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Mericon
NanoCore Systems
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Posted - 2012.08.08 02:00:00 -
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I have recently read the up grades to all the minning ships. The hulk should be King of all minning vessels Im a maxed out minner with a alt that is a maxed orca boost and a roqual pilot. I have a large portion of skill points dedicated to this. I agree that minning ships need beter protection from gankers. but the inprovment to the small and mid size minning ships are so great why would any one want to fly a hulk. if you kill the hulks massive benifits why the hell fly it its not worth traning for it. I feel robed. I have always paid cash for my eve time and never plexed always felt it a privlage to play this game. but if you do this to the hulk good buy game. |

Rengerel en Distel
Amarr Science and Industry
284
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Posted - 2012.08.08 02:02:00 -
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it still has the max yield if fit for max yield. if you have $20 and the guy next to you has $18 do you feel "robed" as well?
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Pankas Carter
Viziam Amarr Empire
25
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Posted - 2012.08.08 02:03:00 -
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Minning? Robed? Privlage? Good buy game?
Ignoring all that, this is yet another gank wine in disguise.
0/100.

Just in case you're serious: Go train another ship. Nobody is forcing you to use hulks. Adama: Starbuck, what do you hear? Starbuck: Nothing but the rain. Adama: Then grab your gun and bring in the cat. |

Shukuzen Kiraa
Neurodyne
209
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Posted - 2012.08.08 02:05:00 -
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Mericon wrote: I have recently read the up grades to all the minning ships. The hulk should be King of all minning vessels
Hulk still out mines everything, still the king of the mining ships. Not sure what you have to complain about. |

Grumpymunky
Super Monkey Tribe of Danger
450
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Posted - 2012.08.08 02:07:00 -
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Mericon wrote:I feel robed. ... and wizard-hatted!
Post with your monkey. |

Sentamon
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
108
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Posted - 2012.08.08 02:14:00 -
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Mericon wrote: I have recently read the up grades to all the minning ships. The hulk should be King of all minning vessels Im a maxed out minner with a alt that is a maxed orca boost and a roqual pilot. I have a large portion of skill points dedicated to this. I agree that minning ships need beter protection from gankers. but the inprovment to the small and mid size minning ships are so great why would any one want to fly a hulk. if you kill the hulks massive benifits why the hell fly it its not worth traning for it. I feel robed. I have always paid cash for my eve time and never plexed always felt it a privlage to play this game. but if you do this to the hulk good buy game.
Perhaps you can mine some tissues?
~ Professional Forum Alt -á~ |

Montevius Williams
Eclipse Industrial Inc
311
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Posted - 2012.08.08 02:16:00 -
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What everyone else has said. Hulk is still a beast at pure mining. As a matter afact, it mines everything better than the other ships (Ice, Mercoxit) as well. Not sure what changes have been made to tank but I dont think too much has changed here. The Procurer/Skiff is now the anti Hulkagedon ship. It has the tank that all the miners wanted on the Hulk.
-Hulk is the king of mining yield (HUGE Yield on EVERYTHING) -Mackinaw is the afk miner (HUGE Ore Hold) -Skiff is the anti Hulkagedon ship (HUGE Tank) "The American Government indoctrination system known as public education has been relentlessly churning out socialists for over 20 years". - TravisWB |

Karl Hobb
Stellar Ore Refinery and Crematorium
462
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Posted - 2012.08.08 02:16:00 -
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Pankas Carter wrote:Minning? Robed? Privlage? Good buy game? Ignoring all that, this is yet another gank wine in disguise. 0/100.  It's like he wrote it out in plain English and then went back to deliberately misspell a few words. Nothing Found |

Attica
Social Destortion
12
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Posted - 2012.08.08 02:19:00 -
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Grumpymunky wrote:Mericon wrote:I feel robed. ... and wizard-hatted!
HAHHAAHA classic ! Pirate tears are yummier than carebear tears for they come from the deeper well of anguish. |

Cadfael Maelgwyn
Immortals of New Eden Rebel Alliance of New Eden
55
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Posted - 2012.08.08 02:20:00 -
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I wonder how many wardecs will result from that awful post... |

Grumpymunky
Super Monkey Tribe of Danger
451
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Posted - 2012.08.08 02:28:00 -
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Cadfael Maelgwyn wrote:I wonder how many wardecs will result from that awful post... You won't be able to break his skiff anyway. Oh never mind, he'll still be sitting in his hulk complaining that it doesn't tank better than a skiff, carry on.
Post with your monkey. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1254
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Posted - 2012.08.08 02:35:00 -
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Grumpymunky wrote:Cadfael Maelgwyn wrote:I wonder how many wardecs will result from that awful post... You won't be able to break his skiff anyway. Oh never mind, he'll still be sitting in his hulk complaining that it doesn't tank better than a skiff, carry on. Oh dear, looks like some BUFFZ are needed. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |

Jimmy Gunsmythe
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
116
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Posted - 2012.08.08 02:39:00 -
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Shukuzen Kiraa wrote:Mericon wrote: I have recently read the up grades to all the minning ships. The hulk should be King of all minning vessels Hulk still out mines everything, still the king of the mining ships. Not sure what you have to complain about.
Hulk is going to be a group exhumer, shining with Orca support. In this situation, Hulk SMASH
rocks, that is. A good predator knows how to live in balance with his prey, lest he follow them into oblivion. |

GordonO
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2012.08.08 02:39:00 -
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Montevius Williams wrote:What everyone else has said. Hulk is still a beast at pure mining. As a matter afact, it mines everything better than the other ships (Ice, Mercoxit) as well.
Wrong... A mack will out mine a Hulk when ice mining.. and a skiff is the best for mercoxit. they are bonused for it. . |

Frying Doom
Zat's Affiliated Traders
453
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Posted - 2012.08.08 02:41:00 -
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Things change, I have 4 maxed exhumer characters and frankly I'm happy I can trade of some yield for a great tank.
Will I use a Hulk now? No thanks. For those that do crave Max yield they just need corp mates in combat ships to kill the gankers fast. Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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Frying Doom
Zat's Affiliated Traders
453
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Posted - 2012.08.08 02:42:00 -
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GordonO wrote:Montevius Williams wrote:What everyone else has said. Hulk is still a beast at pure mining. As a matter afact, it mines everything better than the other ships (Ice, Mercoxit) as well.
Wrong... A mack will out mine a Hulk when ice mining.. and a skiff is the best for mercoxit. they are bonused for it. Not after tonight the mack and skiff loose those bonuses. Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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Montevius Williams
Eclipse Industrial Inc
311
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Posted - 2012.08.08 02:42:00 -
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GordonO wrote:Montevius Williams wrote:What everyone else has said. Hulk is still a beast at pure mining. As a matter afact, it mines everything better than the other ships (Ice, Mercoxit) as well.
Wrong... A mack will out mine a Hulk when ice mining.. and a skiff is the best for mercoxit. they are bonused for it.
You sure? Check out the patch notes - no bonuses for either. Unless the patch notes are wrong. "The American Government indoctrination system known as public education has been relentlessly churning out socialists for over 20 years". - TravisWB |

Denidil
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
419
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Posted - 2012.08.08 02:44:00 -
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Mericon wrote: I have recently read the up grades to all the minning ships. The hulk should be King of all minning vessels Im a maxed out minner with a alt that is a maxed orca boost and a roqual pilot. I have a large portion of skill points dedicated to this. I agree that minning ships need beter protection from gankers. but the inprovment to the small and mid size minning ships are so great why would any one want to fly a hulk. if you kill the hulks massive benifits why the hell fly it its not worth traning for it. I feel robed. I have always paid cash for my eve time and never plexed always felt it a privlage to play this game. but if you do this to the hulk good buy game.
THE HULK IS STILL KING OF YIELD, THE SAME SKILLS FOR THE HULK HELP WITH ALL THE BARGES, YOU ARE EITHER VERY DUMB OR A VERY WHINY. SHUT. THE. ****. UP If you don't see a problem in 0.0 eroding into two big super-coalitions and a few hangers on in areas nobody cares about.. then you don't have brains. |

Tragedy
The Creepshow
15
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Posted - 2012.08.08 02:48:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Things change, I have 4 maxed exhumer characters and frankly I'm happy I can trade of some yield for a great tank.
Will I use a Hulk now? No thanks. For those that do crave Max yield they just need corp mates in combat ships to kill the gankers fast. Its amazing how many miners don't understand alpha
edited because the forums ate my post. |

Jonah Gravenstein
717
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Posted - 2012.08.08 02:49:00 -
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GordonO wrote:Montevius Williams wrote:What everyone else has said. Hulk is still a beast at pure mining. As a matter afact, it mines everything better than the other ships (Ice, Mercoxit) as well.
Wrong... A mack will out mine a Hulk when ice mining.. and a skiff is the best for mercoxit. they are bonused for it.
Wrong, that's the current situation everything changes Weds 8 Aug
inferno 1.2 patch notes wrote: Procurer Role is now mining barge with superior defenses Mining Barge skill bonus per level: 5% bonus to shield hit points Special bonus allows its 1 mining turret to have the mining output of 3 mining turrets Slot layout: 1 High, 4 Mid, 2 Low Fittings: 45 PWG, 250 CPU Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 6000 / 5000 / 5500 Drones (bandwidth / bay): 25 / 25 Signature radius: 200 Ore hold capacity: 12000 Cargo capacity: 350
Retriever Role is now mining barge with superior ore hold capacity Mining Barge skill bonus per level: 5% bonus to ore hold capacity Special bonus allows its 2 mining turrets to have the output of 3 mining turrets Slot layout: 2 High, 1 Mid, 3 Low Fittings: 35 PWG, 235 CPU Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 2300 / 1700 / 2000 Drones (bandwidth / bay): 25 / 25 Signature radius: 250 Ore hold capacity: 22000 Cargo capacity: 450
Covetor Role is now a mining barge with superior mining output Mining Barge skill bonus per level: 4% bonus to Strip Miner yield, 3% reduction in Ice Harvester duration Slot layout: 3 High, 1 Mid, 2 Low Fittings: 35 PWG, 255 CPU Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 1700 / 1300 / 1500 Drones (bandwidth / bay): 50 / 50 Signature radius: 150 Ore hold capacity: 7000 Cargo capacity: 350
Skiff Role is now exhumer with superior defenses Mining Barge skill bonus per level: 5% bonus to shield hit points, 5% bonus to all shield resistances Exhumer skill bonus per level: 1% bonus to Strip Miner yield, 1% reduction in Ice Harvester duration Special bonus allows its 1 mining turret to have the mining output of 3 mining turrets Slot layout: 1 High, 5 Mid, 2 Low Fittings: 50 PWG, 270 CPU Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 6500 / 5500 / 6000 Drones (bandwidth / bay): 50 / 50 Signature radius: 200 Ore hold capacity: 15000 Cargo capacity: 350
Mackinaw Role is now exhumer with superior ore hold capacity Mining Barge skill bonus per level: 5% bonus to ore hold capacity, 5% bonus to all shield resistances Exhumer skill bonus per level: 1% bonus to Strip Miner yield, 1% reduction in Ice Harvester duration Special bonus allows its 2 mining turrets to have the output of 3 mining turrets Slot layout: 2 High, 4 Mid, 3 Low Fittings: 35 PWG, 270 CPU Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 3000 / 2300 / 2700 Drones (bandwidth / bay): 50 / 50 Signature radius: 250 Ore hold capacity: 28000Cargo capacity: 450
Hulk Role is now exhumer with superior mining output Mining Barge skill bonus per level: 3% bonus to Strip Miner yield, 5% bonus to all shield resistances Exhumer skill bonus per level: 3% bonus to Strip Miner yield, 4% reduction in Ice Harvester duration Slot layout: 3 High, 4 Mid, 2 Low Fittings: 35 PWG, 300 CPU Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 2200 / 1800 / 2000 Drones (bandwidth / bay): 50 / 50 Signature radius: 150 Ore hold capacity: 8500 Cargo capacity: 350
The current bonus's are changing in line with the above, source
L2PN War hasn't been fought this badly since Olaf the Hairy, High Chief of all the Vikings, accidentally ordered 80,000 battle helmets with the horns on the inside. |

Vinni Starseeker
MMMMMA
7
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Posted - 2012.08.08 02:53:00 -
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From the dev blog "Now you can choose which barge you want to fly and then put on rigs that boost your Ice or Mercoxit mining efficiency". So the Hulk can now be the best Ice miner out there - but the Mack has a better tank. |

Cutter Isaacson
Quantum Reality R n D Internet Guardians
858
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Posted - 2012.08.08 02:55:00 -
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Mericon wrote: The hulk should be King of all minning vessels
It still is.
Mericon wrote:I agree that minning ships need beter protection from gankers.
CCP thought so too, so they gave miners a hull that was capable of of surviving a gank.
Mericon wrote:if you kill the hulks massive benifits
The benefits are still the same, so not sure what you are moaning about.
Mericon wrote:I have always paid cash for my eve time and never plexed
PLEX still have to be bought with cash. A PLEX has no more or less intrinsic value than your cash payment. Actually, a PLEX is better for CCP because it costs more than a standard cash sub. Numbers of terminally stupid people seem to be on the increase, I suggest we have a real life Stupidageddon to rectify this issue. |

Frying Doom
Zat's Affiliated Traders
453
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Posted - 2012.08.08 03:00:00 -
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Mericon wrote: but if you do this to the hulk good buy game. Yes because giving the hulk the ability to have a rig that increases ice mining per hour or merc mining per hour is such a bad thing.
Yes it is now a fleet mining ship so you need an orca or jet can but its abilities are higher than before. Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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Zera Kerrigan
Dark Tempest Enterprises
7
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Posted - 2012.08.08 03:23:00 -
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Karl Hobb wrote:Pankas Carter wrote:Minning? Robed? Privlage? Good buy game? Ignoring all that, this is yet another gank wine in disguise. 0/100.  It's like he wrote it out in plain English and then went back to deliberately misspell a few words.
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Smohq Anmirorz
State War Academy Caldari State
30
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Posted - 2012.08.08 03:38:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:GordonO wrote:Montevius Williams wrote:What everyone else has said. Hulk is still a beast at pure mining. As a matter afact, it mines everything better than the other ships (Ice, Mercoxit) as well.
Wrong... A mack will out mine a Hulk when ice mining.. and a skiff is the best for mercoxit. they are bonused for it. Not after tonight the mack and skiff loose those bonuses.
Tonight?? What happened to "we want to speed things up and deliver the following for winter."? Winter comes four months early this year. |

Chozai
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2012.08.08 05:41:00 -
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Mericon wrote: I feel robed. You are not Amarr, how can you be robed?
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Lexmana
668
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Posted - 2012.08.08 06:12:00 -
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Mericon wrote: I have recently read the up grades to all the minning ships. The hulk should be King of all minning vessels Im a maxed out minner with a alt that is a maxed orca boost and a roqual pilot. I have a large portion of skill points dedicated to this. I agree that minning ships need beter protection from gankers. but the inprovment to the small and mid size minning ships are so great why would any one want to fly a hulk. if you kill the hulks massive benifits why the hell fly it its not worth traning for it. I feel robed. I have always paid cash for my eve time and never plexed always felt it a privlage to play this game. but if you do this to the hulk good buy game. So now that you have options to fly different vessels you complain that the Hulk should be king. But the Hulk has been buffed to the point where it now also is king of ice mining yield. And you still complain?
Why should anyone ever listen to a miners complaint again? |

Maddie Gunslinger
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
13
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Posted - 2012.08.08 06:18:00 -
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After I attempted to read this official post from the Emotional Miner Organisation(EMO) I decided I'm going to vote for the Emotional Ganker Organisation(EGO) instead, at least they possess a basic level of literacy... oh wait... I'm blank voting.
But I do hope your hulk explodes, you have earned it, truly. What? No... |

Jace Errata
Lawlz Brawlz
245
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Posted - 2012.08.08 06:42:00 -
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The hell is a "minning"? Stealth OST puns and blatant lies since 2009 Jace Errata on Twitter
One day they woke me up so I could live forever It's such a shame the same will never happen to you |

Frying Doom
Zat's Affiliated Traders
454
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Posted - 2012.08.08 06:42:00 -
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Smohq Anmirorz wrote:Frying Doom wrote:GordonO wrote:Montevius Williams wrote:What everyone else has said. Hulk is still a beast at pure mining. As a matter afact, it mines everything better than the other ships (Ice, Mercoxit) as well.
Wrong... A mack will out mine a Hulk when ice mining.. and a skiff is the best for mercoxit. they are bonused for it. Not after tonight the mack and skiff loose those bonuses. Tonight?? What happened to "we want to speed things up and deliver the following for winter."? Winter comes four months early this year. Well tonight my time so in just over 4 hours.
Yep patch that is about to happen alters the mining ships and quite a bit of other stuff.
And hell it is winter for me, so for once I get part of the winter expansion in winter  Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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