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Hiroshi Nagasaki	Posted - 2010.09.16 08:54:00 - [151] I'm the only one here who still think Eve is a game and you could now spend just ~350m ISK (ingame money) to buy a plex and donate for real humans? I just wait for the ppl who think that this is a great ninja mission from CCP to increase the plex prices
Cyrus Doul Infinite Covenant	Posted - 2010.09.16 09:01:00 - [152] Originally by: Bodrul Originally by: Orange Lagomorph I will be donating 0 PLEX, because Middle Easterners have made it abundantly clear that they dislike Western interference in their affairs. pakistan is in Asia, so get your geography correct Quote from the middle east page on wiki, First sentance "The Middle East (from a European perspective)[1] is a region that encompasses southwestern Asia and Egypt" Yay Asia! It has the middle east. To the people who said we shouldn't have donated for Katrina I am right there with you. If you live in a place where the river next door is higher up then your house you need need to seriously rethink your plan there. I mean keep the welfare cheques or whatever they were already on coming but don't give out dumbass award money. I've given time as a volunteer and or money before for things like lightning strike burns your house down or other fluke accidents, but seriously? lets live under the water table. Also, just use your Onerios or your guardian for logistics. It gets bonuses.
Mr Kidd	Posted - 2010.09.16 09:02:00 - [153] Sorry, I already give to Pakistan through my taxed income in the guise of fighting "terror". Quote from Business Week "...The specific focus of this summit, however, should be ways to create jobs in rural Pakistan, using a portion of the $7.5 billion in aid approved by the U.S. Congress...." Billion, with a B.
Jita Alt666	Posted - 2010.09.16 09:10:00 - [154] Originally by: Bodrul Originally by: Orange Lagomorph I will be donating 0 PLEX, because Middle Easterners have made it abundantly clear that they dislike Western interference in their affairs. pakistan is in Asia, so get your geography correct So is the vaste majority of russia but if you flew into moscow and called them asians you'd be beaten by a large group of very european looking skinheads. I would rather donate my spare isk etc to the folks who have lost everything in the large earthquake in Christchurch New Zealand than Pakistan; 1. We share similiar life views and values. 2. New Zealand has been proactively establishing codes and practises to minimise the impact of natural disaster (help those who help themselves) 3. New Zealand is a good "international citizen". They do not deny the existance of other countries right to exist, they are frequently noted for their support of other countries that are need of help etc. If ccp gave me the option of donating plex there I would at the drop of a hat. I am not going to purchase plex in game for the next month - to simply avoid purchasing plex the funds of which may or not be used to feed taliban fighters.
Orange Lagomorph	Posted - 2010.09.16 09:18:00 - [155] Originally by: Mr Kidd Sorry, I already give to Pakistan through my taxed income in the guise of fighting "terror". Quote from Business Week "...The specific focus of this summit, however, should be ways to create jobs in rural Pakistan, using a portion of the $7.5 billion in aid approved by the U.S. Congress...." Billion, with a B. That's an average of $55 per taxpayer (not per citizen, per taxpayer). Since my wages are above average, I'm sure I'll have donated at least $60 to Pakistan this year. That's four PLEX. Step it up folks, you have to buy four PLEX before you've even caught up with your average American EVE player.
Florio Miniature Giant Space Hamsters	Posted - 2010.09.16 09:21:00 - [156] I'm pretty certain that the tax relief CCP would get for charitable giving just compensates for the tax payable on the plex revenues. Thus they don't make anything from the tax relief. Pakistan is a tricky country. I can't work out whether they're friend or foe. They're on the frontline of the war on terror, but share very little of our culture, priorities and goals.
Jita Alt666	Posted - 2010.09.16 09:25:00 - [157] Originally by: Orange Lagomorph Originally by: Mr Kidd Sorry, I already give to Pakistan through my taxed income in the guise of fighting "terror". Quote from Business Week "...The specific focus of this summit, however, should be ways to create jobs in rural Pakistan, using a portion of the $7.5 billion in aid approved by the U.S. Congress...." Billion, with a B. That's an average of $55 per taxpayer (not per citizen, per taxpayer). Since my wages are above average, I'm sure I'll have donated at least $60 to Pakistan this year. That's four PLEX. Step it up folks, you have to buy four PLEX before you've even caught up with your average American EVE player. This is why the USA is close to becoming permanently bankrupt.
Miss Connolly Public Relations Corp	Posted - 2010.09.16 09:40:00 - [158] I just wanted to say that I'm ashamed to belong to the same species as many of the posters in this thread. I just hope some of you *******s end up in some terrible situation in which you require aid and then think back to the verbal diarrhoea you produced here. ___________________ "It was mentioned by CCP that the data does not seem to support that polished quality sells better than new features." These are the people you are giving your money to.
Mr Kidd	Posted - 2010.09.16 09:55:00 - [159] Edited by: Mr Kidd on 16/09/2010 10:03:13 Originally by: Miss Connolly I just wanted to say that I'm ashamed to belong to the same species as many of the posters in this thread. I just hope some of you *******s end up in some terrible situation in which you require aid and then think back to the verbal diarrhoea you produced here. And by blindly giving money that makes you morally superior how? You haven't even asked the pertinent questions like: 1) How much of my donation will go directly to charity? 2) How will my donation specifically be used? Will it go directly to the people that need help or into the pockets of politicians on the HOPE that it will help? 3) What are my donations going to buy? 4) How can I be sure that my money is going to where it is promised it's going? Will it be used to buy blankets when the people need food? Or food when they need blankets? Or will it be used to purchase out dated, damaged, ineffectual products to increase companies' bottom lines like so many donations that are blindly made to make one's self feel morally superior to those who don't give? Instead you saw a call for donations and like a well trained service animal responded to the dinner bell. Seriously, I have an old water well in my yard where in which most of your donations would do just as much good. If you really care, why don't you donate your time and labor to help people......oh yeah, that's right....very few charities want donated labor....just your money......now ask why. And very few people would actually donate their labor instead of their money....now ask why. Real charity is sacrifice. Anything else and it's more about making one's self feel better about their own inactions. So please, stop displaying your moral snobbery. You're no better than anyone else.
Shwedagon Paya	Posted - 2010.09.16 10:10:00 - [160] Edited by: Shwedagon Paya on 16/09/2010 10:10:50 Check out this more accurate chart: http://cyberdera.com/pakistan/top-25-humanitarian-assistance-donors-to-pakistan-for-flood-relief/
Dr Fighter	Posted - 2010.09.16 10:17:00 - [161] Originally by: Mr Kidd Edited by: Mr Kidd on 16/09/2010 10:03:13 Originally by: Miss Connolly I just wanted to say that I'm ashamed to belong to the same species as many of the posters in this thread. I just hope some of you *******s end up in some terrible situation in which you require aid and then think back to the verbal diarrhoea you produced here. And by blindly giving money that makes you morally superior how? You haven't even asked the pertinent questions like: 1) How much of my donation will go directly to charity? 2) How will my donation specifically be used? Will it go directly to the people that need help or into the pockets of politicians on the HOPE that it will help? 3) What are my donations going to buy? 4) How can I be sure that my money is going to where it is promised it's going? Will it be used to buy blankets when the people need food? Or food when they need blankets? Or will it be used to purchase out dated, damaged, ineffectual products to increase companies' bottom lines like so many donations that are blindly made to make one's self feel morally superior to those who don't give? Instead you saw a call for donations and like a well trained service animal responded to the dinner bell. Seriously, I have an old water well in my yard where in which most of your donations would do just as much good. If you really care, why don't you donate your time and labor to help people......oh yeah, that's right....very few charities want donated labor....just your money......now ask why. And very few people would actually donate their labor instead of their money....now ask why. Real charity is sacrifice. Anything else and it's more about making one's self feel better about their own inactions. So please, stop displaying your moral snobbery. You're no better than anyone else. wow, totaly this. Also Pakistan is more than capable of doing ALOT more about it if they really wanted to, but why bother if sucker countries you dont even like will do it for you.
Muul Udonii Minmatar THORN Syndicate Controlled Chaos	Posted - 2010.09.16 10:33:00 - [162] There's too many people in the world anyway. If my house was flooded I doubt they would even care. So no thanks.
Kerfira Kerfira Corp	Posted - 2010.09.16 10:47:00 - [163] Originally by: Jita Alt666 This is why the USA is close to becoming permanently bankrupt. Pardon me for saying this, but when you owe 14000 billion dollars, and you're borrowing another 2-3000 billion every year, 7.5 billion doesn't really matter ALL that much... Originally by: CCP Wrangler EVE isn't designed to just look like a cold, dark and harsh world, it's designed to be a cold, dark and harsh world.
Destination SkillQueue Are We There Yet	Posted - 2010.09.16 10:49:00 - [164] Not going to donate this time because of secret reasons. I wish them well though. PS. This thread is going places, but it still can't compete with the EVE search version.
Brian Ballsack	Posted - 2010.09.16 11:03:00 - [165] This thread sums up america, I feel sorry for the nice folks that live there.
Sral TBear Shipwreck Island	Posted - 2010.09.16 11:08:00 - [166] I skip this one for personal resons....I will feel better to donate a new eveplayer 350mil :)
Professor Villinghopper	Posted - 2010.09.16 11:26:00 - [167] Why is there a dead Pakistani on my couch?
Amaron Ghant Caldari Tritanium Space Whales Black Thorne Alliance	Posted - 2010.09.16 11:32:00 - [168] The Pakistani government is failing to provide disaster relief in sufficient quantity to ease the suffering of its own people, yet it can still fund Nuclear Research and Weaponry. Nice. Tell you what. For every pound the Pakistani government puts into disaster relief that actually reaches the people who require it, the rest of the world should put in collectively another pound. Garantee me that at least 85% of what I donate is going to go into food and tents instead of "administration and transportation fees" then I'll consider donating.
coolzero Gallente Dutch Federation Player Corp	Posted - 2010.09.16 11:33:00 - [169] Edited by: coolzero on 16/09/2010 11:35:49 Edited by: coolzero on 16/09/2010 11:34:35 Originally by: Shwedagon Paya Edited by: Shwedagon Paya on 16/09/2010 10:10:50 Check out this more accurate chart: http://cyberdera.com/pakistan/top-25-humanitarian-assistance-donors-to-pakistan-for-flood-relief/ wow good to see those oil money scooping countrys donating so much money to their muslim brothers... Linkage Jack of all trades, master of none...
xXThunder StruckXx	Posted - 2010.09.16 11:35:00 - [170] Originally by: Orange Lagomorph Originally by: Mr Kidd Sorry, I already give to Pakistan through my taxed income in the guise of fighting "terror". Quote from Business Week "...The specific focus of this summit, however, should be ways to create jobs in rural Pakistan, using a portion of the $7.5 billion in aid approved by the U.S. Congress...." Billion, with a B. That's an average of $55 per taxpayer (not per citizen, per taxpayer). Since my wages are above average, I'm sure I'll have donated at least $60 to Pakistan this year. That's four PLEX. Step it up folks, you have to buy four PLEX before you've even caught up with your average American EVE player. I feel you're pain Bro. We have more of them here in the UK than are affected by the "disaster" in the country they should be in. I wager some ú1000 of my hard earned annual taxation goes to prop the scrounging bomb making bastards in my own back yard
Jada Maroo	Posted - 2010.09.16 11:41:00 - [171] "How many PLEX will you donate and why not?" I donated to the SPCA instead.
Fritzman Aliastra	Posted - 2010.09.16 11:49:00 - [172] Edited by: Fritzman on 16/09/2010 11:52:07 All isk profit from my next suicide gank will go to this, which usually equals 2-4 plexes. Glad to help out. I'm just hoping the next pilot that I kill is an american one
Lillith Starfire	Posted - 2010.09.16 12:44:00 - [173] Originally by: mechtech Edited by: mechtech on 16/09/2010 08:08:04 Pakistan was a key player during the cold war as part of the Baghdad Pact and CENTO, and was the west's (America's... the cold war was primarily US/USSR after all) primary ally in the region. In the 80's/90's western relations were restricted to Pakistan due to their Nuclear Program. As of 2001, Pakistan has been a key western ally. Pakistan has lost thousands of people to suicide bombings and terrorism, and despite conspiracy theories of Pakistan conspiring with extremists, keep in mind that Pakistan is the 27th largest economy in the world, and in no way would they want they sovereignty marginalized by terrorist organizations of any sort. Also, please keep in mind that 1/5 of Pakistan was covered in water. This affected more people than the 2004 tsunami, 2005 earthquakes, and Haiti disaster combined! It can be argued that a fairly well off country such as Pakistan should provide for itself, but likewise many people helped right the disaster that was the hurricane Katrina in the US (and regardless of the US being a wealthy nation they were grateful). In the end a person in need is a person in need, I don't see how this is different than Haiti. Past the concerns that your donation dollar will be well spent and help a human being who just lost their entire home/city, I don't see what more there is to consider if you are even a 1/2 decent human being. I don't know why you bother, it is clear from even some of the direct responses to your post various people are just using this as an excuse to vent and project their own hate out. Most, if not all, have never even stepped foot there and are talking out of their backsides. And for the record I HAVE been there, numerous times. The poverty is EVERYWHERE. Just because the Government is corrupt doesn't mean the majority of people are. I'm sure more than a few would agree they don't want the world to think of them all being chickenhawks like Bush for example. Or that all Americans are red necked yokels who hump their cousins and burn crosses. Such a sad degenerate thread this has become.

CCP Navigator C C P C C P Alliance	Posted - 2010.09.16 13:11:00 - [174] This thread has now been cleaned and political, religious, trolling and off topic comments have been removed. We are offering players the opportunity to work within their community to raise funds for millions who are suffering and have lost everything. This PLEX for GOOD that we are running is completely optional and no one is obliged to donate. We are never going to come asking you directly to part with your ISK to buy a PLEX or to part with a PLEX that you already own. We will offer you the ability to donate if that is what you would like to do. What we will not tolerate are trolling and inappropriate comments which are hurtful to many and completely unnecessary. Should you feel you need to make a political statement on any country in the world or about religion or race then there are plenty of forums that will allow and encourage that participation. The EVE forums will not tolerate it. Navigator Senior Community Representative CCP Hf, EVE Online

Fritzman Aliastra	Posted - 2010.09.16 13:15:00 - [175] Edited by: Fritzman on 16/09/2010 13:16:13 Why is it "inappropriate" to hope that your next target in game is from a certain country? If I'd say "I hope I can join a corp with canadians in it", would that be inappropriate too? What's the difference?

CCP Navigator C C P C C P Alliance	Posted - 2010.09.16 13:20:00 - [176] Originally by: Fritzman Edited by: Fritzman on 16/09/2010 13:16:13 Why is it "inappropriate" to hope that your next target in game is from a certain country? If I'd say "I hope I can join a corp with canadians in it", would that be inappropriate too? What's the difference? Since I am here I will answer your question. Stating that you hope that someone you kill is from a certain country falls under nation bashing. That never leads to anything good and is simply not constructive. Now please back on topic Navigator Senior Community Representative CCP Hf, EVE Online

coolzero Gallente Dutch Federation Player Corp	Posted - 2010.09.16 13:27:00 - [177] ow well i can understand the mods removing my last post...how true it was.. anyway the last thing i will say in this topic is that CCP souldnt be doing these kind of thing as you be opening pandora's box. i dont see blizzard doing this and im sure for this reson. CCP as comany is free to donate whatever they feel with any profit they make and people who wants to donate would do so on their own.(many of us play mmo's to escape from RL worries and dont wanna deal with this in a game.) the world has te many problems (and im sure more will come) my advice is for next time leave pandoa's box closed... Jack of all trades, master of none...
Fritzman Aliastra	Posted - 2010.09.16 13:31:00 - [178] Edited by: Fritzman on 16/09/2010 13:35:59 Edited by: Fritzman on 16/09/2010 13:33:51 Edited by: Fritzman on 16/09/2010 13:32:06 Originally by: CCP Navigator Originally by: Fritzman Edited by: Fritzman on 16/09/2010 13:16:13 Why is it "inappropriate" to hope that your next target in game is from a certain country? If I'd say "I hope I can join a corp with canadians in it", would that be inappropriate too? What's the difference? Since I am here I will answer your question. Stating that you hope that someone you kill is from a certain country falls under nation bashing. That never leads to anything good and is simply not constructive. Now please back on topic Please elaborate. How is it exactly nation bashing hoping that a pilot is from a certain country? I'm not expressing any sort of an opinion or making a statement about the nation or country itself, am I? I'm simply stating my own personal preference on what kind of targets I prefer in game. Again, how is this "nation bashing"? Based on my experience so far, americans in game usually get the most upset about getting killed, simple as that. It's no fun killing anyone if they don't provide any entertainment in the form of smacktalk and threats.
Cebraio	Posted - 2010.09.16 13:40:00 - [179] Edited by: Cebraio on 16/09/2010 13:42:41 Originally by: coolzero ow well i can understand the mods removing my last post...how true it was.. I'm sure it was removed because it told the one and only truth. Originally by: coolzero i dont see blizzard doing this and im sure for this reson. Right, let's don't do anything that isn't Blizzard approved. Wait, they don't do Internet spaceship MMOs on a single server? Originally by: coolzero CCP as comany is free to donate whatever they feel with any profit they make and people who wants to donate would do so on their own.(many of us play mmo's to escape from RL worries and dont wanna deal with this in a game.) Actually, after seeing the flamewars that arise every time <any third world country with possible ties to terrorists> is mentioned, I am sure the opposite will happen: People will start flaming CCP for spending "their" money for that country instead of improving EVE. With PLEX for GOOD CCP remains neutral, because they just provide a platform for donations, just like many other sites on the Internet. And nobody is forced to use that platform. Still political bull** is spilled all over the place. Originally by:** Fritzman Please elaborate... He is mod. He doesn't need to elaborate his moderation. Get over yourself.
Morphisat Hidden Agenda Deep Space Engineering	Posted - 2010.09.16 14:07:00 - [180] A country that can develop Nuclear Weapons should be able to take care of their flood victims I would think ?

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