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Ash Donai
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Posted - 2010.12.10 05:40:00 -
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Originally by: riverini THIS HOWEVER IS KILLING THE GAME for honest ppl who play the game as they should
Confirming that after 7 years in the running the game has been killed by RMTers!
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captain foivos
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Posted - 2010.12.10 06:56:00 -
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PEW PEW PEW
Originally by: CCP Zulu You're assuming I read threads before I turdpost in them :)
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Musashi IV
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Posted - 2010.12.10 11:20:00 -
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CCP stop the use of macros!!
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Trupo Baptista
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Posted - 2010.12.10 12:13:00 -
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Edited by: Trupo Baptista on 10/12/2010 12:13:19 Any reply to this anywhere? Or will it just be ignored.
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Ganagati
Caldari Zebra Corp
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Posted - 2010.12.10 13:57:00 -
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Edited by: Ganagati on 10/12/2010 13:57:53 This is what I love about MMO communities. People whine. They complain. They *****. They DEMAND (they are OWED/ENTITLED) action.
Fair enough. What action? They've been doing their best effort to spot using limited resources the botters and it seems to no avail.
So, is that it then? Do they throw in the towel. Well, that's up to you. You want to whine? Want to *****? Ok: I have your answer then- the answer Blizzard came up with and the only answer an MMO can truly turn to when all else fails.
Please go look up the Warden Client
If you cannot catch botters when you have limited resources, expand your resources. And do you know how the players react when they get what they have been so begging for?
They'll whine. They'll complain. They'll *****. They'll DEMAND (they are OWED/ENTITLED) that it is removed. And do you know what CCP will get for all their effort? 2,000+ subscriptions lost from the botters and the exact same number of angry players as before.
Yep, I can see why they are chomping at the bit to fix this.
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betty drunkenlord
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Posted - 2010.12.10 14:15:00 -
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Originally by: Ganagati Edited by: Ganagati on 10/12/2010 13:57:53 This is what I love about MMO communities. People whine. They complain. They *****. They DEMAND (they are OWED/ENTITLED) action.
Fair enough. What action? They've been doing their best effort to spot using limited resources the botters and it seems to no avail.
So, is that it then? Do they throw in the towel. Well, that's up to you. You want to whine? Want to *****? Ok: I have your answer then- the answer Blizzard came up with and the only answer an MMO can truly turn to when all else fails.
Please go look up the Warden Client
If you cannot catch botters when you have limited resources, expand your resources. And do you know how the players react when they get what they have been so begging for?
They'll whine. They'll complain. They'll *****. They'll DEMAND (they are OWED/ENTITLED) that it is removed. And do you know what CCP will get for all their effort? 2,000+ subscriptions lost from the botters and the exact same number of angry players as before.
Yep, I can see why they are chomping at the bit to fix this.
Yes, whining [constructively] is the reason of most of mankind development. It is also the reason of all great things that got developed in Eve. So in this aspect whining is good. Whining with the purpose to make game better, more enjoyable and fun. As for subscriptions no worries, since bots subscriptions will be replaced by players reactivating their abandoned alts and ex-players disgusted with bots returning to game there will be no substantial loss for CCP in the long run, inversely, CCP will make more dough with employing everything in its power to cut off botters.
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TriadSte
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.12.10 14:29:00 -
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My thing is this:
Whats MORE illegal [ lol ]
People using other peoples chars like alliances do [ alot ]
or
Macro users?
I ask which is more illegal because, chars get banned pretty much all the time because of other people logging in with that char.
But
Macro users DO NOT
CCP you are making yourself look uber noob for this? Go out of the box and look inside like we do and you'll see.
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Ganagati
Caldari Zebra Corp
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Posted - 2010.12.10 14:30:00 -
[218]
Edited by: Ganagati on 10/12/2010 14:32:48
Originally by: betty drunkenlord
Originally by: Ganagati Edited by: Ganagati on 10/12/2010 13:57:53 This is what I love about MMO communities. People whine. They complain. They *****. They DEMAND (they are OWED/ENTITLED) action.
Fair enough. What action? They've been doing their best effort to spot using limited resources the botters and it seems to no avail.
So, is that it then? Do they throw in the towel. Well, that's up to you. You want to whine? Want to *****? Ok: I have your answer then- the answer Blizzard came up with and the only answer an MMO can truly turn to when all else fails.
Please go look up the Warden Client
If you cannot catch botters when you have limited resources, expand your resources. And do you know how the players react when they get what they have been so begging for?
They'll whine. They'll complain. They'll *****. They'll DEMAND (they are OWED/ENTITLED) that it is removed. And do you know what CCP will get for all their effort? 2,000+ subscriptions lost from the botters and the exact same number of angry players as before.
Yep, I can see why they are chomping at the bit to fix this.
Yes, whining [constructively] is the reason of most of mankind development. It is also the reason of all great things that got developed in Eve. So in this aspect whining is good. Whining with the purpose to make game better, more enjoyable and fun. As for subscriptions no worries, since bots subscriptions will be replaced by players reactivating their abandoned alts and ex-players disgusted with bots returning to game there will be no substantial loss for CCP in the long run, inversely, CCP will make more dough with employing everything in its power to cut off botters.
Yes, but what will the cost to us be to remove those botters? The only surefire method to remove bots is yet more client spyware like Warden.
CCP has been doing the best they can with limited resources. Obviously, most of you feel that isn't good enough. I'm asking: are you ok with what the next logical step would be? As in, expanding their resources.
Originally by: TriadSte
I ask which is more illegal because, chars get banned pretty much all the time because of other people logging in with that char.
But
Macro users DO NOT
CCP you are making yourself look uber noob for this? Go out of the box and look inside like we do and you'll see.
This I can answer. As someone familiar with these sort of mechanics- atm it is far simpler for them to CATCH people sharing accounts than catching macroers. It isn't like they look at 2 accounts and say "hey, this guy is macroing and this guy is switching toons... lets ban the toon sharer."
With macro mining, since they have no software options in place, they must rely purely on watching the character, player reports, and things like that. For someone sharing an account, it is pretty easy to notice that someone logs in regularly from Georgia USA and then suddenly appears in Illinois USA 3 hours later... only to reappear in Georgia USA within an hour of that. Shy of teleportation, it isn't possible. But setting up systems to alert them of this IS very simple.
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Aelius
Caldari Mnemonic Enterprises
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Posted - 2010.12.10 14:31:00 -
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If i get elected to the CSM this matter will have my maximum priority. _________________________ CSM Candidate for 2011 (soon a pretty photoshop sig) Aelius 2011 Candidacy Guide Lines |
Bhattran
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Posted - 2010.12.10 14:32:00 -
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Originally by: Ganagati Edited by: Ganagati on 10/12/2010 13:57:53 This is what I love about MMO communities. People whine. They complain. They *****. They DEMAND (they are OWED/ENTITLED) action.
Fair enough. What action? They've been doing their best effort to spot using limited resources the botters and it seems to no avail.
So, is that it then? Do they throw in the towel. Well, that's up to you. You want to whine? Want to *****? Ok: I have your answer then- the answer Blizzard came up with and the only answer an MMO can truly turn to when all else fails.
Please go look up the Warden Client
If you cannot catch botters when you have limited resources, expand your resources. And do you know how the players react when they get what they have been so begging for?
They'll whine. They'll complain. They'll *****. They'll DEMAND (they are OWED/ENTITLED) that it is removed. And do you know what CCP will get for all their effort? 2,000+ subscriptions lost from the botters and the exact same number of angry players as before.
Yep, I can see why they are chomping at the bit to fix this.
Indeed, because obviously the only way to make sure their client isn't being modified is to violate the user's machine and scan out what is being run, and interfere with it, instead of say securing their client and making it aware of when IT has been compromised. The difference between putting cameras outside your house to watch if your neighbor steps on your lawn, while also seeing into their yard, and shooting their dog cause he could take a dump on your flowers OR putting up a fence along with cameras that only have a view of your property.
--WIS/Incarna/Ambulation where microtransactions come to play, and uh bars.-- |
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Mashie Saldana
Minmatar Veto Corp
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Posted - 2010.12.10 14:35:00 -
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With unlimited ISK from botters the risk vs revard that EVE is famous for is going down the drain.
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Ganagati
Caldari Zebra Corp
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Posted - 2010.12.10 14:35:00 -
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Originally by: Bhattran
Originally by: Ganagati Edited by: Ganagati on 10/12/2010 13:57:53 This is what I love about MMO communities. People whine. They complain. They *****. They DEMAND (they are OWED/ENTITLED) action.
Fair enough. What action? They've been doing their best effort to spot using limited resources the botters and it seems to no avail.
So, is that it then? Do they throw in the towel. Well, that's up to you. You want to whine? Want to *****? Ok: I have your answer then- the answer Blizzard came up with and the only answer an MMO can truly turn to when all else fails.
Please go look up the Warden Client
If you cannot catch botters when you have limited resources, expand your resources. And do you know how the players react when they get what they have been so begging for?
They'll whine. They'll complain. They'll *****. They'll DEMAND (they are OWED/ENTITLED) that it is removed. And do you know what CCP will get for all their effort? 2,000+ subscriptions lost from the botters and the exact same number of angry players as before.
Yep, I can see why they are chomping at the bit to fix this.
Indeed, because obviously the only way to make sure their client isn't being modified is to violate the user's machine and scan out what is being run, and interfere with it, instead of say securing their client and making it aware of when IT has been compromised. The difference between putting cameras outside your house to watch if your neighbor steps on your lawn, while also seeing into their yard, and shooting their dog cause he could take a dump on your flowers OR putting up a fence along with cameras that only have a view of your property.
An example of how this could work? Besides the theoretical "They should figure out how to do it. I'm sure it's easy!". Bots use the same mechanics game clients do to send commands to them. When those commands appear at CCPs servers, it looks no different and is completely indistinguishable from a normal player sending information. At no point do botters crack into CCP's servers. So, I look forward to hearing how they could do this. You have no idea how many lives you would make easier in doing so... and that last line isn't sarcasm.
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betty drunkenlord
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Posted - 2010.12.10 14:42:00 -
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I think CCP might be working on its version of warden atm. They might just announce it post factum after they clean up majority of bots doing unholy rage 2. I think it's important to fight botters on every field:
1) removing their technical capabilities (warden) 2) removing moral support for software they are selling (thus inducing players which couldn't distinguish clearly whether it's good or not to use the program) 3) removing income incentive for RMTers - creating plex was a very good step, I think there could be very interesting discussion how to remove it further.
What I would like to see is to support no2) in other words a clear communication that it's illegal to use bots, that they cut player base growth prospects for ccp etc. so this could be copy pasted in other forums, heck even bot forums. In efffect they wouldn't get away with a statement that ccp really likes bots because they fuel the eve economy and all that crap...
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Ganagati
Caldari Zebra Corp
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Posted - 2010.12.10 14:44:00 -
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Originally by: betty drunkenlord I think CCP might be working on its version of warden atm. They might just announce it post factum after they clean up majority of bots doing unholy rage 2. I think it's important to fight botters on every field:
1) removing their technical capabilities (warden) 2) removing moral support for software they are selling (thus inducing players which couldn't distinguish clearly whether it's good or not to use the program) 3) removing income incentive for RMTers - creating plex was a very good step, I think there could be very interesting discussion how to remove it further.
What I would like to see is to support no2) in other words a clear communication that it's illegal to use bots, that they cut player base growth prospects for ccp etc. so this could be copy pasted in other forums, heck even bot forums. In efffect they wouldn't get away with a statement that ccp really likes bots because they fuel the eve economy and all that crap...
1 I dread. 3 sounds fun but I'm biased as I'm a pretty big supporter of PLEX. 2 I don't really get, but it sounds better than 1 so I'm all for it. =D
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Jaqel Broadside
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Posted - 2010.12.10 14:48:00 -
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Originally by: Ganagati Edited by: Ganagati on 10/12/2010 13:57:53 This is what I love about MMO communities. People whine. They complain. They *****. They DEMAND (they are OWED/ENTITLED) action.
Fair enough. What action? They've been doing their best effort to spot using limited resources the botters and it seems to no avail.
So, is that it then? Do they throw in the towel. Well, that's up to you. You want to whine? Want to *****? Ok: I have your answer then- the answer Blizzard came up with and the only answer an MMO can truly turn to when all else fails.
Please go look up the Warden Client
If you cannot catch botters when you have limited resources, expand your resources. And do you know how the players react when they get what they have been so begging for?
They'll whine. They'll complain. They'll *****. They'll DEMAND (they are OWED/ENTITLED) that it is removed. And do you know what CCP will get for all their effort? 2,000+ subscriptions lost from the botters and the exact same number of angry players as before.
Yep, I can see why they are chomping at the bit to fix this.
Really ? They can't spot the botters ? Limited resources ? What a load of utter crap - never read such a load of utter complete crap in my life.
Exploit the mechanic of bots being linear in how they work -> store the results -> query and delete accounts. Trace the ISK transfers of the accounts -> store the results -> delete the accounts.
Any programmer could do this kind of task in a few days including implementation. The database update would take a few minutes at most.
I agree with you in part CCP DONT WANT TO FIX THE PROBLEM.
Why ?
Simple all of Null Sec would be exposed as a complete sack of s**t,,, the only reason they allow it to continue is the press generated from the ever increased size of battles being funded by botters and the bad publicity if the whole pack of cards crumbled and turned into what was humanly possible.
Revenue streams would be way, way higher if it was known that new players could actually make their way in the game as there would actually be a point in playing the game.
What REALLY, REALLY annoys me is that over the years more and more features have put into the baby of null sec, vast amounts of developers time and at the same time high sec has been nerfed year after year.
The net result ?
Resources are hogged in nullsec forcing those in highsec to play more or PAY MORE REAL LIFE CASH.
And what's worse ?
PvP corps and griefers paid for by botting accounts !
Not only is the high sec income reduced by botters the ISK is being used to destroy game play of the very people who pay for their services.
CCP you suck.
And what do we get ? New Christmas present of learning skills being removed - on face value a good thing,, great 8)
Hold on,, wont that mean you can now create a new botter account that much quicker ? Won't it also mean any passive earning accounts like PI can also be raised quicker.
Just another in a long line of dumbing down excercises dressed up as improvements but actually destroying peoples ISK earning potential specifcally targetted at those who actually pay for their accounts.
Cheers CCP thanks for making matters worse over the years.
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knobber Jobbler
Executive Intervention Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2010.12.10 15:05:00 -
[226]
Has CCP made a statement about this yet?
Looks like CCP is inviting people to break the EULA.
Really disappointed with CCP over this. The other stuff with lag and bad priorities I can sit by and watch but this is ****ing daft.
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betty drunkenlord
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Posted - 2010.12.10 15:05:00 -
[227]
Originally by: Jaqel Broadside
Originally by: Ganagati Edited by: Ganagati on 10/12/2010 13:57:53 This is what I love about MMO communities. People whine. They complain. They *****. They DEMAND (they are OWED/ENTITLED) action.
Fair enough. What action? They've been doing their best effort to spot using limited resources the botters and it seems to no avail.
So, is that it then? Do they throw in the towel. Well, that's up to you. You want to whine? Want to *****? Ok: I have your answer then- the answer Blizzard came up with and the only answer an MMO can truly turn to when all else fails.
Please go look up the Warden Client
If you cannot catch botters when you have limited resources, expand your resources. And do you know how the players react when they get what they have been so begging for?
They'll whine. They'll complain. They'll *****. They'll DEMAND (they are OWED/ENTITLED) that it is removed. And do you know what CCP will get for all their effort? 2,000+ subscriptions lost from the botters and the exact same number of angry players as before.
Yep, I can see why they are chomping at the bit to fix this.
Really ? They can't spot the botters ? Limited resources ? What a load of utter crap - never read such a load of utter complete crap in my life.
Exploit the mechanic of bots being linear in how they work -> store the results -> query and delete accounts. Trace the ISK transfers of the accounts -> store the results -> delete the accounts.
Any programmer could do this kind of task in a few days including implementation. The database update would take a few minutes at most.
I agree with you in part CCP DONT WANT TO FIX THE PROBLEM.
Why ?
Simple all of Null Sec would be exposed as a complete sack of s**t,,, the only reason they allow it to continue is the press generated from the ever increased size of battles being funded by botters and the bad publicity if the whole pack of cards crumbled and turned into what was humanly possible.
Revenue streams would be way, way higher if it was known that new players could actually make their way in the game as there would actually be a point in playing the game.
What REALLY, REALLY annoys me is that over the years more and more features have put into the baby of null sec, vast amounts of developers time and at the same time high sec has been nerfed year after year.
The net result ?
Resources are hogged in nullsec forcing those in highsec to play more or PAY MORE REAL LIFE CASH.
And what's worse ?
PvP corps and griefers paid for by botting accounts !
Not only is the high sec income reduced by botters the ISK is being used to destroy game play of the very people who pay for their services.
CCP you suck.
And what do we get ? New Christmas present of learning skills being removed - on face value a good thing,, great 8)
Hold on,, wont that mean you can now create a new botter account that much quicker ? Won't it also mean any passive earning accounts like PI can also be raised quicker.
Just another in a long line of dumbing down excercises dressed up as improvements but actually destroying peoples ISK earning potential specifcally targetted at those who actually pay for their accounts.
Cheers CCP thanks for making matters worse over the years.
Actually removing learning skills along with 1.6mil 100% learning bonus will increase time to make new botters (vide comparison of times needed to train for a drake widely used with hbot).
what I would like to know is whether highsec lvl5s were abused by bots (presumably no because scripting lvl4s would give more isk per account in the same time).
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ILikeMarkets
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Posted - 2010.12.10 15:21:00 -
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Edited by: ILikeMarkets on 10/12/2010 15:21:21
Originally by: Jaqel Broadside
Originally by: Ganagati Edited by: Ganagati on 10/12/2010 13:57:53 This is what I love about MMO communities. People whine. They complain. They *****. They DEMAND (they are OWED/ENTITLED) action.
Fair enough. What action? They've been doing their best effort to spot using limited resources the botters and it seems to no avail.
So, is that it then? Do they throw in the towel. Well, that's up to you. You want to whine? Want to *****? Ok: I have your answer then- the answer Blizzard came up with and the only answer an MMO can truly turn to when all else fails.
Please go look up the Warden Client
If you cannot catch botters when you have limited resources, expand your resources. And do you know how the players react when they get what they have been so begging for?
They'll whine. They'll complain. They'll *****. They'll DEMAND (they are OWED/ENTITLED) that it is removed. And do you know what CCP will get for all their effort? 2,000+ subscriptions lost from the botters and the exact same number of angry players as before.
Yep, I can see why they are chomping at the bit to fix this.
Really ? They can't spot the botters ? Limited resources ? What a load of utter crap - never read such a load of utter complete crap in my life.
Exploit the mechanic of bots being linear in how they work -> store the results -> query and delete accounts. Trace the ISK transfers of the accounts -> store the results -> delete the accounts.
Any programmer could do this kind of task in a few days including implementation. The database update would take a few minutes at most.
I agree with you in part CCP DONT WANT TO FIX THE PROBLEM.
Why ?
Simple all of Null Sec would be exposed as a complete sack of s**t,,, the only reason they allow it to continue is the press generated from the ever increased size of battles being funded by botters and the bad publicity if the whole pack of cards crumbled and turned into what was humanly possible.
Revenue streams would be way, way higher if it was known that new players could actually make their way in the game as there would actually be a point in playing the game.
What REALLY, REALLY annoys me is that over the years more and more features have put into the baby of null sec, vast amounts of developers time and at the same time high sec has been nerfed year after year.
The net result ?
Resources are hogged in nullsec forcing those in highsec to play more or PAY MORE REAL LIFE CASH.
And what's worse ?
PvP corps and griefers paid for by botting accounts !
Not only is the high sec income reduced by botters the ISK is being used to destroy game play of the very people who pay for their services.
CCP you suck.
And what do we get ? New Christmas present of learning skills being removed - on face value a good thing,, great 8)
Hold on,, wont that mean you can now create a new botter account that much quicker ? Won't it also mean any passive earning accounts like PI can also be raised quicker.
Just another in a long line of dumbing down excercises dressed up as improvements but actually destroying peoples ISK earning potential specifcally targetted at those who actually pay for their accounts.
Cheers CCP thanks for making matters worse over the years.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAOxY_nHdew
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Bractorlion
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Posted - 2010.12.10 15:30:00 -
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I understand this is a problem, but I can't respect any post with caps, "haz" and grammar errors. |
Per Bastet
Amarr B.O.O.M Obsidian Mining Coalition
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Posted - 2010.12.10 15:31:00 -
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I have one Simple question - Why has CCP not even Posted a Yes we have Read this Thread Post? Or even a Post Stating that they are Now Aware how the Bots are Working and Will take Steps to prevent it?
WHY HAS THERE BEEN NO RESPONSE FROM CCP ON THIS THREAD? --
Bastet's Organization Of Mining |
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Kalle Demos
Amarr Hysteria Nexus
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Posted - 2010.12.10 16:17:00 -
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Do what they do on travian, when a person is suspected of botting they alone receive a captcha or whatever those things are called.
It is bloody effective how it works, no one gets banned but obvious automated stuff gets a captcha, if botters wish to be singled out then so be it.
People created new bots and **** but it has really turned into a nice system how they get the info on how the bot works put it in their anti bot system, so botters are always constantly having to update their program making it very difficult or inefficient to bot.
WOW has a [Teleport Botter] system to tackle botters, where known botters are typically teleported, there is a lot of ways to counter botters without damaging income or affect other players.
You should also hear some of the whines the bots use on travian, they will get a captcha and complain about it 12 hours later,
"Hi the reason I am complaining now is because when the captcha happened I decided to log off without bothering to fill it in"
"I am not a bot, the only reason I didnt bother filling in the captcha was because my computer crashed"
They measure the time it takes to respond to the captcha too and from their reports not a single bot has effectively replied, unfortunately their anti botting system requires you to be playing for 3 hours before it can recognise if you are a bot or not, but 3 hours is fine for eve imo.
Browser game has a better anti-botter program than eve
Originally by: Kool StoryBro <---
Originally by: CCP Spitfire Spam post removed.
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Cyaxares II
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Posted - 2010.12.10 16:21:00 -
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Edited by: Cyaxares II on 10/12/2010 16:23:53
Originally by: Per Bastet I have one Simple question - Why has CCP not even Posted a Yes we have Read this Thread Post? Or even a Post Stating that they are Now Aware how the Bots are Working and Will take Steps to prevent it?
Because they have been aware of how bots work all the time and nothing has really changed during the last few months?
Because as of now this issue has not yet reached threadnaught status despite a massive "public awareness" campaign by Horus/Czech Lion (I think Akita's "Let's get rid of Dr. EyjoG" thread had more posts/support than this "Get rid of bots/RMT" campaign).
Because it's really hard to decide what steps CCP could take that wouldn't have the potential to backfire massively (Warden/Punkbuster like tools are "spyware", legit miners might get angry if they can't mine semi-afk anymore, removal of bots might have very undesirable effects on the in-game economy, maybe we're already at the point at which the numbers of bots is so high that CCP cannot really afford to lose that customer segment, ... and a thousand other plausible reasons).
To play WoW (or most other games) you have to be on keyboard all the time - when I doing mining or mission running in EVE, I am usually tabbed out (or do other stuff like laundry, dishes, ...) 80% of the time. Requiring captchas, mini-games, ... would make EVE require a lot more attention and by far not all players would like that.
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Vitamin B12
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Posted - 2010.12.10 16:52:00 -
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Originally by: Aelius If i get elected to the CSM this matter will have my maximum priority.
thats the sad part of this. maybe ccp should focus on the 0.0 ratting mechanic. it looks like most of the bots do this...
[joke] only a maximum of 10% play in 0.0 . remove it and the bots are away :) 90% of playerbase is happy. [/joke] ---
Corporations for Highsec pos anchoring. Only a fee of 75 Million ISK. *click* |
Jaqel Broadside
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Posted - 2010.12.10 17:04:00 -
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Originally by: Cyaxares II
To play WoW (or most other games) you have to be on keyboard all the time - when I doing mining or mission running in EVE, I am usually tabbed out (or do other stuff like laundry, dishes, ...) 80% of the time. Requiring captchas, mini-games, ... would make EVE require a lot more attention and by far not all players would like that.
Laundry does not take 80% of your time.
Most players who pay for their subscriptions will not accept botters of ANY description, WHATEVER the excuse.
If some players are upset at having to "interact" with the game then it's best they don't play a game that requires interaction.
Perhaps watching paint dry is more your forte ?
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Kalle Demos
Amarr Hysteria Nexus
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Posted - 2010.12.10 17:23:00 -
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Originally by: Cyaxares II words
Did you miss the part where I said this only affects bot like behaviour, if you are tabbed out this WONT affect you?
How the hell do you manage todo a combat mission and do laundry & dishes anyway, besides I said this should affect ratting / mining bots
So if you are copying identical stuff as a bot, then you deserve to get a captcha, if you are doing the dishes a captcha wont appear because well you will be in game doing nothing, if you are doing the dishes and somehow magically mine at the same time I think you would deserve a captcha.
As far as I have seen, the anti-botting protocols used have been really effective
Originally by: Kool StoryBro <---
Originally by: CCP Spitfire Spam post removed.
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CCP Wrangler
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Posted - 2010.12.10 18:25:00 -
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WeÆre currently putting together more information on our efforts to fight RMT and we will make that available to everyone next week. We appreciate that this is something you are all very passionate about and we look forward to answering your questions.
Wrangler Senior Community Manager CCP Hf, EVE Online Contact us
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2010.12.10 18:30:00 -
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I suggest you kill them with fire. fire works good
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Kalle Demos
Amarr Hysteria Nexus
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Posted - 2010.12.10 18:38:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Wrangler WeÆre currently putting together more information on our efforts to fight RMT and we will make that available to everyone next week. We appreciate that this is something you are all very passionate about and we look forward to answering your questions.
As it has been stated over and over the issue ISNT just RMT, it is botting used for personal gain, unholy rage targetted RMT ONLY.
CCP need to focus on botting in general careless of RMT, this includes macro ratting, macro mining and macro hauling, going after RMT ONLY just confirms the rumours that CCP dont care about botters unless they RMT.
Originally by: Kool StoryBro <---
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Florestan Bronstein
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Posted - 2010.12.10 18:40:00 -
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Edited by: Florestan Bronstein on 10/12/2010 18:40:43
Originally by: Kalle Demos How the hell do you manage todo a combat mission and do laundry & dishes anyway, besides I said this should affect ratting / mining bots
activate perma-tank, pull aggro, deploy drones
edit. wrong character, Cyaxares is my alt
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Kalle Demos
Amarr Hysteria Nexus
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Posted - 2010.12.10 18:52:00 -
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Originally by: Florestan Bronstein Edited by: Florestan Bronstein on 10/12/2010 18:40:43
Originally by: Kalle Demos How the hell do you manage todo a combat mission and do laundry & dishes anyway, besides I said this should affect ratting / mining bots
activate perma-tank, pull aggro, deploy drones
edit. wrong character, Cyaxares is my alt
Ok well eitherway anti-botting wont affect you, because A no macro would be even remotely efficient doing that (because of triggers and just a bad way of doing missions) and B because you arent clicking anything :P
When you are mining, despite being able todo it with little attention you still have to click one every few mins, your style of mission running doesnt.
Originally by: Kool StoryBro <---
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