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Astenion Blame The Bunny Reverberation Project	Posted - 2010.12.10 00:40:00 - [211] Edited by: Astenion on 10/12/2010 00:41:01 Edited by: Astenion on 10/12/2010 00:40:36 Originally by: Tora Nevaal The point isn't that America, or any other government is imperfect; the point is that in spite of the monumental wealth and power the states holds, it chooses to use that power to it's own self serving means while neglecting the needs of less affluent nations and still trying to maintain an image of altruism. You had me until that part. I interpret that as your faulting of the US (or another extremely wealthy nation) for looking out for its own interests. Why WOULDN'T it look out for its own interests? Even though the US government is full of liars and crooks, the US still sends out billions and billions of dollars in aid every single year to developing nations and even to already developed nations. It pays 25% of the entire UN budget, and most of the same countries in the UN who receive aid from the US vote against the US 90% of the time in UN resolutions. The US's hands are dirty, everyone knows this...however, the hypocrisy of the entire thing is the fact that all the countries pointing the finger at the US for being hypocrites are all too eager to take their money and then sh!t on them when the US needs their support, the very same thing they fault the US for doing.
Nyu Shin	Posted - 2010.12.10 01:22:00 - [212] Swedish national television SVT will air a new hour-long documentary on WikiLeaks in their 'Dokument Inifrsn' series on Sunday evening at 20:00 local time
Reiisha Evolution IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.12.10 01:33:00 - [213] Originally by: Astenion Really? You really think Russia's foreign policy is less manipulative, as well as North Korea's or Iran's? Russia's foreign policy has been on the backburner for years because their own troops were selling APCs for f@cking vodka. Their entire country was in shambles and only the past few years has it really become the powerhouse it is today. Putin basically publicly assassinated a journalist...you think that's less manipulative? North Korea just killed a bunch of South Korean civilians because they wanted to show their ass, still maintain death camps and kidnap Japanese citizens and force them to work under Kim Jong Il's regime as translators, and the Iranian government last year was literally killing its own citizens on international television because they were protesting the government. Do you still think their foreign policy is forthright and has their own people in mind? I'm not saying they're all pretty little angels, i'm just saying that they're not trying to hide their intentions (that much) to foreigners. "If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all"
Astenion Blame The Bunny Reverberation Project	Posted - 2010.12.10 01:37:00 - [214] Fair enough. Currently watching the documentary...good stuff! Thanks! I'd just like to say that I am very pro-Wikileaks, just anti-Assange.
Herzog Wolfhammer Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2010.12.10 01:48:00 - [215] For a moment I thought I was looking at EvE news when I saw this web page. The original Wikileaker Naomi Wolf weighs in ... Interesting interview with John Young regarding Wikileaks, the Soros connection, the leaks themselves, the cypherpunks, etc, in todays broadcast (around the middle of this show re-airing) The man who said "Truth is Treason in the Empire of Lies" has something to say Not letting a good crises go to waste.... This is an interesting interview with Glen Greenwald. He's usually right. Basically the governmetn will want to control speech on the internet more while the cowed liberals are silent, but the conservatives will tap dance to this tune as well.
Astenion Blame The Bunny Reverberation Project	Posted - 2010.12.10 02:13:00 - [216] Edited by: Astenion on 10/12/2010 02:14:28 THIS is why I despise Assange: Around the 36 minute point in the documentary, Assange defends his stance on the releasing of the Afghan war reports by saying: "The value of this historic record to the progress of that war and it's potential to save lives outweighs the danger to innocents." WORD. FOR. WORD. O RLY? And that is your call to make? So in your vast experience of foreign policy, YOU ALONE make the decision to release the names of Afghan civilians whose families will most likely be killed for collaboration with coalition forces by the Taliban, and it's ok because it's something YOU did and not something a government ordered. The helicopter crew that gunned down those innocent people actually thought they were targeting insurgents. They made a terrible mistake, but you KNOWINGLY released the names of these civilians because you feel they were acceptable collateral damage in order to further your own agenda. What a piece of sh!t.
Headerman Minmatar Metanoia. Test Alliance Please Ignore	Posted - 2010.12.10 02:37:00 - [217] Originally by: Astenion O RLY? And that is your call to make? Pretty much. Keep this in mind: We are of assistance to peoples of all countries who wish to reveal unethical behavior in their governments and institutions. We aim for maximum political impact. - Wikileaks goal. Did Wikileaks or Julian go out and find this info and put it up? No. They put up what was given to them. Maybe (in this instance) The US should have had better security and procedures regarding keeping people anonymous? And LOL again to people saying he is bias against the US, a US spai or whatever.
Astenion Blame The Bunny Reverberation Project	Posted - 2010.12.10 02:50:00 - [218] Originally by: Headerman Originally by: Astenion O RLY? And that is your call to make? Pretty much. Keep this in mind: We are of assistance to peoples of all countries who wish to reveal unethical behavior in their governments and institutions. We aim for maximum political impact. - Wikileaks goal. Did Wikileaks or Julian go out and find this info and put it up? No. They put up what was given to them. Maybe (in this instance) The US should have had better security and procedures regarding keeping people anonymous? And LOL again to people saying he is bias against the US, a US spai or whatever. Maybe so, but you're forgetting one key facet of Wikileaks: the promise to always keep their contacts anonymous and the protection of the names of innocents contained within. I guess Assange feels he can reneg on that whenever he wants and go back on the very foundation of the organization he created. I see why his partners told him to go f@ck himself and split off to form their own leaks website. The part where Daniel texts him saying, "you walk around like an emperor or a slave trader" hit the nail right on the head. Assange is not a journalist and he's not even a whistleblower. He's a hypocrite and he has tainted the Wikileaks name. He's a homeless wannabe journalist ex-hacker with a chip on his shoulder who doesn't abide by the same code of ethics he rails against the rest of the world for not abiding by.
Corozan Aspinall Creutzfeldt-Jakob Industries	Posted - 2010.12.10 04:37:00 - [219] Has he been shanked yet?
Sergeant Spot Galactic Geographic BookMark Surveying Inc.	Posted - 2010.12.10 05:54:00 - [220] I am hostile to Assange (extremely hostile in fact. He is a narrcistic vandalistic thug), but the sex charge they are pursuing is just plain stupid (at least as it is currently being reported). If he creamed a couple of 'dates', well, cream happens. If he impregnated em, charge child support (assuming they actually deliver...). Case closed. Play nice while you butcher each other.
Toshiro GreyHawk	Posted - 2010.12.10 06:27:00 - [221] Originally by: Akita T "Al Capone" Ha! Ha! Ha! I wonder how many people even get that ... Of course ... if I'd wanted to read 8 pages of Sturm Und Drang ... maybe I could have found out ... I'm glad the little ** is in jail ... I just wish it was for what he'd done ... rather than for some triviality ... but ... what the ** - I'll take it. One Man's Whistle Blower Is Another Man's Spy ... and I think the ass hole is a spy (not for any nation in particular but for everyone in general) - and I think he should hang - literally hang. Orbiting vs. Kiting Faction Schools
Headerman Minmatar Metanoia. Test Alliance Please Ignore	Posted - 2010.12.10 06:49:00 - [222] Originally by: Toshiro GreyHawk I just wish it was for what he'd done Oh? So what laws did he break?
Betty Boom Caldari SPECTRE Syndicate	Posted - 2010.12.10 06:57:00 - [223] Originally by: Toshiro GreyHawk Originally by: Akita T "Al Capone" Ha! Ha! Ha! I wonder how many people even get that ... Of course ... if I'd wanted to read 8 pages of Sturm Und Drang ... maybe I could have found out ... I'm glad the little ** is in jail ... I just wish it was for what he'd done ... rather than for some triviality ... but ... what the ** - I'll take it. One Man's Whistle Blower Is Another Man's Spy ... and I think the ass hole is a spy (not for any nation in particular but for everyone in general) - and I think he should hang - literally hang. That AL Capone was sent to jail for breaking tax laws is the most special tactic i know. Use this all time to punish ppl the other way then the crime they did. I personaly doesnt like Julian Assange and think about him he is arronat fool. But what i hear in the US media makes me thinking the world need Julian Assange and Wikileaks. When Senator Lieberman says he want to investigate New York Tiems and all over medias that published Wikileaks and this is a dark point in history and for your rights dear Americans. I have many rules for myself and this way i always think : one is : the bad thing about freedom of speech is, that you can not punish ppl for their opinion, no question how stupid it is. Only good think is, that you can tell this ppl thing, they doesnt wanna hear.
Wendat Huron Stellar Solutions	Posted - 2010.12.10 08:37:00 - [224] Edited by: Wendat Huron on 10/12/2010 08:38:48 Spooky. The word even blanked in a legit link by the CCP PC filter is r4p3, I never thought that would come in handy again... Delenda est achura.
baltec1 Antares Shipyards Phalanx Alliance	Posted - 2010.12.10 09:36:00 - [225] And in todays twist... Burma may be building missile and nuclear sites in remote locations with support from North Korea, according to secret US cables released by Wikileaks. As for the man himself: Secretary of Defence Robert Gates has said the leaked diplomatic cables were embarrassing but would have only "modest" consequences for US foreign policy. In addition, in November Mr Assange contacted US Ambassador in London Louis Susman asking for help redacting information that could put individuals at risk. When the US government refused, Mr Assange wrote he therefore concluded the risk of harm was "fanciful" while stating he had no interest in hurting US national security.
Zhula Guixgrixks Increasing Success by Lowering Expectations Waterboard	Posted - 2010.12.10 11:13:00 - [226] Originally by: Toshiro GreyHawk and I think he should hang - literally hang. Mr. lynch mob, I think you've said enough. CCP: "The posting of ...threatening, hateful..."
Astenion Blame The Bunny Reverberation Project	Posted - 2010.12.10 12:33:00 - [227] Yeah I'm not calling for his death or anything like that, I just can't stand him because he's a hypocrite. I will most definitely be visiting Daniel's site until Wikileaks gets new management.
Dav Varan	Posted - 2010.12.10 15:15:00 - [228] Originally by: Zhula Guixgrixks Originally by: Toshiro GreyHawk and I think he should hang - literally hang. Mr. lynch mob, I think you've said enough. CCP: "The posting of ...threatening, hateful..." What don't you believe in freedom of speech ?
So Sensational GREY COUNCIL Nulli Secunda	Posted - 2010.12.10 15:17:00 - [229] Originally by: Wendat Huron Edited by: Wendat Huron on 10/12/2010 08:38:48 Spooky. The word even blanked in a legit link by the CCP PC filter is r4p3, I never thought that would come in handy again... Even our prosecutors are hot. Swepower.
Louis deGuerre Gallente Amicus Morte Dead Muppets	Posted - 2010.12.10 15:30:00 - [230] Originally by: So Sensational Even our prosecutors are hot. Swepower. Actually, Anna Ardin is not a prosecutor, but one of the accusors. The other one is Sofia WilTn. But yeah, looks smokin' ----- Amicus Morte is recruiting. Dive into the world of 0.0 !
Phosphorus Palladium	Posted - 2010.12.10 16:27:00 - [231] Edited by: Phosphorus Palladium on 10/12/2010 16:32:25 "To seize this moment we have to use technology to open up our democracy. Its no coincidence that one of the most secretive administrations in our history has favoured special interests and pursued policies that could not stand up to the sunlight. As president I'm going to change that. We will put government data online in universally accessible formats." - Barak Obama (2008) Sources: - Youtube recording - Obama agenda (pdf)
Ava Starfire Minmatar Nordanverdr Modr	Posted - 2010.12.10 16:38:00 - [232] Assange is a slimeball, no doubt; the charges against him are dumb, but he is still a slimeball. No, I dont believe that the guy is a saint, nor do i believe that he should be hung, shanked, or anything else people here have suggested. No matter how scuzzy he is, it does not change the validity of the things Wikileaks reports. It does not change the fact that the US is trying to prevent Americans from accessing the website. It does not change the fact that the stuff reported on wikileaks is true. Some pretty interesting precedents have been set since 9/11, and I think we are witnessing a few more; all in the name of "security" of course.
Vogue Skynet Nexus	Posted - 2010.12.10 16:45:00 - [233] Technology is a two way street. Where it gives us greater access to information and news. It can also be used to monitor us. And as Aldous Huxley said we are saturated with media with a lot of it glib and hyperbole. As a result our attention spans have decreased. As far as governments and IT go they always fall behind the corporate sector as innovation is harder. I have worked in the public sector and they do want to innovate but I have found that once a new system is in often it lacks maintenance as the project managers want to move on the the next ooh shiny project. So a lot of systems over several years end up running slow and become buggy because of lack of maintenance and political turf wars. But western government are some good stuff for public facing websites. ..................................................
Sidus Isaacs Gallente	Posted - 2010.12.10 17:00:00 - [234] Its pretty sad how far US has gone. Its really just pathetic. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sigs.html
Phosphorus Palladium	Posted - 2010.12.10 17:03:00 - [235] Edited by: Phosphorus Palladium on 10/12/2010 17:03:47 "I am concerned about reports of pressure exerted on private companies including banks, credit card companies and Internet service providers to close down credit lines for donations to WikiLeaks, as well as to stop hosting the website." "If WikiLeaks has committed any recognisable illegal act then this should be handled through the legal system, and not through pressure and intimidation including on third parties" - Navi Pillay (UN High comissioner for human rights) Source: - Reuters (Dec 9, 2010) - Petition on azaaz.org regarding the same topic (close to 450.000 signatures so far)
Nyu Shin	Posted - 2010.12.10 17:10:00 - [236] wikileaks twitter: Cablegate: 1,269 of 251,287 embassy cables released: 0.5% down, 99.5% to go. www.wikileaks.ch
Sidus Isaacs Gallente	Posted - 2010.12.10 17:19:00 - [237] Originally by: Othran You know the thing that REALLY annoys me? Its morons saying he should be tried for espionage. OK lets look at this in your (US) legal system : 1) Did he induce or coerce anyone to provide the info - no; 2) Did the transfer of info take place on US territory (includes embassies/bases/etc) - no. So how in the hell is it espionage or as some of your more illiterate journos/bloggers are calling it "Treason"? Get a grip. Have you any idea how you look to the rest of the world? What really annoys me is the focus on Assange, while the real problem is what the leaks reveals. Assang (or rather, WikiLeaks) was in his right to make the documents public, and oh, by the way, did any of you here know that WikiLeaks makes sure to remove a lot of names and such to try and save innocents from retribution? I guess not. All this is basically just a symptom of our sick society, and US, seeing them self lord and master is trying their best to hold on to their power. Its so pathetic its disgusting. For one thing, the leaks reveals US and China, the two biggest polluters in the worlds, colluded to sabotage a summit discussing the environmental policies trying to reduce pollution. But where is the headline for that? Oh no, its "Julian Assange - transnational threat" who is the bad guy here. Bad guy for what? I guess you are only free to do what the government says you are free to do -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sigs.html
Zhula Guixgrixks Increasing Success by Lowering Expectations Waterboard	Posted - 2010.12.10 18:05:00 - [238] Originally by: Sidus Isaacs What really annoys me is the focus on Assange, while the real problem is what the leaks reveals. Lot of people (groupies) really like faces. People are weak and projecting their hopes on a person. Maybe little bit less of the face would be good, who knows: Less Assange more WikiLeaks#1 Less Assange more WikiLeaks #2 Less Assange more WikiLeaks #3
Vogue Skynet Nexus	Posted - 2010.12.10 18:07:00 - [239] Edited by: Vogue on 10/12/2010 18:09:23 Edited by: Vogue on 10/12/2010 18:08:43 TLDR international politics: A country wants to dispense a variant of the 'truth' that complements their own quest for power consolidation and growth of power. So with Wikileaks you are seeing countries jockeying for positions that complement their own objectives in this regard. ..................................................
innot Minmatar The Exploited. Nulli Secunda	Posted - 2010.12.10 22:29:00 - [240] didnt a UK court block the EU arrest warrant today?

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