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Jeremy Samson
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Posted - 2010.09.30 14:55:00 -
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Take all the time you need to fix the semi-tested update. I am enjoying playing my lag free T-34-85 with a new 100mm main gun. Other guys patched their game with no OMG "it does not work" drama.
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ishi ryu
Minmatar Atlantic Solutions
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Posted - 2010.09.30 14:57:00 -
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Originally by: Misanthra Any chance for future patches you all could do this crap some other TZ. Every damn patch Asia, Austalia, New Zealnad get screwed when you have unforeseen problems. Has a tendency to get old. US doesn't get to pew pew while eating breakfast, not too bad. People in my part of the world...lost a night of game play.....again.
All about taking it for the team...but damn, part of that means the team takes theirs at some point as well.
lucky it is only a minor patch then
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Bibosikus
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Posted - 2010.09.30 14:57:00 -
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Originally by: Ms Mina I for one welcome this extended downtime. Gives me a chance to get some shut-eye, seeing as I have not slept since the last patch.
LOL
I for one am not complaining; over the past few months average downtime has been less than half an hour. So in fact WE all owe CCP isk and SP
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Rock Tsingtoa
Gallente Paradox Federation United Front Alliance
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Posted - 2010.09.30 14:57:00 -
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Originally by: Misanthra Any chance for future patches you all could do this crap some other TZ. Every damn patch Asia, Austalia, New Zealnad get screwed when you have unforeseen problems. Has a tendency to get old. US doesn't get to pew pew while eating breakfast, not too bad. People in my part of the world...lost a night of game play.....again.
All about taking it for the team...but damn, part of that means the team takes theirs at some point as well.
The reason behind this is that CCP do the Update during there normal business hours
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Murauke
EvE Rookie Collective EvE Rookie Collective Alliance
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Posted - 2010.09.30 14:58:00 -
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Originally by: Atticus Fynch
Originally by: Misanthra Any chance for future patches you all could do this crap some other TZ. Every damn patch Asia, Austalia, New Zealnad get screwed when you have unforeseen problems. Has a tendency to get old. US doesn't get to pew pew while eating breakfast, not too bad. People in my part of the world...lost a night of game play.....again.
All about taking it for the team...but damn, part of that means the team takes theirs at some point as well.
Oh sure...inconvenience the rest of the globe.
...and I do so pew-pew for breakfast. (we are talking about morning bowel movements...right?)
Rubs hands and looks forward to getting home, turning the computer on and playing eve ALL night......SUCKERS!!
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Glyken Touchon
Gallente Independent Alchemists
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Posted - 2010.09.30 14:59:00 -
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As sisi and TQ are not duplicate hardware, some anomalies will not show up on sisi testing.
Without an exact mirrored hardware setup, they'll never be able to stop all these happening (that would be expensive though).
I do however wonder that so many of these overrun (if you can't test fully, you make allowances). Set a minimum patch DT for 3 hours- then if it's up early it's a bonus...
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Razor Vision
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Posted - 2010.09.30 14:59:00 -
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Edited by: Razor Vision on 30/09/2010 15:00:36 You know, I think it's funny how lots of Americans suddenly jumped out of the bushes and started saying that we were so greedy for suggesting they change the DT schedule.
Why don't you try having your Eve time interrupted for an hour or more every single day, for a few months, then see if we are greedy for suggesting a more reasonable DT schedule. But no, you wouldn't understand. You're spoiled to death already and don't see outside the box, and think anything outside the box is simply preposterous. Pathetic.
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MAX MEXX
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Posted - 2010.09.30 15:01:00 -
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ccp u suck :P
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Indimiel
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Posted - 2010.09.30 15:02:00 -
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All this struggle to support some people's absurd habit of thinking they can use their Mac like a real computer.
Is there any truth to the rumour that during implementation Russian took over the rest of Eve and installed itself as the primary language, while the code, undistracted by players trying to confuse it with lag, consulted the influence map? If so any chance you can just bring up Russian Eve while you figure out how to give it back to the English-speaking world?
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slipittome
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Posted - 2010.09.30 15:02:00 -
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Seeing as my thread got locked so fast i thought i would post it again here for giggles :) Whilst i now have time to read the forums whilst waiting for the new patch i decided to come in here and count how many new threads there would be concerning the expected extended unexpectedly extended DT:P Its not new that these thing's dont go according to plan so plan for the expected extended unexpectedly extended DT. If all extended DT's went as expected you would be surpised by the expected extended unexpectedly extended DT.So why do ppl complain about them ? I have managed to have a bath, clean the house, feed the kids i forgot i had . The dog growled and trapped me in the bedroom because it had forgoten who i was. ( I tried to web and scram him but he must have been stabbed as he just wouldnt stay :P The wife asked who i was so i aslo had a shave then she got some photo's out and seems to remember me being at our wedding, I even had a venture outside to remind myself what my door number was and was surprised to notice that the pavement had been repaved since the last time i went out. There is a new Tescos express opened not 50 yards from my house which im sure wasnt on my overview the last time we had a expected extended unexpectedly extended DT. And the looks i got when i asked how much isk a packet of ciggies were :P Seems they dont sell Medium Barrage either :P Keep up the good work CCP and i cant wait for all the RL changes i will find next time we have a patch day :)
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Mandy Bonebright
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Posted - 2010.09.30 15:02:00 -
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Will there be more free SP given for every overrun? Pay to play not pay to wait, oh wait I watch the market so I guess I already pay to wait...
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Atticus Fynch
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2010.09.30 15:03:00 -
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Originally by: MAX MEXX ccp u suck :P
no they dont.
like someone stated before, we probably owe them time from all the <1hr downtimes they have given us.
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Galphram NefreX
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Posted - 2010.09.30 15:04:00 -
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Originally by: Mandy Bonebright Will there be more free SP given for every overrun? Pay to play not pay to wait, oh wait I watch the market so I guess I already pay to wait...
Ah ha, but you pay to wait and watch the market, which is something you cannot do now ;)
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CEO 01
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Posted - 2010.09.30 15:04:00 -
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Time zone difference give you easterners the **** end of the stick. Complain if you want, but there's no solution to it. CCP works during normal business hours. Unfortunately for you, their normal hours happen to be after your normal hours. Should they start working from 8pm to midnight their time so that you can play during your night and the US peeps get "a taste of your medicine?" It is an unreasonable request. If you want DT to be during your business hours, then play a game based out of a region with the same normal business hours as you.
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Prisma Prime
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Posted - 2010.09.30 15:05:00 -
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to all those people whining... let me fix your problem: End Subscription => make your own game?
as for the pure inconvience.. **** always happens at patch days, Murphy? you know him?
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Cifese
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Posted - 2010.09.30 15:07:00 -
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Scheduling downtime around the hours your employees work really sucks. Can you imagine the staff turnover when the team is told - gee guys, you have to get up at 8:00pm for the next 3 months, and work a graveyard shift, so our customers will stop whining, then in 3 months get up at 3:00 am and work the early shift, then in 3 months a regular day shift, then in 3 months a swing shift. You schedule daily activity in the middle of the night, then change it to the middle of the day, then change it to the early morning, and do this with YOUR LIFE for a year and talk about the timing of downtime.
Of course, if CCP moved to the US, and DT happened at noon-EST (that's about 4/5 pm GMT) you would all complain more because you can't play just as you get off work. So gee, unless they plan on relocating the whole company (yeah right) just suck it up or go play WOW or WOT.
And downtimes have become shorter over the years, btw. Multi-hour daily downtimes were the norm back then, so HTFU
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Jeddeita
Lead Farmers
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Posted - 2010.09.30 15:08:00 -
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Edited by: Jeddeita on 30/09/2010 15:10:05
Originally by: Glyken Touchon As sisi and TQ are not duplicate hardware, some anomalies will not show up on sisi testing.
Without an exact mirrored hardware setup, they'll never be able to stop all these happening (that would be expensive though).
^This. I can't help but cringe at the number of armchair expert's that pop up when these things happen. If you think you'd do a better job of patching a game & cluster this large go give it a try. It is not easy and not *everything* can be tested - more so when your talking about years and years of development work that has gone on - changing things on SiSi can have a totally different impact on TQ due to the sheer difference in numbers of people active on the cluster at any one time.
Instead of whining about it why don't you contribute something to the testing and get on SiSi when there's mass tests and participate - who knows, with the extra people they might find blocking bugs like these.
They do a good job with uptime most of the time, sure it's an inconvenience but damn, it's a game - it's not the end of the world if it's down for longer than you'd like/expected.
If CCP decided to turn around and say "Were having a patch day - downtime starts at 0900 UTC and finishes as 2100 UTC" to cover the chance of something going wrong then either of these would happen; a) People would yell, kick and scream because it's a 12 hour planned window of downtime (much like they do when it overruns) b) Server's would be up early, would then expect the future patches to be up early and then when it's not would yell, kick and scream because they think they are being treated badly
b happens already with the daily downtime - just look what happens from time to time when it overruns by 5 minutes.
(Edit: I'm aware that there's likely to be people that do take part on SiSi so that section isn't at you before you point that out :P) ---------- EVEStuff.net - High Quality Corp & Alliance Web Hosting |
Mal Lokrano
Gallente The Executives IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.09.30 15:09:00 -
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I will simply add 6 hours to any CCP estimate. I figure I will be closer to the actual time that way. _____ When going to a party with wine, women, and song. Always ascertain the vintage of the first two.
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Cipher Jones
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.09.30 15:11:00 -
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Originally by: Razor Vision Edited by: Razor Vision on 30/09/2010 15:00:36 You know, I think it's funny how lots of Americans suddenly jumped out of the bushes and started saying that we were so greedy for suggesting they change the DT schedule.
Why don't you try having your Eve time interrupted for an hour or more every single day, for a few months, then see if we are greedy for suggesting a more reasonable DT schedule. But no, you wouldn't understand. You're spoiled to death already and don't see outside the box, and think anything outside the box is simply preposterous. Pathetic.
Why don't you try being a racist **** on some other forums? When you say "fanboi" try to picture a fat man doing burlesque with 2 big ass fans that say CCP on one and HTFU on the other. Because that dude is me. |
Karia Sur
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Posted - 2010.09.30 15:11:00 -
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Originally by: Jeddeita Instead of whining about it why don't you contribute something
I contribute to their wages, sadly i dont seem to be getting my moneys worth out of the quality control or customer service depts.
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TriadSte
Gallente Adeptus Arbites
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Posted - 2010.09.30 15:11:00 -
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Few things spring to mind :
CCP are NEVER on time
CCP ALWAYS give wrong info when TQ will be online.
CCP ALWAYS extend downtimes
CCP never give actual apologies to us its just a standard copy paste POS [ Not player owned structure ;-) ]
Can you see why people moan?
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TriadSte
Gallente Adeptus Arbites
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Posted - 2010.09.30 15:14:00 -
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Originally by: Cipher Jones
Originally by: Razor Vision Edited by: Razor Vision on 30/09/2010 15:00:36 You know, I think it's funny how lots of Americans suddenly jumped out of the bushes and started saying that we were so greedy for suggesting they change the DT schedule.
Why don't you try having your Eve time interrupted for an hour or more every single day, for a few months, then see if we are greedy for suggesting a more reasonable DT schedule. But no, you wouldn't understand. You're spoiled to death already and don't see outside the box, and think anything outside the box is simply preposterous. Pathetic.
Why don't you try being a racist **** on some other forums?
Hit a nerve did he?
You americans have it EASY AS PIE with Downtimes, your lucky you really really are.
DT is like 6am for you east coast and 3am west coast so stfu and understand where we come from.
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Cyerus
Galactic Dominion Eternal Strife
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Posted - 2010.09.30 15:14:00 -
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Not here to flame, just to ask a question.
Is the patch itself already available for download? Would rather manually download it now, instead of having to wait on slow download once Tranq. is online again.
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Jonii
Woopatang Primary.
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Posted - 2010.09.30 15:14:00 -
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Get over it ______________
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Constipated Connie
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Posted - 2010.09.30 15:15:00 -
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Wow! Someone needs to call a whaambulance for all these whiners. We lose a couple hours gameplay, seriously, not the end of the world. A couple mil isk, a few thousand sp - but just imagine what the fleets of macrominers are losing! It could upset their whole economy of their local 3rd-world communities ;)
CCP, you have a fine game and that is why there are soo many complainers to start - consider it a form of flattery. It would be far worse to have no one give a crap when it comes back up. At least some now have an excuse to pry themselves out of their chairs and take a shower this month.We have all reaped the rewards of your continuous improvement in the game over the years and if your going to improve PI - take ALL the time you need! -CC
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Slack Scientist
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Posted - 2010.09.30 15:15:00 -
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Originally by: TriadSte Few things spring to mind :
CCP are NEVER on time
CCP ALWAYS give wrong info when TQ will be online.
CCP ALWAYS extend downtimes
CCP never give actual apologies to us its just a standard copy paste POS [ Not player owned structure ;-) ]
Can you see why people moan?
well 2 BIG patches have been out before the estimated time
and other stuff
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Leonard Delmordaine
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Posted - 2010.09.30 15:16:00 -
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Originally by: Slack Scientist
Originally by: TriadSte Few things spring to mind :
CCP are NEVER on time
CCP ALWAYS give wrong info when TQ will be online.
CCP ALWAYS extend downtimes
CCP never give actual apologies to us its just a standard copy paste POS [ Not player owned structure ;-) ]
Can you see why people moan?
well 2 BIG patches have been out before the estimated time
and other stuff
Poor baby are you going to cry since you live in a different timezone! please do.
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Tesla Grass
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.09.30 15:16:00 -
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Edited by: Tesla Grass on 30/09/2010 15:17:31
Originally by: Misanthra Any chance for future patches you all could do this crap some other TZ. Every damn patch Asia, Austalia, New Zealnad get screwed when you have unforeseen problems. Has a tendency to get old. US doesn't get to pew pew while eating breakfast, not too bad. People in my part of the world...lost a night of game play.....again.
All about taking it for the team...but damn, part of that means the team takes theirs at some point as well.
I'm in New Zealand, and I am happy for the most part to play other games during my peak gaming time because of EVE DT for the most part, but it would be nice if every now and again a patch could be chucked into another TZ window, sick of playing CS:S and trackmania for 4 hours.
I bet they dont patch China at the same time, yawn
(Eve is awesome btw :P)
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Skeito
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Posted - 2010.09.30 15:17:00 -
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Originally by: Constipated Connie Wow! Someone needs to call a whaambulance for all these whiners. We lose a couple hours gameplay, seriously, not the end of the world. A couple mil isk, a few thousand sp - but just imagine what the fleets of macrominers are losing! It could upset their whole economy of their local 3rd-world communities ;)
CCP, you have a fine game and that is why there are soo many complainers to start - consider it a form of flattery. It would be far worse to have no one give a crap when it comes back up. At least some now have an excuse to pry themselves out of their chairs and take a shower this month.We have all reaped the rewards of your continuous improvement in the game over the years and if your going to improve PI - take ALL the time you need!-CC
yeehawwwwwwww lets improve farmville in a pvp game.
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Raid'En
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Posted - 2010.09.30 15:18:00 -
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if there's a new report can we have free SP ? :P ---------------- ** Wormhole Trading ** |
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