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Akita T
Caldari
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2010.11.06 23:53:00 -
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Excrement storm about to hit the fan. See EGD for details.
Would love to contribute to the clustershag directly, but I'm out of liquid ISK, don't feel like liquidating too much stuff because I'd crash those markets I have a hand in, and not enough time to start a bond to gather the necessary funds.
Feel free to donate me back a portion of the profits after you make them.
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Akita T
Caldari
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2010.11.07 00:01:00 -
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P.S. It's likely to only be a two or maybe three week spike, so make sure to get out of it before it crashes.
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OPX2
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Posted - 2010.11.07 00:10:00 -
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PLEX has become a necessity rather than a luxury.
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Breaker77
Gallente
Reclamation Industries
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Posted - 2010.11.07 00:20:00 -
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Holy **** Akita!! This is indeed going to spire PLEXes upward.
Let the lemmings commence!
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Gizan
Hounds Of War
Talos Coalition
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Posted - 2010.11.07 00:24:00 -
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Edited by: Gizan on 07/11/2010 00:30:17
plex's are already up 4.5m
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Cobalt Sixty
Caldari
Invictus Australis
BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2010.11.07 00:30:00 -
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I'm guessing CCP didn't do a merry song and dance about the implementation so as to let the market run its natural course ... or someone dropped the ball, whichever.
I don't quite see the point of a portrait swap when we're (supposedly) so close to the new character creation system, but I won't complain if it helps to pull the price up, Up, UP!
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Eto LabOne
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Posted - 2010.11.07 02:14:00 -
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You guys are gonna wish you didnt push the price of plex up so high.
I know many people who de-sub'd alts. I myself have gone down 1 account.
That is less ships being bought becuase its just to much farming to keep alt accounts running.
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Machete Visor
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Posted - 2010.11.07 02:50:00 -
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 Originally by: Eto LabOne
You guys are gonna wish you didnt push the price of plex up so high.
I know many people who de-sub'd alts. I myself have gone down 1 account.
That is less ships being bought becuase its just to much farming to keep alt accounts running.
# of players online tells a different story. Pretty steady over time.
Ship use, I would think, would be more highly correlated to players flying around as opposed to # of accounts active.
server usage
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Eto LabOne
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Posted - 2010.11.07 02:54:00 -
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Yeah well until now they havent offered other things for plex.
We will see the subscription rates 6 months from now
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ForumWarrior
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Posted - 2010.11.07 03:16:00 -
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Bought 65 earlier today. Gigantic "DOUBLE BIRD SALUTE" for douching up the forums by pointing the ones too stupid to catch it at it.
Granted, they'd have caught it on their own shortly.
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Ave Volta
Red Frog Investments
Blue Sky Consortium
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Posted - 2010.11.07 03:35:00 -
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Originally by: ForumWarrior
Bought 65 earlier today. Gigantic "DOUBLE BIRD SALUTE" for douching up the forums by pointing the ones too stupid to catch it at it.
Granted, they'd have caught it on their own shortly.
Wouldn't this be good for you since you already bought in and more speculation would drive up the price?
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ForumWarrior
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Posted - 2010.11.07 03:37:00 -
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Originally by: Ave Volta
Wouldn't this be good for you since you already bought in and more speculation would drive up the price?
It would be good when I posted it myself, tomorrow, after liquidating some junk to buy in further :p
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Zia Pow
Krazy Banana
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Posted - 2010.11.07 03:37:00 -
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1st round ends Nov 14th..but the full time session starts Dec 1st.
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Tasko Pal
Aliastra
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Posted - 2010.11.07 04:26:00 -
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Originally by: ForumWarrior
Bought 65 earlier today. Gigantic "DOUBLE BIRD SALUTE" for douching up the forums by pointing the ones too stupid to catch it at it.
Granted, they'd have caught it on their own shortly.
Akita T's desire to unload the GTC thing before November 14 outweighs the significant concern he/she no doubt has for your financial interests.
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satane
Amarr
The Contracteere
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Posted - 2010.11.07 10:19:00 -
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bought 20 lets if i can make some money of the market instead of contracts for a change thanks akita T,
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Mara Rinn
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Posted - 2010.11.07 10:26:00 -
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Originally by: Eto LabOne
Yeah well until now they havent offered other things for plex.
PLEX for Fan Fest.
Fan Fest tickets go on sale soon.
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ZeJesus
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Posted - 2010.11.07 11:17:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
Excrement storm about to hit the fan: I'm desperately trying to unload a huge pile of PLEX. Please buy and buy fast.
Fixed
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Akita T
Caldari
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2010.11.07 11:59:00 -
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Originally by: ZeJesus
I'm an idiot who can't think much by himself, but I still consider making baseless and inaccurate "fixed!" posts
Hey, look at that, I fixed yours better.
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Dan Grobag
Caldari
French Empire Squad
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Posted - 2010.11.07 12:27:00 -
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Damn it's bubbling very hard.
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Xanaan Zenithdul
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Posted - 2010.11.07 12:39:00 -
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Originally by: Eto LabOne
You guys are gonna wish you didnt push the price of plex up so high.
I know many people who de-sub'd alts. I myself have gone down 1 account.
That is less ships being bought becuase its just to much farming to keep alt accounts running.
How about spending your real life time in real job and then just paying your account instead of wasting your life on farming ISK so you could waste your life in internetspaceshipgame? 
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Lillith Starfire
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Posted - 2010.11.07 14:16:00 -
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Originally by: Xanaan Zenithdul
Originally by: Eto LabOne
You guys are gonna wish you didnt push the price of plex up so high.
I know many people who de-sub'd alts. I myself have gone down 1 account.
That is less ships being bought becuase its just to much farming to keep alt accounts running.
How about spending your real life time in real job and then just paying your account instead of wasting your life on farming ISK so you could waste your life in internetspaceshipgame?
How about spending your rea... ah screw it. NO U!
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Dariah Stardweller
Gallente
NO U111 Enterprises
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Posted - 2010.11.07 14:56:00 -
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Originally by: Xanaan Zenithdul
Originally by: Eto LabOne
You guys are gonna wish you didnt push the price of plex up so high.
I know many people who de-sub'd alts. I myself have gone down 1 account.
That is less ships being bought becuase its just to much farming to keep alt accounts running.
How about spending your real life time in real job and then just paying your account instead of wasting your life on farming ISK so you could waste your life in internetspaceshipgame?
Wait, who's gonna buy the PLEX then? 
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Thrasymachus TheSophist
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Posted - 2010.11.07 16:14:00 -
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I agree with the theoretical observation that PLEX prices SHOULD rise given these changes. Basic supply/demand (assuming supply is not being tinkered with).
But I'm sitting in JITA looking at the graphs and .... I'm not seeing anything really remarkable. 370mill/Plex. It was over 380mill mid October ...
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Raid'En
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Posted - 2010.11.07 16:42:00 -
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Originally by: Thrasymachus TheSophist
I'm not seeing anything really remarkable
well it's already +6% in about 18hours.
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corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
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Posted - 2010.11.07 16:49:00 -
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Originally by: Thrasymachus TheSophist
I agree with the theoretical observation that PLEX prices SHOULD rise given these changes. Basic supply/demand (assuming supply is not being tinkered with).
But I'm sitting in JITA looking at the graphs and .... I'm not seeing anything really remarkable. 370mill/Plex. It was over 380mill mid October ...
Try looking at the actual prices instead of the graph. They're at 379.25 right now, up about 29 million from prior to this thread going up yesterday.
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Cryptkiller
Minmatar
Ebola Allstars
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Posted - 2010.11.07 16:52:00 -
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Originally by: corestwo
Originally by: Thrasymachus TheSophist
I agree with the theoretical observation that PLEX prices SHOULD rise given these changes. Basic supply/demand (assuming supply is not being tinkered with).
But I'm sitting in JITA looking at the graphs and .... I'm not seeing anything really remarkable. 370mill/Plex. It was over 380mill mid October ...
Try looking at the actual prices instead of the graph. They're at 379.25 right now, up about 29 million from prior to this thread going up yesterday.
Prices in the Timecode Bazaar have jumped in similar fashion...
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Dariah Stardweller
Gallente
NO U111 Enterprises
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Posted - 2010.11.07 16:59:00 -
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Wondering how sunday night is going to affect the prices.
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volhar
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Posted - 2010.11.07 17:02:00 -
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only a couple hundred left on the market at all... pretty damn low supply... should have bought more than the 17 I did, looks like we're in for a wild ride over the next few days/weeks (and then an inevitable crash)
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corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
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Posted - 2010.11.07 17:05:00 -
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Originally by: Dariah Stardweller
Wondering how sunday night is going to affect the prices.
Well saturday night didn't do jack squat...
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Machete Visor
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Posted - 2010.11.07 18:50:00 -
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i guess the question is, when does plex price reach parity with ISK per SP on the character bazaar.
I think Akita is guessing 450-500m (my guess). I've looked at the character bazaar pretty extensively and from what I can see, the ISK per SP is highly variable based on the training plan. Could support 600M+ easily based on some of my calcs.
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Raid'En
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Posted - 2010.11.07 19:04:00 -
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Edited by: Raid''En on 07/11/2010 19:05:50
characters bzarr price depend on at least 2 others factors than SP :
* demand on low SP chars (learning char, hulk...), where price are highter than normal
* price of some expensives skills (capitals ships mostly)
by the way you saw ?
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Brian Ballsack
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Posted - 2010.11.07 19:48:00 -
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So whats the score with the prices atm ?
I cant get on to check just yet, im guessing they are back down again.
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volhar
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Posted - 2010.11.07 20:07:00 -
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371 sell atm, the real test will be the week
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Rasz Lin
Caldari
Racketeers
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Posted - 2010.11.07 22:41:00 -
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dropped to 359-362 jita sell when i was logging off, I was about to post here that bubble just popped, but forgot :)
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Rikki Sals
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.11.07 22:50:00 -
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AKITA T BRINGS THE RAIN!
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Grozen
Caldari
Titan Core
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Posted - 2010.11.07 23:00:00 -
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I know someone with about 800 plex outside of the market atm, theres atleast 200 on the market right maybe if you rethink your strategy it would be best for everyone.You are not taking greed into account and trust me theres alot of it in eve.
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Mike TheMiner
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Posted - 2010.11.07 23:14:00 -
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Back to below normal now, i wonder how many he had to get rid of ?
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Illectroculus Defined
Chooch Inc.
Twilight Federation
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Posted - 2010.11.07 23:18:00 -
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GIvben the services available we should be aware that there's likely going to be some strong time dependent factors at play:
The Power Of Two offer ends in a week, so there'll be some higher demand for PLEX driven by the deadline.
Then once those Power of 2 accounts start to convert to a conventional subscription there'll be an uptick in demand as pilots transfer the toons to other accounts, either their main or perhaps simply to sell them off.
Finally, the portrait swap isn't going to see any demand for the next couple of months simply because Incursion will make everyone change their portraits anyway.
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Akita T
Caldari
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2010.11.07 23:26:00 -
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Originally by: Mike TheMiner
Back to below normal now, i wonder how many he had to get rid of ?
Precisely zero.
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Vilgan Mazran
Aperture Harmonics
K162
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Posted - 2010.11.07 23:27:00 -
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Akita's advice was reasonable imo. I think he forgot to account for the fact that a LOT of people bought into plex assuming plex for remap would happen though. The downward pressure from people realizing its not going to happen is a lot more relevant than the temporary upward blip from plex from all the other account related stuff they've gone with instead. Oh well, its not like its going to totally collapse so losing 10% or whatever is hardly a big deal.
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Machete Visor
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Posted - 2010.11.07 23:35:00 -
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Originally by: Illectroculus Defined
GIvben the services available we should be aware that there's likely going to be some strong time dependent factors at play:
The Power Of Two offer ends in a week, so there'll be some higher demand for PLEX driven by the deadline.
Then once those Power of 2 accounts start to convert to a conventional subscription there'll be an uptick in demand as pilots transfer the toons to other accounts, either their main or perhaps simply to sell them off.
Finally, the portrait swap isn't going to see any demand for the next couple of months simply because Incursion will make everyone change their portraits anyway.
this + plex for remaps.
Making ISK off selling chars isn't as easy to figure out as some of the other gimmes that have been out there (ex, NPC goods before PI).
low end sp char 1.8B - 2.5B (maybe more, maybe less, highly variable)
3 month training - ~5.5M SP
110M for implants (+4s)
25-50M for SB
solve for plex value.
A longer training time, more specialized character, more expensive implants, skill books etc, may yield diff results.
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Akita T
Caldari
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2010.11.07 23:38:00 -
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Meh, price level seldom ever moves linearly.
Bumps in both upwards and downwards trend are to be always expected.
There was a minor downwards trend since the top of the PLEX-for-remap speculation-driven peak, true.
However, for the entire next week, the demand is real, for stuff you have to use now or lose the occasion to do it for another half year or so (3x PLEX for power of two account). So, for this week, the overall trend should be upwards.
The demand for character transfer purposes (2x PLEX per transfer) should remain in play from now on constantly.
Plus, whenever Incursion actually hits (no idea if or how much it will be delayed) there will be another minor spike when PLEX-for-remap demand starts kicking in.
The only real question is, where will it all settle due to those factors a while after Incursion hits, higher than the pre-patch speculation-driven level a couple of weeks ago, or lower ?
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Lederstrumpf
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Posted - 2010.11.08 03:04:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
whenever Incursion actually hits (no idea if or how much it will be delayed) there will be another minor spike when PLEX-for-remap demand starts kicking in
Don't you expect more newbie players to get attracted by CCP Incursion marketing efforts?
Don't you expect them to feed PLEX into the system?
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Akita T
Caldari
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2010.11.08 03:34:00 -
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Originally by: Lederstrumpf
Don't you expect more newbie players to get attracted by CCP Incursion marketing efforts?
Not really. Not for Incursion.
Incarna, though, yeah.
But that's half a year away at least.
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enterprisePSI
Gallente
Unimatrix 0.1
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Posted - 2010.11.08 08:33:00 -
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Akita T your my hero  Made 1.86bil 
Tears, or the titan dies!
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Sturmwolke
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Posted - 2010.11.08 09:52:00 -
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Prices seem to be spooling down regardless and there seem to be some effort at propping it up. A week is barely time enough for speculators to get rid of their stocks and the peak just passed. Gambling for another peak? Not likely imo, with an expansion just around the corner. |
oogs
Gallente
Ex Coelis
The Bantam Menace
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Posted - 2010.11.08 14:23:00 -
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Edited by: oogs on 08/11/2010 14:23:50
This works.
SS of GM reply
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Raid'En
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Posted - 2010.11.08 19:44:00 -
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got a new pick at the same price as yerterday some hours ago and i sold half my stock.
waiting a bit more to see how the rest will move
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Rasz Lin
Caldari
Racketeers
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Posted - 2010.11.08 21:18:00 -
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got another idea
get new account = 3x plex
move your main to that account = 2 plex
you get one month free IF you are using PLEXes for your main
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Taram Caldar
Royal Black Watch Highlanders
Warped Aggression
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Posted - 2010.11.08 23:02:00 -
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Personally I just pay for my alt account with money. Prices spiraling out of control convinced me to stop paying with GTC's back when they were under 400mil for a GTC... let alone a damn plex. Given the amt of time required to make 400 million isk vs the time it takes me to make $15 it's colossally stupid to pay for the game with plex/gtc's anymore.
I prefer to spend my time in game doing things I enjoy rather than grinding for isk to pay for the game with. That said, for those speculating on the plex market.... more power to ya.
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Breaker77
Gallente
Reclamation Industries
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Posted - 2010.11.08 23:46:00 -
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Originally by: Taram Caldar
Given the amt of time required to make 400 million isk vs the time it takes me to make $15 it's colossally stupid to pay for the game with plex/gtc's anymore.
This really. I have yet to make the almost 400 mil per hour in game compared to $15 IRL.
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I prefer to spend my time in game doing things I enjoy rather than grinding for isk to pay for the game with.
WAIT!! People actually play EVE?? Now I feel bad for using it as a glorified IRC client 
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Akita T
Caldari
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2010.11.09 00:11:00 -
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Edited by: Akita T on 09/11/2010 00:13:41
Originally by: Taram Caldar
That said, for those speculating on the plex market.... more power to ya.
Originally by: oogs
This works. SS of GM reply
Hey, now you got confirmation in the forums too :
Originally by: CCP Zinfandel
Hello all,
Yes, it's a real offer. No, it wasn't planned this way in advance. It was a good idea half way through the Power of 2 offer. "You know, some folks may not have extra money lying around in RL but they do have lots of wealth in-game. I'll bet some of them might go for this." And then we just quickly put together an offer.
The development team who builds offers works in planned two-week sprints so we can't just walk in and ask them for a "buy with PLEX" button. But we got the Customer Service GMs to agree to help out so that's why it's by petition.
The character transfer and the portrait swap have been in planning and on a list for a long, long time. Since before I came to CCP, I'm pretty sure.
What's the next thing to be available for purchase by PLEX? That's easy. Fanfest tickets will be available for sale very soon and PLEX will be one of the options.
We are basically adding options wherever we can. Options are a good thing.
Fly safe,
Zin
Let me repeat that...
"Fanfest tickets will be available for sale very soon and PLEX will be one of the options."
They've done the same thing for last fanfest, so no surprises there, the only mild news is when tickets will start being sold
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Kesshisan
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.11.09 05:18:00 -
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Originally by: Xanaan Zenithdul
How about spending your real life time in real job and then just paying your account instead of wasting your life on farming ISK so you could waste your life in internetspaceshipgame?
I'm one of those weird people that enjoy spending time making money. I actually have fun playing the market, watching for trends, and profiting on it. Just like some people enjoy shooting, some people enjoy scamming, some people enjoy spinning and some people enjoy verbs which start with letters other than s. I, for some reason, enjoy selling.
I also enjoy manufacturing, but I think I enjoy selling my final product for a fair price more than the actual manufacturing process. And while I am still new, and my total net worth isn't even more than a few billion isk, my daily profit is growing while my in-game trade time remains low. If I can continue the profit trend I've been experiencing, eventually I will be at the point where I can sneeze and wipe my nose with a PLEX and still only be spending 10-20 minutes a day on my trade alt.
You have fun blowing up people/being blown up by people while I have fun selling things to those being blown up. We both define "fun" differently, and my "fun" just so happens to enable me to buy PLEX with ingame cash while yours almost requires you to buy PLEX with real life cash.
It seems as if the two careers are more intertwined that your realize, as if people like me didn't exist, your RL for PLEX wouldn't be nearly as profitable. So I say to you good sir, if you are a person who buy PLEX for RL money, you really shouldn't knock people who choose to buy PLEX for in game money. Our lives are intertwined via PLEX more than you realize.
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Kesshisan
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.11.09 05:40:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
Meh, price level seldom ever moves linearly.
Bumps in both upwards and downwards trend are to be always expected.
I'm probably already telling you things you already know, but this is how I see it.
In my experience MMO markets travel sinusoidally added to a very low slope of inflation. This is an over exaggerated, and overly simplistic way to view the market trend of any item. It has its ups, and downs, and a slow but steady gain.
Then there are usually lower-magnitude higher-frequency sinusoidal functions added to the previous function, which usually occur because of weekday vs weekend trends. This is usually what they look like
In the example above I set the rate of inflation way too high, as well as I've set the magnitude of the base market too high and the frequency of weekday-weekend values too small as well. This was done to make the graph much easier to read rather than be realistic.
My trick that I've used in the past was to find out the exact rate of inflation by following the average costs of multiple extremely popular (thus stable) items, and then watch for peaks and valleys. After some time of collecting data I can determine what the average baseline should be for each date, and then determine if I'm in a peak or valley, as well as figure out the rate of inflation. At that point I can then start making some serious money by stockpiling items at their lows, and then slowly releasing into the market at their highs. It takes time to build up to this point, and it can be risky as hell, but more often than not, it pays off greatly.
However, with the new expansion coming out, this throws another monkey wrench into the calculations. If I weren't so new, I'd probably have a good idea of items to buy which will inflate greatly post expansion. Unfortunately I am new, and unwilling to risk more than a few hundred million of liquid on some risky investments. Still, this does look like it'll be a fun time for me to play with my knowledge of markets as it seems many items will be change in value, thus there will be chaos before they settle on the appropriate pricing. Hopefully I'll have a sharp enough eye to figure out these items and adjust my prices accordingly.
Regardless, I know I'll have some fun for the next few months watching (and profiting from) the market's reaction to the expansion. :D
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Raid'En
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Posted - 2010.11.09 11:19:00 -
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its true that these graph seems pretty common with most of eve's items on market :)
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Sha Kharn
Minmatar
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2010.11.09 17:32:00 -
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Wait a sec... so soon i will beable to go to Iceland for a few days brake for isk?
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Akita T
Caldari
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2010.11.09 17:53:00 -
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Edited by: Akita T on 09/11/2010 17:54:02
Originally by: Sha Kharn
Wait a sec... so soon i will beable to go to Iceland for a few days brake for isk?
The attendance to the fanfest, and only that can be paid via PLEX.
The transportation, housing and food/drinks outside of the fanfest venues however, all of that you have to pay out of your pocket with RL cash.
So, out of maybe 600-1000$ you'll spend total (plane ticket being the largest contributor), you'll be able to save 100$ or so (or whatever entry to fanfest costs otherwise) by using some PLEX instead, but you'll still have to shell out 500-900$ or thereabouts for everything else.
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Raid'En
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Posted - 2010.11.09 17:58:00 -
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i have looked closely at price since the begining of this thread, and seems every few hours we see price raising and lowering a lot.
seems after sell and buy converge a new pike of buy orders appears.
you think we will go reach 400m on the next days before the end of power of two ?
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volhar
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Posted - 2010.11.09 18:10:00 -
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its a wild ride, that's for sure... right now my decision to dump tech and buy plexes with the money is paying out considering the way both are headed
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Akita T
Caldari
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2010.11.09 18:12:00 -
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Originally by: volhar
its a wild ride, that's for sure... right now my decision to dump tech and buy plexes with the money is paying out considering the way both are headed
What makes you think those two trends are unrelated ?
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volhar
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Posted - 2010.11.09 18:17:00 -
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oh, nothing, I'm sure I'm not the only one to have had that idea :)
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Raid'En
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Posted - 2010.11.09 18:45:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: volhar
its a wild ride, that's for sure... right now my decision to dump tech and buy plexes with the money is paying out considering the way both are headed
What makes you think those two trends are unrelated ?
so that's why tech price are crashing :)
well i sold my stock long ago seeing the price didn't want to move :p
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Posted - 2010.11.10 04:03:00 -
[63]
Originally by: corestwo
Originally by: Thrasymachus TheSophist
But I'm sitting in JITA looking at the graphs and .... I'm not seeing anything really remarkable. 370mill/Plex. It was over 380mill mid October ...
Try looking at the actual prices instead of the graph. They're at 379.25 right now, up about 29 million from prior to this thread going up yesterday.
But they peaked over 380 mid-October. They're under 380 now. Thats not a really big bump ... its just the normal up/down.
PLEX still seems a solid investment given the 6 mos. upward trend, and again - the fundamentals predict upward trend -- I'm jsut not seeing a huge jump right now.
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Fan Li
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Posted - 2010.11.10 18:48:00 -
[64]
Originally by: Thrasymachus TheSophist
But they peaked over 380 mid-October. They're under 380 now. Thats not a really big bump ... its just the normal up/down.
PLEX still seems a solid investment given the 6 mos. upward trend, and again - the fundamentals predict upward trend -- I'm jsut not seeing a huge jump right now.
Maybe you missed the part about them offering twice as much time per plex (6 months for only 3 plex) if you use it on a Po2...maybe you missed that they are allowing people to buy fanfest tickets with plex...or account transfers for plex...etc...etc...etc...? |
ForumWarrior
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Posted - 2010.11.11 06:07:00 -
[65]
Originally by: Thrasymachus TheSophist
I'm jsut not seeing a huge jump right now.
Peaked at 390 today. Still trending upward in their roller-coastering.
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Posted - 2010.11.11 22:30:00 -
[66]
i have the impression it's becoming to decay
hope so, as i already sold mines :)
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RutilusUnus
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Posted - 2010.11.12 21:34:00 -
[67]
Everyone should probably sell their plex immediately as the prices for them have already dropped ~15m in a single day.
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Rasz Lin
Caldari
Racketeers
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Posted - 2010.11.13 02:30:00 -
[68]
I agree, please sell already
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EvilCheez
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Posted - 2010.11.13 03:53:00 -
[69]
Either its all about to crash all the way down to 300, or its friday......
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Merovee
Amarr
Gorthaur Legion
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Posted - 2010.11.13 10:19:00 -
[70]
Edited by: Merovee on 13/11/2010 10:21:24
Akita
Just wondering with QE2 in full swing if buying plexes now would be a good idea before real inflation kicks in and ccp raises the price of subs to 20 - 25 $us. How would this effect the price spread in game between the Euro and Asian players and the hapless poor players of the US?
Merovee
Of Mordor
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Spectre Wraith
Darwin Inc.
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Posted - 2010.11.13 11:02:00 -
[71]
Where does it state they would raise the sub price? Something of note in regards to this in the report, states there are more plex being created then used, the price is likely to crash with that being the case (eventually).
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RutilusUnus
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Posted - 2010.11.13 18:23:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Merovee
Edited by: Merovee on 13/11/2010 10:21:24
Akita
Just wondering with QE2 in full swing if buying plexes now would be a good idea before real inflation kicks in and ccp raises the price of subs to 20 - 25 $us. How would this effect the price spread in game between the Euro and Asian players and the hapless poor players of the US?
Merovee
I'm pretty sure that if subscription prices were going to rise there would be some sort of indication or notification about it.
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Akita T
Caldari
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2010.11.13 18:54:00 -
[73]
Originally by: Merovee
[...]before real inflation kicks in and ccp raises the price of subs to 20 - 25 $us[...]
What the hell are you smoking ?
In a time period where more and more games actually go F2P, why would CCP do anything so utterly suicidal as to raise subscription price ?
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Sha Kharn
Minmatar
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2010.11.13 22:31:00 -
[74]
we are talking ccp here right ?
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Akita T
Caldari
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2010.11.13 22:45:00 -
[75]
Originally by: Sha Kharn
we are talking ccp here right ?
They haven't done anything THAT stupid before...
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Nikolai Kondratiev
Sphere Design Inc.
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Posted - 2010.11.14 05:03:00 -
[76]
Edited by: Nikolai Kondratiev on 14/11/2010 05:03:30
No decent MMO editor is stupid enough to think that they can charge more than ~15Ç/$ per month.
Oh and PLEX down to 365m, everyone should dump their entire stock right now before it crashes too hard
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egola
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.11.14 05:13:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Nikolai Kondratiev
Edited by: Nikolai Kondratiev on 14/11/2010 05:03:30
No decent MMO editor is stupid enough to think that they can charge more than ~15Ç/$ per month.
Oh and PLEX down to 365m, everyone should dump their entire stock right now before it crashes too hard
done and done! now when do the market manipulations begin!?!
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EvilCheez
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Posted - 2010.11.14 06:31:00 -
[78]
Edited by: EvilCheez on 14/11/2010 06:34:35
Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: Sha Kharn
we are talking ccp here right ?
They haven't done anything THAT stupid before...
Write it down......Akita T gives CCP credit for some modi****of intelligence....
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EDIT: The Word is -----M o d i c u m not at all dirty folks
I am not an person who uses profanity.
By the way Suburbanite scum who make filters like that should be exterminated.
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JoinMee
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Posted - 2010.11.14 11:08:00 -
[79]
Originally by: EvilCheez
Edited by: EvilCheez on 14/11/2010 06:34:35
Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: Sha Kharn
we are talking ccp here right ?
They haven't done anything THAT stupid before...
Write it down......Akita T gives CCP credit for some modi****of intelligence....
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EDIT: The Word is -----M o d i c u m not at all dirty folks
I am not an person who uses profanity.
By the way Suburbanite scum who make filters like that should be exterminated.
Reported for intentional filter-dodging.
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Londo Cebb
Official Market Discussions Troll
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Posted - 2010.11.23 17:39:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Akita T
P.S. It's likely to only be a two or maybe three week spike, so make sure to get out of it before it crashes.
How did you know?
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Dariah Stardweller
Gallente
NO U111 Enterprises
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Posted - 2010.11.23 18:57:00 -
[81]
Originally by: Londo Cebb
Originally by: Akita T
P.S. It's likely to only be a two or maybe three week spike, so make sure to get out of it before it crashes.
How did you know?
Is it crashing then?
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thelung187
Guiding Hand Social Club
Dystopia Alliance
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Posted - 2010.11.23 21:10:00 -
[82]
Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: Sha Kharn
we are talking ccp here right ?
They haven't done anything THAT stupid before...
boot.ini
just sayin'
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Taram Caldar
Royal Black Watch Highlanders
Warped Aggression
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Posted - 2010.11.23 23:28:00 -
[83]
Originally by: Merovee
Edited by: Merovee on 13/11/2010 10:21:24
Before real inflation kicks in and ccp raises the price of subs to 20 - 25 $us. How would this effect the price spread in game between the Euro and Asian players and the hapless poor players of the US?
Easy:
Mass account cancellations. Not just alts either. Mains too. A move of that type would be suicidal for CCP. I probably would cancel altogether if they tried to raise it to $20+ / month. I absolutely guarantee I'd cancel my alt account.
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Akita T
Caldari
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2010.11.24 01:33:00 -
[84]
Edited by: Akita T on 24/11/2010 01:34:24
Originally by: thelung187
Quote:
They haven't done anything THAT stupid before...
boot.ini - just sayin'
That was an accident, not an intentional change made by them. Different story.
Originally by: Londo Cebb
Originally by: Akita T
P.S. It's likely to only be a two or maybe three week spike, so make sure to get out of it before it crashes
How did you know?
Well, I can't see the future and I don't have insider info, but it seemed pretty obvious at the time
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corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
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Posted - 2010.11.24 02:45:00 -
[85]
And yet they're still above 380.
Could it be...is Akita T...wrong?
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Cash Equivalent
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Posted - 2010.11.24 04:15:00 -
[86]
It seems like plex-for-character-transfers are still on the table at this point?
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Akita T
Caldari
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2010.11.24 05:02:00 -
[87]
Edited by: Akita T on 24/11/2010 05:04:36
Originally by: corestwo
And yet they're still above 380.
Could it be...is Akita T...wrong?
Do you honestly expect an overnight crash back to older levels ?
It's always a gradual shift, but it's clearly started going downwards, for now.
Originally by: Cash Equivalent
It seems like plex-for-character-transfers are still on the table at this point?
Yes : portrait changes, character transfers
Ending some time later : fanfest tickets
Already expired but might come back next year : power of two
Not at all anymore : attribute remaps
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enterprisePSI
Gallente
Unimatrix 0.1
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Posted - 2010.11.24 09:19:00 -
[88]
altitude 375mil , falling like a rock
Tears, or the titan dies!
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corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
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Posted - 2010.11.24 13:44:00 -
[89]
Originally by: enterprisePSI
altitude 375mil , falling like a rock
Don't get so excited over normal daily fluctuation.
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Drexciyian
The Water Margin Tech
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Posted - 2010.11.24 14:04:00 -
[90]
Ive gone from 5 to 2 accounts using plex to transfer, wonder how many others will do the same
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RutilusUnus
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Posted - 2010.11.24 16:18:00 -
[91]
Edited by: RutilusUnus on 24/11/2010 16:18:19
Originally by: Drexciyian
Ive gone from 5 to 2 accounts using plex to transfer, wonder how many others will do the same
I'm sure some people will condense accounts with the use of plex, so it may take awhile for the price of plex to fall due to this and the stubbornness of traders but it is surely falling. Give it another month and prices will be much lower then they are at this moment.
Page 4 snipah!
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Caldariftw123
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Posted - 2010.11.24 16:26:00 -
[92]
Originally by: RutilusUnus
Edited by: RutilusUnus on 24/11/2010 16:18:19
Originally by: Drexciyian
Ive gone from 5 to 2 accounts using plex to transfer, wonder how many others will do the same
I'm sure some people will condense accounts with the use of plex, so it may take awhile for the price of plex to fall due to this and the stubbornness of traders but it is surely falling. Give it another month and prices will be much lower then they are at this moment.
Page 4 snipah!
Why do you think they are going to fall ?
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Berikath
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Posted - 2010.11.24 16:58:00 -
[93]
Originally by: Caldariftw123
Why do you think they are going to fall ?
1. Summer ending, many kids going back to school & having much less time to farm ISK; many will either unsub or swap over to paying for a reg sub.
2. Highly-anticipated mechanics change caused a bubble in PLEX prices. Bubbles don't grow infinitely, they burst.
3. Said mechanics change is not going into effect, so demand will not even go up to expected levels.
4. Respected members of MD forum are pretty unanimously agreeing that price will drop. Look up "self-fulfilling prophecy".
Any one of these factors would likely lead to PLEX prices dropping to some degree. We have all of them. At once.
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MailDeadDrop
The Collective
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Posted - 2010.11.24 17:07:00 -
[94]
Originally by: Caldariftw123
Why do you think they are going to fall ?
Originally by: Berikath
1. Summer ending, many kids going back to school & having much less time to farm ISK; many will either unsub or swap over to paying for a reg sub.
(snip)
Any one of these factors would likely lead to PLEX prices dropping to some degree. We have all of them. At once.
/me checks calendar.
/me considers that Berikath could be in the Southern Hemisphere, then realizes that it is the end of Spring there.
"Is it the end of November where you are?"
Given that your very first point is utter nonsense, I shan't bother to evaluate the remaining ones.
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Cash Equivalent
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Posted - 2010.11.24 17:08:00 -
[95]
It's almost December--Summer ended 2 months ago. Things traditionally pick up over the holidays. Demand, rather than speculation, is responsible for the recent increases. There are no signs of a bubble.
At Christmas I'm projecting an ask price of 390 with occasional churn over 400.
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Maria Yumeno
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Posted - 2010.11.24 17:33:00 -
[96]
Originally by: Cash Equivalent
It's almost December--Summer ended 2 months ago. Things traditionally pick up over the holidays. Demand, rather than speculation, is responsible for the recent increases. There are no signs of a bubble.
Wouldn't increased activity mean more people buying plexes for $$$ as they have more time to spend playing the game? ....oh ghod, it's all just a vicious cycle, i can't get my head around it!
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RutilusUnus
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Posted - 2010.11.24 17:41:00 -
[97]
Originally by: Berikath
Originally by: Caldariftw123
Why do you think they are going to fall ?
1. Summer ending, many kids going back to school & having much less time to farm ISK; many will either unsub or swap over to paying for a reg sub.
2. Highly-anticipated mechanics change caused a bubble in PLEX prices. Bubbles don't grow infinitely, they burst.
3. Said mechanics change is not going into effect, so demand will not even go up to expected levels.
4. Respected members of MD forum are pretty unanimously agreeing that price will drop. Look up "self-fulfilling prophecy".
Any one of these factors would likely lead to PLEX prices dropping to some degree. We have all of them. At once.
Points 2-4 are probably the ones that I see are the most valid. People were stocking up on plex and causing the price to bubble because of the plex-for-remap shenanigans. Now with this feature not coming into affect people are stubbornly sitting on stocks and hoping that the price doesn't go too far down. If it does though it will just cause a huge sell off and drop prices. I think that the increased uses for plex will keep them high, maybe just not as high as they are at this current moment. These are all guesses though so who knows
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Minnie miss
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Posted - 2010.11.24 18:38:00 -
[98]
Still no signs of crashing PLEX here.
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Ashina Sito
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2010.11.24 19:02:00 -
[99]
Originally by: MailDeadDrop
Originally by: Caldariftw123
Why do you think they are going to fall ?
Originally by: Berikath
1. Summer ending, many kids going back to school & having much less time to farm ISK; many will either unsub or swap over to paying for a reg sub.
(snip)
Any one of these factors would likely lead to PLEX prices dropping to some degree. We have all of them. At once.
/me checks calendar.
/me considers that Berikath could be in the Southern Hemisphere, then realizes that it is the end of Spring there.
"Is it the end of November where you are?"
Given that your very first point is utter nonsense, I shan't bother to evaluate the remaining ones.
MDD
The vast majority of Eve players are in the northern hemisphere. As such the comment of "summer ending" is valid. That said I don;t agree with the summer logic since again the majority of the player base is old enough so they are NOT in school. They may farm out their kids to make ISK over the summer though....
PLEX will go down. Price was only up do to speculators, as usual. While I would be surprised if they drop below 300 million ISK (In Jita) they should fall close to that(for buy orders). I believe most of teh Jita market is made of speculators so they will not wish to dump stock anytime soon and lose ISK. We are more likely waiting for the PLEX overflow to catch back up and move the price down. Since there are more options for using PLEX it will take a bit longer. It will fall though.
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Brakur Ualkin
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Posted - 2010.11.24 22:08:00 -
[100]
Another temporary factor affecting PLEX prices is the Commissioned Officer Edition (COE?) and its 30 day CD code.
At least in North America, it can make more sense to activate a buddy account with the CD code than to use a PLEX, which should reduce PLEX demand to a degree.
However some existing players who normally buy (with $) and sell (for isk) PLEX, may be buying the COE instead, reducing supply and increasing the number of alts they may keep subbed.
No idea which effect is bigger overall; but the $13.49 price tag plus the Cerebral Accelerator convinced me to open my wallet for EVE, which hasn't happened in a very long time.
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Posted - 2010.11.24 22:28:00 -
[101]
I think the demand for plex is a lot higher than it has been in the past, tbh, so I wouldn't be expecting a crash any time soon. There has been a big climb in plex prices through the year, not all speculation driven. Don't forget there's a lot more isk in the game, more people with semi-passive incomes from PI, and with a lot of people short on RL cash "in this current economic climate" people may be more willing to work a bit more in EVE to get isk, to pay for their account, rather than use their limited real money.
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Ash Donai
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Posted - 2010.11.24 22:52:00 -
[102]
Originally by: Berikath
4. Respected members of MD forum are pretty unanimously agreeing that price will drop.
Just LOL @ that.
It's pretty irrelevant what "respected members" agree on when reality disagrees with them.
I still saved the link to the post that says PLEX will be 317 mil +/- 5 mil in February because that's their "true value". I can't wait to dig that up in February and show at the very least one "respected member" just how wrong he was and that his expert advice is basically the same as asking the clerk at the grocery store checkout isle what happens to PLEX prices, whether the clerk actually plays EVE or not doesn't matter.
"Respected members" have spent far too much time forum warrioring instead of actually playing the game to realize how far they are removed from the reality of what drives PLEX prices and just how much essentially useless ISK there's out there with nothing but PLEX to spend it on. |
Mme Pinkerton
United Engineering Services
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Posted - 2010.11.24 23:01:00 -
[103]
Edited by: Mme Pinkerton on 24/11/2010 23:01:23
Originally by: Ash Donai
Originally by: Berikath
4. Respected members of MD forum are pretty unanimously agreeing that price will drop.
Just LOL @ that.
It's pretty irrelevant what "respected members" agree on when reality disagrees with them.
Originally by: Berikath
Look up "self-fulfilling prophecy".
As long as not too many people think the way you do, it doesn't matter if "respected members" really know more about the fundamentals behind PLEX prices than your grocery store clerk. The only thing that matters is if people believe that enough other people believe that "respected members" might know what they're doing.
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Cergorach
Amarr
The Helix Foundation
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Posted - 2010.11.25 10:59:00 -
[104]
The current big price driver is the 'get 5 days free' for an old inactive account. The "Offer expires November 21st, 2010", add 5 days to that and the current demand will top off by the 26th (tomorrow). Before that there was the 'Power of 2' for which you could pay with with PLEX. And the information on paying for character transfer an portrait swap with PLEX. So that explains the price rice from last month...
8th November - 26th November => 'get 5 days free'
5th November - 14th November => 'Power of 2'
6th November => 'character transfer an portrait swap'
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Cergorach
Amarr
The Helix Foundation
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Posted - 2010.11.25 19:18:00 -
[105]
And now we have another thing that will drive up the PLEX price. Steam has a new account code for $5/Ç5, although it can't be used for adding time to an old account or with the buddy program (like last time), it'll attract new players. Players that have between 30-51 days to earn enough isk to buy a PLEX to extend their game time...
So add:
25th november til 25 december or 15 januari => 'Steam $5/Ç5 new account'
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Cash Equivalent
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Posted - 2010.11.25 19:23:00 -
[106]
I'm half sure the "get 5 days free" deal required a CC to reactivate the account after the 5 days, plex weren't eligible. Could be wrong about that one.
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Cergorach
Amarr
The Helix Foundation
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Posted - 2010.11.25 19:33:00 -
[107]
Originally by: Cash Equivalent
I'm half sure the "get 5 days free" deal required a CC to reactivate the account after the 5 days, plex weren't eligible. Could be wrong about that one.
You are wrong about that, I just activated three accounts that way, you did get the oppertunity to extend the 5 days with 60 days for only 19.95.
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Dariah Stardweller
Gallente
NO U111 Enterprises
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Posted - 2010.11.26 17:01:00 -
[108]
Trend remains upwards.
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Rasz Lin
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2010.11.26 17:28:00 -
[109]
My tash murkon plexes started selling at 410mil yesterday :D
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Cash Equivalent
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Posted - 2010.11.26 17:32:00 -
[110]
Originally by: Cergorach
Originally by: Cash Equivalent
I'm half sure the "get 5 days free" deal required a CC to reactivate the account after the 5 days, plex weren't eligible. Could be wrong about that one.
You are wrong about that, I just activated three accounts that way, you did get the oppertunity to extend the 5 days with 60 days for only 19.95.
I guess what confused me was the terms:
"ETC and PLEX cannot be used with this offer."
(I just got an email saying this offer was extended to Friday, Dec 3)
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Ariel Dawn
F9X
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Posted - 2010.11.26 17:53:00 -
[111]
PLEX prices will go even higher with Incarna customization/vanity being tied to it, as well as possible ship/corp logos, skins, etc. Bought ~700 PLEXes on a whim back when they were around 270m; considering that more ISK is put into EVE every day than taken out and a probably fairly large player reactivation/new player spike when Incarna rolls around, wouldn't be surprised if they hit 500m sometime next year during Incarna.
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Xemoxa
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Posted - 2010.11.26 23:49:00 -
[112]
Originally by: Ariel Dawn
PLEX prices will go even higher with Incarna customization/vanity being tied to it, as well as possible ship/corp logos, skins, etc. Bought ~700 PLEXes on a whim back when they were around 270m; considering that more ISK is put into EVE every day than taken out and a probably fairly large player reactivation/new player spike when Incarna rolls around, wouldn't be surprised if they hit 500m sometime next year during Incarna.
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Rhedea
BlackWing Cartel
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Posted - 2010.11.27 09:22:00 -
[113]
All of a sudden 5/6 of my plexs where bought at my really high price of 490M each this week. Damn I should rush back to jita and reset my price on my last plex to 550M before it sells.
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Ariel Dawn
F9X
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Posted - 2010.11.27 17:27:00 -
[114]
Originally by: Xemoxa
Originally by: Ariel Dawn
PLEX prices will go even higher with Incarna customization/vanity being tied to it, as well as possible ship/corp logos, skins, etc. Bought ~700 PLEXes on a whim back when they were around 270m; considering that more ISK is put into EVE every day than taken out and a probably fairly large player reactivation/new player spike when Incarna rolls around, wouldn't be surprised if they hit 500m sometime next year during Incarna.
You bought 190Billion in Plex?
Why not? Was taking a break from EVE and do contract trading so had tons of liquid ISK sitting around doing nothing; PLEXes are pretty much guaranteed to appreciate over time as more players and ISK enter the game. Unless EVE goes free-to-play, there's pretty much no risk whatsoever dumping ISK into PLEX, the prices will go up eventually.
Remember, you used to be able to buy 90 day GTCs for under 300m a few years ago. Now you pay 380m+ for a 30 day, and soon they'll be able to let you customize ships/avatars? Stock up now, smoke a cigar while lounging around in the future.
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Caldariftw123
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Posted - 2010.11.27 17:50:00 -
[115]
Originally by: Ariel Dawn
Originally by: Xemoxa
Originally by: Ariel Dawn
PLEX prices will go even higher with Incarna customization/vanity being tied to it, as well as possible ship/corp logos, skins, etc. Bought ~700 PLEXes on a whim back when they were around 270m; considering that more ISK is put into EVE every day than taken out and a probably fairly large player reactivation/new player spike when Incarna rolls around, wouldn't be surprised if they hit 500m sometime next year during Incarna.
You bought 190Billion in Plex?
Why not? Was taking a break from EVE and do contract trading so had tons of liquid ISK sitting around doing nothing; PLEXes are pretty much guaranteed to appreciate over time as more players and ISK enter the game. Unless EVE goes free-to-play, there's pretty much no risk whatsoever dumping ISK into PLEX, the prices will go up eventually.
Remember, you used to be able to buy 90 day GTCs for under 300m a few years ago. Now you pay 380m+ for a 30 day, and soon they'll be able to let you customize ships/avatars? Stock up now, smoke a cigar while lounging around in the future.
I note the "F9X" in your corp, and it makes me think of that guy who claimed he had trillions of isk. It makes me chuckle a little bit.
I don't doubt you, btw, it's not like 190billion isk is a ludicrous sum considering how long your char has been around for, but it still made me chuckle.
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Ash Donai
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Posted - 2010.11.27 20:19:00 -
[116]
Originally by: Caldariftw123
I note the "F9X" in your corp, and it makes me think of that guy who claimed he had trillions of isk. It makes me chuckle a little bit.
Also, don't forget the one and only CNR BPO!
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Ave Volta
Red Frog Freight
Red-Frog
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Posted - 2010.11.27 20:38:00 -
[117]
Originally by: Ash Donai
Originally by: Caldariftw123
I note the "F9X" in your corp, and it makes me think of that guy who claimed he had trillions of isk. It makes me chuckle a little bit.
Also, don't forget the one and only CNR BPO!
^ This. And anyone who spends 190B on a "whim" is either lying or stupid imo...
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Ariel Dawn
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Posted - 2010.11.27 20:45:00 -
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By whim I meant instead of just taking a break from EVE without doing anything I threw my ISK into PLEXes instead, gambled would have been a better word.
I'm not F90, just an old friend, forgot I had the show corp thing toggled.
Still, GTC and then PLEX prices have been going up at quite a significant rate since the start of EVE and considering CCP is in a good position, even if the market for some reason crashed right now in the short term, with the way EVE is setup and upcoming features/player base increase, I'd say it's a very solid bet to make a whole bunch of ISK if you don't want to do anything past buying up some stock and just selling it down the road.
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cosmoray
Cosmoray Holdings Corp
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Posted - 2010.11.27 22:16:00 -
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Unless the popularity of Eve goes down. Then CCP will still have banked all the cash in advance.
Admittedly I am subbed through 2016 (I cashed the PLEX'es for time), as I had nothing to do with the cash and it allows me to come and go from the game as I please.
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Drake Vos
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2010.11.30 10:26:00 -
[120]
So, masters of the market,
I'm considering getting a pair of PLEX for my (fairly) new account (40 Euros atm), liquidating one for funds and using the other for gametime (or maybe liquidate both )
Since the price is on a significant rise at the moment, and I would get quite a lot of ISK for this, would you consider this worthwhile, or am I better saving my IRL money?
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Dariah Stardweller
Gallente
NO U111 Enterprises
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Posted - 2010.11.30 10:31:00 -
[121]
Originally by: Drake Vos
So, masters of the market,
I'm considering getting a pair of PLEX for my (fairly) new account (40 Euros atm), liquidating one for funds and using the other for gametime (or maybe liquidate both )
Since the price is on a significant rise at the moment, and I would get quite a lot of ISK for this, would you consider this worthwhile, or am I better saving my IRL money?
If you need that RL money for food, housing or other essentials, you'd be better saving it.
Other than that, PLEX is indeed at a high price level atm so now would be a good time to convert RL cash into iskies.
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Cergorach
Amarr
The Helix Foundation
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Posted - 2010.11.30 10:54:00 -
[122]
We have no idea what your value of RL cash vs. time is and whether you have a large surplus of RL cash. If you need the cash for essentials I doubt that you would consider buying PLEX for isk. I'm one of those foolish people that find it devalues the gaming experience for myself, I won't judge you for it, because I perfectly well understand that folks would rather spend an hours salary then spend grinding hours upon hours grinding (especially young pilots). At least it gives me the opportunity to play the game for 'free' ;-)
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Drake Vos
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2010.11.30 11:56:00 -
[123]
Edited by: Drake Vos on 30/11/2010 11:57:29
Well I'm not short on IRL money, so that's not a problem.
The way I see it, if I cash one, that will give be a 380mil injection. No small amount, but it will let me buy a few frigs for RvB and general PvP without taking forever. I'll still do the missions to get experience, but it just means I don't have to worry about running out of money if I lose a few ships when I venture into lowsec and PvP
It will also allow me to have a reserve for collateral use for contracts, as well as being able to play a little in the stock market.
I can understand how some would feel it devalues the game, but as least I'm using PLEX rather than paying an ISK seller :p
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Cergorach
Amarr
The Helix Foundation
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Posted - 2010.11.30 12:13:00 -
[124]
Originally by: Drake Vos
Edited by: Drake Vos on 30/11/2010 11:57:29
I can understand how some would feel it devalues the game, but as least I'm using PLEX rather than paying an ISK seller :p
And for that we're all thankful! Another PLEX to the market...
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Drake Vos
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2010.11.30 20:51:00 -
[125]
Bump on this.
I'm looking for a quick sell, so I've stuck one at 375, inbetween the current low sell price and high buy order price. That will do nicely for me as a cash injection, and someone savvy can probably turn a decent profit on this.
It's at Gicodel VII if you want it.
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RutilusUnus
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Posted - 2010.12.01 01:38:00 -
[126]
When the hell did plex drop so fast??
Sell/buy in jita atm is 369/357mil.
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Caldariftw123
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Posted - 2010.12.01 02:01:00 -
[127]
Originally by: RutilusUnus
When the hell did plex drop so fast??
Sell/buy in jita atm is 369/357mil.
I've watched it tank all day. Not going to buy the plexes to find out who is doing it, but I'm fairly sure it's just one or a couple of people constantly outbidding by large amounts. Either that or everyone holding plexes had a meeting and decided today was the day they all sell and will viciously undercut each other out of spite because the biscuits were soft and the coffee was cold at this meeting?
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Jamie Jin
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Posted - 2010.12.01 02:06:00 -
[128]
Some people were clammering in Jita about no plex for remaps. Maybe the didn't get the memo before patch day?
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RutilusUnus
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Posted - 2010.12.01 02:16:00 -
[129]
Originally by: Caldariftw123
Originally by: RutilusUnus
When the hell did plex drop so fast??
Sell/buy in jita atm is 369/357mil.
I've watched it tank all day. Not going to buy the plexes to find out who is doing it, but I'm fairly sure it's just one or a couple of people constantly outbidding by large amounts. Either that or everyone holding plexes had a meeting and decided today was the day they all sell and will viciously undercut each other out of spite because the biscuits were soft and the coffee was cold at this meeting?
I like the second option
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Rasz Lin
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2010.12.01 02:22:00 -
[130]
time to buy them out and move plexes whole 5 jumps to motsu?
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Caldariftw123
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Posted - 2010.12.01 02:26:00 -
[131]
Originally by: Rasz Lin
time to buy them out and move plexes whole 5 jumps to motsu?
"Shhhh! I'm hunting wabbits underpriced plexes!"
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Akita T
Caldari
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2010.12.01 03:28:00 -
[132]
Originally by: Jamie Jin
Some people were clammering in Jita about no plex for remaps. Maybe the didn't get the memo before patch day?
Never underestimate the power of self-styled "traders" that don't read the devblogs
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Diomedes Calypso
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Posted - 2010.12.01 07:20:00 -
[133]
The part in the dev blog about becoming a dinasaur sorta got me thinking that there was some small chance they would move away from as expensive a monthly subscription price.
A cheaper monthly cost could really hurt the value of plex ...they'd need need need things like remaps and character exchanges for them to hold their value and the players don't seem to want anything that could give a bit of help in game at all...
I'm not saying it would happen, but I used to think that keeping your excess wealth in plexes was certainly safer than in Isk but now I'm not quite as 100% on that.
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Drake Vos
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2010.12.01 10:00:00 -
[134]
Saying that, after I sold mine for 375, the price in the region went down 5 mil within about 10 mins, so maybe this is just a continuation of that movement.
Of course, I might have nothing to do with it, but I linke to think I did :p
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Ash Donai
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Posted - 2010.12.01 18:31:00 -
[135]
Originally by: Diomedes Calypso
The part in the dev blog about becoming a dinasaur sorta got me thinking that there was some small chance they would move away from as expensive a monthly subscription price.
You clearly haven't been following CCPs take on the value of EVE. They consider it a "premium" MMO so if anything they will raise the price (unlikely) rather than lower it.
PLEX will be the most secure 100% passive growth investment for eternity to come. All the vanity additions that will come to EVE will be paid for by PLEX and lots of companies on Facebook et.al. made literally millions of RL $ by selling vanity products to users.
PLEX will sell for 500M within a year, no doubt about that.
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Thrasymachus TheSophist
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Posted - 2010.12.01 18:37:00 -
[136]
Originally by: Diomedes Calypso
The part in the dev blog about becoming a dinasaur sorta got me thinking that there was some small chance they would move away from as expensive a monthly subscription price.
A cheaper monthly cost could really hurt the value of plex ...they'd need need need things like remaps and character exchanges for them to hold their value and the players don't seem to want anything that could give a bit of help in game at all...
I'm not saying it would happen, but I used to think that keeping your excess wealth in plexes was certainly safer than in Isk but now I'm not quite as 100% on that.
Oh look, my sub isn't quite up yet. any day now ...
Meanwhile - I agree with Diomedes. I think Eve will, like the rest of the major MMOs, move towards "free to play" model. The economics of "free to play" are far too compelling to stick with the old monthly sub model, which fails to capture players willing to pay less than $15/month at all.
I suppose only time will tell ...
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Ash Donai
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Posted - 2010.12.01 20:01:00 -
[137]
Originally by: Thrasymachus TheSophist
Meanwhile - I agree with Diomedes. I think Eve will, like the rest of the major MMOs, move towards "free to play" model. The economics of "free to play" are far too compelling to stick with the old monthly sub model, which fails to capture players willing to pay less than $15/month at all.
Let's think about this, F2P works based on the fact that there are a great many players who are willing to pay far more than the $15/mo which in turn subsidizes the play of those who pay little or nothing at all. In the end F2P still needs to be profitable.
In effect we already have the benefit of F2P give the publisher in that those who are willing to pay more than $15/mo can do so by buying PLEX for RL cash and converting it to ISK. The publisher furthermore can rely on a steady and predictable income stream from subscriptions. Why exactly would they want to give up the bird in the hand for two in the bush?
After 7 years on the market EVE remains a niche MMO, F2P wouldn't change that the slightest.
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Cergorach
Amarr
The Helix Foundation
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Posted - 2010.12.01 20:44:00 -
[138]
F2P isn't really a strain on other MMO's (on the system), if they need more capacity, they just roll out extra servers. EVE has serious issues at certain key systems (such as Jita) and with Fleetfights. I doubt CCP would see much benefit in adding a bunch of non-paying customers to EVE online that strain the system even further, not only that, the big sale item is the actuall accounts, many folks have multiples of those (currently have four active). How would you propose F2P? No skill training? Buy Skill points, skill training at only half speed? Hell, even if there was no skill training I would activate a sh!tload of accounts (that I have dormant) and those will make a lot of isk without having to pay for it through subscription or PLEX.
As for the 500M isk for PLEX within the year, I'll believe it when I see it.
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Diomedes Calypso
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Posted - 2010.12.01 21:35:00 -
[139]
Without a move towards (even incrementally to a lower sub price or longer trial) f2play I would definitely agree with the 500million isk plex price 1 year out.
Its just the nature of games that over time they offer ways to earn the ingame currency a bit quicker ... higher bounties... etc. You need to give the sense to players that they are "better off than they were a year ago" even if they're about the same relative to other players. Maybe 500million is a bit high... could be more like 12% to 15% higher .. maye a range between 420 and 460 by this time next year...
..but thats without a move towards F2play.
I think people are missing the point ...focusing on whether F2Play is good, or whether its necessary now.
I'd agree : Its not good ... Its not necessary today.
BUT in 6 months they'll need to continue to attract new customers...even retaining an astronomical 80% of customers year to year (it cant' be that high)...the game will die wihtout attracting new players.
If 6 months from now, next to no-one is charging montly fees near $15 bucks a month that number is going to be a really hard sale . People just don't pay much higher than the going rate as a matter of principle... its just human nature.
As long as WoW and other big budget co's charge a similar monthly there isn't a problem. If WoW dropped their price to 4.95 a month...even if no eve player would consider plaing WoW their perception of the going rate for games will be set by it.
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Cergorach
Amarr
The Helix Foundation
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Posted - 2010.12.01 22:10:00 -
[140]
WoW isn't going to lower their monthly subscription, they would loose way to much money and people are still willing to pay it. Nor do I see Star Wars: The Old Republic or Final Fantasy choosing the F2P distribution model. And unless EVE is going to loose significant amounts of players to games like Black Prophecy and Perpetuum due to competing pricing, I don't see things changing for EVE for years. EVE attracts a certain kind of person, and as said before, that kind of person is usually willing to pay for this experience...
I would also make a wild guess and say that a large amount of the resources that are expended PLEX/GTC/subscription are done by old timers that have made a huge investment (of time/energy/money) in EVE online and will not quickly leave it for a cheaper game. A lot of folks do look at other games for different experiences. I have a lifetime subscription for LotRO and have made a little investment in DDO Turbine points, I also have EQ2E on my PC, all have different experiences. I also have an interest in SWtOR and BP, but not because they are the same as EVE and certainly not as a replacement. I had access to the Beta of Perpetuum, but to be honest it's not much of a different experience than EVE, so I never really pursued it.
Do you know why certain rock bands can ask $200 for their tickets and get it and others can't get $20 for a ticket? A loyal following, EVE has that in spades!
I also suspect that CCP would need to change to much of the game to see it move to F2P. If CCP would do a F2P game, it would be the WoD game, it can be designed from the ground up to be F2P...
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Diomedes Calypso
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Posted - 2010.12.01 23:49:00 -
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They would need to replace 20% of their players a year even if every player stayed 5 years before quitting.
However .. the free to play might not be such a universal trend ...
I guess they're even toying with making modern warfare go to a subscription model .
http://www.metro.co.uk/tech/games/847394-midweek-feature-the-day-gaming-changed
There is an element of doubt in terms of the value of a monthly subscription.. thats all...almost all trading has some doubt/risk .... the possibility would just make me slightly more cautious about the size of a position.
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Christian Schneider
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Posted - 2010.12.02 00:02:00 -
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Edited by: Christian Schneider on 02/12/2010 00:03:36
eve is already free to play / has already micro transaction. you don't pay 15$ per month to play the game. you only pay to get skillpoints. you can just not train your main but instead train an alt purely for the purpose of selling it eventually. by selling said alt after let's say 10 months of training you will earn enough isk to buy 12 plex. that's enough to keep your account running for 10 months and to pay the character transfer. |
Thrasymachus TheSophist
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Posted - 2010.12.02 02:19:00 -
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Edited by: Thrasymachus TheSophist on 02/12/2010 02:25:50
Originally by: Ash Donai
Let's think about this, F2P works based on the fact that there are a great many players who are willing to pay far more than the $15/mo which in turn subsidizes the play of those who pay little or nothing at all. In the end F2P still needs to be profitable.
In effect we already have the benefit of F2P give the publisher in that those who are willing to pay more than $15/mo can do so by buying PLEX for RL cash and converting it to ISK. The publisher furthermore can rely on a steady and predictable income stream from subscriptions. Why exactly would they want to give up the bird in the hand for two in the bush?
After 7 years on the market EVE remains a niche MMO, F2P wouldn't change that the slightest.
I think you misunderstand the theory of F2P. Micro transactions, which Eve has (in essence) permit the Developers to capture those willing to pay more than $15/month by offering add-ons for extra cost (here, its Plex that can be sold for ISK).
F2P's beauty is that it allows the developer to also capture those who are willing to pay LESS than $15/month. You offer barebones functionality for "free" and then capture the occasional $5, $10, $15; or the monthly $5; or the "hey thats a cool new feature I'll pay $10 once for it", etc.
The strict $$$ per month model loses all of those potential customers becuase if you are not willing to pay $15/month, then CCP gets $0 from you -- even if you would have spent $10 every 2 months, or $10 a month, or whatever your willingness to pay is.
In total fairness, Eve has a bit of an advantage over most subscription games in giving you the option to pay for game time via farming ISK and purchasing PLEX, but the lesson being learned by most game devs at this time is that Free to Play nets you ALOT more money based on the fact that LOTS more people will play your game and just spend a few bucks here and there if you can convince them that they can actually play the game for "free" (and they get invested).
Now I'm gonna go read that link about Modern Warfare goign to a sub model as thats rather shockign to me ....
EDIT: I just read that article and I'm underwhelmed. I think the Asian model will remain dominant and if they try to convert games into long-term franchieses with ongoing sub fees, they're just buying right back into the old model that empirically has proven not to work. Just one kid's opinion, of course!
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Diomedes Calypso
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Posted - 2010.12.02 03:02:00 -
[144]
Originally by: Thrasymachus TheSophist
Edited by: Thrasymachus TheSophist on 02/12/2010 02:25:50
Originally by: Ash Donai
Let's think about this, F2P works based on the fact that there are a great many players who are willing to pay far more than the $15/mo which in turn subsidizes the play of those who pay little or nothing at all. In the end F2P still needs to be profitable.
In effect we already have the benefit of F2P give the publisher in that those who are willing to pay more than $15/mo can do so by buying PLEX for RL cash and converting it to ISK. The publisher furthermore can rely on a steady and predictable income stream from subscriptions. Why exactly would they want to give up the bird in the hand for two in the bush?
After 7 years on the market EVE remains a niche MMO, F2P wouldn't change that the slightest.
I think you misunderstand the theory of F2P. Micro transactions, which Eve has (in essence) permit the Developers to capture those willing to pay more than $15/month by offering add-ons for extra cost (here, its Plex that can be sold for ISK).
F2P's beauty is that it allows the developer to also capture those who are willing to pay LESS than $15/month. You offer barebones functionality for "free" and then capture the occasional $5, $10, $15; or the monthly $5; or the "hey thats a cool new feature I'll pay $10 once for it", etc.
The strict $$$ per month model loses all of those potential customers becuase if you are not willing to pay $15/month, then CCP gets $0 from you -- even if you would have spent $10 every 2 months, or $10 a month, or whatever your willingness to pay is.
In total fairness, Eve has a bit of an advantage over most subscription games in giving you the option to pay for game time via farming ISK and purchasing PLEX, but the lesson being learned by most game devs at this time is that Free to Play nets you ALOT more money based on the fact that LOTS more people will play your game and just spend a few bucks here and there if you can convince them that they can actually play the game for "free" (and they get invested).
Now I'm gonna go read that link about Modern Warfare goign to a sub model as thats rather shockign to me ....
EDIT: I just read that article and I'm underwhelmed. I think the Asian model will remain dominant and if they try to convert games into long-term franchieses with ongoing sub fees, they're just buying right back into the old model that empirically has proven not to work. Just one kid's opinion, of course!
I doubt the modern warfare thing too.. it sounded like the floating of a trial balloon...more to judge reactions...
... I actually believe it might be a feint move to try to extract some kick-backs from microsoft x-box subscriptions under the threat of leaving.
And thats business... and people are arguing logic as they see it.. not trying to figure out the mindset of consumers ...
this is a luxury item... and impulse purchases keep retailers alive... help pay for our milk at the super-market which the retailers sell at a loss once overhead is taken into account.... ok .. not goint to go there too far
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Durnin Stormbrow
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Posted - 2010.12.02 18:28:00 -
[145]
Originally by: Thrasymachus TheSophist
Meanwhile - I agree with Diomedes. I think Eve will, like the rest of the major MMOs, move towards "free to play" model. The economics of "free to play" are far too compelling to stick with the old monthly sub model, which fails to capture players willing to pay less than $15/month at all.
EvE is already Free 2 Play via isk for Plex, and the entry requirements and grind time can't get much lower.
At current prices, any player with access to low, null, or WH planets and transport to market can fund their subscription solely through PI from a single character, and they can do it with only a few weeks training.
With additional passive income available from Datacores and 2nd & 3rd characters, it's going to take one hell of a price correction before 'grind to play' takes more than 1 or 2 extractor restarts/day and a quarterly round with the R&D agents.
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Thrasymachus TheSophist
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Posted - 2010.12.03 03:02:00 -
[146]
Originally by: Durnin Stormbrow
EvE is already Free 2 Play via isk for Plex, and the entry requirements and grind time can't get much lower.
Grind to play != free to play.
You don't get anywhere near the same folks by saying "Hey you can play for free! Just grind enough to buy a Plex!" as you do saying "Hey play for free!".
As for your critique of the "strengths" of F2P ... I'm not using the word "strength" to indicate a moral judgment, but rather a simple fact. F2P attracts TONS of players who otherwise would not play your game, and afterwards, some percentage of them will, notwithstanding having joined to play for "free", decide to spend some money. These are not contentious issues, they're facts.
Whether attracting hordes of players interested in playing for free is or is not ultimately good for a game - thats a point of debate. Whether a game developer can offer a playable experience (i.e. server capactity) for hordes of free players or not - that's also worthy of consideration.
But making a game free attracts tons more players. Period. And # of players, in many games, is a very large consideration for keeping players. And some perceentage of "free" seeking players will ultimately decide to pay money (after having invested the time to play the "free" game).
At least .. that's how it looks to me.
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Strrog
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Posted - 2010.12.03 07:02:00 -
[147]
Originally by: Jamie Jin
Some people were clammering in Jita about no plex for remaps. Maybe the didn't get the memo before patch day?
Are you saying CCP gona implement the Plex for remap?
If yes where the info came from, I do not recall seeing it in dev log.
thank you
Strrog
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Cergorach
Amarr
The Helix Foundation
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Posted - 2010.12.04 20:44:00 -
[148]
It's currently 362M/354M in Jita...
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EvilCheez
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Posted - 2010.12.09 01:00:00 -
[149]
What happens to plex price when people wake up on the 14th with enough skillpoints to fly orca/cap/tIII and not enough isk to afford the ships?
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Rasz Lin
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2010.12.09 04:27:00 -
[150]
Originally by: EvilCheez
What happens to plex price when people wake up on the 14th with enough skillpoints to fly orca/cap/tIII and not enough isk to afford the ships?
simple - they will bot more for isk
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Malcanis
Caldari
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2010.12.09 14:40:00 -
[151]
Originally by: Thrasymachus TheSophist
Originally by: Durnin Stormbrow
EvE is already Free 2 Play via isk for Plex, and the entry requirements and grind time can't get much lower.
Grind to play != free to play.
Have you ever actually played a F2P game for free?
Hint: you'll be grinding.
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sir gankalot
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Posted - 2010.12.18 12:55:00 -
[152]
PLEX appears to be on the way down atm. Quite fast too.
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Tasko Pal
Spallated Garniferous Schist
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Posted - 2010.12.18 15:46:00 -
[153]
Edited by: Tasko Pal on 18/12/2010 15:46:36
Originally by: sir gankalot
PLEX appears to be on the way down atm. Quite fast too.
I guess those shiny new ships don't buy themselves? Good observation.
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Ash Donai
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Posted - 2010.12.18 21:43:00 -
[154]
Originally by: sir gankalot
PLEX appears to be on the way down atm. Quite fast too.
It's all the college kids who are done with school and home for xmas needing some quick ISK for pew pew. Can't wait to buy back into PLEX and sell it in just a few short days for a handsome profit.
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PuffnSnuff
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Posted - 2010.12.19 01:52:00 -
[155]
Originally by: Ash Donai
Originally by: sir gankalot
PLEX appears to be on the way down atm. Quite fast too.
It's all the college kids who are done with school and home for xmas needing some quick ISK for pew pew. Can't wait to buy back into PLEX and sell it in just a few short days for a handsome profit.
This college kid is enjoying all the isk that I am making from this price shift 
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sir gankalot
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Posted - 2010.12.19 15:41:00 -
[156]
Originally by: Ash Donai
Originally by: sir gankalot
PLEX appears to be on the way down atm. Quite fast too.
It's all the college kids who are done with school and home for xmas needing some quick ISK for pew pew. Can't wait to buy back into PLEX and sell it in just a few short days for a handsome profit.
College kids have RL cash to blow on GTC's?
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ludv
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Posted - 2011.02.07 10:15:00 -
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As long as you dont spend money on a girlfriend, college students have thousands of dollars to spend on EVE.
Remember. Girlfriends are useless and has very low sharpe ratio (high risk low return) , unless ur gonna get married.
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flakeys
DRAMA Inc
Sev3rance
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Posted - 2011.02.07 10:22:00 -
[158]
Originally by: ludv
unless ur gonna get married.
Then it really becomes a useless big isk sink ....
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Caldariftw123
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Posted - 2011.02.07 12:02:00 -
[159]
Originally by: flakeys
Originally by: ludv
unless ur gonna get married.
Then it really becomes a useless big isk sink ....
You heard it here first folks .. This is the future isk sink CCP have been seeking! Incarna will include MARRIAGES!
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egola
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.02.07 15:29:00 -
[160]
Originally by: Caldariftw123
Originally by: flakeys
Originally by: ludv
unless ur gonna get married.
Then it really becomes a useless big isk sink ....
You heard it here first folks .. This is the future isk sink CCP have been seeking! Incarna will include MARRIAGES!
to make it even more profitable for CCP you'll have to use PLEX to get married (another 3 plexes to annul said marriage)
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flakeys
DRAMA Inc
Sev3rance
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Posted - 2011.02.07 17:50:00 -
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A divorce should take away half your wallet then and while married your number of buy orders should be double the amount of sell orders you can have.
I think we r on to something here.
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Tasko Pal
Spallated Garniferous Schist
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Posted - 2011.02.07 21:38:00 -
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Originally by: flakeys
A divorce should take away half your wallet then
That's before the lawyer's cut. I think we found a new mini-profession.
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Posted - 2011.02.09 01:44:00 -
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so... until how much will the price drop ?
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Akita T
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Posted - 2011.02.09 01:47:00 -
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Originally by: Raid'En
so... until how much will the price drop ?
Probably right after the fanfest.
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