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jornab
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.07.31 02:24:00 -
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How do you make isk in lowsec?
I have been running sites, ratting belts, and the occasional pvp....yet i made a crap ton more money in high sec running missions. Now I just don't understand. Either i am doing something wrong... or I just don't understand the secrets. which is it?
p.s. so far all the 100% scan sites, ded complexes and radars, mags have come up with squat isk wise (less then 10 mil each). The only faction loot in a month of running these sites has been some ammo, and crapy items. I have noticed I might get a faction spawn 1:20-25 sites. is this normal too? I have yet to see a belt rat faction spawn.
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forgealt9000
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2012.07.31 02:38:00 -
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what ship are you using to run sites
and what ship did you use to run highsec l4s |

jornab
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.07.31 02:42:00 -
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i run in drone boats mostly isthars, gilas, vexors, myms depends on where im at and what im doing. It is not a speed issue. |

Rath Kelbore
The Six-Pack Syndicate
270
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Posted - 2012.07.31 03:26:00 -
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Now you begin to realise the problen with high sec. Risk vs reward is all f'd up I plan on living forever.......so far, so good. |

Denidil
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
357
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Posted - 2012.07.31 03:36:00 -
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Rath Kelbore wrote:Now you begin to realise the problen with high sec. Risk vs reward is all f'd up
simple solution.. buff lowsec income.
in order of risk (least->most)
highsec, sov nullsec, npc nullsec, lowsec. If you don't see a problem in 0.0 eroding into two big super-coalitions and a few hangers on in areas nobody cares about.. then you don't have brains. |

King Rothgar
Path of the Fallen
242
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Posted - 2012.07.31 03:37:00 -
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Low sec exploration pays better than high sec exploration, the trouble is missions pay substantially better than exploration in general. The Troll is trolling. |

Karl Hobb
Stellar Ore Refinery and Crematorium
410
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Posted - 2012.07.31 03:39:00 -
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King Rothgar wrote:Low sec exploration pays better than high sec exploration, the trouble is missions pay substantially better than exploration in general. This. It really sucks when I can literally grind L3s while bouncing a baby in one arm and make more money than low-sec exploration (an EVE past-time I really love). The additional payoff being a Comet.
It's ******* stupid. Nothing Found |

Suqq Madiq
Amarr Empire
247
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Posted - 2012.07.31 04:43:00 -
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Karl Hobb wrote:King Rothgar wrote:Low sec exploration pays better than high sec exploration, the trouble is missions pay substantially better than exploration in general. This. It really sucks when I can literally grind L3s while bouncing a baby in one arm and make more money than low-sec exploration (an EVE past-time I really love). The additional payoff being a Comet. It's ******* stupid.
You people are doing it entirely wrong. Lowsec exploration is significantly more profitable than highsec missions. The trick is doing it in the right location, at the right time and with the right combination of ships. It certainly requires more dedication than somebody who is "bouncing a baby on one arm" can invest as speed and multiboxing are the key. |

Suddenly Forums ForumKings
Republic University Minmatar Republic
90
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Posted - 2012.07.31 04:44:00 -
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Honest answer? I go to Cloud Ring in something fast/stealthy and rat. Then I go home. |

Ron Maudieu
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.07.31 04:46:00 -
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I'm pretty sure that a 0.1 system agent will give better rewards than a 0.5 system agent as far as missions go. Though, it could be troublesome if you're always getting shot up by station/gate guns \o/ All of the whining on these forums produce enough tears daily to fill an Olympic-size pool.
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ugh zug
24
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Posted - 2012.07.31 04:51:00 -
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do incursions if you can run level 4s. Want me to shut up?-á Send me ISK and i'll stop giving suggestions to CCP that make sense. Remove content from my post, 15 bil Remove my content from a thread I have started 30bil. |

Karl Hobb
Stellar Ore Refinery and Crematorium
415
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Posted - 2012.07.31 04:58:00 -
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Suqq Madiq wrote:You people are doing it entirely wrong. Lowsec exploration is significantly more profitable than highsec missions. The trick is doing it in the right location, at the right time and with the right combination of ships. It certainly requires more dedication than somebody who is "bouncing a baby on one arm" can invest as speed and multiboxing are the key. Your comparison and the reasoning behind it is impeccable. I salute you. Nothing Found |

Super Chair
Project Cerberus Caldari State Capturing
303
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Posted - 2012.07.31 06:39:00 -
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I'd tell you how and where to make isk in lowsec, but then i'd have to kill you because you're in my sites.  |

lanyaie
469
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Posted - 2012.07.31 07:09:00 -
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Anyone who says peeps in their title doesn't deserve a serious response I dont post often, but when I do i'm probably trolling you Currently offering 100% legit hulkageddon security sponsored by the mittani, send 50m to me and 50m to him |

Sugar Kyle
The humbleless Crew Capital Punishment.
72
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Posted - 2012.07.31 09:55:00 -
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I make plenty off of low sec exploring. |

ACE McFACE
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
797
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Posted - 2012.07.31 09:56:00 -
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FW "7 pages of people insulting me - aka trolling" - Lady Hofstedar What s/he (probobly he) meant: "7 pages of people disagreeing with my terrible idea - aka trolling" - Lady Hofstedar |

Lexmana
620
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Posted - 2012.07.31 10:20:00 -
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jornab wrote:How do you make isk in lowsec?
I have been running sites, ratting belts, and the occasional pvp....yet i made a crap ton more money in high sec running missions. Now I just don't understand. Either i am doing something wrong... or I just don't understand the secrets. which is it?
You are comparing belt ratting in lowsec with L4 missioning in highsec. Try run some L4s in lowsec or rat some belts in highsec and you will notice a difference. |

Nuela
Beacon Light Corporation Beacon Light Alliance
91
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Posted - 2012.07.31 11:02:00 -
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I have said this before...
I have tried most everything in Eve. ALL THINGS CONSIDERED, hisec lvl 4's make me the most isk*. However, this toon has spent quite a while skilling to run lvl 4's efficiently so YMMV.
*Null sec sites run with a Cap ship looks like they will break this, but I have yet to try it. |

Taranius De Consolville
Lost Dawn Chaos Corrosive.
112
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Posted - 2012.07.31 11:05:00 -
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Sorry mate
Bottom Line Is
High Sec Is Pure ISk amking
Low Sec is pure **** were pirates live
Null Sec is easy ISK for next to no risk if ur a renter
THIS IS EVE ***** |

Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
560
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Posted - 2012.07.31 11:16:00 -
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I make quite good ISK exploring in losec, thanks -- and no, I don't multi-boot, because that's a lame and weak-ass crutch. It takes a bit of doing, and long "explo-roams" can be a bit grating sometimes, but it can be done "true-solo" just fine, if not optimally.
(Must get at it again, to pay back my newly-kitted out Thalidomide-baby fish Arazu soon-ish, now that I think of it...)
Why am I dreaming of some strange woman who keeps telling me, "You fail at life because you are cloaked?" |

Freezehunter
254
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Posted - 2012.07.31 11:37:00 -
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Suqq Madiq wrote:Karl Hobb wrote:King Rothgar wrote:Low sec exploration pays better than high sec exploration, the trouble is missions pay substantially better than exploration in general. This. It really sucks when I can literally grind L3s while bouncing a baby in one arm and make more money than low-sec exploration (an EVE past-time I really love). The additional payoff being a Comet. It's ******* stupid. You people are doing it entirely wrong. Lowsec exploration is significantly more profitable than highsec missions. The trick is doing it in the right location, at the right time and with the right combination of ships. It certainly requires more dedication than somebody who is "bouncing a baby on one arm" can invest as speed and multiboxing are the key.
Yes, because everyone wants to have 50 alts and play a MMO basically solo.
No ******* thanks.
It's sad that Eve is the only MMO I play where having alts gives you super unfair advantages over everyone else.
What the **** is the point of playing a MMO in the first place if you're basically going to solo your way through it until you get bored?
Might as well play X3 Terran Conflict then, or Freelancer or other games like those.
MMOs are for team play, not alt play. Inappropriate signature, CCP Phantom. |

Suqq Madiq
Amarr Empire
249
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Posted - 2012.07.31 13:17:00 -
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Freezehunter wrote:Suqq Madiq wrote:Karl Hobb wrote:King Rothgar wrote:Low sec exploration pays better than high sec exploration, the trouble is missions pay substantially better than exploration in general. This. It really sucks when I can literally grind L3s while bouncing a baby in one arm and make more money than low-sec exploration (an EVE past-time I really love). The additional payoff being a Comet. It's ******* stupid. You people are doing it entirely wrong. Lowsec exploration is significantly more profitable than highsec missions. The trick is doing it in the right location, at the right time and with the right combination of ships. It certainly requires more dedication than somebody who is "bouncing a baby on one arm" can invest as speed and multiboxing are the key. Yes, because everyone wants to have 50 alts and play a MMO basically solo. No ******* thanks. It's sad that Eve is the only MMO I play where having alts gives you super unfair advantages over everyone else. What the **** is the point of playing a MMO in the first place if you're basically going to solo your way through it until you get bored? Might as well play X3 Terran Conflict then, or Freelancer or other games like those. MMOs are for team play, not alt play.
You sound really mad, and I'm not sure why. There's a difference between running 2 accounts and the 50 alts that your wild imagination leads you to claim. You're crying about your unfair disadvantage because you don't have the wherewithal and basic intelligence to multi-task 2 combat characters or even 1 combat and 1 scout. It's really not that difficult and you really are at a disadvantage if you're not willing to put in the effort. But keep crying for CCP to hand you the keys to lowsec so you can farm it all day like you do your Level 4 missions. Or maybe you should just stay in highsec, you seem much more suited for that life.
edit: Besides, alts do a lot of things, but saying they give an "unfair advantage" when the best of us are using them and you also have every opportunity to use them as well is just plain dumb. |

Bootleg Jack
Potters Field
214
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Posted - 2012.07.31 14:33:00 -
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jornab wrote:How do you make isk in lowsec?
I have been running sites, ratting belts, and the occasional pvp....yet i made a crap ton more money in high sec running missions. Now I just don't understand. Either i am doing something wrong... or I just don't understand the secrets. which is it?
p.s. so far all the 100% scan sites, ded complexes and radars, mags have come up with squat isk wise (less then 10 mil each). The only faction loot in a month of running these sites has been some ammo, and crapy items. I have noticed I might get a faction spawn 1:20-25 sites. is this normal too? I have yet to see a belt rat faction spawn.
If you are going to do that, do whs instead, low blows. I'm an American, English is my second language... |

Freezehunter
254
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Posted - 2012.07.31 14:55:00 -
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Suqq Madiq wrote:Freezehunter wrote:Suqq Madiq wrote:Karl Hobb wrote:King Rothgar wrote:Low sec exploration pays better than high sec exploration, the trouble is missions pay substantially better than exploration in general. This. It really sucks when I can literally grind L3s while bouncing a baby in one arm and make more money than low-sec exploration (an EVE past-time I really love). The additional payoff being a Comet. It's ******* stupid. You people are doing it entirely wrong. Lowsec exploration is significantly more profitable than highsec missions. The trick is doing it in the right location, at the right time and with the right combination of ships. It certainly requires more dedication than somebody who is "bouncing a baby on one arm" can invest as speed and multiboxing are the key. Yes, because everyone wants to have 50 alts and play a MMO basically solo. No ******* thanks. It's sad that Eve is the only MMO I play where having alts gives you super unfair advantages over everyone else. What the **** is the point of playing a MMO in the first place if you're basically going to solo your way through it until you get bored? Might as well play X3 Terran Conflict then, or Freelancer or other games like those. MMOs are for team play, not alt play. You sound really mad, and I'm not sure why. There's a difference between running 2 accounts and the 50 alts that your wild imagination leads you to claim. You're crying about your unfair disadvantage because you don't have the wherewithal and basic intelligence to multi-task 2 combat characters or even 1 combat and 1 scout. It's really not that difficult and you really are at a disadvantage if you're not willing to put in the effort. But keep crying for CCP to hand you the keys to lowsec so you can farm it all day like you do your Level 4 missions. Or maybe you should just stay in highsec, you seem much more suited for that life. edit: Besides, alts do a lot of things, but saying they give an "unfair advantage" when the best of us are using them and you also have every opportunity to use them as well is just plain dumb.
I have a life to attend to outside Eve and I don't have time to bother with a million alts at a time like some other unemployed parasites around here.
I have work to go to, bills to pay, a fiance to keep satisfied, etc.
When you finally get out of your mom's basement you will see how life works for those of us that are not socially supported parasites that play pretend internet spaceships 24/7.
Also, multiboxing and running many alts at a time doesn't require any kind of intelligence, just a lot of free time, having a job and making money in reality and finishing college requires intelligence, but you wouldn't know anything about that would you? Inappropriate signature, CCP Phantom. |

Suqq Madiq
Amarr Empire
253
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Posted - 2012.07.31 15:23:00 -
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Freezehunter wrote:I have a life to attend to outside Eve and I don't have time to bother with a million alts at a time like some other unemployed parasites around here.
I have work to go to, bills to pay, a fiance to keep satisfied, etc.
When you finally get out of your mom's basement you will see how life works for those of us that are not socially supported parasites that play pretend internet spaceships 24/7.
Also, multiboxing and running many alts at a time doesn't require any kind of intelligence, just a lot of free time, having a job and making money in reality and finishing college requires intelligence, but you wouldn't know anything about that would you?
Nobody cares that you have an awfuljob, bills to pay and your fiance is hard to satisfy. Cry more. None of those factors determines your ability, or lack thereof, to micromanage an additional character in addition to your main. Many of us are able handle our business outside the game then multi-box with ease when we're in the game. You're a joke for thinking this is difficult, time-consuming or impossible for somebody with such a burdensome life as you claim to have. |

Freezehunter
254
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Posted - 2012.07.31 15:36:00 -
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Suqq Madiq wrote:Freezehunter wrote:I have a life to attend to outside Eve and I don't have time to bother with a million alts at a time like some other unemployed parasites around here.
I have work to go to, bills to pay, a fiance to keep satisfied, etc.
When you finally get out of your mom's basement you will see how life works for those of us that are not socially supported parasites that play pretend internet spaceships 24/7.
Also, multiboxing and running many alts at a time doesn't require any kind of intelligence, just a lot of free time, having a job and making money in reality and finishing college requires intelligence, but you wouldn't know anything about that would you? Nobody cares that you have an awfuljob, bills to pay and your fiance is hard to satisfy. Cry more. None of those factors determines your ability, or lack thereof, to micromanage an additional character in addition to your main. Many of us are able handle our business outside the game then multi-box with ease when we're in the game. You're a joke for thinking this is difficult, time-consuming or impossible for somebody with such a burdensome life as you claim to have.
I make 63000 NOK a month, try harder plebe.
I'd rather make real money than pretend ISK, and that takes time and effort in reality, you know, that world outside your mother's house that you never see. Inappropriate signature, CCP Phantom. |

Generals4
993
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Posted - 2012.07.31 15:40:00 -
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Actually i was able to make lots of isks with lowsec explo. 5/10 - 6/10 DED sites are pretty lucrative. The issue is that it is rlly random and nowadays too many people are doing explo which severely crippled my explo income. Hence why i switched back to FW LP as a source of income.
Quote:Now you begin to realise the problen with high sec. Risk vs reward is all f'd up
No sir. The problem is not High Sec, it's lowsec. -Death is nothing, but to live defeated and inglorious is to die daily. |

El Cid Campeador
Exploding Squirrels
35
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Posted - 2012.07.31 15:48:00 -
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Freezehunter wrote:Suqq Madiq wrote:Freezehunter wrote:I have a life to attend to outside Eve and I don't have time to bother with a million alts at a time like some other unemployed parasites around here.
I have work to go to, bills to pay, a fiance to keep satisfied, etc.
When you finally get out of your mom's basement you will see how life works for those of us that are not socially supported parasites that play pretend internet spaceships 24/7.
Also, multiboxing and running many alts at a time doesn't require any kind of intelligence, just a lot of free time, having a job and making money in reality and finishing college requires intelligence, but you wouldn't know anything about that would you? Nobody cares that you have an awfuljob, bills to pay and your fiance is hard to satisfy. Cry more. None of those factors determines your ability, or lack thereof, to micromanage an additional character in addition to your main. Many of us are able handle our business outside the game then multi-box with ease when we're in the game. You're a joke for thinking this is difficult, time-consuming or impossible for somebody with such a burdensome life as you claim to have. I make 63000 NOK a month, try harder plebe. I'd rather make real money than pretend ISK, and that takes time and effort in reality, you know, that world outside your mother's house that you never see.
So im confused, you believe you are the only person who plays this game AND has a life? I think the main issue is you have a hard time multi tasking. Most eve players can do all the things you do (which they do) and play eve with alts. Its not hard, or time consuming. |

Generals4
993
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Posted - 2012.07.31 15:53:00 -
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Freezehunter wrote:Suqq Madiq wrote:Freezehunter wrote:I have a life to attend to outside Eve and I don't have time to bother with a million alts at a time like some other unemployed parasites around here.
I have work to go to, bills to pay, a fiance to keep satisfied, etc.
When you finally get out of your mom's basement you will see how life works for those of us that are not socially supported parasites that play pretend internet spaceships 24/7.
Also, multiboxing and running many alts at a time doesn't require any kind of intelligence, just a lot of free time, having a job and making money in reality and finishing college requires intelligence, but you wouldn't know anything about that would you? Nobody cares that you have an awfuljob, bills to pay and your fiance is hard to satisfy. Cry more. None of those factors determines your ability, or lack thereof, to micromanage an additional character in addition to your main. Many of us are able handle our business outside the game then multi-box with ease when we're in the game. You're a joke for thinking this is difficult, time-consuming or impossible for somebody with such a burdensome life as you claim to have. I make 63000 NOK a month, try harder plebe. I'd rather make real money than pretend ISK, and that takes time and effort in reality, you know, that world outside your mother's house that you never see.
Ever heard of college students? I could technically go full nerd because of the big amount of free time and still succeed at getting a degree. There other groups of people than unemployed who have lots of free time. -Death is nothing, but to live defeated and inglorious is to die daily. |

Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
9036
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Posted - 2012.07.31 15:54:00 -
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Freezehunter wrote:I make 63000 NOK a month, try harder plebe.
I'd rather make real money than pretend ISK, and that takes time and effort in reality, you know, that world outside your mother's house that you never see. It's no surprise you're angry. Could you please tell me what it's like to be poor, I've often wondered.
CCP Zulu..... Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |
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