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Lynaen
R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2011.01.27 20:36:00 -
[181]
can we please please please get a support for wildcards in the search field ? :o
this way we could search for "pith * heat" and have all pith heat shield hardeners (x, a, b and c type) show up in the search, which would be very useful while keeping the load down on the server.
the new UI is already way better than before, and I really have nothing else than this to add for the moment :) |
Paden Godric
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Posted - 2011.01.27 20:36:00 -
[182]
i like it in general however there doesnt seem to be anything for private and corp contracts that would be nice all things considered
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Cody Michaels
Taggart Transdimensional
Virtue of Selfishness
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Posted - 2011.01.27 20:47:00 -
[183]
The courier section is great.
The only problem I have with it is the search settings aren't saved when the contract window is closed. It gets annoying having to re-type the same settings every time.
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YetTheDutchman
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Posted - 2011.01.27 21:00:00 -
[184]
 Originally by: Jinjer Ninja
Hi, haven't read all posts. For courier contracts....
What I want is contract is: high sec/low sec option
Yeah, security area filtering is necessary! I'm sitting in high sec don't want to see low sec contracts.
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Lederstrumpf
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Posted - 2011.01.27 21:12:00 -
[185]
The new interface has some improvements, but I really hope you do not eliminate the old contract options in favor of the new stuff, as the new stuff lacks in plenty of ways compared to how I make use of the old options possible.
You should put your focus on usability, not visual fancyness. There's hardcore contract traders who like raw data and filtering options and fast UI response -- there's casual buyers who want to click some fancy icons. Hardcore traders are the ones feeding the contract market. Scare them away and there's not much left for the buyers to buy. Focus on what hardcore contract traders want, not what some random graphics dude at CCP (yes, this might include management) is assuming to be best for the player base.
Usability is all about getting raw data filtered and presented in the best possible way (as in creating the least hassle). Don't get yourself fooled by wanting to make trade systems more pretty. That's wrong. Make them more useful. Be careful with using colors and graphical bloat.
So let's compare a screenshot of of the old way I'm using the contract system with the new beta:
Old simple view:
http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/5664/ishot349.png
Beta Search:
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/1200/ishot348.png
First change to notice is the option menu on the left window side instead of some top window area.
The "Search"button went to bottom left corner from former top right "Get contracts"button corner.
GUI design has to recognize there are left handed AND right handed people. GUI design has to recognize that it's easier to move a mouse (& thereby mousepointer) sideways rather than up and down.
Required mouse movement in the old system was quite horizontal.. adjust options to the left, click search to the right, change sort order by clicking within a row right below the top options window... here and there open up a contract to get the contract details...
Compare it to the new Beta: You need to move the mouse pointer to the top left window corner to choose from Buy/sell vs. courier. You have to move the pointer to left middle side to select detailed options. You have to move the mouse pointer further down to press "search" button. You have to move on to the right window side to make use of the vertical window scrollbar. You have to move your mouse pointer to the bottom right corner to select contract pages. You have to move your cursor up to some top row to invert list column sort order. You are required to move your mousepointer ALL ACROSS the whole Search Beta window the whole time you're trying to refine your search.
The main button "search" (which you're probably going to have to press more than once during your EVE lifetime as the data doesn't get autoloaded due to technical real world limitations) being located in the bottom left corner is some indication to me a left-handed person at CCP was responsible. There's a reason most window frame controls are located at top right corner, not at bottom left corner!
So mousemovement-wise the Search Beta Window is not really designed well at all. It just looks to be thrown together, as it lacks basic requirements for excellent usability: Minimizing mouse trail travel distance for task to be done repeatedly during normal use. Like refining search options, searching and browsing thru the results.
Two suggestion:
1. Make it optional whether to have the "options & search button" control column panel on the left or right window side so each user can choose his preference, left and right handed people alike.
2. It'd be nice if one could revert column sort order from within a (not yet existing) bottom row "column sort order control bar" in addition to the existing top one, too.
...more to come after the break...
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Athena Astraia
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Posted - 2011.01.27 21:23:00 -
[186]
Just like to say I like the changes to the contract finder its much more streamlined and easy to find contracts based off the info I want.
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snowdor
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Posted - 2011.01.27 21:37:00 -
[187]
On the old system we could highlight a line then scroll the contracts down and easily find the place we left off looking. Now I have to try to remember every contract I leave off at to scroll the page down. It's really only a problem with the multiple items section, but it is such a pain in the arse.
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Dethmourne Silvermane
Gallente
Northstar Cabal
R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2011.01.27 22:12:00 -
[188]
The new contracts system appears to not differentiate in "sort by price" between thousands and millions, definitely would like to see that issue resolved.
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Atriccus
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Posted - 2011.01.27 22:19:00 -
[189]
Well after you have searched a specific item or group , How do you go back to the previuos page you where on prior to the search ? iff u could install a "Go back to previous page" it would be a great help, otherwise you have to start at the beggining again.Just like the top left arrow in a web page.. < and >
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Yauqob
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Posted - 2011.01.27 22:36:00 -
[190]
I like the new search functions nut it might help a lot to have a drop down to see whats in the multiple item contracts instead of having to open each contract.
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Arkon Mar
Caldari
Cirque Du Freak
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Posted - 2011.01.27 22:57:00 -
[191]
Well I can see I am behind here, but i wanted to say I love the new contracts search beta, what an improvement, I have read through the other responses and there are so many good ideas i dont know how you guys are gonna fit em all in but keep up the good work, this is awesome.
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ChildOfDoom
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Posted - 2011.01.27 23:15:00 -
[192]
Why you removed "Item Type (Exact)" filed from new serach?
It was verry usefull and I used it all the tiem. Searching by description is sucks.
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Norrad
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Posted - 2011.01.27 23:16:00 -
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Loving this new system lots of good features.
one little thing i would like to see, there is an "exclude multi item" and "exclude auctions" but i would like an option to "only see want to buys" (WTB). some times i just want to sell quickly rather than wait for a cantract to sell so having the ability to only see WTB's would be awesome then having to scroll through all the item exchanges.
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ChildOfDoom
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Posted - 2011.01.27 23:21:00 -
[194]
Found it. :)
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Tropheus Moori
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Posted - 2011.01.27 23:22:00 -
[195]
Very nice. One suggestion - I would prefer seeing the Price and Time Left columns next to the Contract Item. So re-order the columns Contract, Price, Time Left, Location, Jumps...
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Dr BattleSmith
PAX Interstellar Services
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Posted - 2011.01.27 23:34:00 -
[196]
Can we have this guy working on Faction War? Seems he knows how to plan and code.
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Grawenn
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Posted - 2011.01.28 00:50:00 -
[197]
Nice for couriers. Especially like the color indicator of system security as it saves research time with unfamiliar system names. Also distance to pickup point and route length is a thing of beauty. How about adding an abbreviation or some coding for the destination region when it is not in the same as the pickup region.
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mogabe
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Posted - 2011.01.28 00:55:00 -
[198]
Not sure if anyone said this yet, but I can't input 0.2 and the like into reward and collateral fields in courier contracts and probably other places. Would be useful for newbies.
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Joost Caldari
Caldari
Joost Inventor Labs
Darkstar Conglomerate
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Posted - 2011.01.28 01:03:00 -
[199]
LOVE IT! 100 times better than the old one... Particularly like the fact that blueprints are now clearly indicated as original vs copy... No more scamming there. I'm never going back to the old search again :-)
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Lawan Jovana
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Posted - 2011.01.28 01:08:00 -
[200]
Not sure if this is related to the new contract system but a contract I have the highest bid on has been showing as 'less than an hour' for at least 6 hours now
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Corian Teranos
Caldari
Joint Espionage and Defence Industries
Preatoriani
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Posted - 2011.01.28 01:52:00 -
[201]
Edited by: Corian Teranos on 28/01/2011 01:55:02
right off the bat the biggest issue with the contract search is the fact that it defaults to current station which gave me the impression that the system simply didn't work outside the station untill i found out what was wrong
:Its all fun and games untill your logistics guy tries passive tanking his raven: |
Cassandra Elan
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Posted - 2011.01.28 02:18:00 -
[202]
If possible add an 'exclude blueprints' button, would help trim down the pile we sort through, especially if we have our own and aren't interested in buying copies.
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Liamn
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Posted - 2011.01.28 02:48:00 -
[203]
Two things:
1. I have a petition that hasn't been touched for 4 days regarding a particular contract. I hope it doesn't get lost in the shuffle of moving to this new system.
2. It would be nice to be able to right-click the station (pick up / drop off) and have the standard menu items: set destination, bookmark location, etc. It makes it much easier to determine if the route goes through high-sec, low-sec, null-sec.
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Keira Trefenwyd
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Posted - 2011.01.28 02:51:00 -
[204]
Edited by: Keira Trefenwyd on 28/01/2011 02:55:41
Nice addition guys, but you are missing some of the basic things we take for granted. 1. It would be nice if the function that allowed you to pull up specific items based on a fuzzy search was still included.
2. The ability to see the auctions in simple view. Otherwise it is just pretty pictures and a lot of wasted time.
3. Having a column that actually lists what type of auction it is, instead of having to mouse over each one seperately.
I'm hoping this is a very rough draft, otherwise i say it's FAIL! 
http://www.killboard.net/sigs/Keira Trefenwyd/ht_34/sig.gif |
Talthrus
EdgeGamers
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Posted - 2011.01.28 02:54:00 -
[205]
While the interface is very nice, I notice one thing that will bother me greatly: prices are no longer directly below item names.
With the old contract system, the most important information to me (item type and price) are listed together. I am able to scan straight down a list of contracts and gather all of the information I need without moving my eyes to the side.
With the new system, my eyes have to zig-zag in order to read the same information listed above. This makes it a lot harder for me to quickly absorb information and will be an annoyance to my style of trading. In fact, even with all of the nice features that the new system provides, I'd still rather use the old system because it makes the information I need more accessible.
CCP, please consider introducing a 'Legacy' view mode for the new contract system or at least let us customize/remove columns that we don't care about. Thanks!
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tool056
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Posted - 2011.01.28 03:03:00 -
[206]
Great job! and long over due.
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Talthrus
EdgeGamers
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Posted - 2011.01.28 03:50:00 -
[207]
I'm also noticing that the new contract search is not staying quite up to date with the latest contracts. I'm able to query contracts with the old system that don't appear in the new search system for several minutes. Is there some sort of strange caching going on or should I file a bug report about this? |
TheInside
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Posted - 2011.01.28 03:54:00 -
[208]
Features I would like:
1. Search by sec status both including and excluding feature (ie. null, hisec, nullsec)
2. Saving a contract to look at later, similar to quickbar in the Market.
3. Include/Exclude fitted ships and just hull.
4. Sort bpo vs bpc |
wakalaka
Information And Entropy
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Posted - 2011.01.28 04:34:00 -
[209]
There is a bug when ordering the auctions by Price/Ascending. It takes into consideration the "starting bid" number, instead of the "current bid" number.
Originally by: Talthrus
I'm also noticing that the new contract search is not staying quite up to date with the latest contracts. I'm able to query contracts with the old system that don't appear in the new search system for several minutes. Is there some sort of strange caching going on or should I file a bug report about this?
Confirming this cache bug. The new search system won't update with the server at every "search" button press. The cooldown looks to be about two minutes. Considering the old system was immediate at showing updated orders, this is bad and kills a faucet of the contract system (speed contract bargains).
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Nobani
Merch Industrial
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.01.28 05:41:00 -
[210]
- Availability should always be visible if there are items on alliance/corp contracts. For me (and probably a lot of other 0.0 dwellers) most "public" contracts are alliance-only.
- Contracts with multiple items should give some hint on the contents. Something like which market category the items fit in (or the name of the item, if there is only one item in that category in the contract). E.g. a fitted Maelstrom would show up as [Multiple Items] (Maelstrom, Ship Equipment, Shield Rigs), slave set as [Multiple Items] (Implants)
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