The difference in boosting strength is neglectable.
For comparison: The point range difference between loki and claymore links on an overheated rf point is 53.8->52.3.
The speed difference on an ab tengu is 2664->2613
what sells for the t3 option is indeed the bubble interdiction and the cloak, so you can simultanously use it as a scout, albeit still being in danger of losing a 500m+ ship to a gatecamp.
Removing command processor would make t3s not an option anymore. There is no balance between **** and not ****. Having only 1 link is a waste of a fleet boosting slot (no matter how big your fleet is, each member can only have up to 3 people boosting him).
People would switch from lokis to claymores but still have them offgrid, however they would need yet another alt account for scouting in a covops, after all who wants to use a main for scouting :)

Personally, i really dont see where all this hate is coming from. Sure some people use it to reduce the risk of dying and make 1on1s frustrating. Other people use 200km scorpions and orcas on a gate for their gatecamps. EVE isnt fair. Links allow small gangs to effectively dance around big gangs and pick off targets, but its not like there is no counter to that. Why do they have to suffer because someone felt betrayed when he lost his assault frigate in a 1on1 to a boosted frigate?

The only thing that should be able to off grid boost is a Roq.

Either get rid of off-grid boosters, or put them on killmails. Either way is fine with me.

Either get rid of off-grid boosters, or put them on killmails. Either way is fine with me.

I like that idea!! All miner kill mails should also include all other alts on that account, and destroy whatever ship those offline alts are currently in!!

Awesome idea!!

Let me guess. Your main's killboard is padded with off-grid boosts.

Let me guess. Your main's killboard is padded with off-grid boosts.

Meh don't see anything wrong with someone bring boosts to a fight just like there is nothing wrong with bring 1000 dudes to kill 1 guy.

For almost 3 years of using offgrid booster (around half of that time it was unprobeable) i never lost a single one. And the closest i get to lose one was when i forgot my alt on the gate while i was afk.

Honestly - if you know what are you doing, its almost impossible to lose, it requires almost 0 effort and it MASSIVELY boosts combat efficiency of whole your fleet.

This advantage you get is so big, that it should require significant effort, full attention and proper piloting of 1 person, not just occasional blinking on 1024x768 window somewhere in the corner of your screen.

The best thing ccp can do is remove offgrid boosting completely and limit the boosting range to 100-150k, possibly even less with "gangboosting range" role bonus for commands.

My main has CS V tqvm. And unless you're FCing, CS are bad to fly and i can tell you that from extensive experience. You are essentially following people around and whoring killmails. Scimitars (dude above) are awesome fun to fly.

To be honest I could just as easily duel box with an on grid ship and it wouldn't make any difference. It's just convenient for me to have my alt in the same corp is all. Inb4 omg neutral boosters nerf plox.

PS. You are all fags.

PPS. As for the tart above calling me a wanker. I will hand you your arse any day of the week mate. Hit me up in game.

its pretty much mostly the T3s effect on boosting thats made this a problem, very hard to scan, covops, bubble immune fits (with probes too somtimes).

Remove t3s ability to do this and we all go back to CS boosts, which by their nature require a safe spot, logistic help or a pos to do their thing. I dont see theres anything wrong for a defender or prepared attacker to make a safe place for a CS and thats EVE all over.

Just jumping into any system with your scout t3, warping to a planet making an ss, warp to ss and put on links/eccm - job done. FAR to easy.

CCP has nerfed offgrid pos boosters already they buffed barges and are introducing alchemy which in turn will drop dread prices. So pos boosters are nerfed all you have to do is organize yourselves but i guess whining on the forums is easier.

I have no idea how your are trying to swing barge boosts into this argument.... But yes. I agree that bringing a few dreads to kill the POS that that the offgrid booster is sitting in would work. At the same time though I have a totally competent leadership alt that has all relevant skills to 5 for a few hundred man fleet to gain boosts off of and never once have I thought "I'm just going to keep him off grid" . . . That is how pussies play. Offgrid boosting is the epitome of sad. Probers, ok. Boosters... eheh.

If you wants the boosts, put them on grid to be blown up just like everything else. If you are to scared to do that or to weak too then go back to WOW. Boosts should be on grid.

Post with your main please. Unless ofcourse this is your main and in which case i would say how could you have the experience needed to understand what offgrid boosts mean to small gang pvp? I understand you only have 32 kills and 60 or so losses but you really should understand where some other pvpers are coming from through experience and not just, I hate offgrid boosters cause they can't take damage!, be a man!"

Dude some of us like to pvp outnumbered, or at least like having the ability to compete in pvp outnumbered since we find ourselves outnumbered very often. It's what makes Eve fun, that adrenaline rush during pvp. Now if an offgrid booster gives my gang of 10 the edge it needs to engage a gang of 60 or 70 then how is that imbalaced? If anything it helps to put Eve pvp back into balance.

The blob won't always win because of raw numbers anymore. If you force those boosters ongrid, it won't last 20 seconds, we all know that, but what we are really talking about here is if the small gang can successfully engage the big gang then the big gang must have inexperience, low sp player, pvp'ers with no imagination or intuitive thinking to counter those boosts.

In either case I say learn the game from someone who has some experience and stop whining about mechanics that were put in place rightfully so by CCP to help balance small gang vs. big gang pvp.

Post with your main please. Unless ofcourse this is your main and in which case i would say how could you have the experience needed to understand what offgrid boosts mean to small gang pvp? I understand you only have 32 kills and 60 or so losses but you really should understand where some other pvpers are coming from through experience and not just, "I hate offgrid boosters cause they can't take damage!, be a man!"

Dude some of us like to pvp outnumbered, or at least like having the ability to compete in pvp outnumbered since we find ourselves outnumbered very often. It's what makes Eve fun, that adrenaline rush during pvp. Now if an offgrid booster gives my gang of 10 the edge it needs to engage a gang of 60 or 70 then how is that imbalaced? If anything it helps to put Eve pvp back into balance.

The blob won't always win because of raw numbers anymore. If you force those boosters ongrid, it won't last 20 seconds, we all know that, but what we are really talking about here is if the small gang can successfully engage the big gang then the big gang must have inexperience, low sp player, pvp'ers with no imagination or intuitive thinking to counter those boosts.

In either case I say learn the game from someone who has some experience and stop whining about mechanics that were put in place rightfully so by CCP to help balance small gang vs. big gang pvp.

I don't know all the ins and outs of boosting, but... wouldn't that big gang of 60-70 you like to fight ALSO have off-grid boosting? Thereby effectively canceling the edge?

I think they work as intended I see no reason to limit anything. Every gang has equal opportunity, but it comes down to being prepared.