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Syler Puuntai
Nomadic Asylum
Still Censored
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Posted - 2012.08.10 21:38:00 -
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Renan Ruivo wrote:Yes to replacing bounties with tags.
No to NPC tag buy orders
No to removing LP payouts from FW.
This would actually help with the faction module/ship market. A lot.
it depends on what you mean by helping that market. If your talking about it from a buyers standpoint then yes. Since it will flood the market with tags making items cheaper. If your a seller then no, since it will reduce profit if you collect the tags yourself.
Adding NPC buy orders would be bad, at least from some of the original reasonings for this system. Since it still injects isk into the market out of thin air. It just creates a extra burden without actually solving the underlining problem.
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Renan Ruivo
Irmandade
Vera Cruz Alliance
845
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Posted - 2012.08.10 23:17:00 -
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Syler Puuntai wrote:Renan Ruivo wrote:Yes to replacing bounties with tags.
No to NPC tag buy orders
No to removing LP payouts from FW.
This would actually help with the faction module/ship market. A lot. it depends on what you mean by helping that market. If your talking about it from a buyers standpoint then yes. Since it will flood the market with tags making items cheaper. If your a seller then no, since it will reduce profit if you collect the tags yourself. Adding NPC buy orders would be bad, at least from some of the original reasonings for this system. Since it still injects isk into the market out of thin air. It just creates a extra burden without actually solving the underlining problem.
It depends. I'm a faction item seller, and acquiring the tags is a big part of the investment. LP is another part of that investment, and to get LP i need to kill rats. I also do the salvage, so if i got the tags from the rats that i had killed, it might lower the costs of buying the tags from the market.
So actually, i guess, i'd suggest replacing bounties with LP. Bounties generate ISK out of thin air, and LP generate itens that can be destroyed.
The world is a community of idiots doing a series of things until it explodes and we all die. |
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
275
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Posted - 2012.08.10 23:42:00 -
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Renan Ruivo wrote:Syler Puuntai wrote:Renan Ruivo wrote:Yes to replacing bounties with tags.
No to NPC tag buy orders
No to removing LP payouts from FW.
This would actually help with the faction module/ship market. A lot. it depends on what you mean by helping that market. If your talking about it from a buyers standpoint then yes. Since it will flood the market with tags making items cheaper. If your a seller then no, since it will reduce profit if you collect the tags yourself. Adding NPC buy orders would be bad, at least from some of the original reasonings for this system. Since it still injects isk into the market out of thin air. It just creates a extra burden without actually solving the underlining problem. It depends. I'm a faction item seller, and acquiring the tags is a big part of the investment. LP is another part of that investment, and to get LP i need to kill rats. I also do the salvage, so if i got the tags from the rats that i had killed, it might lower the costs of buying the tags from the market. So actually, i guess, i'd suggest replacing bounties with LP. Bounties generate ISK out of thin air, and LP generate itens that can be destroyed.
That doesn't help the LP item market though as it makes LP accrue faster and thus devalues it. |
Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
137
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Posted - 2012.08.11 00:18:00 -
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Yeah looting, there's a stimulating game mechanic. 
~ Professional Forum Alt -á~ |
Syler Puuntai
Nomadic Asylum
Still Censored
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Posted - 2012.08.11 00:22:00 -
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Sentamon wrote:Yeah looting, there's a stimulating game mechanic.
Its like christmas with every rat you kill. However the discussion of loot isn't about stimulating game play, its more about curbing the trillions of isk bounties inject into the economy.
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Renan Ruivo
Irmandade
Vera Cruz Alliance
845
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Posted - 2012.08.11 00:22:00 -
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Tyberius Franklin wrote:Renan Ruivo wrote:Syler Puuntai wrote:Renan Ruivo wrote:Yes to replacing bounties with tags.
No to NPC tag buy orders
No to removing LP payouts from FW.
This would actually help with the faction module/ship market. A lot. it depends on what you mean by helping that market. If your talking about it from a buyers standpoint then yes. Since it will flood the market with tags making items cheaper. If your a seller then no, since it will reduce profit if you collect the tags yourself. Adding NPC buy orders would be bad, at least from some of the original reasonings for this system. Since it still injects isk into the market out of thin air. It just creates a extra burden without actually solving the underlining problem. It depends. I'm a faction item seller, and acquiring the tags is a big part of the investment. LP is another part of that investment, and to get LP i need to kill rats. I also do the salvage, so if i got the tags from the rats that i had killed, it might lower the costs of buying the tags from the market. So actually, i guess, i'd suggest replacing bounties with LP. Bounties generate ISK out of thin air, and LP generate itens that can be destroyed. That doesn't help the LP item market though as it makes LP accrue faster and thus devalues it.
Suggesting that they replace bounties with LP is a high-level suggestion. Of course that things like not ******* up the LP stores would have to be considered.
For instance, if now theres more LP being distributed, then make itens cost more LP. Its not an easy change, and sacrifices will have to be made. But i know that they are not affraid of upseting the status-quo.
The world is a community of idiots doing a series of things until it explodes and we all die. |
Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
137
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Posted - 2012.08.11 00:27:00 -
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Syler Puuntai wrote:Sentamon wrote:Yeah looting, there's a stimulating game mechanic. Its like christmas with every rat you kill. However the discussion of loot isn't about stimulating game play, its more about curbing the trillions of isk bounties inject into the economy.
Boring people into quitting will defiantly do that.
~ Professional Forum Alt -á~ |
Syler Puuntai
Nomadic Asylum
Still Censored
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Posted - 2012.08.11 00:30:00 -
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Sentamon wrote:Syler Puuntai wrote:Sentamon wrote:Yeah looting, there's a stimulating game mechanic. Its like christmas with every rat you kill. However the discussion of loot isn't about stimulating game play, its more about curbing the trillions of isk bounties inject into the economy. Boring people into quitting will defiantly do that.
Thats pretty much what PvE already does, so I don't see the issue.
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Shameless Avenger
Can Preachers of Kador
448
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Posted - 2012.08.11 00:32:00 -
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Syler Puuntai wrote:
Drone regions where one of the wealthiest and productive groups when it comes to being self sustainable and production ability.
AKA... it was carebear heaven. That's what we want? More null regions full of occators and manufacturing arrays? Where carriers are only deployed to bring BPOs from empire?
"This is the Ninja. He will scan you down; he will salvage your wrecks and there shall be no aggro" |
Syler Puuntai
Nomadic Asylum
Still Censored
3
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Posted - 2012.08.11 00:36:00 -
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Shameless Avenger wrote:Syler Puuntai wrote:
Drone regions where one of the wealthiest and productive groups when it comes to being self sustainable and production ability.
AKA... it was carebear heaven. That's what we want? More null regions full of occators and manufacturing arrays? Where carriers are only deployed to bring BPOs from empire?
More bears=more targets.
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Hiyora Akachi
Bling Ring Tax Evaders
97
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Posted - 2012.08.11 00:42:00 -
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Posting again in a blatant "Play EvE my way or leave" thread. |
Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
137
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Posted - 2012.08.11 00:53:00 -
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Guess who loves looting? yeah BOTS and bot writers.
How about just don't AFK for 24 hours straight and leave the casual players be.
~ Professional Forum Alt -á~ |
Syler Puuntai
Nomadic Asylum
Still Censored
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Posted - 2012.08.11 00:55:00 -
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Sentamon wrote:Guess who loves looting? yeah BOTS and bot writers.
Now your just getting lazy. Did you even think that one through? |
Soundwave Plays Diablo
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
102
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Posted - 2012.08.11 01:47:00 -
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If AFK'ers bother you then you have no soul.
/therad |
Jonah Gravenstein
725
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Posted - 2012.08.11 01:52:00 -
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Soundwave Plays Diablo wrote:If AFK'ers bother you then you have no soul.
/therad
Do you wear the hood because you are in fact a ginger?
War hasn't been fought this badly since Olaf the Hairy, High Chief of all the Vikings, accidentally ordered 80,000 battle helmets with the horns on the inside. |
Soundwave Plays Diablo
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
102
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Posted - 2012.08.11 01:55:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Soundwave Plays Diablo wrote:If AFK'ers bother you then you have no soul.
/therad Do you wear the hood because you are in fact a ginger? 
So no one will know that I am in fact Soundwave.
Who is a ginger.
So technically, yes. |
Jonah Gravenstein
725
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Posted - 2012.08.11 01:58:00 -
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Soundwave Plays Diablo wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Soundwave Plays Diablo wrote:If AFK'ers bother you then you have no soul.
/therad Do you wear the hood because you are in fact a ginger? So no one will know that I am in fact Soundwave. Who is a ginger. So technically, yes.
lol well played sir, nice rebuttal
War hasn't been fought this badly since Olaf the Hairy, High Chief of all the Vikings, accidentally ordered 80,000 battle helmets with the horns on the inside. |
Denidil
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
451
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Posted - 2012.08.11 02:27:00 -
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OP: Your post is bad, and you should feel bad.
If you don't see a problem in 0.0 eroding into two big super-coalitions and a few hangers on in areas nobody cares about.. then you don't have brains. |
Herping yourDerp
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
636
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Posted - 2012.08.11 03:14:00 -
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Roime wrote:Yes,
Combine this with rat AI revamp and the removal of L4s from hisec, and EVE economy is back on track again.
no you are an idiot it has been said before, nerf missions LESS people will go to low or nullsec. get over yourself you are a moron.
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Flamewave
Crimson Moon Society
24
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Posted - 2012.08.11 05:12:00 -
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Step in the right direction, however one flaw:
Roime wrote:Replace all NPC bounties with lootable tags, that can be sold to NPC buy orders.
NPC buy orders are an isk faucet and therefore this won't dent inflation. If, instead of tags, the rats dropped items useful to other players, no isk would enter the system and mission runners might actually stop being worthless for once. Though the only issue with this is any item(s) the rats were to drop in place of tags would drive down the market value of whatever it is they would now drop (as was the case of the drone regions) unless they were to drop something entirely new, in which case whole new chunks of game design would need to be implemented to make the items have value to other players.
Reverse engineering faction modules maybe? Who knows, the options are plentiful. 
Some things ISK can't buy. For everything else, there's Jita.
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Lady Aja
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Posted - 2012.08.11 05:25:00 -
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Shameless Avenger wrote:gobbybobby wrote:Shameless Avenger wrote:No why not? Explain? You want to replace all bounties with NPC tags that need to be looted. Do you have any idea how long it takes to loot a field on a slow battleship? With one wreck 90km away, flying at 25O, that's 6 minutes just to fly to ONE wreck. And you want to keep people from going AFK?
that's such a load of bullshit.
noctis..
where is my ability to link a sig properly CCP you munters!! |
Goremageddon Box
Guerrilla Flotilla
467
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Posted - 2012.08.11 05:36:00 -
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Lady Aja wrote:Shameless Avenger wrote:gobbybobby wrote:Shameless Avenger wrote:No why not? Explain? You want to replace all bounties with NPC tags that need to be looted. Do you have any idea how long it takes to loot a field on a slow battleship? With one wreck 90km away, flying at 25O, that's 6 minutes just to fly to ONE wreck. And you want to keep people from going AFK? that's such a load of bullshit. noctis..
No. Cant spell noctis without no. |
marVLs
31
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Posted - 2012.08.11 05:49:00 -
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Let's see... |
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