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Zagdul
Gallente Shadowed Command Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2010.10.28 11:40:00 -
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Edited by: Zagdul on 28/10/2010 11:44:27
Originally by: Lynn Deniera
Originally by: Zagdul
Originally by: CCP Bella Bee
Originally by: Zagdul Edited by: Zagdul on 28/10/2010 01:17:12 Edited by: Zagdul on 28/10/2010 01:15:03 I'm still having issues with the mail system.
While typing my mail client has a problem typing each letter. There seems to still be a leakage issue somewhere.
Symptom: While typing an EVEMail my system seems to "stutter" as I type each letter and the game struggles to keep up to speed with my typing.
Unfortunately we are not yet comfortable with releasing the fix for this issue since it involves a lot of changes to the edit field.
I understand you not being comfortable with releasing this yet as I'm sure there's a lot of fixes needed to get the mail client to interact properly with the new back end. However, mail in EVE when running a corporation is probably one of the most vital tools we have in game at our disposal.
It's something we cannot live without and in it's current state, it's very broken, annoying and just plain painful to use.
As a personal favor, can you bump this particular fix up on your priority list of things to do?
It's annoying sure, but you can just as easily write it in evegate or notepad. The only issue is that it's almost impossible to link items in a mail now.
Agreed, if the linking aspect could at least be fixed I think I'd be able to cope for a bit longer.
I'm pretty patient as I know the whole core of the UI being replaced will break a lot. The UI being as complex and in such a dated state only makes it that much more open to breakage, this updated backend replacement was a long needed addition to EVE.
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Daedalus II
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Posted - 2010.10.28 11:47:00 -
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Edited by: Daedalus II on 28/10/2010 11:53:13 @ Zagdul and Lynn Deniera Have you actually checked the client after the update? I'm at work and haven't checked it myself, but it sounds on Chribba in his post just a few posts above yours that the mail is now fixed. Also if you check the patch notes it says something about an edit control being fixed. Maybe CCP Bella Bee is wrong about that update being delayed?
Edit: hm... apparently they have scratched that from the patch notes since I checked it last. But on the other hand they have instead fixed the overview duplicate bug
Originally by: CCP Bella Bee
Originally by: Obsidian Hawk I get this bug regularly too, I undock and it gives me double gates, double stations etc. From my guess it has something to do with brackets. I say this because i have 2 overview tabs, one with brackets and one without and when i switch between the two the problem corrects itself.
And this is what is technically known as useful information
It might be useful information, but the conclusion is incorrect The overview always fix itself if you force it to update itself, ie when you a) click the active tab b) switch between tabs c) minimze and maximize it again.
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Zagdul
Gallente Shadowed Command Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2010.10.28 11:54:00 -
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Edited by: Zagdul on 28/10/2010 11:56:10
Originally by: Daedalus II Edited by: Daedalus II on 28/10/2010 11:53:13 @ Zagdul and Lynn Deniera Have you actually checked the client after the update? I'm at work and haven't checked it myself, but it sounds on Chribba in his post just a few posts above yours that the mail is now fixed. Also if you check the patch notes it says something about an edit control being fixed. Maybe CCP Bella Bee is wrong about that update being delayed?
Edit: hm... apparently they have scratched that from the patch notes since I checked it last. But on the other hand they have instead fixed the overview duplicate bug
Originally by: CCP Bella Bee
Originally by: Obsidian Hawk I get this bug regularly too, I undock and it gives me double gates, double stations etc. From my guess it has something to do with brackets. I say this because i have 2 overview tabs, one with brackets and one without and when i switch between the two the problem corrects itself.
And this is what is technically known as useful information
It might be useful information, but the conclusion is incorrect The overview always fix itself if you force it to update itself, ie when you a) click the active tab b) switch between tabs c) minimze and maximize it again.
They removed the update from the patch.
Read the notes, it's been struck out.
EDIT: you caught it :p
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Dasola
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.10.28 12:03:00 -
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I see you still have character selection screens toon specifix text piled up with no brakes between letters...
Seriously ccp how hard can it be to make simple fixes since you can test them so easy before release... Clearly devs are not playing the game and Q&A is on winter holiday or something...
Well atleast wallet screens look readable again with properly layed in texts with spaces between letters...
So could we stop this, Patchy, Patchy, Patchy, Patchy, Patchy, Patchy, ..... thing? this start to remind sertain song im sure you nerds are very familiar with...
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Reno Shinra
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Posted - 2010.10.28 12:05:00 -
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Why dont we role it back to prior to the patches when it was working and stuff the apple player base !
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Dasola
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.10.28 12:07:00 -
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Originally by: Obsidian Hawk For those keeping score, we will have a ton of these as ccp is giving the UI code a complete overhaul and updating it. So quit your whining as they are trying to update their game to be in line with more modern code.
Lol, maybe they could have coded, tested it properly and release it with next expansion? I mean everyone knows expansions brake things ;)
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Karia Sur
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Posted - 2010.10.28 12:15:00 -
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Ive still got windows which open in default positions and not where you move them to.....I'm close to giving in with this now.
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CCP Bella Bee
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Posted - 2010.10.28 12:16:00 -
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Originally by: Dasola I see you still have character selection screens toon specifix text piled up with no brakes between letters...
Can you please file a bug report with a screen shot. And mention my name please to make sure that it gets to me. Thanks.
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Dasola
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.10.28 12:27:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Bella Bee
Originally by: Dasola I see you still have character selection screens toon specifix text piled up with no brakes between letters...
Can you please file a bug report with a screen shot. And mention my name please to make sure that it gets to me. Thanks.
Ok, filed: 102611
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Tathyn
Minmatar ADS Corp
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Posted - 2010.10.28 12:29:00 -
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Well I don't know if the double overview is fixed on my client yet as I'm not somewhere that docking and undocking is happening very often but ...
If the corporation window is open and the assets tab selected, the corporation window will jump in front of all other windows on jumping or docking/undocking. The personal assets window does not behave this way, and the corporation window stays put if on any other tab. Should I bother filing a bug report as the one I filed on 10.05 about the next issue hasn't even been looked at yet?
2nd issue (bug report filed 10.05 ... not filtered) - When filtering corporation transactions using the "buy" or "sell" filters, the results that show are from 9.29. This is actually a change, for the first two weeks they showed 9.22. Transactions appear properly when "both" is selected, and they show properly when filtered using "buy" or "sell" under the personal wallet transactions tab.
Cache has been cleared repeatedly, repair run twice.
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Zagdul
Gallente Shadowed Command Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2010.10.28 12:37:00 -
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Originally by: Dasola I see you still have character selection screens toon specifix text piled up with no brakes between letters...
Seriously ccp how hard can it be to make simple fixes since you can test them so easy before release... Clearly devs are not playing the game and Q&A is on winter holiday or something...
Well atleast wallet screens look readable again with properly layed in texts with spaces between letters...
So could we stop this, Patchy, Patchy, Patchy, Patchy, Patchy, Patchy, ..... thing? this start to remind sertain song im sure you nerds are very familiar with...
Would you mind posting a screenshot of what you're talking about cause I haven't seen what you're talking about.
Also, you really need to understand how big of a change and how much CCP has changed with the UI.
Imagine you've got a house that's 10 years old. Every 6 months since you've owned this house, you've put an addition on and built your house up, left, right, put a deck on in the back yard... Now, with these additions, the rooms you've added are all different sizes, their walls don't line up with the floors below them and it's become unstable.
Well, during all this expansion, you never upgraded your foundation. CCP has just added a new foundation and now needs to re-align the walls so the new additions are supported. This is a LOT of work.
With the fact that they released it in as much of a working order as they did, I'm surprised more wasn't broken.
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Zagdul
Gallente Shadowed Command Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2010.10.28 12:45:00 -
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for any devs who are still reading this...
up to 850MB and rising: http://www.fatalascension.com/uploaded/woahboy.png
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Derrick'DelBoy'Tr0tter
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Posted - 2010.10.28 13:08:00 -
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Windows still not stacking correctly, Bought stuff from market, stuff i bought not showing on assets window. Yet another fail patch.
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Dasola
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.10.28 13:12:00 -
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Originally by: Zagdul
Imagine you've got a house that's 10 years old. Every 6 months since you've owned this house, you've put an addition on and built your house up, left, right, put a deck on in the back yard... Now, with these additions, the rooms you've added are all different sizes, their walls don't line up with the floors below them and it's become unstable.
Well, during all this expansion, you never upgraded your foundation. CCP has just added a new foundation and now needs to re-align the walls so the new additions are supported. This is a LOT of work.
With the fact that they released it in as much of a working order as they did, I'm surprised more wasn't broken.
Well i definetly would not upgrade/change my house without carefully planning or use neibourhood kids to test out modifications for safety.
Thats what it looks like ccp is doing now. Makeing patches, no planning, no testing, just hammer it away in maybe they get it right at some point.
And since foundation is not updated on these patches, theres really no reason why were having so damn many patches.... How the hell hard can it be to do it right. Plan it, code it, hammer it and see if it brakes (thats why we have test server) and when there reasonable reason to expect patch not brakeup things, release it to live server.
Like someone sayd were paying to do ccp's QA work. And thats honestly sucks. My opinion im paying cash to ccp so they maintain, expand and do proper QA work on their product. But i quess all our money is diverted to dust514(witch im not buing since dont have console) and incarna (eyecandy or can we actually go and backstab someone?). I pay my account¦s for space fightings, not ballroom danceing.
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Zygoma Alaskana
Caldari Red Dwarf Mining Corporation space weaponry and trade
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Posted - 2010.10.28 13:18:00 -
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This latest patch is actually to add what the programmers call "perverse functionality" to Incursion. What it will do, after Incursion is foisted upon us, is make us all appear as members of an incursion force as soon as we undock. We will then have the same apparent threat level as a Grand Chief Slepinir pilot, even to our corpmates. As a side bonus, our voices will be muted in Eve Voice, Ventrilo, and TeamSpeak3, as well as outgoing text messages in Corp and Alliance chat, so we won't be able to defend ourselves. This will occur quasi-randomly, meaning only about 8 out of every 10 log-ins that we make. In the meantime, until Incursion is released, the patch is being tested by randomly reassigning the races against which ECM jammers work, setting all Signal Amplifier strengths to zero, and making all Warp Disruptors work with +4 strength and all Warp Scramblers at +8 strength. Warp Core Stabilizers are being nerfed to 0.25 strength. /parody mode OFF Wow, I thought that was pretty creative for having just awakened and read the patch notes :D Fly safe or, if you're overwhelmed by all the changes that don't seem to work like I am, just stay docked up ;) -- Zyg --
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CCP Bella Bee
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Posted - 2010.10.28 13:19:00 -
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Originally by: Dasola
Originally by: CCP Bella Bee
Originally by: Dasola I see you still have character selection screens toon specifix text piled up with no brakes between letters...
Can you please file a bug report with a screen shot. And mention my name please to make sure that it gets to me. Thanks.
Ok, filed: 102611
Thanks, I see now what you were talking about. It seems to affect only some resolutions, I will follow up on this.
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Mortis Betruger
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Posted - 2010.10.28 13:33:00 -
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I did not download the new patch because everything was alright now my windows are all over the f... ..place and icons to big so now i cant find how to down load this new patch option is gone wtf wtf
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Karia Sur
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Posted - 2010.10.28 13:38:00 -
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Originally by: Mortis Betruger I did not download the new patch because everything was alright now my windows are all over the f... ..place and icons to big so now i cant find how to down load this new patch option is gone wtf wtf
because you declined to d/l it, it deleted any previous update that you had installed.
Should be under ESC / general settings.
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CCP Bella Bee
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Posted - 2010.10.28 13:42:00 -
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Originally by: Tathyn Well I don't know if the double overview is fixed on my client yet as I'm not somewhere that docking and undocking is happening very often but ...
If the corporation window is open and the assets tab selected, the corporation window will jump in front of all other windows on jumping or docking/undocking. The personal assets window does not behave this way, and the corporation window stays put if on any other tab. Should I bother filing a bug report as the one I filed on 10.05 about the next issue hasn't even been looked at yet?
2nd issue (bug report filed 10.05 ... not filtered) - When filtering corporation transactions using the "buy" or "sell" filters, the results that show are from 9.29. This is actually a change, for the first two weeks they showed 9.22. Transactions appear properly when "both" is selected, and they show properly when filtered using "buy" or "sell" under the personal wallet transactions tab.
Cache has been cleared repeatedly, repair run twice.
The attention seeking behavior of the corporation window has been confirmed to be a pre-existing issue (from before Tyrannis 1.1), it will be sent to counselling sessions and hopefully learn to behave more appropriately in the future.
I'll follow up on the transaction issue, even though the bug report shows up as unfiltered it doesn't necessarily mean it hasn't been looked at, but I'll make sure.
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Ejit
Amarr The Ascension
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Posted - 2010.10.28 13:48:00 -
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After applying the patch it now seems that my cargohold is no longer displaying items correctly. After completing a mission, I looted and salvaged. Loot appeared fine, but was surprised at zero salvage. When I docked, still with my cargo open. The loot disappeared and was replaced with the salvage instead. Very odd bug.
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Feir Cusat
Cryptonym Sleepers Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2010.10.28 14:03:00 -
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Well this patch broke my client. Looks like it is pettition time again.
Once I loaded the patch eve loaded in window mode. I tried getting it back to full frame every way I know how and still nothing....
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Rocky Deadshot
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Posted - 2010.10.28 14:10:00 -
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umm i cant download the patch via the client or a browser on 2 different machines using different net connections.
the browser just comes back with some error, and my client starts downloading really slow (like took 5 mins to get like .5% read) my desktop is a highly advanced piece of machine and normally doesnt mind playing 2 eve's youtubes, countless pdfs and other things while i do hw... but for some reason i'm having issues getting this patch.
both net connections are good, i can fly around the internet all i want, but idk
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IMO GeorgeCarlin
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Posted - 2010.10.28 14:13:00 -
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Originally by: Ejit
Originally by: DragonHelm III
Please for the love of god stop releasing optional patches. All they are doing is making the last farcickle patch worse.
That's an interesting way of spelling Farcical.
I'll give him points for trying and not falling back to profanity. While I myself use quite a bit of it, I was told when I was a young Corporal that use of profanity is the sign of a weak mind.
As for the patch....Everyone else has said it already.
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Erinni Tisifone
Lupi di Wotan Indomita Classis
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Posted - 2010.10.28 14:42:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Spitfire Tranquility is now open for business.
yes, looking at the thread of the new bugs introduced with the latest patch...YOU got some business with this patch ....that's getting ridiculous.
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Sh'ian
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Posted - 2010.10.28 16:03:00 -
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Gotta love the veiled 'Well if you bugtested properly, we wouldn't be in this mess' replies from CCP
How about you get proper beta testers to test stuff on Sisi (you know, that thing you have, the test server..), instead of expecting your paying customers to do it in the time they pay to play a game?
We're not your personal bugtesting team!! If people wish to do this, fair enough, but I know I don't pay ú45 a month to sit and enter bugreports.
I don't care how easy it is to do either
(Imagine buying a car and it breaking down all the time. You ring the garage, only for them to say well, i's a complicated machine, and we won't know what faults are with every specific scenario till we send them all out and our customers start phoning in saying the steering wheel comes off as you drive....pfft..)
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Barakkus
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Posted - 2010.10.28 16:09:00 -
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My chat windows were in the wrong order when I patched so I unpinned the whole stack and seperated the windows to restack them in the order I usually use. Once seperated and moved the windows became stuck while they were still unpinned. You have to pin, then unpin the windows to make them moveable again.
Originally by: captain foivos Who would recruit someone named Barakkus?
Wait a minute...
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Dana Dawn
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Posted - 2010.10.28 16:09:00 -
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I've made a bug report about pressing backspace when at the start of line on every multi line text field, which has been a bug since the first optional patch for the new UI backend.
Bug: 102249
I hope you can take a look at it.
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Dana Dawn
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Posted - 2010.10.28 16:20:00 -
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Since the UI patch I incidentally also see the double entries in the overview after undocking. I am not sure if I have ever seen it during a jump, but I am sure it sometimes happens after an undock.
Each item in the overview is doubled. When I select one of a double item in the overview both show as selected, so the overview is still functioning in this state. I have not only tried to select the top item, I have also done it somewhere in the middle to select a gate to warp to it.
Minimizing the overview by double clicking on the top part of the window, then double clicking it again to show the contents of the window again resets the overview to a normal state.
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Brandrsun
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.10.28 16:25:00 -
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weird i had no issue with the previous patch nor the one before that. Is this an OS specivic issue ( only people on vista/xp experience issues ) or is it across the board and I simply missed the bugs?
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Rocky Deadshot
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Posted - 2010.10.28 16:30:00 -
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i tried this morning about an hour after dt to dl the patch on a windows 7 pc... it was downloading extremely slow and basically stopped at .5%. later i tried downloading on my net book i use to update skills... same issue (although different op (xp this time)) and also on a different connection.
if i click no will anything adverse happen for not dling the "optional patch"
any help would be nice, i didnt realize ccp was patching today so i didnt get a 14day skill in before DT, and i only have a couple hrs till my que is empty
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