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Mechanix	Posted - 2005.01.04 22:29:00 - [151]
Necronomicon	Posted - 2005.01.04 23:06:00 - [152] Edited by: Necronomicon on 04/01/2005 23:07:30 Well, the little scrotes once again frequented the Ice Belts of Jita tonight, suffice to say, no barges were lost during our watch, but one of our followers (poor demonikan) lost her half equipped Heron during a suicide attack by the griefers. This has set Hidden Agenda back by literally some isk as we sponsored her inclusion in the patrol, I have personally reimbursed her the required amount to retrieve... 1 Agent given heron 2 Agent given ECMs 1 Agent given 1Mn AB I am sure she will be happy enough with this. Starsi dont make Eve Pilots, but if they did, i wouldnt be one of them.
Liu Kaskakka	Posted - 2005.01.04 23:18:00 - [153] Originally by: LottaHurt Sorry Cupcake. Just got out of chat with staff on this one. Not an exploit, no ban for doing it. Us for teh win!!!! Originally by: Ryctor P.S. Cupcake ~ Screens can be edited Excuse me Cupcake, you should not use same wording in your posts if you want to remain anonymous .. (Even if screens can be edited ^^)
Stregone	Posted - 2005.01.04 23:45:00 - [154] Fix this CCP, and quickly. I'm not investing any time or money into a game where this is possible.
Zanthiuse	Posted - 2005.01.04 23:48:00 - [155] Originally by: Liu Kaskakka Originally by: LottaHurt Sorry Cupcake. Just got out of chat with staff on this one. Not an exploit, no ban for doing it. Us for teh win!!!! Originally by: Ryctor P.S. Cupcake ~ Screens can be edited Excuse me Cupcake, you should not use same wording in your posts if you want to remain anonymous .. (Even if screens can be edited ^^) owned. ____________________________ Waiting to cut out the deadwood. Waiting to clean up the city. Waiting to follow the worms.
Tuwile Naldai	Posted - 2005.01.04 23:53:00 - [156] ZZZZzzzZZZzZZZzzz
Kendar Zek	Posted - 2005.01.04 23:56:00 - [157] How many of you people condemning him claim to be pirates yourselves? Frankly, his attitude is the same I see from gate camping pirates. You're all people who get your enjoyment of the game from diminishing someone else's. Those of you living in glass houses shouldn't be throwing stones. Nearly every pirate in EVE is just as bad as this fellow. He's simply taking it as far as he possibly can, knowing that CCP doesn't mind players harassing other players.
Helplessandlost	Posted - 2005.01.05 00:05:00 - [158] Edited by: Helplessandlost on 05/01/2005 00:08:21 Originally by: Discorporation Originally by: meoff Having flown one i can tell you they are not that nimble and how can friends help out unless they are shot at first? If you get shot, then they can help Where is this written where a gang member can shoot a non at war attacker on another gang member? "No-one in this gang is currently in a corporation that is at war. However, be aware that if a fellow gang member's corporation does go to war with other corporations you become vulnerable to attack by members of those corporations. You do not have the right to attack those parties unless they attack you first." Check us out
Avon	Posted - 2005.01.05 00:08:00 - [159] Originally by: Helplessandlost Originally by: Discorporation Originally by: meoff Having flown one i can tell you they are not that nimble and how can friends help out unless they are shot at first? If you get shot, then they can help Where is this written where a gang member can shoot a non at war attacker on another gang member? The person who shoots first will be criminally flagged - open season. ______________________________________________ Never argue with idiots. They will just drag it down to their level, and then beat you through experience.
Xavier Arron	Posted - 2005.01.05 00:09:00 - [160] Originally by: Vex Seraphim Mining in a barge in .9+ system is pretty damn lame, but alt-ganking in such systems is way over lame. Ban. While it is lame, it is within the rules. If killing people in 1.0-0.5 space is a ban-able offence then CCP should just deactivated all guns in high sec space and be done with it. People use alts for all sorts of reasons to exploit the game and avoid risk, this is just more in your face. This is a problem with the game mechanics regarding alts, Concord and the whole way security status and new player corps work. The system should be sorted, banning people for doing something thats within the current framework of the game is not the solution. Market scamming is just as low as this imho, along with corp and ore theft, which all have zero risk with disposable alts.
Zanthiuse	Posted - 2005.01.05 00:11:00 - [161] Originally by: Kendar Zek How many of you people condemning him claim to be pirates yourselves? Frankly, his attitude is the same I see from gate camping pirates. You're all people who get your enjoyment of the game from diminishing someone else's. Those of you living in glass houses shouldn't be throwing stones. Nearly every pirate in EVE is just as bad as this fellow. He's simply taking it as far as he possibly can, knowing that CCP doesn't mind players harassing other players. no? ____________________________ Waiting to cut out the deadwood. Waiting to clean up the city. Waiting to follow the worms.
Ryctor	Posted - 2005.01.05 00:33:00 - [162] Originally by: Liu Kaskakka Originally by: LottaHurt Sorry Cupcake. Just got out of chat with staff on this one. Not an exploit, no ban for doing it. Us for teh win!!!! Originally by: Ryctor P.S. Cupcake ~ Screens can be edited Excuse me Cupcake, you should not use same wording in your posts if you want to remain anonymous .. (Even if screens can be edited ^^) So because he uses the same demeaning term I use for an asshat, we must be the same person?? Wow half of the forum population must be Drunkenmaster's alts then.
Ghost hunter	Posted - 2005.01.05 00:37:00 - [163] As ive read this, I grew more and more irritated at this 'BKG' (Barge killing guild), and so a solution has come to mind. While haveing them banned is probably more perferable, my way is probably a more 'humane' apporach. Alright, you know how rats dont spawn .8 (or maybe even .7 i cant remember) + right? my idea is simply make it so a players ship guns (Smart bomb missile launchers nos' everything) are deactivated unless there is a member in system you are currently at war with. How to avoid them makeing a corp declareing war on an alt corp an haveing him just sit in system? Simple. Make a code so that their guns cannot and willnot fire on any other ship aside from the corp they are at war with. You can apply this method to .5+ and just make the guns only work on rats and the corp at war. Any comments?
Kalhystia	Posted - 2005.01.05 00:39:00 - [164] ok that's easy to counter thoses guys. As said before, you need one large ship with 2 large shield transfer fitted. I was in Raven near 3 mining barges when BlessedAngel, LordVander and Bokkler attacked tonight in Jita. I gave 320 shields X 2 each 5 seconds so they had trouble to make a breach. And the mining barge had time to escape while the 3 griefers were ganked by CONCORD. Another weird point is : just before the attack, we got Ryctor stealing some ore. Just as he left, the other ones were coming to attack. That's odd. I need more proofs before accusing someone, but that's truly very strange that 2 times Ryctor was just on the place before the ganking. Too bad I didn't had time to shoot I would like to post their own kill mails in their post.
Helplessandlost	Posted - 2005.01.05 00:41:00 - [165] Originally by: Avon Originally by: Helplessandlost Originally by: Discorporation Originally by: meoff Having flown one i can tell you they are not that nimble and how can friends help out unless they are shot at first? If you get shot, then they can help Where is this written where a gang member can shoot a non at war attacker on another gang member? The person who shoots first will be criminally flagged - open season. Criminally flagged to everyone, gang members or both? Check us out
Dao 2	Posted - 2005.01.05 00:55:00 - [166] these peeps are doing bad things wether or not they are griefing ;p maybe once or twice but they are doing it lots but i also think that ppl mining with barges (the non ice at least ;p) in high sec, especially noob systems is real lame to (maybe not as bad) i dont think suiciding is a bad thing, and i didnt even no running from concord is bannable (i think thats bad too bar the log offing ****) but making and using alts repeatedly is what i think is wrong here. i dont want changes to how it is now because i like it. dont no what to do ;p i think barges should have a hp increase anyway. but until it is officially in tq u no the risks ur taking when mining in something that paper thin, yes i do mine in barges ;p
Dao 2	Posted - 2005.01.05 00:56:00 - [167] Edited by: Dao 2 on 05/01/2005 01:02:04 double sorry ><
RollinDutchMasters	Posted - 2005.01.05 01:11:00 - [168] Originally by: Kendar Zek How many of you people condemning him claim to be pirates yourselves? Frankly, his attitude is the same I see from gate camping pirates. You're all people who get your enjoyment of the game from diminishing someone else's. Those of you living in glass houses shouldn't be throwing stones. Nearly every pirate in EVE is just as bad as this fellow. He's simply taking it as far as he possibly can, knowing that CCP doesn't mind players harassing other players. Your attitude disgusts me. More and more as I read this thread I see legitimate concerns about alts and low-risk gankings derailed by every carebear moron with an agenda. While I am not particularly happy with what theyve done, theyve broken no rules and done nothing outside what the game mechanics allow. My concern is simply for the overreaction CCP will obviously have when faced with such collective whining. The problem is that mining barges are helpless before several kestrels, and kestrel alts require roughly 1 hour of skill training time. That is the only problem. Stop trying to push your carebear agendas and idiotic prejudices under the cover of what is a simple flaw in the game design. It makes me sick, and I have nothing but contempt for the fools who are doing it. You are little better then vultures, looking to make a meal of someone's misfortune. Originally by: Sochin CCP has provided you with the tools you need to avoid crime. You're just too lazy/stupid to use them.
Ranger 1	Posted - 2005.01.05 01:27:00 - [169] Edited by: Ranger 1 on 05/01/2005 01:28:41 Amateurs. More armor on ships means this simple-minded tactic is not likely to be able to succeed for much longer. Even so, with very expensive, very vulnerable ships being moved... precautions need to be taken. Yes, even in empire. Best for some people to learn that lesson now. Kill the enemy, and break their toys.
Dau Imperius	Posted - 2005.01.05 01:33:00 - [170] Archbishop has pretty much been the only light in this whole thread. Going to be mailing a letter myself. Where in the heck is ISD anyways? Get CCP's attention for something not so trivial for once. Disco...from the way you encourage these griefers makes me wonder if you've got an alt with them now. shakes his head Wouldn't suprise me one bit, but it probably ain't true. I don't want to see nerfs for you PvPers, as it'll ruin your game, so I'm all for banning these sorry little gits, who seem to know nothing but First Person shooter games with no consequences. They are pretty pathetic wastes of flesh, and I mean that in the most out of game way I possibly can. It would be different if they wrre doing this in .4 to 0.0 space, but brining attitudes like this into games means they ain't sane in Real Life and need some electro-shock therepy, real bad. Yeah that's my rant. Anyways, banning is the simplest way, it's their money to waste if they keep trying to activate new accounts. They are not going to learn their lesson until someone decides to shaft them in RL for being punks later down the road.
Kalhystia	Posted - 2005.01.05 01:39:00 - [171] Edited by: Kalhystia on 05/01/2005 01:44:16 Ok more about the strange link between Ryctor and our mysterious griefers. First Ryctor came to try to steal some ore; all he got was 1 Scordite. [ 2005.01.04 23:55:09 ] Marl Summon > ore theif got 1 scordite [ 2005.01.04 23:55:13 ] Pyrox > no worries [ 2005.01.04 23:55:14 ] Marl Summon > poor thief [ 2005.01.04 23:55:19 ] jason hill > lol [ 2005.01.04 23:55:52 ] Pyrox > might get a slice of bread for that [ 2005.01.04 23:55:54 ] Maggie Peterson > aww, where did ryctor go? [ 2005.01.04 23:56:32 ] Marl Summon > enjoy your one scordite [ 2005.01.04 23:56:39 ] Marl Summon > ryctor [ 2005.01.04 23:57:52 ] jason hill > is hagning about a bit :0) [ 2005.01.04 23:59:40 ] jason hill > then a raven shows up :0) [ 2005.01.05 00:00:02 ] Kalhystia > nothing else to do After that Ryctor stayed with us in order to be able to steal the ore directly when we put it in the can (didn't worked cuz we got large barges and haulers). Then he suddenly warped out of our ice belt. And the nice thing to tell is we were attacked by BlessedAngel, LordVander and Bokkler 5 mins later. It failed cuz I was using two large shields transfer from my raven on Jason hill, the attacked miner, providing him enough time to escape. So our griefer attack failed and they got ganked by Concord. [ 2005.01.05 00:20:26 ] Pyrox > got out jason? [ 2005.01.05 00:20:29 ] Kalhystia > k Ryctor [ 2005.01.05 00:20:35 ] jason hill > thanksyro p [ 2005.01.05 00:20:37 ] Kalhystia > now I know with which side you are [ 2005.01.05 00:20:38 ] Ryctor > Yes? [ 2005.01.05 00:20:47 ] Kalhystia > 2 times now ;) [ 2005.01.05 00:20:47 ] jason hill > i did yes [ 2005.01.05 00:20:52 ] Kalhystia > ok Jason [ 2005.01.05 00:20:53 ] Pyrox > good on you [ 2005.01.05 00:20:54 ] Ryctor > 0.o? [ 2005.01.05 00:21:02 ] Kalhystia > my nice trick worked [ 2005.01.05 00:21:21 ] Ryctor > Right.... [ 2005.01.05 00:21:47 ] Kalhystia > k all guys that's easy to counter thoses griefers [ 2005.01.05 00:22:03 ] Kalhystia > just get a large ship with 2 shield transfer [ 2005.01.05 00:22:38 ] Pyrox > yeah [ 2005.01.05 00:22:39 ] jason hill > i..just cant believe these peeps [ 2005.01.05 00:22:46 ] Kalhystia > told you [ 2005.01.05 00:22:52 ] LordVander > jason, your a marked man now [ 2005.01.05 00:23:10 ] Kalhystia > hmm [ 2005.01.05 00:23:10 ] Pyrox > lol [ 2005.01.05 00:23:12 ] jason hill > been a marked man for nearly 2yrs :0) that the second time Ryctor is seen just before and after the attack of the griefers... for first time go there: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=139765 Very strange isn't it?
Killer Gandry	Posted - 2005.01.05 01:39:00 - [172] Silly scared little kids who have mains that just can't make it out there. So they go around griefing. Going to mail the Devs once a week till they take action on it. Though I despise orethieves, those that do it while being in a Corp atleast give players a fair chance to gank them back. Pirates are on a whole other lvl, they are an integrated part in the game. They make a big part of their living on the pirate raids they do. These kids are only hurting people without any other benefit then having fun of other people's misery. If they however use other alts or their main to pick up the loot then there isn't only griefing but allso use of an exploit. However, let's all just write a letter to CCP or fax them or even phone them to get these kids banned, not just their account but their IP in total. We are a mature playerbase and should keep kids like that out till they can walk around the house without dipers. Better to try and fail, then to fail due to not trying
Bokkler	Posted - 2005.01.05 01:40:00 - [173] Edited by: Bokkler on 05/01/2005 01:44:02 Originally by: Kalhystia ok that's easy to counter thoses guys. As said before, you need one large ship with 2 large shield transfer fitted. I was in Raven near 3 mining barges when BlessedAngel, LordVander and Bokkler attacked tonight in Jita. I gave 320 shields X 2 each 5 seconds so they had trouble to make a breach. And the mining barge had time to escape while the 3 griefers were ganked by CONCORD. Another weird point is : just before the attack, we got Ryctor stealing some ore. Just as he left, the other ones were coming to attack. That's odd. I need more proofs before accusing someone, but that's truly very strange that 2 times Ryctor was just on the place before the ganking. Too bad I didn't had time to shoot I would like to post their own kill mails in their post. You god damn ** Blocker, dont you see men working here, and then you go and step on our s. ***.
Rufus Cross	Posted - 2005.01.05 01:45:00 - [174] oooh...sounds like fun...I think I need to recomission my kessie
Jayad	Posted - 2005.01.05 01:46:00 - [175] Bokkler, your damaging the game, the new blood with these actions, new people have to grow.
Kalhystia	Posted - 2005.01.05 01:48:00 - [176] Edited by: Kalhystia on 05/01/2005 01:49:20 Originally by: Bokkler Edited by: Bokkler on 05/01/2005 01:44:02 You god damn ** Blocker, dont you see men working here, and then you go and step on our s. ***. Sorry man, but what you're doing is not men working.... it's only RUINING other people day. And you're not attacking people who can defend themselves. You're attacking barges.
Coret Trobane	Posted - 2005.01.05 01:53:00 - [177] Originally by: Bokkler Edited by: Bokkler on 05/01/2005 01:44:02 Originally by: Kalhystia ok that's easy to counter thoses guys. As said before, you need one large ship with 2 large shield transfer fitted. I was in Raven near 3 mining barges when BlessedAngel, LordVander and Bokkler attacked tonight in Jita. I gave 320 shields X 2 each 5 seconds so they had trouble to make a breach. And the mining barge had time to escape while the 3 griefers were ganked by CONCORD. Another weird point is : just before the attack, we got Ryctor stealing some ore. Just as he left, the other ones were coming to attack. That's odd. I need more proofs before accusing someone, but that's truly very strange that 2 times Ryctor was just on the place before the ganking. Too bad I didn't had time to shoot I would like to post their own kill mails in their post. You god damn ** Blocker, dont you see men working here, and then you go and step on our s. ***. Someone sounds a little annoyed ... glad my idea works and there are some people out there to use it :)
Kalhystia	Posted - 2005.01.05 02:10:00 - [178] yeah was a nice idea indeed. Remote armor repairers should do it too. At least they know how it feels to get his day ruined because of someone else.
Kendar Zek	Posted - 2005.01.05 02:20:00 - [179] Originally by: RollinDutchMasters Your attitude disgusts me. More and more as I read this thread I see legitimate concerns about alts and low-risk gankings derailed by every carebear moron with an agenda. While I am not particularly happy with what theyve done, theyve broken no rules and done nothing outside what the game mechanics allow. My concern is simply for the overreaction CCP will obviously have when faced with such collective whining. The problem is that mining barges are helpless before several kestrels, and kestrel alts require roughly 1 hour of skill training time. That is the only problem. Stop trying to push your carebear agendas and idiotic prejudices under the cover of what is a simple flaw in the game design. It makes me sick, and I have nothing but contempt for the fools who are doing it. You are little better then vultures, looking to make a meal of someone's misfortune. Don't get so agitated. I don't particularly care. I don't own a mining barge, nor do I go into areas where there are gate campers. Neither of these things affect me, but they are still legitimate concerns of people who want to enjoy playing WITHOUT bothering others or being bothered. By your logic, if the game mechanics allowed Ravens to sit outside the stations in the new player systems and blow up newbies as they leave station, it should be perfectly acceptable. The fact is, sometimes the game mechanics are flatly out of line and need to be adjusted. I've simply stated that pirates - people who get their jollies off making someone else suffer - have no room to complain about people who are fundamentally doing the same thing.
lollerskates	Posted - 2005.01.05 02:41:00 - [180] How did this lame thread get 9 pages long...?

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