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Shivalla
Gallente
Financial Removal
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Posted - 2010.12.07 16:50:00 -
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In the name of everything that is Holy, please support the service that you have created in a way that it does not just dissipate in thin air. Contact Chribba, contact CCP, do whatever it takes to not let this magnificent service die.
You sir have made the second best tool in game after DOTLAN and that is not a small thing!!!
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Thorvik
Minmatar Ship Construction Services
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.12.07 16:51:00 -
[32]
Thanks for the hard work and an excellent EVE resource. I'll be sad to see it go but your reasons are understandable and, surprisingly, sane. 
Fly free and hope your next venture is as successful as this one.
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Jeddeita
Lead Farmers
Kill It With Fire
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Posted - 2010.12.07 17:13:00 -
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Edited by: Jeddeita on 07/12/2010 17:16:10
Hi,
Do you have an email address I could contact you on? I have the infrastructure that can host large sites at my London location - and as a user of EVE Metrics I'd love to see those projects carry on running in some form or another.
Should you prefer to send me a mail you can do it to [email protected].
Cheers,
Jed/Alex
P.S. I know you wouldn't want to hand over the API data from users, that's understandable - but I'd be interested in just running the pure API/Market side of things rather than users API side.
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Flowerchick
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Posted - 2010.12.07 17:32:00 -
[34]
Hi IX
please give us the chance to use your sourcecode to rebuild the site.
Sure The Api¦s are not needed for this, also most of mails,.... dont interest most of the users, but the generated Graphs,... are a very importand issue to most traders.
is there a repo which we can continue working on?
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Kile Kitmoore
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Posted - 2010.12.07 17:47:00 -
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Wanted to thank you for supporting the EVE community and wish you well. The site will be missed. It was well designed, great resource and easy for users to contribute marketing data. If EVE-Gate had a fraction of what your site offered maybe more people wouldn't ignore it.
Good luck and thanks again!
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Ix Forres
Caldari
Righteous Chaps
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Posted - 2010.12.07 18:23:00 -
[36]
EM is complex enough (webapp, DB with triggers and partitioning, multiple processors and daemons in the background, AMQP messaging system with a custom firewall in front of it, etc, etc) that for me to set someone else up to host it would take weeks, maybe longer, to get it migrated or set up fresh. Hosting costs are not the main reason for shutting the site down; it's mainly the time. I've moved on and don't have the time to migrate it or set the site up to be openly collaborated on, etc, etc. I wouldn't want to release the site as-is code-wise; it's a mess internally, by and large.
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Ix Forres - 3rd Party Application Developer - EVE Metrics - accVIEW
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Jeddeita
Lead Farmers
Kill It With Fire
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Posted - 2010.12.07 19:06:00 -
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Fair enough and understandable :) It'll be a shame to see it go as I found it much better than the other options out there at the moment. I would be interested in a database dump if possible (if it's not a problem of course) - if it'll be problematic no worries.
Good luck with your future projects and thanks for all the time/money/effort you put into running EVE Metrics.
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Grimdahl
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Posted - 2010.12.07 20:47:00 -
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It's sad to hear this -- but understandable.
Can we have a talk about Salvis work?
please contact me via: [email protected]
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Ni'Kan
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Posted - 2010.12.07 21:15:00 -
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Very sorry to see your site dissapear. Have used it a lot, and really LOVE your uploader..!
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Thibault Etienne
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Posted - 2010.12.07 21:29:00 -
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Sad day.
You've helped make me a bunch of ISK. For that I thank you. |
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Lorelei Tsu
Caldari
Deutsche Bergbau Gesellschaft mbH und Co. KG
Jaegermeister Alliance
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Posted - 2010.12.07 21:36:00 -
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Edited by: Lorelei Tsu on 07/12/2010 21:37:18
Btw, I could create a central submit point for the uploader and distribute the market views via AMQP or ZeroMQ and open-source that along with the EVE Metrics successor in a way every corp could run their own site - maybe with a reduced or federated dataset if space is a problem - in addition to 'the' fully-fledged version.
Still no statement to my offer.
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Marc Younbrog
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Posted - 2010.12.07 21:41:00 -
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Edited by: Marc Younbrog on 07/12/2010 21:42:46
Ix, would you be interested in passing on the domain registration for a group to code a new EVE Metrics?
Also implying if you're ok with the community re-using the EVE Metrics name.
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Zakarumit CZ
Amarr
Kiroshi Group
Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2010.12.07 22:09:00 -
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Damned, thats a pity I was really enjoying it...
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IceBlade Rage
Immortalis Silens
Initiative Associates
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Posted - 2010.12.07 23:04:00 -
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We will miss you Ix. I know its almost like beating a dead horse, but if not EM, could I possibly prevail upon you for a release of accview?
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Selene D'Celeste
Caldari
The D'Celeste Trading Company
ISK Six
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Posted - 2010.12.07 23:34:00 -
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I was afraid this was going to happen. I know you already said no, but we would also be willing to host the site on the EOH server, sans all of the current API keys. We don't have great ruby support though, but eh, offer is still on the table in case you suddenly change your mind.
We'll miss you around here =/
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Miluuu
Ten Below Zero
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Posted - 2010.12.08 00:25:00 -
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Thank you for the contribution Ix!
It was a big fun in the early days to upload the items :)
Fly safe,
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Diesel47
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Posted - 2010.12.08 00:38:00 -
[47]
 Originally by: Jeddeita
Edited by: Jeddeita on 07/12/2010 17:16:10
Hi,
Do you have an email address I could contact you on? I have the infrastructure that can host large sites at my London location - and as a user of EVE Metrics I'd love to see those projects carry on running in some form or another.
Should you prefer to send me a mail you can do it to [email protected].
Cheers,
Jed/Alex
P.S. I know you wouldn't want to hand over the API data from users, that's understandable - but I'd be interested in just running the pure API/Market side of things rather than users API side.
Keep us posted!
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Baeryn
Sol Enterprises
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Posted - 2010.12.08 01:08:00 -
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What are operational costs? Technology requirements? EVEmail me if you aren't willing to disclose publicly.
I'm in charge of "a few" servers in a cluster that I'd be willing to allocate towards this, and/or just buy the service outright, assuming the price is right. I've used EVE Metrics for a long time and would love to do whatever I can to keep it running.
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Elojs
Gallente
Corp 42
Apoapsis Multiversal Consortium
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Posted - 2010.12.08 01:24:00 -
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Well done, Ix. That's the first thing that needs to be said. EM is a tool I had just begun to use, and was very impressed with both the presentation and the content. At the very least, it's a great resume builder under 'Other activities'.
I would be interested in the sanitized datadump, as I've only been playing EVE for about a year, and would be interested in possibly taking a stab at developing a successor tool (sans API keys)
I wish you the best of good fortune, and success in all your future endeavors. Your skills and expertise as shown with EM will be sorely missed by all of us who have used the tool consistently.
I understand the needs of change and wish you well, as I also wish for a future tool that builds on the fine work that has come before.
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Dragonaire
Caldari
Corax.
SOUL CARTEL
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Posted - 2010.12.08 04:30:00 -
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Sorry to see you and the site go Ix. I didn't really use the site but know it was very popular and will really be missed. I'll also been missing you not being around the forums here.
BTW I wouldn't worry about what the code looks like I would still like to see you release it as open source so if someone decides to they can try picking it up. Just zip up the code or something and put it up on GoogleCode or at Source Forge with it clearly stated you won't answer support questions and its all on them to figure it out. If you want you can also contact me and I'll put it up somewhere for you and handle the project admin stuff so you don't have to deal with it. I just hate to see all the work you did on it be totally lost.
Anyway thanks for all you done for the Eve community and good luck with whatever you've moved on to.
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Finds camping stations from the inside much easier.
Designer of Yapeal for Eve API.
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Raijen Ar'Desh
Gallente
Interstellar Business Machines Corp.
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Posted - 2010.12.08 06:21:00 -
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I just wanted to post to thank you for providing your service, thanks for your time and effort, and good luck in your future endeavors.
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Victor Valka
Caldari
The Kairos Syndicate
Transmission Lost
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Posted - 2010.12.08 06:41:00 -
[52]
I've used EVE Metrics on several occasions, and it proved itself to be a great resource. Thank you, Ix, for all the time and money you've put into it. It is much appreciated!
Good luck in the future! o7
Originally by: Spaztick
You are not outnumbered, you are in a target-rich environment.
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megan lebroux
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Posted - 2010.12.08 08:16:00 -
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there is a lot of people ready to take this out of your hands..... you just going to bury it in the sand?
this looks more like an ego thing that anything else, you havent explored any options to keep this alive, and you are asumming nobody else has the knowledge to clear up the code , etc.
give it to ccp maybe they will be interested, if you dont trust anyone else, but dont let it die like this....
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Wollari
Phoenix Industries
Black Star Alliance
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Posted - 2010.12.08 09:43:00 -
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Originally by: megan lebroux
give it to ccp maybe they will be interested
I don't think that's what you really want. Since CCP is always picky if it affects their market data. Every approach to get a global market rather then a region/local one or more market data out of CCP (apart from what's available through ClientCache and API) is nearly impossible.
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Seraphina Amaranth
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Posted - 2010.12.08 11:23:00 -
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Thanks for everything, Ix. The fact that you've built and operated such a site is something to be proud of and worth more than a single line on your CV. Regrettably, the success of eve-metrics would be lessened by its demise and I urge you to consider a transition plan.
For those who asked about operating costs: Ix has previously stated that it costs about 100GBP/month.
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Zeta Zhul
Caldari
Preemptive Paranoia
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Posted - 2010.12.08 12:10:00 -
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Edited by: Zeta Zhul on 08/12/2010 12:12:38
Hmmmm
@ Ix
1. I want to thank you for the work you've done, the service you've provided and the enjoyment of this game that was enhanced by your efforts.
2. I'm sorry to see that your work is going to quietly pass away. Frankly as a professional programmer much of my work lies hidden behind corporate firewalls and is hardly visible to anybody but a select few at any given time.
3. I wish you'd reconsider this decision to let the project lapse completely. If nothing else would you be willing to release the cache-sc****r so other people can code an uploader for a new site? I'd be more than willing to take that over and provide a GPL project to host it. A new cache-sc****r could even be setup to update multiple market sites simultaneously if desired.
Frankly I was thinking of creating my own cache-sc****r but if the source is available for an existing one to modify/update then that would of course be much easier.
4. What are your monthly operating costs? IMO the service is valuable enough that people will try to replicate it and a rough guide to monthly operating costs would probably help immensely.
5. I currently have an "unlimited" web account with my host that I used to support a couple personal blogs, some web projects of mine and a couple businesses run by friends. Terribly underutilized really. I know people have asked this before but I, along with those others, would be willing to take over the project lock, stock and both barrels with the preemptive deletion of the API keys and registered market orders of course.
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In any event I wish you the best in whatever you turn to next and hope to see you one day back here in EVE or in another game someday.
edit: you must be joking here!? s-c-r-a-p-e-r? clbuttic!
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Serene Python
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Posted - 2010.12.08 13:13:00 -
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Really sorry to see this go but I can see your reasons.
I think the people who claim to be competent to maintain and clean up your code should stop asking and start making another version while EM is still around. I'd give it a go myself but I can already tell what needs to be done and lack the ability, time and money to do this. I appreciate what service this has given me API wise. Hopefully some one really does step up to the plate and starts coding something like this.
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Dismantler
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Posted - 2010.12.08 15:28:00 -
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Can we have the source code for the cache reader opened?
Thanks,
Dis
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Ix Forres
Caldari
Righteous Chaps
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Posted - 2010.12.08 15:31:00 -
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Originally by: Dismantler
Can we have the source code for the cache reader opened?
Thanks,
Dis
The 1.5 cache reader can't be open sourced for various reasons, but we have released the 2.0 uploader's source, and people are more than welcome to fork the project and continue with it.
https://github.com/JamesHarrison/evemetrics_uploader
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Ix Forres - 3rd Party Application Developer - EVE Metrics - accVIEW
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Wollari
Phoenix Industries
Black Star Alliance
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Posted - 2010.12.08 15:54:00 -
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Edited by: Wollari on 08/12/2010 15:55:05
Originally by: Dismantler
Can we have the source code for the cache reader opened?
Thanks,
Dis
You also likely wanna take a look on Entitiy's Libary that's actuacally reading the cache files (which Ix's cache uploader is using aswell before pushing the data to the server).
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1190021
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