Cannot win without 2 boosters sitting in POS?

The forums and EFT are full of fits that are "meant for T3 boosts", that's an awesome sign of balanced gameplay. As a long time abuser of offgrid Loki boosts, I think the mechanic is ******* ********. You guys crying about how any change favors the blob are bad. In ye olde days proper nano gangs would have a Claymore in fleet and on grid AND they would still take on blobs.

The reality is off grid boosts punish new and/or poor players. They're bad, and you should feel bad. You bads.

I don't necessarily mind offgrid boosting in principal, nor do I mind that the boosts are significant. However, under no circumstances should you be able to activate booster modules from inside a pos forcefield, and under no circumstances should it require virtues and max skills to probe down a t3 booster. If someone is offgrid boosting, then they should be probably and killable. If you need virtues to scan down a ship, then even with virtues scanning them down will be slow. OGBs are expensive ships that take lots of skills to train, but the chatter seems to be that the payoff is huge and the risk is minimal. The question is then how to properly address OGBs ?

reduce boost range to 14.5 AU - I don't really like this idea. The benefit is that the proper use of OGBs would require a bit more thought, and anyone fighting you will be sure to know you've got an OGB.

increase sig radius or reduce sensor strength when activating a gang boost module - I really like this idea since you can turn off your boosts to avoid being scanned, but it would harm balance of on-grid booster ships, which would be unfortunate.

Further adjust scanning formula so that virtues are never a requirement - I prefer "hard to scan" over "impossible without virtues and max skills."

Also, I don't really like the idea of an offgrid booster bouncing safes while pursued by probers with his boosts staying active. Its easier to bounce safes than to chase a guy bouncing safes. The consolation is that the guy bouncing safes is useless, but if he's boosting at 100% effectiveness, then that's a problem. I don't know the best way to address this, I don't know if capacitor becomes a factor in maintaining boosts, or if warping short distances makes it easier for the probe guy to track you, just food for thought.

tl dr

problem is not ogb, problem is that your Loki works from 64 AU, but my Scorpion does not. We need ECM to get balanced!

The forums and EFT are full of fits that are "meant for T3 boosts", that's an awesome sign of balanced gameplay. As a long time abuser of offgrid Loki boosts, I think the mechanic is ******* ********. You guys crying about how any change favors the blob are bad. In ye olde days proper nano gangs would have a Claymore in fleet and on grid AND they would still take on blobs.

The reality is off grid boosts punish new and/or poor players. They're bad, and you should feel bad. You bads.

Does removal of OGB reduce that ability to take fights in the first place against a numerically superior force? Yes, definitely

You can't scan down a cloaked ship.

Currently off-grid boosting provides almost 0 risk and reams of benefits.

I to boost while cloaked come back when you have a clue

to make the t3 hard to scan takes full implant set and sig mods and even then they are not impossible to scan down just alot harder to

and all this crap about ogb in pos yea like we take a pos with us on roams lul

all these lazy and tight fisted players to useless and lasy to invest in they own ogb toon and just cry nurf your just as bad as the carbare crying for change

but wotevrt we who use ogb will adapt same as we allways have

what will be the next thing you pansys cry to nurf i wonder

also ppl claiming ogb is unfair on new or poorer players is bullsh#t just like hg slaves are unfair on poor or or low sp player or t2 ammo to low sp player or faction mods to poor player comon be real for the time invested and isk and r.l money ogb are fine

I am glad CCP Ytter and much of the CSM agree with my position.

to make the t3 hard to scan takes full implant set and sig mods and even then they are not impossible to scan down just alot harder to

IMO we should make ganglinks into passive modules so they can run while the ship is cloaked.

That would have the effect of letting you run booster t3s alongside your blops gangs AND it would make two entirely different sets of forum whiners cry epic tears and maybe even ragequit.

IMO we should make ganglinks into passive modules so they can run while the ship is cloaked.

That would have the effect of letting you run booster t3s alongside your blops gangs AND it would make two entirely different sets of forum whiners cry epic tears and maybe even ragequit.

Even better, have each booster t3 stack its bonuses, even if they're the same skill/module! that way whoever can afford the most booster alts wins! CCP will love it.

I don't really know why I keep paying to play this game.
I'm a casual player so I mostly fly around solo (I know... I shouldn't), but everytime I come to the forums, since 3 years ago.. all I read is:

"Get an account for scouting"
"Get an account for ewar"
"Get an account for boosting"
"Get an account for plexing"
"Get an account for etc..."

Even with an account of almost 3 years old, I feel pretty much a newb due to the limited time I have to play and learn the game, and I keep getting the feeling that no matter how I try, I'll allways be f******d by players with more RL cash to sink into this game.

EVE p2w much?

You can always give up, join a big corp and be the 27th irrelevant little noobie on the killmails when one of the players with 6 accounts lose a ship.

Translation: You can always work with others to achieve your goals more easily, and gain some friends and socialize at the same time, too.

Eve is not made to be a solo game -- particularly not in PvP. There is no development effort afforded to solo "balance"; almost everything is made with groups of people in mind. You are supposed to work with others, or be at a severe disadvantage. That disadvantage can be mitigated if you play with yourself by paying for a zillion alts (like Cynthia does).

There are 3 paths to PvP:

1. "True" solo, using only one account, and one character. This is fairly rare, due to its success rates being low. Very difficult, but not impossible.
2. "Solo", using multiple accounts/characters, but not usually directly collaborating with others. This is pretty common, particularly in areas where "true" solo PvPers may be found (due to the advantage it confers). Most pro~ PvPers fall into this category.
3. "Gang", using multiple people, possibly with multiple accounts (but not usually due to limited multitasking attention span). This is most common, and can be subdivided into "small gang", "large gang", "fleet", "sov warfare", "blob", etc., depending on various factors like the composition/size of the fleet, experience of the members, location where it is happening, and intended targets.

To be noted is that, while the setup of some fleets does diminish the role of the individual via excessive restrictions (discipline, selective ship choice, fleet commander anal-retentiveness), fleets managed correctly have no "irrelevant" members -- regardless of age or ship.

anyone who thinks offgrid boosting is "fine" and can be probed is not being serious... a t3 boosting alt flying aligned to a pos can be eventually probed, but a 20 sec warp is more than enough to relocate the alt, not to mention the ONLY thing that should be fitted in lows are stabs.

same with any other booster, align and warp as son as someone lands.

off grid boosting has to go, either make boosting on grid with a 150km - 200km range, or remove it and replace it with a more up close linking system with proper modifiers.