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Necrron
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Posted - 2010.12.31 23:25:00 -
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i don't care if somone talked about this before, it should be that way, somone steals what's yours, they should be ready to pay for it, that's it.
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Aiwha
Caldari 101st Space Marine Force Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2010.12.31 23:25:00 -
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Salvage is not yours until you salvage it.
Working as intended.
Gullible
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Necrron
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Posted - 2010.12.31 23:27:00 -
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it's mine if i blew up the ship it came from
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Aiwha
Caldari 101st Space Marine Force Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2010.12.31 23:28:00 -
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is not
Gullible
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Necrron
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Posted - 2010.12.31 23:30:00 -
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ya, say you, person who warps in and salvages loot before one can do it themself
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Necrron
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Posted - 2010.12.31 23:37:00 -
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if i blow something up, i spend money in ammo to blow it up, when i do missions it's not for other people it's for me, i get the ammo i blow things up, when my ammo hits targets whatever is left should be mine to collect, not for anyone that runs up to it first. and if that's it then i should be able to blow them up while they get away with my loot
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Necrron
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Posted - 2010.12.31 23:41:00 -
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simple really, you don't go to supermarket and claim items that you touched first, you have to pay for it, you shouldn't have to pay for things that other people take from you.
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Necrron
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Posted - 2010.12.31 23:48:00 -
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make ammo free of charge and i'll let people have my loot, i if have to pay for what i blow up, they should be ready for what follows after stealing, unless this game promotes stealing and being a pirate
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Genessas
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Posted - 2010.12.31 23:53:00 -
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the rule makes no sence how you swing it, so let's make it so when people take your junk you get to attack them, and that's it
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Scrapyard Attendant
Minmatar Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2010.12.31 23:54:00 -
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Delete this post, kill yourself, and maybe your idea will happen.
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Xia Shianggu
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Posted - 2010.12.31 23:55:00 -
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Originally by: Necrron make ammo free of charge
Use lasers.
Quote: unless this game promotes stealing and being a pirate
... You must be new here.
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Ikka Sunto
506972617465
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Posted - 2010.12.31 23:56:00 -
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Edited by: Ikka Sunto on 31/12/2010 23:57:23 What's with all the carebears whining about salvage lately? Just shut up and move faster. Your mission boats can't pvp, so be glad that salvaging doesn't get aggro, otherwise your boat would be blasted by "salvage-flippers" trying to get aggro. Stop whining and suck it up, it's better than losing your ship.
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Genessas
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Posted - 2011.01.01 00:17:00 -
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ha ha, well, this is not a flame heading towards people that have been playing for a while, at this point i can get my alt to loot missions, what a hell is that? I can get an alt in 2 weeks to clean up a lvl 4 mission, so anyone can do that too, come on how fair is that, people that did that mission should be able to fight back, i've been playing eve for 5 years now.
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Kazuma Ry
Amarr Knighthood of the Merciful Crown
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Posted - 2011.01.01 00:20:00 -
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Edited by: Kazuma Ry on 01/01/2011 00:22:10 Necrron,
The only thing in the wreck that you have any rights too is the loot.
The salvage from the wreck is free game, since to be able to get it, you have to salvage it, which gives you plenty of time to blow the wreck up if you want to prevent the person from salvaging it, or give you plenty of time to gank the salvager.
Also, you can not worry about the salvage and let the individual clean up the battle field for you, or you can move to a low population system where you don't have to deal with people scanning your mission out.
You have many options in preventing someone from taking the salvage before you can get to it, find which one works best for your play style and run with it. Otherwise quit whining about an issue that has already been beat to death.
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Genessas
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Posted - 2011.01.01 00:21:00 -
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Originally by: Scrapyard Attendant Delete this post, kill yourself, and maybe your idea will happen.
oh, that's rich
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Genessas
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Posted - 2011.01.01 00:35:00 -
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hmm, well, i'm not going to quit because i had to listen to people that goblin arouond and steal what's not theirs, cause that's all that all you are, face it, rules or not, we will see how that plays out, somone has to speak out, and ya, stealing is stealing no matter what you call it.
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Danifae Kemp
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Posted - 2011.01.01 00:50:00 -
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CCP has stated the loot inside the wreck that you created is yours....There is no amount of you crying is going to change that fact, I'm a lvl 4 mission runner and NEVER get ninja salvaged, if you can't figure out why that's your problem.
Yes I feel the salvage should be the person who created the wreck, HOWEVER that is not the case. DEAL WITH IT. If they steal your LOOT then shoot them, sick your drones on them and get out so they can't come back and kill you. Make them refit another ninja salvage ship, or get buddies sitting off grid so when you're attacked you gank their gank fleet.
Many ways to deal with it, this game is PVP oriented, it is NOT a solo game, yes you can do things solo, but groups are always better.
Adapt or die is all you can do!
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Spruillo
Gallente Spruillo Corp
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Posted - 2011.01.01 00:58:00 -
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K YOUV BEEN FOAMING AT THE MOUTH NOW FOR OVER AN HOUR SO LETS NERF ALL NINJA SALVAGING AND FORGET ABOUT ALL THE GOOD WE DO CAUSE NINJAD SALVAGE IS FREE YO AND i GUESS YOU DONT LIKE OUR CHEAP RIGS, AND I GUESS YOU DONT LIKE IT WHEN PPL LIKE ME KINDLY WARP IN LEGIONS CAUSE YOUR TAKING AGES TO KILL OUR SALVAGE I MEAN YOUR SALVAGE, AND WE'RE ALL JUST BORROWING THE PIXELS FROM CCP ANYWAYZ SO CHILL THE **** OUT MAN AND BE HAPPY ITS NEW YEARS GO EAT SOME ICE CREAM AND SETTLE DOWN K THNX BY
Originally by: CCP Big Dumb Object
When I nerf something, it takes 2-3 months for your dreams to be crushed.
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Kazuma Ry
Amarr Knighthood of the Merciful Crown
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Posted - 2011.01.01 00:59:00 -
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Edited by: Kazuma Ry on 01/01/2011 01:00:34 Here it is:
Orginally posted by Captain Yifan on 2010.08.02 in the Stealing Salvage Post
Per CCP Mitnal: Originally by: CCP Mitnal -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Our policy on this is extremely clear... Salvaging is a mini-profession within EVE and does not constitute stealing." --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Per GM Faolchu : Originally by: GM Faolchu -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Salvaging other peoples wrecks.... This is an intended game mechanic and is in no way an exploit. People salvaging your missions npcs or the player you just blew up are doing nothing wrong. The players are salvaging what is effectively floating rubbish in space and Concord places no value on this wreckage. Eve is a harsh place you won't always have everything go your way, its a do or die world and people do what they can to get along. If salvaging some wreckage gets them a few more ISK someone will do it, it doesn't matter who just blew it up. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Per Senior GM Ytterbium : Originally by: GM Ytterbium -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Players are still completely free to salvage other pilot wrecks at will ... and doing so is not considered as an exploit. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Per CCP Prism X : Originally by: CCP Prism X -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Why is stealing salvage OK? It's not. It shouldn't even be possible to move an item from your cargo-hold / hanger to another persons cargo-hold / hanger without opening a trade window. Before the salvage enters those containers it is not considered your stuff by the server code. Hence it's not stealing. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Per CCP Incognito : Originally by: CCP Incognito -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Had a chat with some designers this evening. Ninja salvaging is intended game play. It was always intended that the wrecks are public, the loot is private. They do not see it as a problem if others salvage your wrecks. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
(These quotes are kept handy for your convenience at Ironfleet.com.)
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Genessas
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Posted - 2011.01.01 01:00:00 -
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wow, so none of you can see that people that are looling your feild can sit there and laugh at you cause you can't attack them, you can't stop them from taking your salvage, and all you can do is just sit there and blow it up as they come close to it to **** them off, for taking what's yours in a first place, and everyone is ok with this and, i'm and idiot for saying that it's wrong.
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Genessas
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Posted - 2011.01.01 01:03:00 -
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20 mechanics can call it whatever they want it, it's still wrong
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Spruillo
Gallente Spruillo Corp
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Posted - 2011.01.01 01:06:00 -
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Edited by: Spruillo on 01/01/2011 01:09:18
Originally by: Genessas wow, so none of you can see that people that are looling your feild can sit there and laugh at you cause you can't attack them, you can't stop them from taking your salvage, and all you can do is just sit there and blow it up as they come close to it to **** them off, for taking what's yours in a first place, and everyone is ok with this and, i'm and idiot for saying that it's wrong.
Who said your an idiot other than your throwing an temper tantrum and who said you where wrong in theory didnt you get the lecture about fairness in eve the first time you got blowed up ina failfit mining ship or did you miss that part.
and how often do ppl crash your dumb mission anyway what 1 outta 20 1 outta 40? Ignore them and finish your mission and go get anotherone and get some pie or something and chill out b4 you blow a anuerism and be glad spank doesnt seem 2 be around lately shed set your ass straight quick{cringes}
Originally by: CCP Big Dumb Object
When I nerf something, it takes 2-3 months for your dreams to be crushed.
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Kazuma Ry
Amarr Knighthood of the Merciful Crown
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Posted - 2011.01.01 01:09:00 -
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Originally by: Genessas 20 mechanics can call it whatever they want it, it's still wrong
Yes but in this case, these mechanics built this game to have this feature, and it's working as intended.
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Genessas
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Posted - 2011.01.01 01:10:00 -
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well, if we all lay down and fold, they can run us over. speak up, saying what they said or who ever else did, who gives, it's what people that are playing have to say. watch my account get deleted tomorrow :)
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Kazuma Ry
Amarr Knighthood of the Merciful Crown
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Posted - 2011.01.01 01:12:00 -
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Originally by: Genessas well, if we all lay down and fold, they can run us over. speak up, saying what they said or who ever else did, who gives, it's what people that are playing have to say. watch my account get deleted tomorrow :)
Can I have your stuff?
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Genessas
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Posted - 2011.01.01 01:19:00 -
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lol, yes, i should know better than that, still, i feel that it has to be said, and vented, maybe somone will give a damn about it.
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Gregor Vernof
Voodoo Tactical Ghost Syndicate.
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Posted - 2011.01.01 01:21:00 -
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... quick, there might still be some flesh on that horse to flay....
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Spruillo
Gallente Spruillo Corp
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Posted - 2011.01.01 01:30:00 -
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Originally by: Gregor Vernof ... quick, there might still be some flesh on that horse to flay....
Its mine I got t2 salvagers
Originally by: CCP Big Dumb Object
When I nerf something, it takes 2-3 months for your dreams to be crushed.
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Genessas
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Posted - 2011.01.01 01:30:00 -
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happy new years everyone! i might be wrong accoring to eve code, this is what i think, and if somone steals your junk, they should pay for it one way or another, anyways, happy holydays to everyone! no need to go blue and spaz over it cause it's not up to us. good health, friends, and all the best to everyone in the new year!
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Spruillo
Gallente Spruillo Corp
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Posted - 2011.01.01 01:40:00 -
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Originally by: Genessas happy new years everyone! i might be wrong accoring to eve code, this is what i think, and if somone steals your junk, they should pay for it one way or another, anyways, happy holydays to everyone! no need to go blue and spaz over it cause it's not up to us. good health, friends, and all the best to everyone in the new year!
Good thing yur settled down then cause im using my locater agents on you now for some of that tasty salvage it must be good as much as you cried over it
Originally by: CCP Big Dumb Object
When I nerf something, it takes 2-3 months for your dreams to be crushed.
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