Dude those are two diffrent games. EVE is in space, SW:TOR isn't, you fly somekind of ship but thats nothing.

Dude those are two diffrent games. EVE is in space, SW:TOR isn't, you fly somekind of ship but thats nothing.

Yes, they are two different games. However I would suggest most EVE players are also in their core Star Wars fans. Given the choice to fly a Raven in the same L4 over and over again as opposed to playing a game in which you can have your companion Wookie and play through some novel content, I would think a fair amount of players may choose the latter. At least until they get bored doing the same quests and encounters over and over again.

I don't think SW TOR is a big threat to EVE. At most it might take away some players who played EVE not because it was a sandbox but because it is about space, and i honestly doubt there are many of those around.

It's like saying a new average Volkswagen will cause Porsche to lose a lot of their costumers. Both cars are made for different markets , one for the masses the other for a particular niche.

Don't forget the 'walking inside you ship'. This feature alone will be a huge draw for this kind of player.

Yes, they are two different games. However I would suggest most EVE players are also in their core Star Wars fans. Given the choice to fly a Raven in the same L4 over and over again as opposed to playing a game in which you can have your companion Wookie and play through some novel content, I would think a fair amount of players may choose the latter. At least until they get bored doing the same quests and encounters over and over again.

Star Wars Episode IV is an overrated fairy tale in space. I was 12 years old when I saw it the first time and I was disapointed. I still think the movie sucks. Star Wars Galaxies was a decent MMORPG when it started, because it was a sandbox. It's a shame Sony+LucasArt destroyed it. Star Wars The Old Republic will not be a sandbox, it does not have spaceships, and it will feature Jedi who can't kill weak enemies without hitting them over and over. SW:TOR is not able to damage EVE. Microtransactions and P2W are.

Obviously you don't know what you are talking about. SW:TOR is a Sandbox/story-line hybrid.

First of all, TOR is no sandbox.. not even close. It's straight up on the rails themepark. Also, your posting this in the wrong forum.

Have you played the Bata?

There is countless information about the game out there, it's not like it's unknown what type of game it's going to be.
Come on.

There is countless information about the game out there, it's not like it's unknown what type of game it's going to be.
Come on.

Obviously you don't know what you are talking about.

Apparently you can't fly with your group in the ship though...

Depends. I still think the Star Wars movies are boring and overrated. And since these are my feelings about the movies, I think I know very well what I am talking about. Regarding space combat in SWTOR: I asked a question about it, so yeah, I do not know.

I'm sure you know what you like and not like (to each their own) i was refuting your comments about SW:TOR FiS aspect. Prob used a little too strong of language there.

Porsche now owns Volkswagon - just saying.

I was like you. I would not have posted this unless i felt that my hobby (EVE Online) might be in for some rocky few months after Dec because of SW:TOR.

Granted, there is a good chunk of CCP fanbois out there and my argument is not that SW:TOR will "KILL" EVE. what I'm saying is that the days of the easy money from the average player who High Sec mission runs and plays the single player version of this game is over. This will affect all of us by limiting the amount of resources EVE will get between Dust and WoD even further.

Essentially my argument is this, CCP needs to reconnect to its customers and start heeding the warnings from the CSM and :Deliver: current content iteration.

Nailed it. EVE has less than 3 months to provide a content-rich, proper expansion with things for the average player to do. Come winter EVE will face pressure not only from TOR, but WoW (patch 4.3 - Deathwing), Battlefield, Skyrim and countless other competitors. This will be a competitive time for any production house and any misstep could have rather drastic consequenses.

Your acting like there's a fragile amount of potential players to distribute between said games, lol.
There's enough to go around, and people tend to play multiple games at once... just because your playing Battlefield or Skyrim doesn't mean you've unsubbed and stopped training your EVE account for example.

I take it you have studied the material Bioware has released so far to make that ridiculous claim?

ToR appears to be nothing more than WoW in the SW universe with significantly overproduced "gameplay". They didn't even consider PvP as anything other than a side thing until in the 11th hour for Goddess sake, then they hired a more or less complete Dev team from a successful PvP (dead now though ) game to do it for them (PvP is by which ToR will live or die in the market).

Classes and sub-classes between the two sides are nearly identical except for a bit of flavouring,
Generic 3rd person ground based game,
Attack animations (we moan about ECM locking you out of the action, wait until that crap hits the news),
Theme-park,
Friggin tweens! (think Eve is immature at times?, think WoW morons who probably hasn't seen or read SW other than the new fail trilogy/comics).

I did read get my hopes up when I heard they hired the Warhammer team to code their pew but it seems like it is going to be a bunch of battleground affairs, nothing more .. been there, done that.

In short: Your claim is about as apt as a direct comparison between 2001: A Space Odyssey and Independence Day.