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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2012.08.05 18:20:00 -
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Barbara Nichole wrote:would you really play a game for years that forced you into thinking you were inferior and you might as well quit because you'll never be able to play "right"?
Since 2006  Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |

Ensign X
26
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Posted - 2012.08.05 18:36:00 -
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Ensign X wrote:It's not about EVE players thinking they're superior, it's nerds in general...I pity the nerd.
Tom Gerard wrote:int bPlayingEVE = 1;
do { System.Console.WriteLine("I am Superior!"); } while (bPlayingEVE = 1);
Case closed. |

Josef Djugashvilis
The Scope Gallente Federation
387
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Posted - 2012.08.05 19:51:00 -
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Scatim Helicon wrote:Eve is a smart and complex game, so the players assume they must be smart and complex because they're playing it.
In reality, the average Eve player is dumber than a sack of bricks and doesn't understand 90% of what happens in game.
The truth hurts, and boy do I hurt. You want fries with that? |

Ganjjabeard
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
21
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Posted - 2012.08.05 20:01:00 -
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OP is verrrryyyy wrong. EVE online takes alllooootttttt of skill and an equal amount if not more of knowledge. this game is by far the most confusing technical game ive ever played and ive played alot of games in my time. this game feels more like a job than anything ive ever played, but the reason i play it is because of 2 very important things.
1. losses and dying actually mean something terrible. you lose a spaceship, gotta go outa ur way to reacquire the materials and rebuild it again, only to have it popped again. and thats just your spaceship. then we have your shiny pod with implants and skillpoints. the most devastating thing in this game is losing a pod with hella sp and realising you didnt update your medical stuff before hand so 30mil points goes to 900,000 again. LOL no this didnt happen to me but i think of it all the time which forces me to constantly make sure im updated lol. just the possibility that this can happen shows that the developers want to troll their players lol.
2. my cubicle is a spaceship! so yea even if the game feels like a job sometimes, im doing something which im pretty sure i will never do in my real life, which is fly around the universe in a spaceship fit out with awesome guns. the universe is a truely beautiful work of art, and ccp did a great job of making EVE online's universe look as beautiful as the real thing. just google different galaxies and nebulae (yes the plural form of nebula) and stuff and look at the pictures that our telescopes capture. as carl sagan once said, "a still more glorious dawn awaits."
anyways yea this is definitely the best game imo cuz i love space and the feeling of blowing up someone elses shiny toys, but it also requires the most skill, patience, and knowledge of any game ive ever seen. in terms of the mechanics of the game and technicality, id consider this game more of a simulator to be used in a lab or something to test things lol with all the damn numbers lol
but ya the reason why i feel superior to other gamers is because this game takes so much skill and knowledge that it dwarfs any other game. even minecraft is tougher than other games like shooters where you just have to be all tweaked out on something to shoot someone faster than they shoot you. at least rts games take some skill and strategy to win. but nothing at all comes close to the skill needed to play and maintain an EVE online account. (let alone 1, most players have like more than 2 or 3 characters they play at once even more lol!) get in the van. |

Maddie Gunslinger
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
13
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Posted - 2012.08.05 21:37:00 -
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Tom Gerard wrote:int bPlayingEVE = 1;
do { System.Console.WriteLine("I am Superior!"); } while (bPlayingEVE = 1);
You seriously need to take a look at this you posted, or I will grade it for you and make you feel like a ganked machariel mission runner. 
What? No... |

Omega Sunset
Caldari Roughnecks
19
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Posted - 2012.08.05 22:04:00 -
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Here is something more to ignore:
Dictionary dot com:
Skill
1. the ability, coming from one's knowledge, practice, aptitude, etc., to do something well
Fail. Now back to ignor-ance and the bliss thereof. |

Chokichi Ozuwara
Royal One Piece Corporation Deadly Unknown
398
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Posted - 2012.08.05 22:44:00 -
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Nerf Burger wrote:I actually think its pretty smart to post on an alt in a game like this where some disgruntled no-lifer would actually dedicate time trying to annoy me after hearing the unwanted truth. Being a coward is sometimes smart. It's still cowardly though. Tears will be shed and pants will need to be changed all round. |

ashley Eoner
38
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Posted - 2012.08.05 22:58:00 -
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pussnheels wrote:As soi many of my fellow ^posters pointed out , we feel superior because we play a superior and unique game how many %%O qs ar'e out there that can claim that they are a sandbox and have a player driven universe , where one mistake can coist you months of invested time and still we come back again and again this game needs more than just the skills ingame , it is one of the only games where you need some brainpower if you want to succeed and this is why alot of us feel superior towards other MMO gamers r Unique game? This game has been done over and over through the years. Trade Wars Space Merchant SMR etc etc.. Hell despite being in space the game itself is a very conventional game with obvious parallels to mainstream MMOs. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1239
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Posted - 2012.08.05 23:06:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Barbara Nichole wrote:would you really play a game for years that forced you into thinking you were inferior and you might as well quit because you'll never be able to play "right"? Since 2006  Oh my, what game would that be.
Sounds terrible  Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |

Elliot Vodka
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
17
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Posted - 2012.08.05 23:09:00 -
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Frying Doom
Zat's Affiliated Traders
424
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Posted - 2012.08.05 23:24:00 -
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Omega Sunset wrote:Frying Doom wrote:All games have players who believe they are superior to other gamers of different games or the one they are playing.
Generally it just denotes a sad existence. We should not hate or dislike these people but just pity them.
We can all easily point to people in this game who believe they are better than other EvE players or for that matter better than the players of another game. So just feel pity and don't feed their ego or they will spend longer online trying to get gratification in their lives. So you are not better at anything in comparison to anyone else? Is that what you are saying of yourself? Sounds like crates of gold stars... In this game no I am not, those things I excel at I presume there are others who do it better. In Real Life well that is none of your business but I do not need a game to give me life affirmation  Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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ashley Eoner
38
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Posted - 2012.08.05 23:45:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Omega Sunset wrote:Frying Doom wrote:All games have players who believe they are superior to other gamers of different games or the one they are playing.
Generally it just denotes a sad existence. We should not hate or dislike these people but just pity them.
We can all easily point to people in this game who believe they are better than other EvE players or for that matter better than the players of another game. So just feel pity and don't feed their ego or they will spend longer online trying to get gratification in their lives. So you are not better at anything in comparison to anyone else? Is that what you are saying of yourself? Sounds like crates of gold stars... In this game no I am not, those things I excel at I presume there are others who do it better. In Real Life well that is none of your business but I do not need a game to give me life affirmation  Indeed I don't need pixels to make me feel better about my life. I'm quite superior enough in person :P |

Shameless Avenger
Can Preachers of Kador
405
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Posted - 2012.08.06 01:07:00 -
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Tom Gerard wrote:int bPlayingEVE = 1;
do { System.Console.WriteLine("I am Superior!"); } while (bPlayingEVE = 1);
I think you wanted to do a compare on the while statement... as in "==" instead of "=". But it will do the same as it is. :) me likes.
I would like to expand upon this:
int bPlayingEVE = 1; int SkillPoints = 900;
do { SkillPoints = EVEapi.get.SkillPoints(); System.Console.WriteLine("I am ". SkillPoints." Times Superior!"); } while (bPlayingEVE = 1) "This is the Ninja. He will scan you down; he will salvage your wrecks and there shall be no aggro" |

Bootleg Jack
Potters Field
224
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Posted - 2012.08.06 01:13:00 -
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Looks like Java, he seems to be using ints for bools to feed his endless loop :) I'm an American, English is my second language... |

Maddie Gunslinger
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
13
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Posted - 2012.08.06 04:58:00 -
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Shameless Avenger wrote:Tom Gerard wrote:int bPlayingEVE = 1;
do { System.Console.WriteLine("I am Superior!"); } while (bPlayingEVE = 1); I think you wanted to do a compare on the while statement... as in "==" instead of "=". But it will do the same as it is. :) me likes. I would like to expand upon this: int bPlayingEVE = 1; int SkillPoints = 900; do { SkillPoints = EVEapi.get.SkillPoints(); System.Console.WriteLine("I am ". SkillPoints." Times Superior!"); } while (bPlayingEVE = 1)
Horrible, scary and frightening. I will now remove my self from these forums indefinitely. What? No... |

Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
846
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Posted - 2012.08.06 08:03:00 -
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Each time I finish a round in an FPS game with a KD ratio lower than 3:1, I use a razor blade to remove one centimeter from one of my fingernails.
You don't even want to know what I do after losing a ship in EVE. In fact, I don't even think it's legal to talk about it in my state.
I can safely tell you that I'm a superior gamer. (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST) |

Lexmana
646
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Posted - 2012.08.06 08:22:00 -
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Nerf Burger wrote: For one thing, it doesn't take any special skill to play EVE.
To play EVE you need brains. You also need brains to understand what skills you need. Unfortunately, most people doesn't have enough brains and think EVE requiers no skills. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1240
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Posted - 2012.08.06 08:23:00 -
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Lexmana wrote:Nerf Burger wrote: For one thing, it doesn't take any special skill to play EVE.
To play EVE you need brains. You also need brains to understand what skills you need. Unfortunately, most people doesn't have enough brains and think EVE requiers no skills. Oh my, that's quite a brave statement ^___^ Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |

Shalua Rui
FEROX AQUILA
251
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Posted - 2012.08.06 08:25:00 -
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Lexmana wrote:To play EVE you need brains. You also need brains to understand what skills you need. Unfortunately, most people doesn't have enough brains and think EVE requiers no skills.
I'm bored, so I'll stir up the hornets nest alittle by saying:
You don't need skill, or much brains to group gank others at gates, true... but try working the market successfully without either. "I wish to have no Connection with any Ship that does not Sail fast for I intend to go in harm's way."
Captain John Paul Jones, 16 November 1778 |

Lexmana
648
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Posted - 2012.08.06 08:53:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Lexmana wrote:Nerf Burger wrote: For one thing, it doesn't take any special skill to play EVE.
To play EVE you need brains. You also need brains to understand what skills you need. Unfortunately, most people doesn't have enough brains and think EVE requiers no skills. Oh my, that's quite a brave statement ^___^
Haha. I do have enough brains enough to realize that my skills are still lacking. This is a ******* complex game with many layers. And I am still bad at EVE.
Shalua Rui wrote: I'm bored, so I'll stir up the hornets nest alittle by saying:
You don't need skill, or much brains to group gank others at gates, true... but try working the market successfully without either.
Group ganks at gates is easymode PvP every time it is not. One interesting thing with EVE is that combat PvP may seem so ******* simple at the surface (click orbit and activate point and guns - almost like missions) but is so much deeper and complex when you begin to learn the game.
I myself find kil2 and eveiseasy videos a great inspiration for solo/small gang tactics. And running fleets succsefully is not an easy task. It really makes a difference when you have a good FC, scout and support.
Me, I am still just a drone but I am learning. |

Shalua Rui
FEROX AQUILA
267
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Posted - 2012.08.06 08:57:00 -
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Lexmana wrote:I myself find kil2 and eveiseasy videos a great inspiration for solo/small gang tactics. And running fleets succsefully is not an easy task. It really makes a difference when you have a good FC, scout and support. Me, I am still just a drone but I am learning.
Given, I'm well aware that combat PvP CAN be deep, and that there are FCs that would put real military admirals to shame with their tactical skills... point is, you don't NEED that level of skill to be successful in combat... to make a living off it, so to speak.
To make bigtime money working the market on the other hand... "I wish to have no Connection with any Ship that does not Sail fast for I intend to go in harm's way."
Captain John Paul Jones, 16 November 1778 |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
4359
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Posted - 2012.08.06 09:06:00 -
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Maybe one of the reasons is that the game is a bit different and more harsh in terms of death compared to other games. But agreed in terms of actual "skill" it's easier to F1-F8 than aiming in a FPS (for me at least, but then I am a terrible gamer so...).
While knowledge is needed, maybe that's why people feel they are better gamers, because it involves more thinking than just pure pew pew pew and quick reactions, guess it's just a definition of what "good gamer" means really.
Interesting thoughts regardless.
/c
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Alice Saki
1381
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Posted - 2012.08.06 09:08:00 -
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I AM OMEGA. Scottish Interweb Spaceshippy Person, GINGER PRIDE xD Oh and PICKLES! |

Shalua Rui
FEROX AQUILA
273
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Posted - 2012.08.06 09:13:00 -
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Alice Saki wrote:I AM OMEGA.
*wooshes around the corner* THERE YOU ARE! 
@Chribba: Yup, but that's the thing: I suck at most types of games... especially FPS... but a game like EVE rewards more then just quick thinking and hand eye coordination... so the question should really be: Is EVE a superior game? "I wish to have no Connection with any Ship that does not Sail fast for I intend to go in harm's way."
Captain John Paul Jones, 16 November 1778 |

Doddy
Excidium. Executive Outcomes
84
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Posted - 2012.08.06 09:20:00 -
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"Skill" in eve is deceptive really. How much skill involved comes down to how you choose to play. An alliance grunt who is given a standard fit and has nothing more to do than orbit an anchor and F1 the called primary certainly isn't straining themselves. On the other hand there are the fcs who are doing micro/macro to a greater degree than most gamers. There are logistics pilots deploying judgement skills you wont see in many games. In small gang pvp especially with nanos etc manual flying and spatial awareness mean skill is infact important. Then you need to consider all those multi-boxers who are really doing pretty impressive micro management.
Then of course you need to consider less obvious skills. The organisational skills behind alliance logistics or trade empires for example. Or the social skills most eve players have that other gamers don't need to develop at all (especially the spies/corp thieves etc). |

Tara Read
The Generic Pirate Corporation Fusion.
109
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Posted - 2012.08.06 09:26:00 -
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I'll say it again Safety in numbers is a false security and a false attitude. I never stop learning in this game. Having an attitude of humility and drive to be more proficient makes one deadly. Like they say it's the quiet one's you gotta watch out for.
Except now I troll more just for tears.  |

Karim alRashid
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
191
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Posted - 2012.08.06 09:47:00 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Anyone who thinks they are 'superior' because they play Eve, should quit. Now
Nah, it's the opposite, mate - because we're superior, that's why we play EvE.  |

Karim alRashid
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
191
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Posted - 2012.08.06 10:03:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Nerf Burger wrote:
Set me right, EVE forum dwellers, what makes you superior?
All these likes I have.
Just made you a bit more superior.  |

feihcsiM
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2012.08.06 12:11:00 -
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As most of my EVE gameplay takes place on my boat, moored on a large lake straddling the North Central United States and Southern Canada, the largest body of fresh water in the world, some 350 miles long, 31,820 square miles, and with a depth of up to 1290 feet , I would say I am a Superior gamer. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
8904
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Posted - 2012.08.06 12:15:00 -
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feihcsiM wrote:As most of my EVE gameplay takes place on my boat, moored on a large lake straddling the North Central United States and Southern Canada, the largest body of fresh water in the world, some 350 miles long, 31,820 square miles, and with a depth of up to 1290 feet , I would say I am a Superior gamer. Boooo! Hisss! GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
CONCORD spawns: quick enough to save you?
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