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CCP Adida C C P C C P Alliance	Posted - 2010.12.08 15:33:00 - [1] CCP Abraxas talks about the history and future of the EVE Chronicles. Read more about it in his dev blog. Adida Community Rep CCP Hf, EVE Online

Borgh Brainbasher Brutor tribe	Posted - 2010.12.08 15:45:00 - [2] First I was like: NOOOOOOO and then I was like: yipiyayeee! I don't know if I should hug or stab you right now. Possibly both.
Casiella Truza Ghost Festival Naraka.	Posted - 2010.12.08 15:58:00 - [3] Not 100% how I feel about this, solely for the reason that the last big announcement of working on the fiction was forgotten and unceremoniously dropped. Or, at least, it appears so, since we never heard any more about it. That also happened with the fleshing out of the NPC corp descriptions that ISD Mercury started, though I have hopes that the initiative announced in this blog will finish that. By the by, any way players can participate in this? --
Destination SkillQueue Are We There Yet	Posted - 2010.12.08 16:02:00 - [4] I'm a bit sad about the slower pace of chronicles, but I fully support the work you are planning on doing. I've always felt it was a shame the lore of EVE was mainly experienced through reading out of game articles, that often talk about people you can never meet or interact in the game. Any plans to improve the situation gets my thumbs up.
Firartix	Posted - 2010.12.08 16:16:00 - [5] Edited by: Firartix on 08/12/2010 16:16:36 I was too lazy to read this entierly and think about it for real, so this won't be a serious comment, sorry. This is a bit of offtopic but i never found video games were good support for such fiction stuff... and especially not EVE :s But i would like to point out that the exponential tab effect occurs rather on TvTropes than on Wikipedia... And on SCP Foundation's wiki once you get to understand what's written there :P You can now get back to normal on-topic discussion.
Ugleb Minmatar Sarz'na Khumatari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.12.08 16:24:00 - [6] I had been wondering about the increasing absence of RP news coming out lately. Its a shame that mercury won't be producing any more for some time by the sounds of it. It does sound like this will be a long-term asset to eve, but at the price of less new fiction and I can only assume fewer opportunities for the storyline to respond to what the players are doing. I have very mixed feelings about that. The Journal; Walking The Road To Liberation
Louis deGuerre Gallente Amicus Morte Dead Muppets	Posted - 2010.12.08 16:26:00 - [7] NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !!!!! Worst. Idea. Ever. ----- Amicus Morte is recruiting. Dive into the world of 0.0 !
Manfred Rickenbocker Pan Galactic Gargle Blasters Important Internet Spaceship League	Posted - 2010.12.08 16:27:00 - [8] This is good stuff! Videogames have needed this sort of thing for years, and while several have tried it it is extremely daunting as the amount of content is soooo huge. I can see how this might be problematic to EVE since there are so many locations to actually go to that are simply passed over by the majority of capsuleers (i.e. planets, moons, belts, stars) in their lazy autopilot between Jita and the outskirts. Quick question: will this also include that effort to reconn a bunch of stuff that was similarly mothballed due to its size? PS. Dont murder Dropbear until after he finishes the Sleeper mystery, otherwise we wont figure it out! ------------------------ Peace through superior firepower: a guiding principle for uncertain times.
Mme Gnohm	Posted - 2010.12.08 16:29:00 - [9] WOOP WOOP Chronicles on my Kindle.
Qujulome Amarr	Posted - 2010.12.08 16:34:00 - [10] Originally by: Dev Blog These guys outdid themselves time and again, and I was incredibly happy to have them join in at last. Except for Dropbear, whom I intend to murder. My condolences to CCP Dropbear.

Seriphyn Inhonores Gallente Eleutherian Guard	Posted - 2010.12.08 16:34:00 - [11] Edited by: Seriphyn Inhonores on 08/12/2010 16:37:27 This is what we've been waiting for. Comprehensive infodumps accessible in-game that details out the universe beyond just the mere mechanics. Awesome stuff, looking forward to it. (basically no need to rely on obscure mission text, items and chrons to find out about something?) ------------ Luminaire General Seriphyn Inhonores Eleutherian Guard [FDU]
Myxx Risen Angels	Posted - 2010.12.08 16:39:00 - [12] Originally by: Borgh Brainbasher First I was like: NOOOOOOO and then I was like: yipiyayeee! I don't know if I should hug or stab you right now. Possibly both. Originally by: Casiella Truza Not 100% how I feel about this, solely for the reason that the last big announcement of working on the fiction was forgotten and unceremoniously dropped. Or, at least, it appears so, since we never heard any more about it. That also happened with the fleshing out of the NPC corp descriptions that ISD Mercury started, though I have hopes that the initiative announced in this blog will finish that. By the by, any way players can participate in this? both of these, really... -- Originally by: CCP Explorer (and if you guys would also stop using Drakes it would be really appreciated, kthxbye).
Kyra Felann Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2010.12.08 16:48:00 - [13] I like this. I've always wished the back-story and lore were more integrated into, and accessible from within, the game itself. The unanswered questions you brought up are exactly the sorts of things I've been wondering and would love to read about. This sort of thing is what makes the fictional universe we inhabit feel more "alive" and "real". -----WARNING SIGNATURE BELOW----- Originally by: CCP Ginger Ships have crews, most pod controlled frigates do not, above that they have crews of varying sizes. Hope that helps.
Quark Zulu	Posted - 2010.12.08 17:01:00 - [14] Why dont you publish the chronicles in a book? That would be great. Cheers Quark
DmitryEKT Point of No Return Waterboard	Posted - 2010.12.08 17:06:00 - [15] I'd like to see more of longer stories, like Theodicy...
Akrasjel Lanate Gallente Naquatech Conglomerate	Posted - 2010.12.08 17:11:00 - [16] Awesome, looking forward to it.
Nix Lazarus Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2010.12.08 17:12:00 - [17] Edited by: Nix Lazarus on 08/12/2010 17:14:29 I remember when I first started Eve over a year ago, I lost a good chunk of my first days frantically reading through the chronicle backlog. It'll be sad to see them go, even for a while. Though I'm also glad at the decision to expand the backstory with more factual material, even if that brings the risk of me adding New Eden, along with the Star Wars universe and Middle Earth in the list of places I know more about than the real world. While we're on the subject, might I recommend looking at wookiepedia as an inspiration. It's a truly superb wiki-based info source for such a complex fictional universe. And I'd advise outsourcing at least some of the work to the guys at White wolf. As a one-time WoD player I remember they're quite good at writing engaging infodumps, and nobody wants to see Abraxas driven crazy(er) by the workload.
Publius Valerius Amarr East Khanid Trading Khanid Trade Syndicate	Posted - 2010.12.08 17:17:00 - [18] Originally by: Quark Zulu Why dont you publish the chronicles in a book? That would be great. Cheers Quark see here:^^ http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/The_Book_of_EVE ehm what CCP think about this idea? http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Talk:Heideran_VII
Vikarion Caldari Blackened Steel	Posted - 2010.12.08 17:35:00 - [19] Edited by: Vikarion on 08/12/2010 17:36:24 Crossposting from Backstage: I'm going to rain on the parade here. I don't think this is a good thing. I think this is CCP redirecting time and money from something that can be objectively measured (1 Chron every two weeks) to something that can't (we're adding fiction in different places). CCP hasn't exactly been known for a burning desire to maintain continuity or consistency across their universe (witness the in-game information on corporations or factions and the persons in them, as well as TEA, Ruthless, Theodicy...etc), and I think this is just an extension of that attitude into the Chronicles: "well, not many people read them, so why bother?". And CCP's record hasn't been exactly brilliant when it comes to implementation of content that requires extended, consistent effort. Witness COSMOS, the FW storyline, other storylines, etc. Thus, I don't think that we're going to see a bunch of new content showing up in game because expecting that would be expecting CCP to break out of their normal pattern of behavior, which, I think I must note for the optimists here, is considered their normal pattern of behavior based on all the previous times we thought they were going to do something awesome with the storyline or prime fiction. I liked the Chronicles because I knew that, every two weeks, I'd get something new and interesting that I could mine for Eve info. Now, I expect that we'll get a few evelopedia articles, and then CCP will find other uses for their time. And that's if they are sincere about this. Part of me just suspects that they're tired of paying people to write things and want to save the money, so their planning on simply updating a few item descriptions and calling it good. - - -
Gnulpie Minmatar Miner Tech	Posted - 2010.12.08 17:55:00 - [20] Thank you, thank you, thaaaaaaaank you for all those wonderful Chronicles. They were always great and certainly each time a new one was published I was quickly diving into reading it. BIG THANKS!!! Very sad to hear that those chronicles will stop for a while now. For the integration into EVE? In theory it sounds reasonable, especially if you want to have a full blown scifi world with all the background. In reality? Not really sure about it - look at the COSMOS stuff for example and how many people are digging into that. Not many. One piece of advice though: the framework should be in a computer readable format, XML or whatever, from there you should extract the data necessary to write short notes/stories. If you don't have a computer readable format this project will fail in the long run.

Malcanis Caldari Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2010.12.08 18:16:00 - [21] Talk about topical... Malcanis' Law: Whenever a mechanics change is proposed on behalf of "new players", that change is always to the overwhelming advantage of richer, older players.
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong	Posted - 2010.12.08 19:00:00 - [22] Edited by: MotherMoon on 08/12/2010 19:05:10 1st off, me and my finance love reading your stories. We read them out loud to each other whenever they come out. : ) I took a 15 month break from eve, but never from the chronicles. Quote: various e-readable formats dude, make an app. would be epic. Or can one of us make one? is that ok? I'll miss them, please don't lose steam and forget this project! edit: One last thing, please try to pin down how many crew a ship needs, and put that in the game under show info. I don' care if it doesn't get used for anything, the reports are battleships with pod pilots needing 40 to 400 people.
Da Trader	Posted - 2010.12.08 19:13:00 - [23] Originally by: Mme Gnohm WOOP WOOP Chronicles on my Kindle. Yep, that would be great
Jowen Datloran Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2010.12.08 19:26:00 - [24] I get a feeling this blog has some kind of connection on my Lorebook. My original idea was after all to bring the in-game lore out into the open so it could be connected with other lore sources. If nothing else, it will provide me with more connections to look for. And no, I have currently no plans to integrate my Lorebook with Evelopedia though I played with the thought initially. -- Mr. Science & Trade Institute - EVE Lorebook - Mysteries of W-space
Lost Hamster Hamster Holding Corp	Posted - 2010.12.08 19:27:00 - [25] Noooooo. This is really a bad news. I will miss the chronicles. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Shields are like pants, they're supposed to come off. Armor is like the condom once its gone ur ****ed
Score Minmatar Industrial Forge Works Inc	Posted - 2010.12.08 19:50:00 - [26] As long as the SEO Pyramid is followed, the content should easily and quickly be made available on any format. From my understanding of the article, the chronicles and a multitude of other in-game information may be made accessible and cross-referenced from just about any device anywhere including: Smartphones (I can't wait!) All Browsers In-game Ipads Wiki-style information for the backstory/history/details of Eve is a huge undertaking! Good luck and hurry! CEO of The Businessmen
Theqwert125 Qwertian Enterprises	Posted - 2010.12.08 19:54:00 - [27] Quote: If you read a chronicle about some person working in a hisec space station, you should be able to meet him at some point in Incarna. If he comes from a planet nearby, it should be a habitable one whose fictional infrastructure and institutions really could have created someone like him, and which are accessible for you to read about when you're in the vicinity. If an agent then hands you a mission that references that planet, it should also reference that same infrastructure, and possibly even the person you read about in a chronicle. And if you want to find out more about any of these, you should be able to do so right away, in depth, and without any necessary foreknowledge. The lore should be deep enough to be interesting to everyone, but also accessible enough - both in how it's organized and how we present it - that anyone, new and old, can find his or her way around it without first having to memorize years' worth of details. I'm actually partially against this; the thing that I always loved about some of the chronicles is how they were just stories of one of the trillions of people in EVE, maybe of not a special significance beyond being a Minmatar slave, or a member of the Caldari military. They expanded and elaborated content, and yet told stories about the people who's existence that by all rights, we, demigods called capsuleers, shouldn't even comprehend outside of the chronicle. I'm all for uniting the information on things that should matter to capsuleers; a story of some fan of a Gallente pop icon is great for expanding the lore on the icon, but we really shouldn't get much more information about that fan than that snapshot.

CCP Abraxas	Posted - 2010.12.08 19:55:00 - [28] Thanks to everyone for the kind words, particularly on the chronicles past. It's always wonderful to know you made something that someone else really liked. I'm leading this new project (though with tons of cooperation and work from guys like CCP Ginger), and while it may take time to get fully implemented, it'll get there in the end. If not, you can seek me out at Fanfest and yell at me. Buy me a beer first, though. Originally by: MotherMoon me and my finance love reading your stories. We read them out loud to each other whenever they come out. Hey, awesome - I do the same with mine! Except not with my own stories. Because that would be just a little creepy. Originally by: MotherMoon dude, make an app. would be epic. Or can one of us make one? is that ok? Let's see once the compendium's ready. I'm hoping for some time in the first half of 2011, but it depends on how much time I have left over from the Immersion project and others.

Drab Cane Carbenadium Industries	Posted - 2010.12.08 19:59:00 - [29] Congratulations to CCP and CCP Abraxas for taking on such a huge, audacious project! Such information would be awesome for the actual roleplayers among us, and may prompt more fan fiction as it becomes easier to integrate our stories with the existing EVE world. Good luck, and Godspeed. ----------------------------------------------- - Who Dares, Wins
Kyoko Sakoda Caldari Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2010.12.08 20:50:00 - [30] I actually think this will be quite awesome once it gets underway. +1 cool points for XKCD image. ___ Latest video: Future Proof (720p) 2D Animator

Ze'ev Sinraali Ataraxia Pharmacies	Posted - 2010.12.08 22:05:00 - [31] I'm still unsure what exactly you're going to be doing with this project, but from the sounds of it at least the first portion will be largely concerned with mining PF info from the chrons and items and news and wikifying it for easy reference. This is something I can get behind wholeheartedly. But when it comes to coming up with all those new things, I'd ask that you please try to avoid overspecifying. We've come up with a lot of background on our own, and to have it all obliterated one day by a wiki article that says, "This is the way it is, and nothing else happens," would be double plus un-fun. The cluster is big enough that "This is one of the important ways it is" would be accurate enough. P.S. Please return Tierijev to its rightful place as the Cold War Berlin of EVE. :)
Onnen Mentar Murientor Tribe	Posted - 2010.12.08 22:10:00 - [32] Sad to see the frequent chronicles go.. But it's awesome you'll be working on making the backstory more consistent and more easily accessible. Good luck!
Kayscha	Posted - 2010.12.08 23:02:00 - [33] Yay! This is extremely cool - and long-yearned for by this player. Might this further mean that - celestial bodies' (and systems', constellations' and regions')info tabs will actually contain some interesting information about what you're looking at? - different regions of space would actually get different flavours besides their sovereignty label? - individual systems will have individual peculiarities that have gameplay relevant effects (such as local/regional economics, i.e. populations and industry with supply and demand)? - story events may also have temporary or permanent gameplay effects? - players may interact with and influence these effects or - better - the ongoing story events in a meaningful way? - NPC stations will finally "make sense" as trade ports for the planets they orbit, even if it means you need to modify, add or even move stations? - we will finally be present with a convincing illusion that there is (semi-)intelligent life in the cluster aside from (often less than semi-intelligent) capsuleers.
thegallenteamarrguy	Posted - 2010.12.08 23:27:00 - [34] I like this, alot. I'm sad to see regular chronicles go, but this'll be nice. Hell, I'm liking alot of recent actions by CCP. Also, inb4 the ccp/csm conspiracy theorist guy.
Merouk Baas Gallente	Posted - 2010.12.09 00:00:00 - [35] Good luck Abraxas in your undertaking of this, sounds like a cool project. A lot of work, but cool. I think I understand the need for it (CCP is trying to position itself as a provider of all manner of sci-fi games, and there's a need to have a universe for said games). I also think it'll be treated as lol-lore (i.e. not appreciated) until you tie it right back into EVE (and all other games), and that'll involve replacing all the generic missions with themed missions. No longer Angel Extravaganza, instead, a specific prime-fiction Angel leader invading for a lore-related bonus. You're moving towards lore and WoW-like quest text (they seem to have done a nice job with the hilarity of the quests in this last expansion). SWTOR story-based MMO experience, too, I guess. I think it's awesome. You're also moving towards the world being shaped by the lore. Like, you can completely re-arrange the whole star map based on the progress of the story. Which is also awesome. So, question: Prophecy of Macapher and all related stuff, will you explain / wiki that?
Breaker77 Gallente Reclamation Industries	Posted - 2010.12.09 00:05:00 - [36] It will be sad to see the chronicles go for awhile, however am I the only person who went to check out lesbianism in erotica after seeing the pic?
Hyperforce99 Gallente Infinite Covenant Systematic-Chaos	Posted - 2010.12.09 00:09:00 - [37] I never had that problem with wikipedia... However, Tvtropes.org is a completely different story, now that site is facinating me to stay up for long nights just reading and clicking new links and then reading some more, and getting side tracked again (repeat infinitum) XD --------------------------------------------- Somewhere beyond happyness and sadness, I need to calculate what creates my own madness o/
Aeo IV Amarr Oneironautics Research Institute	Posted - 2010.12.09 01:01:00 - [38] I think this is ultimately a bad move. CCP has a rather fortunate history of, as you note, inconsistency with it's fiction. Part of the problem is that we've seen this sort of thing happen before. Does anyone else remember EA? The story build up to that expansion was really neat, and then... nothing. I hope this does not occur in this case, but I suspect it will. Every MMO talks immersion, but immersion is really, really hard and time consuming.
Grady Eltoren Minmatar Aviation Professionals for EVE	Posted - 2010.12.09 01:12:00 - [39] Originally by: Manfred Rickenbocker This is good stuff! Videogames have needed this sort of thing for years, and while several have tried it it is extremely daunting as the amount of content is soooo huge. I can see how this might be problematic to EVE since there are so many locations to actually go to that are simply passed over by the majority of capsuleers (i.e. planets, moons, belts, stars) in their lazy autopilot between Jita and the outskirts. Quick question: will this also include that effort to reconn a bunch of stuff that was similarly mothballed due to its size? PS. Dont murder Dropbear until after he finishes the Sleeper mystery, otherwise we wont figure it out! This! REALLY like the idea of integrating lore into the game. It will add a ton of depth and increased playability to PVE, etc. Dropbear must live and disclose the secret of the sleepers or the Dev's need to make some sort of supersecret way for us to find it otherwise I will go crazy! :) TY Aviation Professionals for EVE (APEVE)
Frug Omega Wing Snatch Victory	Posted - 2010.12.09 01:16:00 - [40] Edited by: Frug on 09/12/2010 01:16:03 About time. I've never understood why, or even how, you could continue to put out so many bits of story and worldbuilding here and there, for years, without ever properly assembling it all. It's why I've always called BS when CCP devs said things like "we care about immersion and roleplay". If the company did, this initiative would have happened already (because someone would have wanted desperately to do it and been given permission to take it over). All the constant chronicles have looked, to me, like ****ing in the wind without proper integration with some centralized world-building body that also influenced the game itself. Otherwise it's just fanfiction, which is fine to write I guess, but not something I'm inclined to read. So now, how about addressing the 'science of eve' articles too. Because there are lingering issues with those and the game itself (hi binary star systems, where are you?). - - - - - - - - - Do not use dotted lines - - - - - - If you think I'm awesome say BOOO BOOO!! - Ductoris Neat look what I found - Kreul Whisper/PrismX 4 emperor

Reddx Panther	Posted - 2010.12.09 01:36:00 - [41] I have read and enjoyed the Chronicles and the novels and will miss them. But I'm sure I will appreciate your work as I hope it will lead to a more engaging and consistent background story (+game mechanics!). On a side note I have to add tho that I had trouble finishing reading 'Burning Life'. For my taste the story drives the main character all to forcefully through a lot of EVE background story. The background itself is described masterfully.
AnakieNine	Posted - 2010.12.09 01:41:00 - [42] Edited by: AnakieNine on 09/12/2010 01:52:24 I hope the right decision was made. Removing something proven to work well in meeting the content needs of players is dangerous even for a short time. It had the net effect of keeping and introducing people to the site. "A nicely managed feed of information that players loved." Probably the only real evolving immersion rich content on the site that is visible to everyone at the same time. If your removing them i would suggest picking up a few older ones that semi relate to now and republish them in their places. keep people interested as most players wont have read all of them. Lets hope the temporary loss of the chronicles is out weighed by the potential gains. Its a risky proposition, Do players have the extra time to get lost in link after link for hours and hours. Reading a chronicle every couple of weeks satisfied my appetite and left me wanting more. I'm sure I learnt and thought more than I ever would have if I had burnt myself out reading link after link. Sure, I like the idea of an in depth information learning system. Civilization I was great for this. Eve may not be real life but the chronicles had a way of making people think. Generally keeping people interested far longer than simply the time required to read the article. Thats what made them a hit. Please make sure that some of the in game content continues some of these thought provoking dilemmas. People play complex games to keep their minds busy just as much as the immediate fun factor. If you can bring the chronicles style into the game it should allow players to leave eve and continue contemplating the question of, say "life"? It's 42 btw unless you have plans to change it. Lets face it, it's outdated. :P I found it strange that CCP removed the old pirate logs from drops. I really do miss those. I had a great time collecting them. A type of lore in itself. A lore of locations. They gave players reasons to go looking for something else in eve. Still kept it a sandbox game but encourage a reason to go on a crusade or explore. Please bring something like those back. Give us reasons to explore, I prefer to find a piece of lore and work out the information over looking on the map to visit each unique location which for ease has already been marked on the map. Yes, scanning lets us find things but what site we exactly find is 100% luck. Let me use my brain and work out where and how to find things. Just like a particular sun you already visit to find the complex. Content is a good thing, even in a sandbox game. For years CCP seem to have been pushing the game towards larger and larger groups. Forcing team work. Also remember that there are a lot of players that like to play by themselves. They play MMO's to chat to others but to them they have single person "goals". They play online simply because the content expands each year and the fact that they are competing with real players and not "bots". Content gives them reasons for continuing and to keep busy and amused. Fleet battle can be satisfing and great for marketing, however unless your running the event it's nothing like the satisfaction gained by a player when they meet their own personal goals. The ones that average players have. I hope this is a step towards that, towards exploration, both content and knowledge wise. Exploration and reasons to do it is probably what a lot of new players come to eve expecting. I miss the old "star" that appeared simultaneously in every system simultaneously. So much lore theories and exploration was done by the player base trying to work out what it was. All because of a few small pixels. In the end I think it was just a bug. :( http://www.eve-wiki.net/index.php?title=Bright_Star
Ehan Cho Gallente T.R.I.A.D	Posted - 2010.12.09 02:31:00 - [43] Originally by: Vikarion Edited by: Vikarion on 08/12/2010 17:36:24 Crossposting from Backstage: I'm going to rain on the parade here. I don't think this is a good thing. I think this is CCP redirecting time and money from something that can be objectively measured (1 Chron every two weeks) to something that can't (we're adding fiction in different places). CCP hasn't exactly been known for a burning desire to maintain continuity or consistency across their universe (witness the in-game information on corporations or factions and the persons in them, as well as TEA, Ruthless, Theodicy...etc), and I think this is just an extension of that attitude into the Chronicles: "well, not many people read them, so why bother?". And CCP's record hasn't been exactly brilliant when it comes to implementation of content that requires extended, consistent effort. Witness COSMOS, the FW storyline, other storylines, etc. Thus, I don't think that we're going to see a bunch of new content showing up in game because expecting that would be expecting CCP to break out of their normal pattern of behavior, which, I think I must note for the optimists here, is considered their normal pattern of behavior based on all the previous times we thought they were going to do something awesome with the storyline or prime fiction. I liked the Chronicles because I knew that, every two weeks, I'd get something new and interesting that I could mine for Eve info. Now, I expect that we'll get a few evelopedia articles, and then CCP will find other uses for their time. And that's if they are sincere about this. Part of me just suspects that they're tired of paying people to write things and want to save the money, so their planning on simply updating a few item descriptions and calling it good. The cynic in me thinks your on to something. Whatever the case I will miss the chronicles.
mkmin	Posted - 2010.12.09 03:07:00 - [44] That's all fantastic and everything, but can we at least start with the 'search' box in the help (F1) window search the wiki, not the abandoned knowledge base?
Khaine Beralt	Posted - 2010.12.09 03:58:00 - [45] Edited by: Khaine Beralt on 09/12/2010 03:59:04 Edited by: Khaine Beralt on 09/12/2010 03:58:52 Awesome. Every day I fret and panic over the gameplay in EVE, ISK, stats, politics, staying alive, and every day I have a moment when realize I've just zoned out in station or at a star just looking at the starscape or reading the news with the dir scan hanging open. Without the fiction and fluff EVE is just a fun spreadsheet. I've always been disappointed at how skimpy all the background articles in Evelopedia are. More on the ancient races plz.
Nathan Jameson	Posted - 2010.12.09 04:15:00 - [46] I would have to see how they plan to implement this before I have a final opinion, but I can see this turning out completely wrong. EVE has always been about the capsuleers and about the stories we weave and create together. BoB, North vs. South, T4U, etc--this is what EVE is really all about. I loved the Chronicles because they were subtle and in the background, just like the material they were dealing with. They weren't in your face, but they were easily accessible and immersive for those interested with an entire world experience. I'm concerned that now these sorts of subtle details will be thrown in our faces like a two-year-old that has just discovered confetti. The chronicles and the "back"story of EVE were most interested when they were subtle and had to be sought out. Not bolded links that scream for attention, or whatever. Still, by all means keep up the project. It's not so much the concept as the execution I'm worried about.
Daan Sai Polytrope	Posted - 2010.12.09 04:37:00 - [47] Thanks for the steady stream of chronicles Abraxas et al, awesome effort and much appreciated. I best liked that they were small snippets and every couple of weeks or so, very manageable and sustainable. I hope escalating to the new direction/project plans doesn't overload the folks working on it and having all grind to a halt. More people might not help, as I think having a small number of like minded writers keeps the vision crystal clear - if it gets too diffuse it will lose impact. Daan --------------------------------- Internet Submarines is Serious Business ---------------------------------
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong	Posted - 2010.12.09 04:43:00 - [48] Originally by: CCP Abraxas Originally by: MotherMoon me and my finance love reading your stories. We read them out loud to each other whenever they come out. Hey, awesome - I do the same with mine! Except not with my own stories. Because that would be just a little creepy. hey actully.. you know what else we do sometimes? just sit around and listen to audio books... any chance of getting our lovely Aura some extra work? do a couple short reads? would be awesome to fill the gap between now and the new fiction. :P
Valoryn Shadowfire Enterprises Rura-Penthe	Posted - 2010.12.09 08:01:00 - [49] Originally by: MotherMoon Originally by: CCP Abraxas Originally by: MotherMoon me and my finance love reading your stories. We read them out loud to each other whenever they come out. Hey, awesome - I do the same with mine! Except not with my own stories. Because that would be just a little creepy. hey actully.. you know what else we do sometimes? just sit around and listen to audio books... any chance of getting our lovely Aura some extra work? do a couple short reads? would be awesome to fill the gap between now and the new fiction. :P A couple short reads!?!?! Should have her do the entire chronicle series
Pesets The Hunt Club	Posted - 2010.12.09 09:35:00 - [50] Edited by: Pesets on 09/12/2010 09:36:15 I, for one, am glad you are doing this. Having some sort of "universe bible" should be greatly beneficial for both readers and writers themselves, as it should result in both better internal consistency in the lore, and better understanding of it by the players. It is unfortunate that there will be longer breaks in the chronicles, but it's something that should arguably be done before any new stories are written anyways (to ensure they don't introduce inconsistencies and confusion into canon), and dedicating all resources to it will hopefully mean shorter time before it's done. And we have a lot to look forward to once it's finished. TL;DR - lore corification ftw! I do hope, however, that you will design the wiki with some categorization in mind, rather than relying exclusively on frantic clicking for navigation.

Che Biko Humanitarian Communists	Posted - 2010.12.09 10:29:00 - [51] I'm not a big reader, but one of the few things I regularly read are the chronicles. I'll miss them, but what worries me more is that no more RP news will be published? That sounds to me like the universe is ground to a halt, and kind of an odd timing, considering the Sansha storyline. Anyway, Abraxas: I just wanted to let you know that I don't get Jita 4-4. I just don't, and no-one has been able to explain it to me why it's so brilliant, so I will just have to disagree with them. Hope that makes you feel a bit better and not so thirsty for Dropbear's blood.
Ryan Easte Caldari Rura-Penthe	Posted - 2010.12.09 11:17:00 - [52] Wow. Essentially an internet inside eve if im correct? I really love the idea of this.. Me now sees how CCP is planning on removing isk from in the game by feeding those of us with curiosity information to keeps us from undocking! very clever and much loved idea. :) Supported Mining is the path to enlightenment.
Dirk Smacker Manifest Caldari	Posted - 2010.12.09 11:49:00 - [53] I really like the idea of adding in a lot of background information that a pilot should know about New Eden. Chronicles have usually been about things we should not normally know in-game. What would be cool is if after a lot of the essential information gets added in, CCP adds in sort of a personal chronicles feature to the game ala Warhammer Online's "Tome of Knowledge". Basically, you would unlock stories and/or information by doing stuff in-game through exploration, achievements, or specific missions. Even though PvE in WAR was mediocre at best, that feature was wildly addictive and the lore you unlocked was fun to read.
OneTimeAt BannedSpank Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2010.12.09 12:37:00 - [54] I love the Chronicles and of course it is sad to hear they are to be published less frequently. Just promise you WILL keep publishing them thankyou. It would also be nice if you could finally publish the chronicles that have only been printed in EON magazine alongside the online chronicles. I feel the chronicles are a part of the EVE experience and don't much like that some of that is locked down to those that pay an additional sum for the magazine. At the very least consider it as compensation for this disruption to the reqular chronicles ~
AkJon Ferguson JC Ferguson and Son Ltd	Posted - 2010.12.09 13:41:00 - [55] EVE fiction worst fiction. A fictional wikipedia? Meh. If CCP wants to switch resources from one low-value task to another low-value task, okay.
Emanuelle Jasmine Caldari	Posted - 2010.12.09 15:17:00 - [56] What I got from this is finding a way from Tacoma Narrows Bridge to Wet-T-Shirt contest on wikipedia... By the way its Tacoma Narrows Bridge->United States->Culture of the United States->Fashion in the United States->T-Shirt->Wet T-Shirt Contest anyone find a better route?
Mynxee	Posted - 2010.12.09 15:53:00 - [57] Edited by: Mynxee on 09/12/2010 15:53:43 Well with all that browsing and clicking, people will have something to do in Incarna, eh? Will probably hardly even notice that they haven't undocked in weeks, months, or maybe ever. /sarcasm off I do think it is a good idea to start to fill in the gaps and answer all the unanswered questions about EVE's history and even "current" lore. I also hope there is room for "new discoveries" to be introduced that will support future game play--such as, for example, engaging in PvP in stations with a clone activation mechanism if you get killed. I've also often wished for the Chronicles to be available in audio format. I know several players have talked about and maybe even done some of it on their own in podcasts and such, but it would be nice to see it done in a consistently professional manner with trained voice actors. Who knows, maybe you could sell them via Audible.com and maybe create yet another income stream and channel of awareness about the game. Actually, Abraxas, I'd like to see your book available professionally narrated. I have a lot more opportunities to listen to books than read them in a Kindle app or on paper. Life In Low Sec
Genki SG Scapegoats	Posted - 2010.12.09 16:08:00 - [58] So is this a new way to fight lag - confining us to stations reading tidits of info about various stuff?
Ikserak tai	Posted - 2010.12.09 18:28:00 - [59] I volunteer to help with this project. YOU'VE NEVER ROCKED 'TIL YOU'VE UNDOCKED.
Nomzi Nomnialli Steel Heart Industries	Posted - 2010.12.09 18:42:00 - [60] Edited by: Nomzi Nomnialli on 09/12/2010 18:42:55 I do offer up my one story I did to the site if desired. Will do more too. Hope they continue though, a lot of good stories here.

Ak'athra J'ador Amarr Imperial Shipment	Posted - 2010.12.09 21:48:00 - [61] Originally by: Da Trader Originally by: Mme Gnohm WOOP WOOP Chronicles on my Kindle. Yep, that would be great here
Zagdul Gallente Shadowed Command Fatal Ascension	Posted - 2010.12.09 22:17:00 - [62] Originally by: CCP Abraxas Originally by: MotherMoon dude, make an app. would be epic. Or can one of us make one? is that ok? Let's see once the compendium's ready. I'm hoping for some time in the first half of 2011, but it depends on how much time I have left over from the Immersion project and others. go on... Maximum signature size is 24,000 bytes. Spitfire
Takseen	Posted - 2010.12.09 22:43:00 - [63] This is an awesome idea really, especially getting more of the background info into the game itself. The chronicles themselves are nice but they're really disorganised and extremely intimidating to someone who arrived on the scene several years after they started making them. Both your planned features will make it the backstory easier to digest for newish players like me, and thus make Eve more attractive and immersive.
Abramul	Posted - 2010.12.10 01:36:00 - [64] On the one hand, the view most chronicles offer into the life of individual non-capsuleers is interesting; on the other, I've wished for more science and demographics articles for awhile. For instance, I'd like to know how you get the same round into both a Dual 425mm autocannon and a 1400mm artillery piece... I would suggest that an in-game mailing list, or another in-game method of alerting interested players to new entries, might prove popular.
Riffix The Graduates	Posted - 2010.12.10 21:55:00 - [65] I'm really excited by this initiative! Ever since I started playing in 2003 I have wished for less of a separation between the rich fiction of EVE and the actual gameplay. My only hope is that this initiative comes along with some improvements to the way the info is experienced. While having things setup exactly like simple web pages in a simple browser is quaint, I think more could be done to improve the immersion of the way you experience the data. For example something that feels more like you are jacked into a galactic codex with rich media. "Lead, follow, or get the #@$@#$ out of the way"
Jupix Minmatar Frozen Dawn Inc Arctic Light	Posted - 2010.12.11 18:02:00 - [66] Originally by: AnakieNine I found it strange that CCP removed the old pirate logs from drops. I really do miss those. I had a great time collecting them. A type of lore in itself. A lore of locations. They gave players reasons to go looking for something else in eve. Still kept it a sandbox game but encourage a reason to go on a crusade or explore. Please bring something like those back. Give us reasons to explore, I prefer to find a piece of lore and work out the information over looking on the map to visit each unique location which for ease has already been marked on the map. Yes, scanning lets us find things but what site we exactly find is 100% luck. Let me use my brain and work out where and how to find things. Just like a particular sun you already visit to find the complex. I was going to post about this. I miss finding those pirate logs and still have a huge collection at my old hq. When reading this devblog I immediately thought, why not have the chronicles in game as books you can actually read and collect onto a shelf in your captain's quarters? Sort of like a blast from the past in the futuristic New Eden. In a very Captain Picard sort of way. You could source those books on stations, in shady old rustic NPC book stores (say) or perhaps they could even be player-run, if there was enough of a "black market" for books. Or you could find them find them in missions or plexes. Anyway, those books should originate in their respective regions and they would travel with players from region to region. There might even be books that originate in 0.0 and would be semi-valuable in old book stores in empire space. Long story short, this might be one way to add uniqueness to station establishments so that there is incentive to explore other stations than just the ones you would otherwise visit regularly.
AkJon Ferguson JC Ferguson and Son Ltd	Posted - 2010.12.11 18:10:00 - [67] Edited by: AkJon Ferguson on 11/12/2010 18:13:01 Originally by: Mynxee I've also often wished for the Chronicles to be available in audio format. I know several players have talked about and maybe even done some of it on their own in podcasts and such, but it would be nice to see it done in a consistently professional manner with trained voice actors. Who knows, maybe you could sell them via Audible.com and maybe create yet another income stream and channel of awareness about the game. Actually, Abraxas, I'd like to see your book available professionally narrated. I have a lot more opportunities to listen to books than read them in a Kindle app or on paper. I'd way rather see voice acting for mission agents. I got such a kick out of the advisors in Civ II. That was almost 15 years ago and agent interaction is dull and boring by comparison.
Flauschig Katzchen	Posted - 2010.12.16 12:39:00 - [68] The Chronicles need more sex and less violence. ------ sig
Publius Valerius Amarr	Posted - 2011.01.27 18:22:00 - [69] I love this idea chronicles: with acknowledgments to mad dogs... but I have the feeling not so much is happening... I think CCP forget this awesome project or has find out how big is truely is, but nevertheless i hope some stuff will coming


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