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Emperor Cheney Celebrity Sex Tape	Posted - 2010.10.27 01:44:00 - [151] Originally by: Selinate they made the female characters so.... how should I say it... from an anime nerd's wet dream... So, they were 9 year old girls permanently chained to a basement operating table? That seems like an odd gameplay mechanic.
Selinate Amarr Wardens of the Void	Posted - 2010.10.27 02:02:00 - [152] Originally by: Emperor Cheney So, they were 9 year old girls permanently chained to a basement operating table? That seems like an odd gameplay mechanic. ....disturbing...... No, you can just go check out screenshots yourself and find out.
Cataca	Posted - 2010.10.27 02:53:00 - [153] Originally by: Ghoest Im the one who first used the word transvestite in this thread. Im using the common definition from the most general accepted source of Engilsh(or maybe American English Im not sure what Brits use.words. So if youre only probelm is that Im not using your prefered definition - then you are wrong not me. I probably should have expressed myself with less words, in a less complicated fashion then, cause i pretty much proved you are wrong, using YOUR preferred definition.
Ghoest	Posted - 2010.10.27 04:03:00 - [154] Originally by: Cataca Originally by: Ghoest Im the one who first used the word transvestite in this thread. Im using the common definition from the most general accepted source of Engilsh(or maybe American English Im not sure what Brits use.words. So if youre only probelm is that Im not using your prefered definition - then you are wrong not me. No my definition agrees rather nicley with what I said. Obviously Im substituting "female avatar" for "female clothing" but I think thats rather obxious - IRL you cant have an avatar clothing and make up is the best you can do. I probably should have expressed myself with less words, in a less complicated fashion then, cause i pretty much proved you are wrong, using YOUR preferred definition. Wherever you went - Here you are.
Selinate Amarr Wardens of the Void	Posted - 2010.10.27 04:24:00 - [155] Originally by: Ghoest No my definition agrees rather nicley with what I said. Obviously Im substituting "female avatar" for "female clothing" but I think thats rather obxious - IRL you cant have an avatar clothing and make up is the best you can do. Some people are stupid just because they are born that way, but you, sir, have just officially chosen to be stupid. I guess the lesson here is when someone chooses to be the way that you've chosen to be, you can't fix them. All you can do is live and let one run around being an idiot and mucking up his/her own life. However, if you wish to do a good deed for the rest of the world (especially these forums), please, keep your stupidity to yourself. Then again, I guess that's asking to much.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2010.10.27 05:22:00 - [156] Edited by: Tippia on 27/10/2010 05:25:31 Originally by: Banana Im using the common definition from the most general accepted source of Engilsh(or maybe American English Im not sure what Brits use.words. No. You are using an antiquated description from a source that is not authoritative on the topic, and treating that as a definition. The fact that you don't even know this distinction just further proves your ignorance of the topic. The errors in this description are obvious, and had you actually had any idea what you were talking about, you would have spotted this very early on. You didn't, so you don't know what you're talking about. Quote: So if youre only probelm is that Im not using your prefered definition - then you are wrong not me. You are not using a definition at all and treating it as such, and then you refuse to look at the actual definition, even when it's been explained to you why you should, because that would rob you of a word you have grown accustomed to using incorrectly. Guess what this makes you? So, have you looked up what "transestism", "cross-dressing", "gender" and "identity" mean yet? Oh, andà Quote: Obviously Im substituting "female avatar" for "female clothing" but I think thats rather obxious - IRL you cant have an avatar clothing and make up is the best you can do. This is of course incorrect as well, which you would know if you had done the slightest bit of research rather than relying on your own ignorant assumptions. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
Ash Donai	Posted - 2010.10.27 06:18:00 - [157] Edited by: Ash Donai on 27/10/2010 06:20:11 Originally by: Tippia Originally by: Ghoest a person and especially a male who adopts the dress and often the behavior typical of the opposite sex especially for purposes of emotional or sexual gratification 1. Source? Well, there is autogynephilia which is pretty much what Ghoest is talking about. That's very real, but whether it applies to male players with female toons is questionable.
Ran Khanon Amarr Swords Horses and Heavy Metal	Posted - 2010.10.27 06:33:00 - [158] What would Freud say? ~~Recruiting!~~
Ash Donai	Posted - 2010.10.27 06:50:00 - [159] Originally by: Ran Khanon What would Freud say? More importantly, what's CCP going to do when Incarna goes live? Allow gender change for existing players who picked female because there was no avatar to go along with it? If they allow gender change, what about name change? Be kind of weird to have a dude named Jennifer running around.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2010.10.27 07:34:00 - [160] Originally by: Ash Donai Well, there is autogynephilia which is pretty much what Ghoest is talking about. That's very real, but whether it applies to male players with female toons is questionable. True and true: and that's kind of the point ù it's not the right term nor a particularly suitable application. Oh, and one more thingà Originally by: Ghoest Im the one who first used the word transvestite in this thread. àand you used it wrong, which is why your idea isn't getting much traction. Being the first to use it doesn't make your (incorrect) interpretation authoritative, you know. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki

T'Amber Macabre Votum Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2010.10.27 07:59:00 - [161] Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton all the characters I create are guys. I have 1 female character because I bought it that way. I am the opposite with all female chars bar one male who looks like some kind of seedy pimp. I find female characters much more attractive and would rather look at them on my screen than men. THANKS FOR ALL THE FISH!
Tyber Zaan	Posted - 2010.10.27 08:20:00 - [162] Originally by: T'Amber Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton all the characters I create are guys. I have 1 female character because I bought it that way. I am the opposite with all female chars bar one male who looks like some kind of seedy pimp. I find female characters much more attractive and would rather look at them on my screen than men. Actually, according to Ghoest, you are a transvestite and secretly want to be a woman.
Dictum Factum Skill Training	Posted - 2010.10.27 09:27:00 - [163] Yes.
Jennifer Starling	Posted - 2010.10.27 10:44:00 - [164] Originally by: Ash Donai Be kind of weird to have a dude named Jennifer running around. Indeed, that's not going to happen! I'm a bit concerned though because the new Khanids look like teenage girls, not at all like they used to look. ;(
Victor Valka Caldari The Kairos Syndicate Transmission Lost	Posted - 2010.10.27 11:16:00 - [165] "'Character' is something I own, not something I am", as someone wisely once put it. It's a simple statement that we should all think about for a moment. Originally by: Spaztick You are not outnumbered, you are in a target-rich environment.
Cipher Jones Minmatar	Posted - 2010.10.27 12:13:00 - [166] Originally by: Delaeon It's a game. I don't play it to "hit" on other players so it doesn't really matter if the "female" avatar is being played by a "guy" or not. If you are looking to "hit" on girls in-game, I could see where this would be an issue. Girls out-of-game are more fun though. Yes it does, it means they have gender issues.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2010.10.27 12:17:00 - [167] Originally by: Cipher Jones Yes it does, it means they have gender issues. Who? Based on what? ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
Ava Starfire Minmatar Nordanverdr Modr	Posted - 2010.10.27 12:31:00 - [168] Originally by: omgfreemoniez Originally by: Ava Starfire Girl playing as girl. TBH, I'm sort of surprised. I dont know how good of a sample this thread would be, but I always imagined there were a few more female gamers than there seem to be. Best not to devote too much thought to it, I guess. There are very very very few girls who PvP. Many more who mine or mission, but they are filthy carebears and worth more as killmails than as people. I dont know; I pvp (solo losec frig pirate) and know a couple of other RL women who are pirates/pvpers. I also know a couple that carebear it up. Who knows. Dirty Little Slave, reporting for duty!
Ghoest	Posted - 2010.10.27 14:03:00 - [169] Originally by: Tippia whines etc Im using old standardized and commonly understood definitions. And Im happy with them. If you want new meanings use your new words. Wherever you went - Here you are.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2010.10.27 14:07:00 - [170] Edited by: Tippia on 27/10/2010 14:40:03 Originally by: Ghoest Im using old standardized and commonly understood definitions. And Im happy with them. No. You are using obsolete meanings that no longer describe what they used to (cf. "democracy," or, hell, "schizophrenia" to make a much more closely related example). This makes you misunderstood, and that might explain why your idea doesn't get much traction: you're not actually saying what you think you're saying. Quote: If you want new meanings use your new words. Language doesn't work that way. If you want to say something, say what you actually mean, rather than something tangentially related. Precision is good for you. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki

Syn Callibri Minmatar 21st Eridani Lighthorse	Posted - 2010.10.27 14:38:00 - [171] Originally by: Ghoest Virtual or wannabe transvestites. Not that theirs anything wrong with being a transvestite but its what you are if youre a guy pretending to be a girl. Whether or not the person playing any gender character is of that gender only matters if your a pathetic basement dweller trying to cyber with them. Oh and...LOLZ. Syn Callibri Commander - Fleet Ops [21EL] Keeper of the Blood Pact

CCP Dropbear	Posted - 2010.10.27 15:03:00 - [172] Originally by: Pod Salesman I am a consciousness transferred between ships by a intermediate flesh-husk, which sadly, remains as a necessary interface. A pod within a pod. I like this answer. Thumbs up

Sig Sour	Posted - 2010.10.27 15:50:00 - [173] It is pretty funny when someone gets all gushy over one of my female characters... People use "furries" in a lot of jokes, but I think its ****ing funny someone is hitting on pixels. IMO people who get mad about who is running a character are kind of like "furries" that we don't have a name for yet. When people hit on my one of my girl characters, I could stop it before it starts, but then I wouldn't have as much laughter ammo stockpiled against you.
Syn Callibri Minmatar 21st Eridani Lighthorse	Posted - 2010.10.27 15:59:00 - [174] Originally by: Sig Sour It is pretty funny when someone gets all gushy over one of my female characters... People use "furries" in a lot of jokes, but I think its ***ing funny someone is hitting on pixels. IMO people who get mad about who is running a character are kind of like "furries" that we don't have a name for yet. When people hit on my one of my girl characters, I could stop it before it starts, but then I wouldn't have as much laughter ammo stockpiled against you. You sir get +1. Syn Callibri Commander - Fleet Ops [21EL] Keeper of the Blood Pact*
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2010.10.27 17:15:00 - [175] Originally by: Sig Sour People use "furries" in a lot of jokes, but I think its ***ing funny someone is hitting on pixels. IMO people who get mad about who is running a character are kind of like "furries" that we don't have a name for yet. Pixies? ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki*
Sig Sour	Posted - 2010.10.27 17:21:00 - [176] Originally by: Tippia Pixies? Thought about that one, but I think we can come up with something more clever.
Khorian Gallente Versatech Co. Blade.	Posted - 2010.10.27 17:52:00 - [177] Do you remember what a tamagotchi is? Some people might just treat their chars as their little babies that they care for so they get big and strong and sexy and beautiful. These I would call "third person" players. They don't identify with their char directly but act more as a godlike entity that guides the char through the universe. It would then only make sense for a male player to take care of a sexy female char. The other type of player is then of course the "first person" player, who directly identify with their char. They play directly through the eyes of their char, they are their char and their char is them. Then you have those who don't give a damn. And finally I won't deny that there even might be people that play the opposite sex because they can identify with it better. But why would you care? You wouldn't discriminate them in RL, so why would you in a game. Unless of course you hail from Afghanistan.
Max Cetera	Posted - 2010.10.27 18:04:00 - [178] I'm a male monkey IRL. Used to play a paladin in WoW but it was so easy, even for a monkey, that I gave up. So now I'm updating sell orders and occasionnally going out in my Drake and joining NC blobs on my alt.
Cataca	Posted - 2010.10.27 18:23:00 - [179] Originally by: Ghoest Originally by: Tippia whines etc Im using old standardized and commonly understood definitions. And Im happy with them. If you want new meanings use your new words. Even when going after "your" bloody definition, it proves you wrong. A transvestite after that definition, would have to get something else than visual stimulation out of some avatar they chose. Thus, they would have to, as said like a billion times, lie about their real sex and then get something out of that. The picture in this case that you have, doesn't have to do anything with it. Basically, you could go to some chat, with your current avatar, then say you are a girl in real life. You can do that with the picture of a dog as your avatar, or a car it wont matter one bit. What this thread does show tho, is that you need to represent your manliness through a tiny pic in an mmo, where your avatar is vastly unimportant. But yes, you clearly won the argument, congratulations. Im sure that homophobia that goes hand in hand with "im right because i say so" attitude will get you far in life.
Selinate Amarr Wardens of the Void	Posted - 2010.10.27 19:04:00 - [180] Originally by: Cataca Even when going after "your" bloody definition, it proves you wrong. A transvestite after that definition, would have to get something else than visual stimulation out of some avatar they chose. Thus, they would have to, as said like a billion times, lie about their real sex and then get something out of that. The picture in this case that you have, doesn't have to do anything with it. Basically, you could go to some chat, with your current avatar, then say you are a girl in real life. You can do that with the picture of a dog as your avatar, or a car it wont matter one bit. What this thread does show tho, is that you need to represent your manliness through a tiny pic in an mmo, where your avatar is vastly unimportant. But yes, you clearly won the argument, congratulations. Im sure that homophobia that goes hand in hand with "im right because i say so" attitude will get you far in life. Not trying to be rude or anything of the sorts, but I just have to say deja vu. I posted essentially the same thing a page back He's an immature child who refuses to accept anyone's opinion other than the unsubstantiated, ignorant, and intolerant one that is his own. I can only imagine what his childhood was like considering the state of denial he's in right now about the fact that his argument is simply "I'm right, you're wrong, i win!"



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