCP Adida
Moved from missions and complexes. All other game discussions are only aloud in OOP.
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Grez
Empire Assault Corp
Dead Terrorists
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Posted - 2010.08.26 21:25:00 -
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Edited by: Grez on 26/08/2010 21:32:42
Two systems.
Both Win7 x64.
4870 and 5850 have same issue. Another player has the same problem in the Issues & Workaround forum, as do three of my friends (all Win7 x64, varied ATI cards).
Modded my 4870 to use lower 2D clocks when not running a 3D application via ATI Tray Tools. System with the 5870 doesn't have ATT, so it's not ATT causing it. Disabled ATI Overdrive on my 4870, no go there.
The errors only happen when moving the mouse.
Used the ATI update all through 9.11 to 10.8, never had an issue with the update - it's not that.
No other games have issues, just EVE.
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Freyya
Advanced Planetary Exports
Intergalactic Exports Group
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Posted - 2010.08.26 21:57:00 -
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All driver updates should be accompanied by uninstalling the previous ones first. Yes this can be an issue with ATi drivers unfortunatly... Uninstall and clean the driver leftovers by using Driver Sweeper After that a cleaning run with a register cleaner would do very well. This should alleviate any problems that might occur with duplicate/conflicting driver files. Also disable ATi AI to see if this helps...
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NOW COLLECTING ISD AND CCP AUTOGRAPHS
It'll be worth something someday. -Rauth
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Grez
Empire Assault Corp
Dead Terrorists
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Posted - 2010.08.26 22:00:00 -
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Edited by: Grez on 26/08/2010 22:01:52
I know what I'm doing ;).
Updating drivers has worked flawlessly for me. I just did a clean remove via registry, and uninstalling them and forcing Windows to ask me what to install before it invokes it's useless Microsoft drivers. Still issues (and I removed the old files, before anyone asks). So it's not an issue with the driver update, move on.
Also, nothing to do with AI. Standard, Enhanced and Off all do nothing. All of the settings do nothing at all, meaning it's most likely to do with the way the driver interacts with EVE itself, rather than an actual setting being at fault.
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Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.26 22:11:00 -
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Originally by: Grez
Also, nothing to do with AI. Standard, Enhanced and Off all do nothing. All of the settings do nothing at all, meaning it's most likely to do with the way the driver interacts with EVE itself, rather than an actual setting being at fault.
This happened to supcom a while back on an nvidia release. Some players would get freaky lod issues with the strategic zoom and others would get crashes or slow fraps. And since supcom was the only game it effected this way it took till the next driver release to get it fixed. Luckily the rolling back one patch solved it so ranked play continued as normal.
Originally by: CCP Oveur
My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard.
Originally by: Ryhss
There is no paranoia in Eve, everyone is out to get you....
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Corozan Aspinall
Party Time Inc.
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Posted - 2010.08.26 22:14:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Grez
Also, nothing to do with AI. Standard, Enhanced and Off all do nothing. All of the settings do nothing at all, meaning it's most likely to do with the way the driver interacts with EVE itself, rather than an actual setting being at fault.
This happened to supcom a while back on an nvidia release. Some players would get freaky lod issues with the strategic zoom and others would get crashes or slow fraps. And since supcom was the only game it effected this way it took till the next driver release to get it fixed. Luckily the rolling back one patch solved it so ranked play continued as normal.
Meh. You should try an ATI card with Mount & Blade. Oh the fun ..
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Grez
Empire Assault Corp
Dead Terrorists
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Posted - 2010.08.26 22:18:00 -
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Originally by: Corozan Aspinall
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Grez
Also, nothing to do with AI. Standard, Enhanced and Off all do nothing. All of the settings do nothing at all, meaning it's most likely to do with the way the driver interacts with EVE itself, rather than an actual setting being at fault.
This happened to supcom a while back on an nvidia release. Some players would get freaky lod issues with the strategic zoom and others would get crashes or slow fraps. And since supcom was the only game it effected this way it took till the next driver release to get it fixed. Luckily the rolling back one patch solved it so ranked play continued as normal.
Meh. You should try an ATI card with Mount & Blade. Oh the fun ..
Sometimes a company will pick to go with a certain vendor path. Mount & Blade just happens to be NVIDIA. Back in 2004, VALVe went with ATI when producing Half-Life 2, and royally SUCKED for anyone with an NVIDIA card back then. It's just how the industry works, a lot of the time ATI have to work around a lot of issues due to NVIDIA having the cash to splash out and work with developers and lock out other vendors.
You take any game created specifically for ATI cards and it has the same issues for NVIDIA. Yay industry!
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H3llHound
Capital Construction Research
Pioneer Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.26 22:33:00 -
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Guess CCP didnt pay the monthly rental fee to AMD :D
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Super Whopper
I can Has Cheeseburger
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Posted - 2010.08.27 01:21:00 -
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Everyone blaming AMD/ATI for leaving drivers behind has obviously never ran Driver Sweeper after uninstalling any drivers. Had they don't so they'd have known that no driver is fully uninstalled. But I'm assuming that's too much to ask for those who'd rather blame nVidia or AMD rather than their own stupidity for user made mistakes (I have both brands but prefer AMD's drivers, as they're much better).
OP has given no information on which video card he uses and fails pretty hard at trolling. However, I am going to download the 10.8 drivers and install them myself to test.
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Victor Valka
Caldari
Endoxa Corporation
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Posted - 2010.08.27 02:04:00 -
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Originally by: Super Whopper
Edited by: Super Whopper on 27/08/2010 01:30:14
Everyone blaming AMD/ATI for leaving drivers behind has obviously never ran Driver Sweeper after uninstalling any drivers. Had they don't so they'd have known that no driver is fully uninstalled. But I'm assuming that's too much to ask for those who'd rather blame nVidia or AMD rather than their own stupidity for user made mistakes (I have both brands but prefer AMD's drivers, as they're much better).
It's exactly software vendors' responsibility to provide a clean uninstall of their product. Especially for something as important as drivers. The fact that they just CBA and leave their customers to rely on a third party software speaks volumes.
Originally by: Spaztick
You are not outnumbered, you are in a target-rich environment.
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Octavene Ares
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Posted - 2010.08.27 02:17:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Sharkbait
we're just looking at this a little and trying to reproduce it so we can contact ATi about it.
can you guys/gals/trollers post some information please and what graphics cards you have and if your not using the default setting, what setting you have changed.
thanks
I am running 2 x HD4850 (in Crossfire mode) on Vista Extreme 64 bit.
Before updating to the 10.8 drivers I could run 3 clients on the same machine (Windowed mode) all in high quality graphics mode without any lockups or display lag.
Since updating the drivers to 10.8 I get display lag even when running 1 client in low quality mode where the client locks up for around 5 to 10 seconds intermittently. When it locks up it sometimes displays the last frame (static frame) and other times displaying a black screen with Windows reporting the eve client as not responding. It eventually responds again but not very good for pew pew. Think I might have to go back to an older driver.
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Paeniteo
Vengeance Imperium
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.08.27 02:58:00 -
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I had major issues with these drivers outside of EVE too.
Tearing, black screens, stuff minimizing by itself, textures not rendering properly, really bad artifacting under load et cetera.
I thought that maybe the drivers had been corrupted during download, so I re-downloaded them, uninstalled & reinstalled.
It Didn't fix anything. These drivers are proper borked, the guys & girls at ATI are obviously smoking something.
Rolled back to 10.3 and everything was cool.
Even if it's for a PC you don't use EVE on, don't get these drivers.
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John Holt
Caldari
Celtic Dragon's
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Posted - 2010.08.27 04:41:00 -
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HD 2600 Pro working fine with 10.8
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Super Whopper
I can Has Cheeseburger
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Posted - 2010.08.27 05:00:00 -
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Originally by: Victor Valka
Originally by: Super Whopper
Edited by: Super Whopper on 27/08/2010 01:30:14
Everyone blaming AMD/ATI for leaving drivers behind has obviously never ran Driver Sweeper after uninstalling any drivers. Had they don't so they'd have known that no driver is fully uninstalled. But I'm assuming that's too much to ask for those who'd rather blame nVidia or AMD rather than their own stupidity for user made mistakes (I have both brands but prefer AMD's drivers, as they're much better).
It's exactly software vendors' responsibility to provide a clean uninstall of their product. Especially for something as important as drivers. The fact that they just CBA and leave their customers to rely on a third party software speaks volumes.
Then I suggest you never buy anything because you are recommended to use Driver Sweeper for:
- nVidia (Chipset & Video Chip)
- AMD (ATI)
- Creative
- Realtek
- MS Mouse
- (Ageia) Physix (didn't want to put this with nVIdia as it's)
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something somethingdark
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Posted - 2010.08.27 05:01:00 -
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I know whats causing it....
But its a secret.
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