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Disembodied Torso
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Posted - 2010.10.31 02:23:00 -
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Problem: Too many people are degrading these great forums by using numerous characters to post in the same thread, skewing arguments or having Devil's Advocate debates with themselves, much to the chagrin of other participants in the debate. It's nonconstructive and in recent years has become more than just a quaint idiosyncrasy practiced by certain Eve e-celebrities.
Solution: Remove the ability to post with more than one character on an account in a single thread.
To wit: I post this proposal thread with this character, a faceless alt I've just created. I could then use two other characters on this same account to support the idea or create drama. Like a lot of players, I have two accounts. I could theoretically then load this argument by using 6 characters to post supportive arguments, skewing everything.
If this proposal were enacted I would have the amount of sockpuppet posting available to me reduced by 67%, promoting by necessity more thoughtful responses to whatever it is I am talking about.
TL;DR: You should be able to post with your main, or post with an alt - but not both in the same thread from one account. Quality ^, crap, quantity v.
Thank you.
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Lykouleon
Trust Doesn't Rust
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Posted - 2010.10.31 06:59:00 -
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People who don't post with their mains need to grow a pair anyway
Quote: Lord Makk > Be warned, Lykouleon is akin to the love-child of a Goon and a Maru'Kage, with just a touch of Butter Dog for bitterness
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Rhok Relztem
CGMA Synergist Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.10.31 09:53:00 -
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+1
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Maxsim Goratiev
Imperial Tau Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.10.31 10:21:00 -
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Originally by: Lykouleon People who don't post with their mains need to grow a pair anyway
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Bhattran
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Posted - 2010.10.31 10:23:00 -
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Supported, limiting a thread to a single response from a 'character' on any account makes sense and doesn't hurt anyone by suppressing their options to make themselves heard.
Only possible issues are people who mistakenly post as a character they didn't intend to and 'out' themselves but such things can happen regardless of a requirement like this. If a person is using alts to mask their identity they should put forth the effort to choose the correct one for whatever argument/post/idea/etc they intend to submit.
--Submit your bug reports via mental telepathy this will streamline CCP ignoring them.-- |
Alara IonStorm
Agent-Orange
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Posted - 2010.10.31 11:27:00 -
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Your Main Post With It
+1 for 1 per thread.
-- I am now on a Crusade to Fix the Omen!
For Great Justice!
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JcJet
Pretenders Inc Tower of Dark Alliance
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Posted - 2010.10.31 13:23:00 -
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+1 but anyway, there is not much people with just one account... ---
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Anna Lifera
Garoun Investment Bank
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Posted - 2010.10.31 15:19:00 -
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--- You're an asset to the community Anna. Thank you for your clear concise remarks. - Draek |
Arkanor
Gallente Ixion Defence Systems
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Posted - 2010.10.31 17:01:00 -
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Originally by: JcJet +1 but anyway, there is not much people with just one account...
I have one account, two characters on it are my "mains" in different respects...
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Barney Killer
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Posted - 2010.10.31 19:12:00 -
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As an alt, I support this message |
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Fournone
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Posted - 2010.10.31 21:45:00 -
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Originally by: Lykouleon People who don't post with their mains need to grow a pair anyway
QFT
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Double Dee
Perkone
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Posted - 2010.10.31 21:48:00 -
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ahh, this fail thread again. always some bitter person who was too thin skinned and was made fun of by someones alt. grow up people.
/not supported.
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PC l0adletter
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Posted - 2010.10.31 21:55:00 -
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Originally by: Double Dee ahh, this fail thread again. always some bitter person who was too thin skinned and was made fun of by someones alt. grow up people.
/not supported.
If Cromo Effect is against it, then it must be a good idea.
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Missus Malaprop
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Posted - 2010.10.31 22:01:00 -
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Sounds Reasonable.
Poasting w/ alt.
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Antihrist Pripravnik
4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.11.01 00:58:00 -
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It won't fix anything.
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Caila Solarstorm
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2010.11.01 04:22:00 -
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Edited by: Caila Solarstorm on 01/11/2010 04:24:24
Originally by: Antihrist Pripravnik It won't fix anything.
As a same account hauler Alt of Alara I aprove this message!
Seriously anything will help at this point, this should not be allowed. but here I am re-supporting a cause!
-- I fly Rifters and tackle people! |
Xorv
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Posted - 2010.11.01 08:13:00 -
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Pointless Idea without some way of also preventing people doing the same thing over multiple accounts.
Besides in serious discussions, rare they may be here, reasoned good arguments remain reasoned good arguments whether posted by a "main" or an "alt", and posting for or against such an argument with a dozen alts doesn't change a good argument to a bad one, or a bad one to a good one.
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BloodySpade
ANZAC ALLIANCE IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.11.01 10:27:00 -
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+1
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Selinate
Wardens of the Void
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Posted - 2010.11.01 14:35:00 -
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Edited by: Selinate on 01/11/2010 14:41:23
Well, the forums are already crap because of the people who post in them. I don't see how this would hurt (it can only get better from here), so I support it.
Only, make sure that you only implement this in sections of the forum that have debates. I.E. leave character bazaar, recruitment, etc. open to alts also.
EDIT: I would also make it so that anyone who posts off topic or something that doesn't add anything to the discussion at all (i.e. a random "this is a pointless thread" or "this is in the wrong section" and simply ending with that) should be deleted, and the account be warned.
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Mashie Saldana
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2010.11.01 16:56:00 -
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Just limit it so only the char with most SP on the account can post, alt posting fixed.
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Sepheir Sepheron
Legion..
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Posted - 2010.11.01 17:04:00 -
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Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2010.11.01 17:21:00 -
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Originally by: Mashie Saldana Just limit it so only the char with most SP on the account can post, alt posting fixed.
So for example if Verone got a character on his account with more sp than him, Verone would never be able to post on the eve-o forums again? More sp does not equate to main character.
As I always say with this argument, if I can use an alt ingame to spy/scout/steal/scam (the four S's of great justice) then I should be able to use an alt to post as well. Either get rid of all alts or allow them all, getting emo over an alt that got you riled up on the eve-o forums is pathetic. HTFU. - It's not "Play through a pre-set story, become stronger, do endgame". Gameplay is open ended, and you make your own story. Unless you're too afraid of 'pvp grief' to do anything relevant |
Bhattran
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Posted - 2010.11.01 18:03:00 -
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Originally by: Disembodied Torso Problem: Too many people are degrading these great forums by using numerous characters to post in the same thread, skewing arguments or having Devil's Advocate debates with themselves, much to the chagrin of other participants in the debate. It's nonconstructive and in recent years has become more than just a quaint idiosyncrasy practiced by certain Eve e-celebrities.
Solution: Remove the ability to post with more than one character on an account in a single thread.
To wit: I post this proposal thread with this character, a faceless alt I've just created. I could then use two other characters on this same account to support the idea or create drama. Like a lot of players, I have two accounts. I could theoretically then load this argument by using 6 characters to post supportive arguments, skewing everything.
If this proposal were enacted I would have the amount of sockpuppet posting available to me reduced by 67%, promoting by necessity more thoughtful responses to whatever it is I am talking about.
TL;DR: You should be able to post with your main, or post with an alt - but not both in the same thread from one account. Quality ^, crap, quantity v.
Thank you.
People should read the proposal it isn't about forcing the use of a main character by SP or age or anything it is about limiting responses to a THREAD to ONE character per account, FFS there is Even a TLDR version.
You want to force 'mains' to post make your own proposal and I will gladly rant at you with how you are wrong and ignorant of why people don't want to be forced to do that.
--Submit your bug reports via mental telepathy this will streamline CCP ignoring them.-- |
Mashie Saldana
Minmatar Veto Corp
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Posted - 2010.11.01 19:32:00 -
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Originally by: Bhattran People should read the proposal it isn't about forcing the use of a main character by SP or age or anything it is about limiting responses to a THREAD to ONE character per account, FFS there is Even a TLDR version.
I'm just pushing it to the limit to show what a stupid idea this is.
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Selinate
Amarr Wardens of the Void
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Posted - 2010.11.01 20:10:00 -
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Originally by: Mashie Saldana
I'm just pushing it to the limit to show what a stupid person I am.
fixed.
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Alara IonStorm
Agent-Orange
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Posted - 2010.11.01 20:11:00 -
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Originally by: Mashie Saldana I'm just pushing it to the limit to show what a stupid idea this is.
So you are taking an idea you don't like and suggesting things you or the OP and no one else in thread wants to show that ????.
If you don't agree with the idea tell people why instead of coming up with magical not suggested scenario to show how a different idea that has nothing to do with this will not work.
-- I am now on a Crusade to Fix the Omen!
For Great Justice!
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Leksi Bar'zuk
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Posted - 2010.11.01 22:58:00 -
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I've got six accounts to troll from, so sure, go for it.
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De'Veldrin
Minmatar Green-Core The Obsidian Legion
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Posted - 2010.11.01 23:31:00 -
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Originally by: Selinate
EDIT: I would also make it so that anyone who posts off topic or something that doesn't add anything to the discussion at all (i.e. a random "this is a pointless thread" or "this is in the wrong section" and simply ending with that) should be deleted, and the account be warned.
Originally by: Selinate
Originally by: Mashie Saldana
I'm just pushing it to the limit to show what a stupid person I am.
fixed.
The irony that exudes from you is so strong you could bottle it. --Vel
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Selinate
Amarr Wardens of the Void
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Posted - 2010.11.02 00:15:00 -
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Originally by: De'Veldrin
Originally by: Selinate
EDIT: I would also make it so that anyone who posts off topic or something that doesn't add anything to the discussion at all (i.e. a random "this is a pointless thread" or "this is in the wrong section" and simply ending with that) should be deleted, and the account be warned.
Originally by: Selinate
Originally by: Mashie Saldana
I'm just pushing it to the limit to show what a stupid person I am.
fixed.
The irony that exudes from you is so strong you could bottle it.
So if they make it so that that happens, I'll stop posting in reply to off-topic replies. Until they do, I'll keep on havin mah fun....
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Disembodied Torso
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Posted - 2010.11.02 13:02:00 -
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I wonder if I can support my own Proposal?
Thanks for all the support so far. I will clarify something so that my stance is clear as there seems to be some confusion about exactly what I intend with this Proposal.
This Proposal isn't meant to remove someone's ability to troll entirely - it is designed to reduce the amount of trolling done by individuals. The person above who mentions having 6 accounts is a good example of the problem.
At the moment this person can post with 18 characters in a single thread - and probably does - which is just insane.
Something needs to be done about this. My idea is simple, elegant, and has can have no possible opposition apart from that of people who wish to protect their multiple character in-thread trolling.
Please, CCP. Save our forums.
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