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DuKackBoon
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Posted - 2011.01.01 01:40:00 -
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Not only wrong according to the game code, but according to the game rules.
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Jovan Geldon
Gallente Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire
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Posted - 2011.01.01 01:42:00 -
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Originally by: Genessas if somone steals your junk, they should pay for it one way or another
Exactly what are you having difficulty grasping about this concept? It's NOT YOURS until you salvage it. You may as well ask for aggression rights when someone mines the same asteroid as you.
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Genessas
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Posted - 2011.01.01 02:04:00 -
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k, this is going to keep going now, do you blow up an asteroid before you mine it? what a heck are you talking about, stop defending crazy rule to start with.
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Genessas
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Posted - 2011.01.01 02:15:00 -
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ok, this is what it boils down to, why, should i do my own missions if i could make a half arse alt that can salvage and steal from people, it wrecks the game for everyone, i can fly around and suck up the feild, what's the point of training to be able to blow up lvl 4 mission mobs if you can just go in and salvage the place with no drawbacks after a month of playing, come on, you can't tell me that's fair, unless you want to be a jerk
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Lady Skank
Ban Evasion inc
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Posted - 2011.01.01 02:16:00 -
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Yes salvaging a wreck that somebody else killed should trigger kill rights and anyone who says otherwise is in fact a care bear that is frightened of pvp and the real reason CCP wont implement this is how it turned out after miners begged for people who took from their cans to be flagged which completely backfired on the miners as they in turn end up being killed instead of the great justice they imagined.
This is precisely the reason I want flagging for salvage "theft" because salvaging somebody else's wrecks makes people mad enough to shoot without thinking.
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Genessas
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Posted - 2011.01.01 02:26:00 -
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lets say somone robs you, takes all your money, and somone tells you that's ok, would you take their explanation for it or would you try to make it fair? well....
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Spruillo
Gallente Spruillo Corp
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Posted - 2011.01.01 02:34:00 -
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Edited by: Spruillo on 01/01/2011 02:34:05
Originally by: Genessas ok, this is what it boils down to, why, should i do my own missions if i could make a half arse alt that can salvage and steal from people
The derp is strong in this one obviously youve never tried any ninja salvaging yourself, the time it takes to both find a good mission, then ass around usually with ab only 50km from bs wreck to bs wreck, it is 10 times more efficient to get your own mission and make your own salvage which can then be tractored Not to mention the bounties and lp
Ninja salvaging is fun, in and of itself, but if you intend to actually make real ISK in the field, baiting and ganking the missioner and his mission boat fits are the real end game.
Originally by: CCP Big Dumb Object
When I nerf something, it takes 2-3 months for your dreams to be crushed.
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Genessas
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Posted - 2011.01.01 02:34:00 -
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trust me, it's not a crare bear thing, caue if somone is sucking up the feild of salvage while i'm still killing mobs, all i want to do is blow them up to peaces, doesn't matter what they come back with, but you don't have that option since they have to loot first., and what is the difference, they will take 10k in loot, but they are salvaging few mils in loot.
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Aiwha
Caldari 101st Space Marine Force Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2011.01.01 02:48:00 -
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is not.
Gullible
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Genessas
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Posted - 2011.01.01 02:59:00 -
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k, going to party, happy new year! and nex time you get somone to come over to you and ask for money, you better give it to them, cause that's the rules. or maybe you shoud think for yourself.... oh, wait, you can't caue that's the rules, well, what's left then other than to biotch about it :) and hope that somone that makes the rules will change something :) one can only hope :)
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Birdman Ravo
Legion of The Birds
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Posted - 2011.01.01 02:59:00 -
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I agree with the OP for once. Activating an aggression timer on wreck salvaging will cause chaos in my beloved carebear community. More red, more wrecks, more tears, more yar. I'm all for that.
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Genessas
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Posted - 2011.01.01 03:12:00 -
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well, this is one of my 4 alts in 6 years of game play now, so i can care less about bears. what ****es me off is that you can take something from somone and get away with it, I don't care how you explain it, it's freaken stealing, if it was up in space floading, yey, great, take it, but if i have to fight for it, **** off.... i should be able to kill you for taking it from me.
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Jovan Geldon
Gallente Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire
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Posted - 2011.01.01 03:38:00 -
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Originally by: Genessas I don't care how you explain it, it's freaken stealing
*sigh* It isn't stealing because IT ISN'T YOURS UNTIL YOU SALVAGE IT; if someone else salvages it first, it becomes theirs. I don't know how I can phrase this in any simpler terms.
Your opinion is worthless. This is how things work, as backed up by numerous devs and GMs on multiple occasions, and it isn't going to change.
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StonerPhReaK
Imperial Tau Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.01.01 04:31:00 -
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Originally by: Genessas if somone is sucking up the feild of salvage while i'm still killing mobs, all i want to do is blow them up to peaces,
My question to you good sir...is with all this anger..Do you not really just want peace in your mission?
Then deal with it.
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AeroPRIDE
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Posted - 2011.01.01 05:10:00 -
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Originally by: Jovan Geldon
Originally by: Genessas I don't care how you explain it, it's freaken stealing
*sigh* It isn't stealing because IT ISN'T YOURS UNTIL YOU SALVAGE IT; if someone else salvages it first, it becomes theirs. I don't know how I can phrase this in any simpler terms.
Your opinion is worthless. This is how things work, as backed up by numerous devs and GMs on multiple occasions, and it isn't going to change.
the logic used on the salvage issue is made of fail. In the same breath you could say loot isnt yours until you loot the can and put it in your ship. If anyone gets there first its theirs. Either make ALL obtainable loot from wrecks yours or none at all. The logic is just so half assed.
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Ozone Roy
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Posted - 2011.01.01 05:27:00 -
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This has to be a troll, I refuse to believe anyone is this stupid.
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Toffee Stunner
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2011.01.01 05:49:00 -
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Oh hai guys!!!
Just wanted to say that it gives me tight pants every time I see one of these threads.
I mean it compels me to find mission runners and salvage my wrecks faster... and faster... and faster till I have to release all that salvage all over my hanger bay!
Till next time boys!!!
- <3 Toffee Stunner
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De'Veldrin
Minmatar Green-Core The Obsidian Legion
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Posted - 2011.01.01 06:22:00 -
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Every time I see one of these threads it makes me want to swear and throw things. --Vel
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Panda Name
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Posted - 2011.01.01 06:33:00 -
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Originally by: De'Veldrin Every time I see one of these threads it makes me want to swear and throw things.
i, too, feel that salvage should be the property of the shooter.
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Gaven Darklighter
Gallente The Athiest Syndicate Advocated Destruction
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Posted - 2011.01.01 07:21:00 -
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If someone is stealing your salvage I can only assume you are placing it in a jetcan as the wrecks do not contain salvage. The wrecks however belong to the npc faction you are fighting technically, so maybe you should consider that. Not sure what is not being understood time and time again when these threads are created. Saying the game mechanics are wrong and should be changed is like saying you should be able to change your ship bonuses or you should be able to scoop roids into your cargo and take them straight to station or maybe we should change concords reaction time and force to something more realistic so i can gank more people in hogh sec. Go play a different game if you don't like the rules of this one. Eve has it's own law system get over it.
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Riedle
Minmatar Paradox Collective Black Legion.
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Posted - 2011.01.01 13:27:00 -
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Originally by: Genessas wow, so none of you can see that people that are looling your feild can sit there and laugh at you cause you can't attack them, you can't stop them from taking your salvage, and all you can do is just sit there and blow it up as they come close to it to **** them off, for taking what's yours in a first place, and everyone is ok with this and, i'm and idiot for saying that it's wrong.
Confirming - you are an idiot
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Skram
Stormvanger Aerospace
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Posted - 2011.01.01 18:09:00 -
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Originally by: Gaven Darklighter If someone is stealing your salvage I can only assume you are placing it in a jetcan as the wrecks do not contain salvage. The wrecks however belong to the npc faction you are fighting technically, so maybe you should consider that. Not sure what is not being understood time and time again when these threads are created. Saying the game mechanics are wrong and should be changed is like saying you should be able to change your ship bonuses or you should be able to scoop roids into your cargo and take them straight to station or maybe we should change concords reaction time and force to something more realistic so i can gank more people in hogh sec. Go play a different game if you don't like the rules of this one. Eve has it's own law system get over it.
I like this one, because then you can point out to the OP that by their logic, if you run into a car and total it with your car, the car you ran into is now your property. Salvage is garbage in space belonging to the NPC faction, anyone who salvages it is stealing from the NPC faction.
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Millie Clode
Amarr Insert Cool Name Here
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Posted - 2011.01.01 18:36:00 -
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yay another "waaaah, salvagers!" thread. It's like 2009 all over again ---------- Who, me? |
Zeta Zhul
Caldari Preemptive Paranoia
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Posted - 2011.01.01 18:48:00 -
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Hmmmm.
Anybody whining about salvaging is someone who is wasting their time ... salvaging.
Seriously WTF are you thinking? Check the amount of time you're wasting on looting wrecks and salvaging vs completing missions for standing, faction & bounties.
Do the frigging math.
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Ultim8Evil
Black Serpent Technologies R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2011.01.01 19:54:00 -
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Originally by: Necrron ya, say you, person who warps in and salvages loot before one can do it themself
No, says CCP with the current aggro mechanics.
Salvaging working as intended. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Lady Skank
Ban Evasion inc
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Posted - 2011.01.01 21:20:00 -
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Originally by: Jovan Geldon
Originally by: Genessas I don't care how you explain it, it's freaken stealing
*sigh* It isn't stealing because IT ISN'T YOURS UNTIL YOU SALVAGE IT; if someone else salvages it first, it becomes theirs. I don't know how I can phrase this in any simpler terms.
Your opinion is worthless. This is how things work, as backed up by numerous devs and GMs on multiple occasions, and it isn't going to change.
Have you ever tried to use a tractor beam on a wreck that you did not create yourself? you get a nice little message about how the wreck does not belong to you, have you also tried shooting a wreck that you did not create yourself in highsec or lowsec? you get a GCC for it, even when the wreck is empty and contains no loot so wrecks do actually belong to somebody.
Like I said the real reason CCP wont change it is not because they believe salvage should be a free for all its because the way canflipping turned out, the miners who begged for taking from a jetcan to trigger killrights soon saw how their plan backfired on them and CCP don't want to repeat it as they have slowly but surely removed as many ways for people to trigger highsec killrights as possible.
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Ildryn
do you -Mostly Harmless-
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Posted - 2011.01.01 22:39:00 -
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Wrecks are space junk. The person that turns it into salvage using a module is the new owner. The items contained in the wreck are not space junk. They are modules or ammo ready to use and your property for destroying them.
The reason you can not tractor another persons wreck is because of the loot it contains. Not the salvage that could be contained inside.
The GMs and Devs have all decided this is the rule. Live with it or post in Assembly Hall.
Stop whining.
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Sainrin
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Posted - 2011.01.01 23:34:00 -
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Im a bit sore about my ship getting sui ganked and me loosing out 700misk. Can we complain about this also?
What i want to know, why isnt anyone thinking about the poor people in the ship that got blown up? THERE REAL PEOPLE TOO!
seriously if u dont like getting can flipped or ninja looted. join an alliance and come to null sec -.- jeez
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar The Python Cartel.
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Posted - 2011.01.01 23:50:00 -
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Very very successful troll thread
*golf clap* Signature removed for not being EVE related. Zymurgist |
Seras Athran
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Posted - 2011.01.01 23:51:00 -
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Originally by: Lady Skank the wreck does not belong to you
The wreck belongs to whoever blew up the ship it came from. The salvage belongs to whoever gets it frst.
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