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V'hellu	Posted - 2011.01.07 20:58:00 - [1] Edited by: V''hellu on 07/01/2011 21:03:48 Frightening I have one simple request. Do not make everyone with female characters make characters as the above. That is an old, ugly man in drag, that is not a female. Again, left portrait is female. Right portrait is hideous. I honestly haven't seen any more images that are much better in the department of hideous man-in-drag looking female (no insults to transvestites intended, as I mean the man himself is already ugly, and now it's rather emphasized in drag). Anywho, make the women look like women plz, ccp. Thank you.
Sader Rykane Amarr Midnight Sentinels Midnight Space Syndicate	Posted - 2011.01.07 21:01:00 - [2] Honestly people having been making some pretty fugly looking females with the creator. Makes me feel better because I'll feel like I'll have the only decent looking avatar in the game.
Destination SkillQueue Are We There Yet	Posted - 2011.01.07 21:03:00 - [3] It's because the person who did the new portrait chose many male/non-feminine features for the avatar or he just didn't know what makes a woman look like a woman.
V'hellu	Posted - 2011.01.07 21:05:00 - [4] Edited by: V''hellu on 07/01/2011 21:04:49 Originally by: Destination SkillQueue It's because the person who did the new portrait chose many male/non-feminine features for the avatar or he just didn't know what makes a woman look like a woman. I would agree, if this was the only absolutely frightening looking female character I've seen... Or if I had seen any attractive female characters at all...
Terazul Gallente	Posted - 2011.01.07 21:15:00 - [5] I was under the impression the whole point of that character was to create someone who's, well, ugly. The strong jaw, sunken-in cheeks, the indifferent expression... yeah, not exactly what people would consider attractive in any case. And that's the point. Right? It's not like it's very hard to create an attractive-looking female. But it's also boring, depending on who you ask...
TimMc Brutal Deliverance Extreme Prejudice.	Posted - 2011.01.07 21:19:00 - [6] Spent ages looking for the video again, but alas cannot find it. There was a video of someone using the character creator to make a (very hot) female avatar. Looked kinda suicide girl ish with orange/black hair and makeup.
KWyz	Posted - 2011.01.07 21:19:00 - [7] Perhaps a tutorial should be included with the character creator? I'm sure fairness demands letting people create ugly women, but since it's a lot easier to screw the portrait than to make it likable (the old editor: look at my girl, i tried REALLY hard to make her less shiny and failed miserably) something like a detailed guide would be great to have. Or maybe a direct link to the already great guides found out there. Linkage
Professor Tarantula Hedion University	Posted - 2011.01.07 21:24:00 - [8] Originally by: Destination SkillQueue It's because the person who did the new portrait chose many male/non-feminine features for the avatar or he just didn't know what makes a woman look like a woman. It might actually be a good test to find people who are repressing homosexual desires. My Warmest Regards. Prof. Tarantula, Esq.
Jagga Spikes Minmatar Spikes Chop Shop	Posted - 2011.01.07 21:26:00 - [9] ugly is not bad. i want variety. and it's entirely possible to make some pretty characters. there is plenty of examples floating around. ________________________________ : Forum Bore 'Em : Foamy The Squirrel - [jedi handwave] "There is no spoon."
KWyz	Posted - 2011.01.07 21:28:00 - [10] Em...this just struck me. Having so much power to sculpt a face, has anyone tried copying his own face on the creator? would LOVE to see some results. I have a feeling this could become a whole new hobby in EVE, drawing people's faces for their avatars...for the right amount of isk ;)

Joshua Deakin	Posted - 2011.01.07 21:28:00 - [11] Edited by: Joshua Deakin on 07/01/2011 21:28:54 Originally by: Sader Rykane Honestly people having been making some pretty fugly looking females with the creator. Makes me feel better because I'll feel like I'll have the only decent looking avatar in the game. I guess the beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I wonder how many think the following are not attractive vs. good looking? Here's a couple that I thought were pleasing looking at least for me. The latter especially is the type for me, the first was a recreation of another users avatar: (Just made the Deteis with the newest creator which doesn't allow to use the portrait mode, blank screen)
Sinister Dextor	Posted - 2011.01.07 21:30:00 - [12] Originally by: Professor Tarantula Originally by: Destination SkillQueue It's because the person who did the new portrait chose many male/non-feminine features for the avatar or he just didn't know what makes a woman look like a woman. It might actually be a good test to find people who are repressing homosexual desires. Is there supposed to be any thinking behind this dumb comment? Or did you just have a strong unconscious desire to talk about repressed homosexuality?
Professor Tarantula Hedion University	Posted - 2011.01.07 21:33:00 - [13] Originally by: Sinister Dextor Originally by: Professor Tarantula Originally by: Destination SkillQueue It's because the person who did the new portrait chose many male/non-feminine features for the avatar or he just didn't know what makes a woman look like a woman. It might actually be a good test to find people who are repressing homosexual desires. Is there supposed to be any thinking behind this dumb comment? Or did you just have a strong unconscious desire to talk about repressed homosexuality? From a psychological standpoint i find it interesting it made you angry. Why is that? My reasoning is that someone who is attracted to male features, but is in denial about it, will add those features to a female he is trying to make attractive. My Warmest Regards. Prof. Tarantula, Esq.
Ephemeron The Dirty Dozen	Posted - 2011.01.07 21:36:00 - [14] In my opinion men who make female characters for themselves are *s Nothing against *s personally, but that's just what you are
Sinister Dextor	Posted - 2011.01.07 21:42:00 - [15] Originally by: Professor Tarantula Originally by: Sinister Dextor Originally by: Professor Tarantula Originally by: Destination SkillQueue It's because the person who did the new portrait chose many male/non-feminine features for the avatar or he just didn't know what makes a woman look like a woman. It might actually be a good test to find people who are repressing homosexual desires. Is there supposed to be any thinking behind this dumb comment? Or did you just have a strong unconscious desire to talk about repressed homosexuality? From a psychological standpoint i find it interesting it made you angry. Why is that? My reasoning is that someone who is attracted to male features, but is in denial about it, will add those features to a female he is trying to make attractive. Then I was right, you are dumb.
KWyz	Posted - 2011.01.07 21:42:00 - [16] Because everyone likes staring in the bland eyes of an old, scarred, drugged-out pirate thug when they look at their character screen. That's like looking down on people in WoW for choosing an elf girl because they hate staring at the ass of an orc for most of their gaming experience.
eek amouse	Posted - 2011.01.07 21:55:00 - [17] Originally by: KWyz Because everyone likes staring in the bland eyes of an old, scarred, drugged-out pirate thug when they look at their character screen. That's like looking down on people in WoW for choosing an elf girl because they hate staring at the ass of an orc for most of their gaming experience. who even looks at their avatar? i have that collapsed on my char sheet. biggest image of my avatar i see is in chat windows. and really, if you're making a female character in a video game to be able check out the polygonal backside of a digital cartoon, you've got issues.
Dante Marcellus Minmatar Belligerent Underpayed Tactical Team	Posted - 2011.01.07 21:57:00 - [18] Edited by: Dante Marcellus on 07/01/2011 21:59:13 Oh reary? This is my cov. ops babe from my 2nd account via the 2nd testing phase: Meryl And my Trader: Nuhm And if you're reading this, you've fallen into a signature trap. You owe me 1m ISK.
Jagga Spikes Minmatar Spikes Chop Shop	Posted - 2011.01.07 21:58:00 - [19] Edited by: Jagga Spikes on 07/01/2011 21:59:33 i think CCP example looks perfectly as some bean-counter perspective-less middle-aged station trader stuck with updating market orders for all day :) edit: clarified ________________________________ : Forum Bore 'Em : Foamy The Squirrel - [jedi handwave] "There is no spoon."
V'hellu	Posted - 2011.01.07 21:59:00 - [20] Edited by: V''hellu on 07/01/2011 22:00:00 Originally by: eek amouse Originally by: KWyz Because everyone likes staring in the bland eyes of an old, scarred, drugged-out pirate thug when they look at their character screen. That's like looking down on people in WoW for choosing an elf girl because they hate staring at the ass of an orc for most of their gaming experience. who even looks at their avatar? i have that collapsed on my char sheet. biggest image of my avatar i see is in chat windows. and really, if you're making a female character in a video game to be able check out the polygonal backside of a digital cartoon, you've got issues. You do realize this is a discussion based on the incursion avatar system, right? Which will be used in the Incarna expansion, right?? So then those of us who walk around the stations will be looking at our avatar a LOT whether we want to or not. Hence some of us might just make a female avatar for that reason alone, as opposed to making a male avatar where we couldn't care less on sculpting the avatar. It's just a preference, and if you don't want to be part of WIS, fine, but don't go around and say that those who make avatars that they would like to look at have issues, it just shows how stupid you are... EDIT @ Dante: erm.. I hate to be rude, but try again...

Ephemeron The Dirty Dozen	Posted - 2011.01.07 22:03:00 - [21] It's same thing as man dressing up as a woman simply cause he thinks he looks prettier that way you can do it in privacy of your own home, but when you go outside like that, it's rather nasty. If you are a man, you better look like a man.
Dante Marcellus Minmatar Belligerent Underpayed Tactical Team	Posted - 2011.01.07 22:06:00 - [22] Originally by: V'hellu EDIT @ Dante: erm.. I hate to be rude, but try again... It's ok :p I think they look pretty good, but then again, I didn't have access to the newer things that are available now. And if you're reading this, you've fallen into a signature trap. You owe me 1m ISK.
TimMc Brutal Deliverance Extreme Prejudice.	Posted - 2011.01.07 22:08:00 - [23] Originally by: Dante Marcellus Edited by: Dante Marcellus on 07/01/2011 21:59:13 Oh reary? This is my cov. ops babe from my 2nd account via the 2nd testing phase: Meryl And my Trader: Nuhm both ugly but that might have been because 2nd phase.
eek amouse	Posted - 2011.01.07 22:10:00 - [24] Edited by: eek amouse on 07/01/2011 22:12:24 Originally by: V'hellu Edited by: V''hellu on 07/01/2011 22:00:00 Originally by: eek amouse Originally by: KWyz Because everyone likes staring in the bland eyes of an old, scarred, drugged-out pirate thug when they look at their character screen. That's like looking down on people in WoW for choosing an elf girl because they hate staring at the ass of an orc for most of their gaming experience. who even looks at their avatar? i have that collapsed on my char sheet. biggest image of my avatar i see is in chat windows. and really, if you're making a female character in a video game to be able check out the polygonal backside of a digital cartoon, you've got issues. You do realize this is a discussion based on the incursion avatar system, right? Which will be used in the Incarna expansion, right?? So then those of us who walk around the stations will be looking at our avatar a LOT whether we want to or not. Hence some of us might just make a female avatar for that reason alone, as opposed to making a male avatar where we couldn't care less on sculpting the avatar. It's just a preference, and if you don't want to be part of WIS, fine, but don't go around and say that those who make avatars that they would like to look at have issues, it just shows how stupid you are... EDIT @ Dante: erm.. I hate to be rude, but try again... hey, buddy. you realize the person i quoted was talking about starring at their current character screen avatar right? right? yea and if you want to roleplay as the opposite sex. yea. issues.
Selinate Amarr Wardens of the Void	Posted - 2011.01.07 22:12:00 - [25] Originally by: eek amouse hey, buddy. you realize the person i quoted was talking about starring at their current character screen avatar right? right? yea No, this is about the Incursion character creator. Please, keep your ideas to yourself as they are not worth any value at all.
eek amouse	Posted - 2011.01.07 22:14:00 - [26] i'm sure you'll have fun ****ing to your new avatar.
Selinate Amarr Wardens of the Void	Posted - 2011.01.07 22:14:00 - [27] Originally by: eek amouse i'm sure you'll have fun ****ing to your new avatar. Thanks for proving my point that your opinions don't have any value. Again, keep them to yourself.
KWyz	Posted - 2011.01.07 22:18:00 - [28] Not that this will generate any decent replies( /trollsign) but I guess you think the only reason someone would ever want an avatar of a gender different than their own is because of some misplaced desires. Let me give you an example as to why some people make such a choice: the female fighter pilot in the X-men 2 aircraft chase scene. Totally. Badass.
eek amouse	Posted - 2011.01.07 22:19:00 - [29] Originally by: Selinate Originally by: eek amouse i'm sure you'll have fun ****ing to your new avatar. Thanks for proving my point that your opinions don't have any value. Again, keep them to yourself. how often do you just stop and stare into your avatar's eyes and get the urge?
eek amouse	Posted - 2011.01.07 22:22:00 - [30] 2-3 times a day?

Dante Marcellus Minmatar Belligerent Underpayed Tactical Team	Posted - 2011.01.07 22:23:00 - [31] Originally by: eek amouse i'm sure you'll have fun ****ing to your new avatar. You know it's comments and close-minded views like the ones you've posted that remind me of the mind-vomit we all know as the WoW forums. Who cares what gender your avatar is. Complaining to other people about their choices is like being a right wing tard. And if you're reading this, you've fallen into a signature trap. You owe me 1m ISK.
Bodessia Sandy Castle Bordom Conglomerate	Posted - 2011.01.07 22:24:00 - [32] Originally by: Sinister Dextor Originally by: Professor Tarantula Originally by: Sinister Dextor It might actually be a good test to find people who are repressing homosexual desires. Is there supposed to be any thinking behind this dumb comment? Or did you just have a strong unconscious desire to talk about repressed homosexuality? From a psychological standpoint i find it interesting it made you angry. Why is that? My reasoning is that someone who is attracted to male features, but is in denial about it, will add those features to a female he is trying to make attractive. Then I was right, you are dumb. lol. I'm now convinced 100% that you're a homosexual. Everyone else should be to.
Destination SkillQueue Are We There Yet	Posted - 2011.01.07 22:31:00 - [33] It's fascinating what a simple thread about an average looking avatar picture can turn into. PS. Also, confirming that Sinister Dextor totally outed himself.
Selinate Amarr Wardens of the Void	Posted - 2011.01.07 22:32:00 - [34] Edited by: Selinate on 07/01/2011 22:32:57 Originally by: Destination SkillQueue It's fascinating what a simple thread about an average looking avatar picture can turn into. one finger on the report button Some folks just need a permaban... Also, I disagree. That avatar is not average looking. It's hideous imo...
Syn Callibri Minmatar 21st Eridani Lighthorse Broken Chains Alliance	Posted - 2011.01.07 22:33:00 - [35] LOLZ...Its hysterical that people seem to think that a woman that looks "hard" or "jaded" with any kind of masculine facial attributes is the result of repressed sexual issues. Everyone knows that all women look just like super models straight off the cover of sports illustrated's swimsuit issue right? [21EL] Commander Tac-Ops / [21EL] I.S.C.
V'hellu	Posted - 2011.01.07 22:36:00 - [36] Originally by: Syn Callibri LOLZ...Its hysterical that people seem to think that a woman that looks "hard" or "jaded" with any kind of masculine facial attributes is the result of repressed sexual issues. Everyone knows that all women look just like super models straight off the cover of sports illustrated's swimsuit issue right? Indeed. However, just as not all women look like super models (a rare occasion), not many women look just like a man in drag (also a rare occasion). I would like to see a character creator that makes it simple to make all 3 options (ugly, average, and gorgeous). Unfortunately, 99% of what I see is ugly to me, and that's my biggest problem.
Sinister Dextor	Posted - 2011.01.07 22:45:00 - [37] Originally by: Destination SkillQueue It's fascinating what a simple thread about an average looking avatar picture can turn into. PS. Also, confirming that Sinister Dextor totally outed himself. I am indeed homosexual, but neither repressed, nor a 'him'. So, whats your point now?
Syn Callibri Minmatar 21st Eridani Lighthorse Broken Chains Alliance	Posted - 2011.01.07 22:48:00 - [38] Edited by: Syn Callibri on 07/01/2011 22:49:01 Originally by: Sinister Dextor Originally by: Destination SkillQueue It's fascinating what a simple thread about an average looking avatar picture can turn into. PS. Also, confirming that Sinister Dextor totally outed himself. I am indeed homosexual, but neither repressed, nor a 'him'. So, whats your point now? HA HA HA HA HA HA...+1 to you Dextor. [21EL] Commander Tac-Ops / [21EL] I.S.C.
Mimulouse	Posted - 2011.01.07 22:51:00 - [39] I know I'm going to miss a lot of toons... like Backdoor Bandit, Busty Brianne, etc...
PTang	Posted - 2011.01.07 22:51:00 - [40] Edited by: PTang on 07/01/2011 22:52:49 t you're bubble, but as someone how lives in the real world that is exactly what german women in their 30/40's look like. Which is what women look like. Get out of your moms basement, I bet you meet less women per day in real life than you see pictures of on TV or on the internet. am I right? Quote: not many women look just like an ugly man in drag she doesn't look like that at all. You must hae no idea what women look like in real life, you poor soul.

V'hellu	Posted - 2011.01.07 22:56:00 - [41] Edited by: V''hellu on 07/01/2011 22:57:04 Edited by: V''hellu on 07/01/2011 22:56:10 Originally by: PTang t you're bubble, but as someone how lives in the real world that is exactly what german women in their 30/40's look like. Which is what women look like. Get out of your moms basement, I bet you meet less women per day in real life than you see pictures of on TV or on the internet. am I right? .... I think most people meet less women per day than they see in pictures on TV or the internet, unless you manage to meet around 50 women a day... by the end of the year, you'd run out of women to meet. You think this is abnormal? Try counting all the different women you see on T.V. in a given half hour to full hour. Nice try on the insult, though... kind of pathetic that you have to resort to personal attacks. Anywho, I'm sorry for your ugly women. American women look much better than that, along with women of every other nationality. Over here, if I saw a woman like that, guess what I would think. It's a man. I'm pretty sure any American would agree with this, also.
PTang	Posted - 2011.01.07 23:02:00 - [42] Edited by: PTang on 07/01/2011 23:03:14 Originally by: V'hellu Edited by: V''hellu on 07/01/2011 22:57:04 Edited by: V''hellu on 07/01/2011 22:56:10 Originally by: PTang t you're bubble, but as someone how lives in the real world that is exactly what german women in their 30/40's look like. Which is what women look like. Get out of your moms basement, I bet you meet less women per day in real life than you see pictures of on TV or on the internet. am I right? .... I think most people meet less women per day than they see in pictures on TV or the internet, unless you manage to meet around 50 women a day... by the end of the year, you'd run out of women to meet. You think this is abnormal? Try counting all the different women you see on T.V. in a given half hour to full hour. Nice try on the insult, though... kind of pathetic that you have to resort to personal attacks. Anywho, I'm sorry for your ugly women. American women look much better than that, along with women of every other nationality. Over here, if I saw a woman like that, guess what I would think. It's a man. I'm pretty sure any American would agree with this, also. It's not an insult, it's a point. If you see 50 women on TV or the internet a day, and then like 10 or 20 outside of the internet and TV, only 3-4 of those women outside will look like those on TV. Thus, you'r idea of what makes a women look like a women is skewed. It's not an insult. I don't watch TV, I do not own one. I watch movies, but the number of pretty women I see, is much lower than average looking women. If you see the top 5% example of women 90% of the time. As TV has made it very easy to do so, your perspective is skewed. Not an insult. also anyone that works retail meets far more than 50 women I day... I would hope.
James Giovanni	Posted - 2011.01.07 23:09:00 - [43] Here's a good example of what Ptang is talking about. http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/080716/style/GI-Jane-Demi-Moore_l.jpg Alien was one of the few movies not afraid to let an actor look like one of those women like make up the other 90% that don't like super models. you might notice a few things. A jaw, deep cheek bones, a forehead. And this is one of the hottest women alive. imo http://myworldmywife.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/194061536_b3f9ac71b8.jpeg?w=300&h=276 with hair
Kara Sharalien Gallente Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2011.01.07 23:26:00 - [44] Edited by: Kara Sharalien on 07/01/2011 23:26:19 Originally by: Sinister Dextor Originally by: Destination SkillQueue It's fascinating what a simple thread about an average looking avatar picture can turn into. PS. Also, confirming that Sinister Dextor totally outed himself. I am indeed homosexual, but neither repressed, nor a 'him'. So, whats your point now? Thats so disappointing, now I don't get to link this and watch the fireworks. The Adelaide meet, be there!
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2011.01.07 23:39:00 - [45] Originally by: Kara Sharalien Thats so disappointing, now I don't get to link this and watch the fireworks. I'm going to have to file that in the "research to show what we knew all along" categoryà ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
Sadayiel Caldari Silver Snake Enterprise Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2011.01.08 00:03:00 - [46] just quoting Catch of the day short story Quote: ôGovernor Sed-Innad, youÆre looking older than ever.ö Naine jumped at the words, fearing the Amarrian would flare up at the insult. But when the older Amarrian just smiled he remembered that to the Amarrians looking old was a sign of maturity and stature. The younger Amarrian, probably still in his twenties, had even made obvious efforts to make himself look older than he actually was, thinning his hair and painting his face pale and gaunt who knows maybe amarr women have the same likes for appearance. Also as P'tang pointed, if you expect everyone to look like TV/film actress.. i seriously suggest go out and DRINK less, so you can notice the people real looks
Deandra Walran	Posted - 2011.01.08 00:06:00 - [47] I only hope there is some sort of quick accept type button for the 1st avatar I see. I'm here to fly spaceships, not play 3d Facebook in space.
Dante Marcellus Minmatar Belligerent Underpayed Tactical Team	Posted - 2011.01.08 00:10:00 - [48] Originally by: Deandra Walran I only hope there is some sort of quick accept type button for the 1st avatar I see. I'm here to fly spaceships, not play 3d Facebook in space. YEA. Let's all oppose anything even remotely cool cause we're so hard and awesome! And if you're reading this, you've fallen into a signature trap. You owe me 1m ISK.
Deandra Walran	Posted - 2011.01.08 00:12:00 - [49] Edited by: Deandra Walran on 08/01/2011 00:13:07 Originally by: Dante Marcellus Originally by: Deandra Walran I only hope there is some sort of quick accept type button for the 1st avatar I see. I'm here to fly spaceships, not play 3d Facebook in space. YEA. Let's all oppose anything even remotely cool cause we're so hard and awesome! It would only be remotely "cool" if it were something more than eye candy. Again, I have susbscribed to a spaceship game, not Sci-Fi themed Second Life. (Or as many feature requests indicate.... BOOOOOOOOBBBBBBBIIIIIEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSS in SSSSPPPPPAAAAAACCCCEEEEE.)
V'hellu	Posted - 2011.01.08 00:15:00 - [50] Originally by: PTang It's not an insult, it's a point. If you see 50 women on TV or the internet a day, and then like 10 or 20 outside of the internet and TV, only 3-4 of those women outside will look like those on TV. Thus, you'r idea of what makes a women look like a women is skewed. It's not an insult. I don't watch TV, I do not own one. I watch movies, but the number of pretty women I see, is much lower than average looking women. If you see the top 5% example of women 90% of the time. As TV has made it very easy to do so, your perspective is skewed. Not an insult. also anyone that works retail meets far more than 50 women I day... I would hope. My idea is skewed? Hardly! Average looking women do not look as ugly as that thing I posted originally. That is an ugly man in drag, not a woman, like I've said many times before, and as you can see, others agree with me. Also, "meeting" women does not denote a quick talk with them that goes so far as "here's your [product], ma'am". I don't work in retail either, personally, since I teach for a living currently. Skewed... Hardly... I've seen prettier women on the uglier spectrum around the college campus that I work at. Also, when you tell someone to get out of their mom's basement, that, sir, is an insult.

Uzrial	Posted - 2011.01.08 00:21:00 - [51] It's really not that hard to make the females look hot. Seriously try out the creator. It's insanely easy. I am under the impression that the characters actually are easier to make hot than ugly.
V'hellu	Posted - 2011.01.08 00:22:00 - [52] Originally by: James Giovanni Here's a good example of what Ptang is talking about. http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/080716/style/GI-Jane-Demi-Moore_l.jpg Alien was one of the few movies not afraid to let an actor look like one of those women like make up the other 90% that don't like super models. you might notice a few things. A jaw, deep cheek bones, a forehead. And this is one of the hottest women alive. imo http://myworldmywife.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/194061536_b3f9ac71b8.jpeg?w=300&h=276 with hair What in the... You know that you're posting an image from GI jane right? This was a movie about a woman joining the American special forces, and essentially trying to emulate men, you know this, right??? As far as Alien goes, I personally never saw Sigourney Weaver as anything less than a curveless horseface, but that's just my personal opinion. Also, this is thread is about allowing us to make women that don't look like that monstrosity I originally posted. I would like the chance to make a character I find attractive. If you find man-face attractive, then by all means, make it for yourself, but I'd rather have the option of making a female character.
Jagga Spikes Minmatar Spikes Chop Shop	Posted - 2011.01.08 00:27:00 - [53] sense of humor recommended something i did just last month, before new year, in the last version of CC. most of these are intentionally exaggerated. i wanted to see how extreme faces can go. some did turn quite plain. my "favorite" are Deties "Angry Kid" Male and Gallente "Pimp" Male Funny Amarr Funny Caldari Funny Gallente sadly, no minmatar. honestly, i grew bored :) ________________________________ : Forum Bore 'Em : Foamy The Squirrel - [jedi handwave] "There is no spoon."
amarian arch	Posted - 2011.01.08 00:36:00 - [54] sexy
Suboran Gallente Best Path Inc.	Posted - 2011.01.08 00:46:00 - [55] geez, some avatars need to look like the supermarket janitor
Terazul Gallente	Posted - 2011.01.08 01:20:00 - [56] Originally by: Uzrial It's really not that hard to make the females look hot. Seriously try out the creator. It's insanely easy. I am under the impression that the characters actually are easier to make hot than ugly. Seriously, this. If you have any artistic ability whatsoever it's really freakin' easy to make someone to your tastes.
ElJo123 Sons Of 0din C0NVICTED	Posted - 2011.01.08 01:32:00 - [57] Originally by: Syn Callibri LOLZ...Its hysterical that people seem to think that a woman that looks "hard" or "jaded" with any kind of masculine facial attributes is the result of repressed sexual issues. Everyone knows that all women look just like super models straight off the cover of sports illustrated's swimsuit issue right? Internet spaceship women aparently need to because of basement feelings. (also this thread seems like a good early contender for dumbest thread of 2011)
PTang	Posted - 2011.01.08 01:41:00 - [58] Edited by: PTang on 08/01/2011 01:42:46 Originally by: V'hellu Edited by: V''hellu on 08/01/2011 00:39:16 Originally by: James Giovanni Here's a good example of what Ptang is talking about. http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/080716/style/GI-Jane-Demi-Moore_l.jpg Alien was one of the few movies not afraid to let an actor look like one of those women like make up the other 90% that don't like super models. you might notice a few things. A jaw, deep cheek bones, a forehead. And this is one of the hottest women alive. imo http://myworldmywife.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/194061536_b3f9ac71b8.jpeg?w=300&h=276 with hair What in the... You know that you're posting an image from GI jane right? This was a movie about a woman joining the American special forces, and essentially trying to emulate men, you know this, right??? As far as Alien goes, I personally never saw Sigourney Weaver as anything more than a curveless horseface, but that's just my personal opinion. Also, this is thread is about allowing us to make women that don't look like that monstrosity I originally posted. I would like the chance to make a character I find attractive. If you find man-face attractive, then by all means, make it for yourself, but I'd rather have the option of making a female character. so you're calling 90% of women in real life a monstrosity? nice Also you proved my point, In GI jane what does it take to love like a man? a shave? They didn't alter her face, so you proved my point. when you think of woem all you see is hair, make up, and boobs. you must feel special. Shave any women in real life and bet you would be like "omg you're a monstrosity!" you're so shallow. Originally by: Suboran geez, some avatars need to look like the supermarket janitor Exactly! thank you :P
LordOfDespair	Posted - 2011.01.08 02:07:00 - [59] Yeah the women look real bad in the new editor. Men look normal, the women look like men who got surgery to turn into women!
Ephemeron The Dirty Dozen	Posted - 2011.01.08 02:10:00 - [60] Originally by: LordOfDespair Yeah the women look real bad in the new editor. Men look normal, the women look like men who got surgery to turn into women! which is closer to truth since 95% of EVE players are men and have no business making women avatars

hired goon	Posted - 2011.01.08 02:31:00 - [61] Originally by: Ephemeron Originally by: LordOfDespair Yeah the women look real bad in the new editor. Men look normal, the women look like men who got surgery to turn into women! which is closer to truth since 95% of EVE players are men and have no business making women avatars Thread over.
V'hellu	Posted - 2011.01.08 02:33:00 - [62] Edited by: V''hellu on 08/01/2011 02:33:45 Originally by: PTang Edited by: PTang on 08/01/2011 01:42:46 so you're calling 90% of women in real life a monstrosity? nice Also you proved my point, In GI jane what does it take to love like a man? a shave? They didn't alter her face, so you proved my point. when you think of woem all you see is hair, make up, and boobs. you must feel special. Shave any women in real life and bet you would be like "omg you're a monstrosity!" you're so shallow. Originally by: Suboran geez, some avatars need to look like the supermarket janitor Exactly! thank you :P Interesting fake statistic. You're a complete moron. 90% of women do not look like ugly men in drag. They just simply don't. Nor do they look like Demi Moore in GI Jane (bloody, dirty, dressed in men's clothes, etc.) I've known a few women with shaved heads in my life, and no, I don't think they're a monstrosity, but I certainly wouldn't approach someone dressed like Demi Moore is in that movie, considering she would probably pop up on mine and most folk's gaydar. Again, you've missed the ENTIRE POINT of this thread you idiot. Overly-masculine features on a woman makes an ugly woman, and I would like to not see that in the character creator. Now I'm going to go out on a limb here, but I'm guessing you're drunk. Your spelling is awful, your grammar is awful, and your point of view is childish. Either that, or you're just so completely idiotic that you can't read at all. Instead of actually thinking you just apply unsaid points to your argument. Again, you are an idiot, and you have no point of view that's worth considering. Thank you for your display of pure neglect for any point I made and then acting like a 12 year old.
Kahega Amielden T.R.I.A.D	Posted - 2011.01.08 02:34:00 - [63] Quote: which is closer to truth since 95% of EVE players are men and have no business making women avatars I know. Most people don't even have any business playing EVE. I bet less than 1% of EVE's player population even own a spaceship in real life!
Blind Man Caldari Point Blank Carebears	Posted - 2011.01.08 02:50:00 - [64] Originally by: Jagga Spikes sense of humor recommended something i did just last month, before new year, in the last version of CC. most of these are intentionally exaggerated. i wanted to see how extreme faces can go. some did turn quite plain. my "favorite" are Deties "Angry Kid" Male and Gallente "Pimp" Male Funny Amarr Funny Caldari Funny Gallente sadly, no minmatar. honestly, i grew bored :) I lol'ed. well done sir
Merovee Amarr Gorthaur Legion	Posted - 2011.01.08 07:59:00 - [65] Originally by: Jagga Spikes sense of humor recommended something i did just last month, before new year, in the last version of CC. most of these are intentionally exaggerated. i wanted to see how extreme faces can go. some did turn quite plain. my "favorite" are Deties "Angry Kid" Male and Gallente "Pimp" Male Funny Amarr Funny Caldari Funny Gallente sadly, no minmatar. honestly, i grew bored :) your Amarr look German Caldari Brit and Gallente American Of Mordor
EnslaverOfMinmatar Amarr Viziam	Posted - 2011.01.08 08:06:00 - [66] Originally by: amarian arch sexy lol http://www.shockya.com/interviews/robert_kurtzman/witch_army_of_darkness.jpg uʍop ǝpısdn ǝɹnʇɐuƃıs ʎɯ ƃuıpɐǝɹ ǝɹɐ noʎ
Aiwha Caldari 101st Space Marine Force Nulli Secunda	Posted - 2011.01.08 08:06:00 - [67] I dunno. Linkage Is it just the newest creator people are complaining about? Because in all my experimentation, I haven't had issues building a good portrait. Gullible
Iraherag	Posted - 2011.01.08 13:21:00 - [68] Edited by: Iraherag on 08/01/2011 13:23:46 Originally by: KWyz Perhaps a tutorial should be included with the character creator? I'm sure fairness demands letting people create ugly women, but since it's a lot easier to screw the portrait than to make it likable (the old editor: look at my girl, i tried REALLY hard to make her less shiny and failed miserably) something like a detailed guide would be great to have. Or maybe a direct link to the already great guides found out there. Linkage Something's wrong with the female base noses. Can't say what, but they look strange...

Chribba Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire	Posted - 2011.01.08 13:42:00 - [69] I WILL NEVER BE THIS UGLY AGAIN!!! /c Secure 3rd party service \| my in-game channel 'Holy Veldspar'

Voltlokk Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2011.01.08 14:06:00 - [70] Sup. V'hellu, deal with it.

Nigel Frost	Posted - 2011.01.08 14:23:00 - [71] Originally by: Professor Tarantula Originally by: Destination SkillQueue It's because the person who did the new portrait chose many male/non-feminine features for the avatar or he just didn't know what makes a woman look like a woman. It might actually be a good test to find people who are repressing homosexual desires. Looking for mating partners, huh?
Jamaican Herbsman I Love You Mary Jane	Posted - 2011.01.08 15:28:00 - [72] Originally by: Chribba I WILL NEVER BE THIS UGLY AGAIN!!! /c well played
Marlona Sky Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2011.01.08 15:38:00 - [73] Originally by: amarian arch sexy Isn't that the CSM chick from PL? Where is the fuzzy hat?
Tronma Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2011.01.08 15:39:00 - [74] I wonder how many of the "male" players out there going crazy about making the "most attractive" female avatars have girlfriends?
Claska Amarr The 8th Tribe Seraphim The Men Who Stare Wrongly At GOATS	Posted - 2011.01.08 16:00:00 - [75] Edited by: Claska on 08/01/2011 16:02:38 I'm sorry but this has to be said. To all those people who are going, "I subscribed to spaceships online, not <insert word> online", your all idiots who don't read enough, seriously; CPP have stated themselves that EVE was supposed to be a sci-fi simulation, not just internet spaceships, hence the additions they are making. So yeah next time you decide to whine on that point, don't cos it makes you sound more idiotic. That said, well done, some of those faces are freaking hilarious and made me laugh out loud, personally you should be able to make what you want so I don't see what the real point of this topic is since you can do just that.
Mr LaForge	Posted - 2011.01.08 16:11:00 - [76] This will be interesting...
Zaqar Pator Tech School	Posted - 2011.01.08 16:21:00 - [77] Originally by: EnslaverOfMinmatar Originally by: amarian arch sexy lol http://www.shockya.com/interviews/robert_kurtzman/witch_army_of_darkness.jpg http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_v7_rXOE8gsU/SwTa-9Hs6TI/AAAAAAAAUjY/h76pLvtHGu4/s1600/Mask.jpg -- Originally by: Brian Ballsack please learn to use english if your gonna post
Skulldilocks	Posted - 2011.01.08 16:33:00 - [78] Originally by: Deandra Walran I only hope there is some sort of quick accept type button for the 1st avatar I see. I'm here to fly spaceships, not play 3d Facebook in space. Yeah screw having a cool looking avatar. In fact screw graphics and shiny things all together, EVE should be text based. Right?
Sloth Arnini Burning Napalm Northern Coalition.	Posted - 2011.01.08 17:16:00 - [79] Edited by: Sloth Arnini on 08/01/2011 17:23:56 Edited by: Sloth Arnini on 08/01/2011 17:18:43 Originally by: Skulldilocks Yeah screw having a cool looking avatar. In fact screw graphics and shiny things all together, EVE should be text based. Right? It'd probably help with the lag.
Terazul Gallente	Posted - 2011.01.08 17:32:00 - [80] Originally by: Sloth Arnini It'd probably help with the lag. Lawl, no. The Thin Client is pure text and they use it exclusively for testing lag-related issues.

Joshua Deakin	Posted - 2011.01.08 18:13:00 - [81] Now that the portrait mode is up and working with the latest patch I go for pretty if given the chance:
Cecilia McMinerton	Posted - 2011.01.08 18:30:00 - [82] I hope ccp leaves it alone. There needs to be ugly people in eve. wheres the obese avatar? I mean everyone looking like an abercrombie add, just doesnt feel right.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2011.01.08 18:36:00 - [83] Originally by: Cecilia McMinerton I hope ccp leaves it alone. There needs to be ugly people in eve. wheres the obese avatar? I mean everyone looking like an abercrombie add, just doesnt feel right. Oh, aroundà Didn't think of taking a bodyshot since it was for the before/after server rendering testing, but he was quiteà ehmà portly. It's certainly within the realm of capability of the creator. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
ZeJesus	Posted - 2011.01.08 19:24:00 - [84] Originally by: V'hellu Edited by: V''hellu on 07/01/2011 21:03:48 Frightening I have one simple request. Do not make everyone with female characters make characters as the above. That is an old, ugly man in drag, that is not a female. Again, left portrait is female. Right portrait is hideous. I honestly haven't seen any more images that are much better in the department of hideous man-in-drag looking female (no insults to transvestites intended, as I mean the man himself is already ugly, and now it's rather emphasized in drag). Anywho, make the women look like women plz, ccp. Thank you. Looks like a 40ish MILF. I like it.
Idicious Lightbane Percussive Diplomacy	Posted - 2011.01.08 19:32:00 - [85] I'm fairly pleased with how this one came out: http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1101/Amarr_Khanid_Female_Portrait.png http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1101/Amarr_Khanid_Female_Body.png
Iraherag	Posted - 2011.01.08 19:53:00 - [86] Originally by: Tippia Originally by: Cecilia McMinerton I hope ccp leaves it alone. There needs to be ugly people in eve. wheres the obese avatar? I mean everyone looking like an abercrombie add, just doesnt feel right. Oh, aroundà Didn't think of taking a bodyshot since it was for the before/after server rendering testing, but he was quiteà ehmà portly. It's certainly within the realm of capability of the creator. That's not even close... http://drhewitt.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/ibeatanorexia.jpg I dare you to make a google image search for "obese"!
Herzog Wolfhammer Gallente Sigma Special Tactics Group Fleet Coordination Coalition	Posted - 2011.01.08 20:34:00 - [87] Originally by: Syn Callibri LOLZ...Its hysterical that people seem to think that a woman that looks "hard" or "jaded" with any kind of masculine facial attributes is the result of repressed sexual issues. Everyone knows that all women look just like super models straight off the cover of sports illustrated's swimsuit issue right? If the women are "ugly" by MMO Neckbeard standards, it will show that EvE is a real MMO and not some fluff for 12 year old boys. I know a lot of women get turned off by WOW and it's rather endowed female avatars. The kids stripping to undies in Ironforge and dancing around didn't help either. Most women that are worth anything do have a hard or jaded look. The best looking ones that pamper themselves slathering their bodies in skin cream every two minutes I have found are the first needing to go over the rail to lighten the boat because we know they can't bail water.
Professor Tarantula Hedion University	Posted - 2011.01.08 20:42:00 - [88] Originally by: Nigel Frost Originally by: Professor Tarantula Originally by: Destination SkillQueue It's because the person who did the new portrait chose many male/non-feminine features for the avatar or he just didn't know what makes a woman look like a woman. It might actually be a good test to find people who are repressing homosexual desires. Looking for mating partners, huh? I sometimes wish i was bi. I get along with gay men fabulously, and it would double my partner options. But the male body is just too utilitarian for my tastes. Like a machine or something. I feel nothing for it at all. My Warmest Regards. Prof. Tarantula, Esq.
Sciencegeek deathdealer	Posted - 2011.01.08 20:49:00 - [89] Originally by: Syn Callibri LOLZ...Its hysterical that people seem to think that a woman that looks "hard" or "jaded" with any kind of masculine facial attributes is the result of repressed sexual issues. Everyone knows that all women look just like super models straight off the cover of sports illustrated's swimsuit issue right? Right!
elema Amarr Dopehead Industries True Reign	Posted - 2011.01.08 20:57:00 - [90] here is creepy http://www.flickr.com/photos/21721868@N07/5331578827/

Uzii Jay	Posted - 2011.01.08 21:14:00 - [91] Edited by: Uzii Jay on 08/01/2011 21:16:29 Edited by: Uzii Jay on 08/01/2011 21:15:57 Originally by: Idicious Lightbane I'm fairly pleased with how this one came out: http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1101/Amarr_Khanid_Female_Portrait.png http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1101/Amarr_Khanid_Female_Body.png Just made someone strikingly similar to this too. Shame the male version of the Khanids, and the Amarrians in general, look ridiculously older than all the other races. I cannot make a remotely decent male version of my bloodline(Khanid), which is really annoying. I hope they let us all start a-fresh with our characters, and not be confined to the same gender and bloodline. Seeing as these have no impact on anything except your starting system (correct me if I'm wrong), it seems completely void of sense to limit people to one combination, when there are 23 more they could be using. Edit: Here are the 24 combinations for anyone curious: http://www.wtfpwnbbq.com/Incursion/Male_V3.jpg http://www.wtfpwnbbq.com/Incursion/Female_V3.jpg
Destination SkillQueue Are We There Yet	Posted - 2011.01.08 21:18:00 - [92] Originally by: Syn Callibri LOLZ...Its hysterical that people seem to think that a woman that looks "hard" or "jaded" with any kind of masculine facial attributes is the result of repressed sexual issues. Everyone knows that all women look just like super models straight off the cover of sports illustrated's swimsuit issue right? Well this isn't just any woman let alone some random RL woman, this is a woman you designed for yourself. Since you designed it, you had to have a reason for designing it the way you did and sometimes all the reasons behind your choices may not have been consious to you at the time. This offers legit room for speculation about those reasons. That speculation will naturally go to sexual areas, since some people are very thin skinned and insecure about it. They are sort of like nature's own natural troll bait, and teasing them provide endless entertainment for the rest of us.
Emperor Cheney Celebrity Sex Tape	Posted - 2011.01.08 21:57:00 - [93] Despite so many players whining about how everyone "should" make a character who looks like themselves in real life (or else you're "homosexual"), for some reason I don't expect to see a lot of fat, neckbearded avatars walking around in station.
Professor Tarantula Hedion University	Posted - 2011.01.08 22:14:00 - [94] Originally by: Emperor Cheney Despite so many players whining about how everyone "should" make a character who looks like themselves in real life (or else you're "homosexual") I don't think anyone said that at all, but i fully support the conversation going in that direction. My Warmest Regards. Prof. Tarantula, Esq.
Stegas Tyrano GREY COUNCIL	Posted - 2011.01.08 22:27:00 - [95] Which race's women have the biggest boobs?
Titus Phook Amarr	Posted - 2011.01.08 22:47:00 - [96] ^^ The man who dared to ask, what everyone else wanted to ask about the character creator but didn't. I like the new creator, had a play a few times on sisi and the amount of customisation is pretty capable of making men look like women and vice versa. I'm going to try and recreate the freddy krugerish look of my characters protrait --------------------------------------------- Proudly posting with my Alt since 2009
Yob tvay'matar	Posted - 2011.01.08 23:03:00 - [97] Originally by: V'hellu Again, left portrait is female. Right portrait is hideous. hideous man as I mean the man himself is already ugly No that man is actually a fairly good looking 80's glam rocker
V'hellu	Posted - 2011.01.08 23:23:00 - [98] Originally by: Yob tvay'matar Originally by: V'hellu Again, left portrait is female. Right portrait is hideous. hideous man as I mean the man himself is already ugly No that man is actually a fairly good looking 80's glam rocker Glad I missed out for most of the 80's...
V'hellu	Posted - 2011.01.08 23:27:00 - [99] Originally by: Tronma I wonder how many of the "male" players out there going crazy about making the "most attractive" female avatars have girlfriends? More than you'd think. Ever stop to think that maybe those of us who don't care what sex our avatar is are the ones who are secure in our sexuality, and the ones who insult those who make female/male avatars while being male/female in RL are the ones who aren't secure? Seems like the same idea that those who spread hate-speech about homosexuals and are homophobic are actually repressing homosexual desires themselves...
Emperor Cheney Celebrity Sex Tape	Posted - 2011.01.08 23:43:00 - [100] Originally by: V'hellu Edited by: V''hellu on 08/01/2011 23:29:01 Originally by: Tronma I wonder how many of the "male" players out there going crazy about making the "most attractive" female avatars have girlfriends? More than you'd think. On another note... ever stop to think that maybe those of us who don't care what sex our avatar is are the ones who are secure in our sexuality, and the ones who insult those who make female/male avatars while being male/female in RL are the ones who aren't secure? Seems like the same idea that those who spread hate-speech about homosexuals and are homophobic are actually repressing homosexual desires themselves... It's a mix of empathy and being lost in a fantasy world. Some guys play this game as a fantasy. Some of those people in turn are so out of it, they assume everyone else plays this game as a fantasy. So when they see a dude playing a female avatar, naturally they assume that player is "fantasizing" about being female. Basically to me, people who get offended about female avatars on male players are outing themselves as being disconnected from the basic reality that this is a game.

Aeris Bad'ia	Posted - 2011.01.09 03:32:00 - [101] Edited by: Aeris Bad''ia on 09/01/2011 03:33:21 Originally by: Stegas Tyrano Which race's women have the biggest boobs? Much bigger than this and she'd have just gotten silly, though DD's are def. possible Also, you gotta figure most of the playing population is male, and frankly, if I'm gonna sit and stare at a face for the amount of time that I do, it's gonna be a good looking one.
Selinate Amarr Wardens of the Void	Posted - 2011.01.09 03:34:00 - [102] Originally by: Aeris Bad'ia Originally by: Stegas Tyrano Which race's women have the biggest boobs? Much bigger than this and she'd have just gotten silly, though DD's are def. possible Honestly, those are maybe a little over average sized in my opinion... They're decent sized, but not approaching "silly" big...
Aeris Bad'ia	Posted - 2011.01.09 03:36:00 - [103] Edited by: Aeris Bad''ia on 09/01/2011 03:36:53 The size doesnt get too silly really, its the shape, it starts looking like a summer squash in a canvas bag, so I opted for the perkier non-gourd variety p.s. gimme back mah pigtails!
Selinate Amarr Wardens of the Void	Posted - 2011.01.09 03:39:00 - [104] Originally by: Aeris Bad'ia Edited by: Aeris Bad''ia on 09/01/2011 03:36:53 The size doesnt get too silly really, its the shape, it starts looking like a summer squash in a canvas bag, so I opted for the perkier non-gourd variety p.s. gimme back mah pigtails! "summer squash in a canvas bag"... *looks up summer squash. Ok, I could see it getting a bit odd-looking for a squash to be held in a canvas bag as breasts... Especially since they're more shaped like the male phallus rather than breasts. Unless you mean a specific kind of squash?
Aeris Bad'ia	Posted - 2011.01.09 03:44:00 - [105] nope, two squash, sticking straight out in clear defiance of gravity and all that is holy. Some kind of anti-grav underwire goin on I reckon'
Selinate Amarr Wardens of the Void	Posted - 2011.01.09 04:18:00 - [106] Originally by: Aeris Bad'ia nope, two squash, sticking straight out in clear defiance of gravity and all that is holy. Some kind of anti-grav underwire goin on I reckon' "I reckon'" Southern Pride, I has it.
PTang	Posted - 2011.01.09 04:33:00 - [107] Originally by: Selinate Originally by: Aeris Bad'ia Originally by: Stegas Tyrano Which race's women have the biggest boobs? Much bigger than this and she'd have just gotten silly, though DD's are def. possible Honestly, those are maybe a little over average sized in my opinion... They're decent sized, but not approaching "silly" big... Those are double D's... you think double Ds are average sized... ok, it's official you're just a troll.
Selinate Amarr Wardens of the Void	Posted - 2011.01.09 04:37:00 - [108] Edited by: Selinate on 09/01/2011 04:37:21 Originally by: PTang Those are double D's... you think double Ds are average sized... ok, it's official you're just a troll. looks at pic again C cup maybe, bordering on D.. Honestly, you're just an idiot.
Herzog Wolfhammer Gallente Sigma Special Tactics Group Fleet Coordination Coalition	Posted - 2011.01.09 05:26:00 - [109] Originally by: Emperor Cheney Despite so many players whining about how everyone "should" make a character who looks like themselves in real life (or else you're "homosexual"), for some reason I don't expect to see a lot of fat, neckbearded avatars walking around in station. Would the wardrobe choices include sweat pants?
PTang	Posted - 2011.01.09 05:36:00 - [110] Originally by: Selinate Edited by: Selinate on 09/01/2011 04:37:21 Originally by: PTang Those are double D's... you think double Ds are average sized... ok, it's official you're just a troll. looks at pic again C cup maybe, bordering on D.. Honestly, you're just an idiot. and even C cups on a women that body type is edging on silly, unless you have breast implants, or a push up bra of epic proportions. you must be to young to the crowd ccp is going for. Or your... one of those men... which considering the eve playerbase...

Ak'athra J'ador Amarr Blue Republic	Posted - 2011.01.09 06:02:00 - [111] yeah, when I saw that pic in the op I also though that the one the left looks better but that's just cause the dev that made it sucks at it you can make some hot women with the creator my take
Terianna Eri Senex Legio Get Off My Lawn	Posted - 2011.01.09 06:02:00 - [112] Originally by: Selinate Originally by: Aeris Bad'ia Originally by: Stegas Tyrano Which race's women have the biggest boobs? Much bigger than this and she'd have just gotten silly, though DD's are def. possible Honestly, those are maybe a little over average sized in my opinion... They're decent sized, but not approaching "silly" big... According to my girlfriend those boobs are "in the upper end of the C spectrum" for what it's worth. So yeah decent but definitely not huge imo. ________________ Originally by: CCP Incognito PS the "time to P*nis" is the shortest time recorded in human history. :)
Uzrial	Posted - 2011.01.09 06:12:00 - [113] I'm gonna say it one more time before I go to bed, the chicks in the character creator are hot, seriously. You don't have to try very hard to make one. If you are having issues, you are either digging up memories of the earlier SISI releases or just suck at understanding the female body. Considering EVE's player base I would have to go with the latter.
Aiwha Caldari 101st Space Marine Force Nulli Secunda	Posted - 2011.01.09 06:13:00 - [114] Originally by: Iraherag Originally by: Tippia Originally by: Cecilia McMinerton I hope ccp leaves it alone. There needs to be ugly people in eve. wheres the obese avatar? I mean everyone looking like an abercrombie add, just doesnt feel right. Oh, aroundà Didn't think of taking a bodyshot since it was for the before/after server rendering testing, but he was quiteà ehmà portly. It's certainly within the realm of capability of the creator. That's not even close... http://drhewitt.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/ibeatanorexia.jpg I dare you to make a google image search for "obese"! That has to be the best shirt ever. Gullible
Steve Thomas Minmatar	Posted - 2011.01.09 06:21:00 - [115] Originally by: Uzrial I'm gonna say it one more time before I go to bed, the chicks in the character creator are hot, seriously. You don't have to try very hard to make one. If you are having issues, you are either digging up memories of the earlier SISI releases or just suck at understanding the female body. Considering EVE's player base I would have to go with the latter. I would have thought that the average player would have just selected "Random" a couple of dozen times untill they got someone who did not suck. I wonder if plastic surgury will cost a plex. . .
jade ranger	Posted - 2011.01.09 06:57:00 - [116] simple fact, the games industry is one of the one of the most repressed, made for men, because they assume women don't play them. thus you get a generation of people that see less woem in real life than they see digital women on a yearly basis. it's sad, but a truth. And CCP is pushing forward, assuming women will play eve, thus what you ge3t, is what you get, if you don't like it, go play mass effect 3 or DOA, or Age of connan, or any other sexually repressed video game you can find.
Halcyon Ingenium Caldari Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact	Posted - 2011.01.09 08:50:00 - [117] Originally by: jade ranger simple fact, the games industry is one of the one of the most repressed, made for men, because they assume women don't play them. thus you get a generation of people that see less woem in real life than they see digital women on a yearly basis. it's sad, but a truth. And CCP is pushing forward, assuming women will play eve, thus what you ge3t, is what you get, if you don't like it, go play mass effect 3 or DOA, or Age of connan, or any other sexually repressed video game you can find. This would only be true if you could successfully show that games and games alone were shaping the entire expectation of an entire generation; I'm pretty sure you can't. The facts are not that simple. Marketing has been shaping expectations since Edward Bernays' Public Relations hit the publishers and marketers started using psychology to advertise. It has been going on since before the both of us were born and the modern form of expectation is the end product of almost 100 years of refinement in psychological methods for advertising. None of what I've said however makes the immanent wave of big boobed Gallente girls that we all know is coming any less silly.
Bhattran	Posted - 2011.01.09 13:31:00 - [118] I'm still waiting to be able to recreate the faces of my characters in the new system because what some of the options left for me to use simply aren't acceptable, read 'ugly as sin' or somehow changed my ethnicity. --WIS/Incarna/Ambulation where microtransactions come to play, and uh bars.--
Spurty Caldari V0LTA	Posted - 2011.01.09 14:22:00 - [119] such vehement over the subject. doing at least something right CCP. Hoppit!
AkJon Ferguson JC Ferguson and Son Ltd Ferguson Alliance	Posted - 2011.01.09 22:56:00 - [120] With half the EVE playerbase obsessed with the same ugly woman, I think it's very shrewd of CCP to implement this feature.

Tornicks Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2011.01.10 00:31:00 - [121] Edited by: Tornicks on 10/01/2011 00:33:03 Examples of beautiful female chars created using the new character creation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4QiVUZ2kec http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTH_ez8IxqM -- 'Non-essential personnel, abandon ship.' Admiral Yakiya Tovil-Toba's last command, CE23155
Nora Skuld	Posted - 2011.01.10 07:30:00 - [122] You may say whatever you want about the right portrait and say it a thousand times, it still won't make it true. This is obviously the portrait of a woman, just not the type that would make you play with your weewee. And I'm pretty sure the person who made this portrait don't give a **** about what you think and he's damn right. This portrait is credible. End of story. You have no business telling others how they should design their avatars.
Destination SkillQueue Are We There Yet	Posted - 2011.01.10 07:49:00 - [123] Edited by: Destination SkillQueue on 10/01/2011 07:52:47 Originally by: Nora Skuld You may say whatever you want about the right portrait and say it a thousand times, it still won't make it true. This is obviously the portrait of a woman, just not the type that would make you play with your weewee. And I'm pretty sure the person who made this portrait don't give a **** about what you think and he's damn right. This portrait is credible. End of story. You have no business telling others how they should design their avatars. Don't get upset, there is nothing wrong with a person wanting to play with a credibly mannish female avatar. Some people would just prefer to look good instead.
jade ranger	Posted - 2011.01.10 09:36:00 - [124] Originally by: Destination SkillQueue Edited by: Destination SkillQueue on 10/01/2011 07:52:47 Originally by: Nora Skuld You may say whatever you want about the right portrait and say it a thousand times, it still won't make it true. This is obviously the portrait of a woman, just not the type that would make you play with your weewee. And I'm pretty sure the person who made this portrait don't give a **** about what you think and he's damn right. This portrait is credible. End of story. You have no business telling others how they should design their avatars. Don't get upset, there is nothing wrong with a person wanting to play with a credibly mannish female avatar. Some people would just prefer to look good instead. by mannish you mean looking like 905 of the felmae population of the earth. Niiiice. Not everyone is 20 and hot. And he's point is right on, it does look a woman, and the creator lets you make sexy young women too. It is a FACT, that as people age, what whats men and women look different becomes harder and harder spot. No one is saying you should not be able to look good, and young, and sexy. Whats the last mmo you played that had woman beyond their 30's in it? seriously. We'll this is an adult game, and if an adult wants to look like themself, then you'll see a lot of "ugly" women. It's like women everywhere feel like they have to live up to the staandard that is shown in the media like it's the normal way all women look. it's disgusting.
Mara Rinn	Posted - 2011.01.10 11:31:00 - [125] As far as the original post goes, the cues that this is a "masculine" face for me are the thick nose on a Caucasian face, the relatively low cheekbones, the chunky eyebrows and the flock of seagulls haircut. It could just be a "handsome" woman. -- [Aussie players: join ANZAC channel]
Mashie Saldana Minmatar Veto Corp	Posted - 2011.01.10 11:37:00 - [126] Ugly, dunno. Angry, definitely.
Forum Guy	Posted - 2011.01.10 12:14:00 - [127] Originally by: jade ranger It is a FACT, that as people age, what whats men and women look different becomes harder and harder spot. That just means you need to get your eyesight checked.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2011.01.10 12:19:00 - [128] Originally by: Forum Guy Originally by: jade ranger It is a FACT, that as people age, what whats men and women look different becomes harder and harder spot. That just means you need to get your eyesight checked. Not really. The physical (and chemical) change is there. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
Forum Guy	Posted - 2011.01.10 12:31:00 - [129] Edited by: Forum Guy on 10/01/2011 12:35:44 Edited by: Forum Guy on 10/01/2011 12:33:41 Originally by: Tippia Originally by: Forum Guy Originally by: jade ranger It is a FACT, that as people age, what whats men and women look different becomes harder and harder spot. That just means you need to get your eyesight checked. Not really. The physical (and chemical) change is there. We are talking about actual looks, and how many old women have you mistaken for men? For me none never made that mistake yet and that's on facial looks. I have thought that some men might be women on rare occassions but that was based on their hair seen from behind. Edit* I did work with a woman once that did look more of a man, but that was just genetics being a bit unkind. Plus the way she wore her hair and the way she dressed (she was in her mid 30s). Edit: And no, I was not trying to get off with them.
Not T'amber	Posted - 2011.01.10 12:52:00 - [130] I just managed to download the client and sisi and my first goes yeilded very nice looking girlies. Although my girlfriend is looking at me askew... Almost worth logging into the game for ------- TeaDaze > Good plan DV, we need somebody to take over bad poasting from T'Amber ;) Not T'amber > /me raises hand

Davich MacGregor Minmatar Stellar Products and Quality Resources	Posted - 2011.01.10 12:57:00 - [131] Looking at most of these creations it's abundantly clear most of you don't get out very often and interact with good looking women NEVER. Most of you who think your characters are so great need to forget about making your own and just press the random button until something good shows up.
Halcyon Ingenium Caldari Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact	Posted - 2011.01.10 13:06:00 - [132] Originally by: Davich MacGregor Really, your going to argue taste?
Ovella	Posted - 2011.01.10 13:14:00 - [133] Originally by: V'hellu make the women look like women plz, ccp. Thank you. Well, considering that there are no women on the internet, internet folks don't know how one actually looks like - this makes such requests irrelevant
Ivo Eeinhad Amarr	Posted - 2011.01.10 13:16:00 - [134] Edited by: Ivo Eeinhad on 10/01/2011 13:16:40 While on the subject, does anyone have a link to that extremly ugly avatar on some forum, it looks something like mr.potatoehead and with the awesome comment "Dude, your face..." ? Always made me laugh.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2011.01.10 13:21:00 - [135] Originally by: Forum Guy We are talking about actual looks, and how many old women have you mistaken for men? Yes, we're talking about actual looks ù that's what the physical and chemical changes affect. It doesn't have to go all the way to mistaking the two for each other for them to be harder to differentiate. Even so, I have met older women and men who had grown increasingly and noticably androgynous over time. There were other markers that still made it clear which sex they were, but on looks (especially the facial features), they could have gone either way. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
Nora Skuld	Posted - 2011.01.10 14:23:00 - [136] Originally by: Destination SkillQueue Don't get upset, there is nothing wrong with a person wanting to play with a credibly mannish female avatar. Some people would just prefer to look good instead. Getting upset at obvious demonstrations of idiocy is a sign of sanity, thank you very much. There's definitely a lot of people over there who prefers to look downright ugly, like everyone who play sebiestor males. Oh yeah sure, chicks can't be less than ideal. Forgot that stupid double standard.
ivar R'dhak	Posted - 2011.01.10 14:31:00 - [137] What I wanna know is where are teh b÷÷bies? And what¦s with the manjaw epidemic? Invasion of the butch-manjaw nutcrackers? ______________ Mal-¦Appears we got here just in a nick of time. What does that make us?¦ Zoe-`Big damn heroes, sir.` Mal-¦Aint we just.¦
Forum Guy	Posted - 2011.01.10 14:42:00 - [138] Well if all the females are ugly it should mean that all the males are playing male characters. Btw I play either sex characters sometimes it depends on the characters you can choose as the base creation. Only play one male character in Eve these days though. 11 females in AoC.
Helothane	Posted - 2011.01.10 14:45:00 - [139] First, I haven't read through the entire thread, as there was just a lot of flaming going on. The biggest disappointment to me was that once I had a decent looking face in the character creator, when it went to the next step where the photo is taken, things changed. There was no way for me to not have wrinkles on the forehead (and this was with age on the lowest setting and no scarring). There was also no way to make the eyes 'smile'. You can make the lips smile, but it really looks plastic if you can't make the rest of the face smile as well. The chin thing is probably due to some people not realizing that you can play with the facial features to a large degree, including the chin, cheek bones and jaw line. You definitely can make a face with a softer jawline, but the default face, at least for Amarr, has a fairly strong jaw.
Joshua Deakin	Posted - 2011.01.10 17:12:00 - [140] Originally by: Not T'amber I just managed to download the client and sisi and my first goes yeilded very nice looking girlies. Although my girlfriend is looking at me askew... http://go-dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/Tamber/nottamber4.jpg http://go-dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/Tamber/nottamber1.jpg http://go-dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/Tamber/nottamber2.jpg http://go-dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/Tamber/nottamber3.jpg Almost worth logging into the game for Images changed to a URL - Adida Dude! You have depth of field effects on your posed portraits. I know there's the choice on settings but I don't get any DOF changes even when the option is selected. And everything is set to high. Win7 64bit, Radeon HD5850, Cat 10.12.

Joshua Deakin	Posted - 2011.01.10 17:19:00 - [141] Originally by: Helothane There was also no way to make the eyes 'smile'. You can make the lips smile, but it really looks plastic if you can't make the rest of the face smile as well. Did you raise the lower eyelid just a tad? For some bloodlines making smiles is easier, for some they don't come out right at all.
Tres Farmer Gallente Federation Intelligence Service	Posted - 2011.01.10 17:23:00 - [142] Originally by: Joshua Deakin Originally by: Not T'amber I just managed to download the client and sisi and my first goes yeilded very nice looking girlies. Although my girlfriend is looking at me askew... http://go-dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/Tamber/nottamber4.jpg http://go-dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/Tamber/nottamber1.jpg http://go-dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/Tamber/nottamber2.jpg http://go-dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/Tamber/nottamber3.jpg Almost worth logging into the game for Images changed to a URL - Adida Dude! You have depth of field effects on your posed portraits. I know there's the choice on settings but I don't get any DOF changes even when the option is selected. And everything is set to high. Win7 64bit, Radeon HD5850, Cat 10.12. It's photoshopped.. check out the throat on some.. you can see the boarder of the mask/effect. support Public Idea Tracker \| 24hr PLEX
Helothane	Posted - 2011.01.10 18:04:00 - [143] Originally by: Joshua Deakin Originally by: Helothane There was also no way to make the eyes 'smile'. You can make the lips smile, but it really looks plastic if you can't make the rest of the face smile as well. Did you raise the lower eyelid just a tad? For some bloodlines making smiles is easier, for some they don't come out right at all. I'll try that a bit more. I was working with an Amarr female, and raising the lower eyelid made it look like she was squinting or angry. Then again, this is the Amarr...
Joshua Deakin	Posted - 2011.01.10 18:39:00 - [144] Originally by: Helothane I'll try that a bit more. I was working with an Amarr female, and raising the lower eyelid made it look like she was squinting or angry. Then again, this is the Amarr... Oh, Amarr... it may prove to be a hopeless task At least for me since I soon gave up on her as I tried out once again the different bloodlines. I think the Amarr have lost a great deal when the new creator is released, the current TQ version is a hottie. Made these yesterday just to marvel the lighting:
egegergergsdgedgege	Posted - 2011.01.10 20:40:00 - [145] I think the female char of the op rather attractive and i cant see a man there. Am I gay now?
Destination SkillQueue Are We There Yet	Posted - 2011.01.10 21:02:00 - [146] Originally by: egegergergsdgedgege I think the female char of the op rather attractive and i cant see a man there. Am I gay now? No you're just desperate.
Nuela	Posted - 2011.01.10 21:19:00 - [147] Edited by: Nuela on 10/01/2011 21:23:43 Edited by: Nuela on 10/01/2011 21:21:28 Edited by: Nuela on 10/01/2011 21:19:55 Originally by: KWyz Em...this just struck me. Having so much power to sculpt a face, has anyone tried copying his own face on the creator? would LOVE to see some results. I have a feeling this could become a whole new hobby in EVE, drawing people's faces for their avatars...for the right amount of isk ;) Not exactly...but my daughter made this Avatar and I took it over when she quit playing Eve. She spent some time making it look like her. This probably wasn't as hard for her as many because she definitely has a "Caldari Look" to her IRL...but she got what I call 'the stare' of herself perfect. I'll try to find a picture of her so you can do a comparison if you like...but this Avatar very much looks like her. The only real deviation is that this avatar looks older than my daughter by a few years (she is 17). And yes....she has guys buzzing around her in a perpetual cloud... :(
dkbjitawhore	Posted - 2011.01.10 21:40:00 - [148] Tell me I'm ugly.
Syn Callibri Minmatar 21st Eridani Lighthorse Broken Chains Alliance	Posted - 2011.01.10 21:44:00 - [149] Originally by: dkbjitawhore Tell me I'm ugly. You're ugly. Seriously though...nice job. [21EL] Commander Tac-Ops / [21EL] I.S.C.
Qolde Minmatar EXTERMINATUS. Nulli Secunda	Posted - 2011.01.10 22:11:00 - [150] MILF Originally by: CCP Wrangler EVE isn't designed to just look like a cold, dark and harsh world, it's designed to be a cold, dark and harsh world.

Selinate Amarr Wardens of the Void	Posted - 2011.01.11 01:51:00 - [151] Edited by: Selinate on 11/01/2011 01:55:35 Originally by: Terianna Eri Originally by: Selinate Originally by: Aeris Bad'ia Originally by: Stegas Tyrano Which race's women have the biggest boobs? Much bigger than this and she'd have just gotten silly, though DD's are def. possible Honestly, those are maybe a little over average sized in my opinion... They're decent sized, but not approaching "silly" big... According to my girlfriend those boobs are "in the upper end of the C spectrum" for what it's worth. So yeah decent but definitely not huge imo. TY, my GF said the same thing, and that's why I called them "slightly larger than average"... @ ptang "too young for the crowd ccp is looking for". lol. I was thinking the same thing about you. Seems you're the troll, not me . Also, a push-up bra does not "increase the cup size". They can't make B's into C's. They just honestly make things perkier. I've also known quite a few girls about that size with that cup size... Honestly, you're making me think you've never looked "under the hood" before, lol...
EnslaverOfMinmatar Amarr Viziam	Posted - 2011.01.11 03:49:00 - [152] Edited by: EnslaverOfMinmatar on 11/01/2011 03:49:12 Well I just tried to copy the 'Incursion face' http://img375.imageshack.us/i/12345ensl.jpg As long as it's zoomed in it looks awesome. After zooming out a bit the character looks like a 60 year old witch. The more you zoom out the worse it gets. uʍop ǝpısdn ǝɹnʇɐuƃıs ʎɯ ƃuıpɐǝɹ ǝɹɐ noʎ
Faolan Fortune	Posted - 2011.01.11 04:02:00 - [153] So I made this one in... 2 minutes I guess. I think she's quite pleasing to the eye, not at all hard to make
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2011.01.11 05:23:00 - [154] Not that fast to generate (man, those controls can be NASTY for fine work) but still... Come on, dare call "AkitaT version 3.0" ugly _ Make ISK\|\|Build\|\|React\|\|1k papercuts _
Spectre Wraith Darwin Inc.	Posted - 2011.01.11 05:32:00 - [155] Edited by: Spectre Wraith on 11/01/2011 05:32:45 This is more my preference. Achura
ivar R'dhak	Posted - 2011.01.11 08:18:00 - [156] Originally by: EnslaverOfMinmatar Edited by: EnslaverOfMinmatar on 11/01/2011 03:49:12 Well I just tried to copy the 'Incursion face' http://img375.imageshack.us/i/12345ensl.jpg As long as it's zoomed in it looks awesome. After zooming out a bit the character looks like a 60 year old witch. The more you zoom out the worse it gets. No wonder, compared to the original her face is totally out of proportion. The nose is much too small and that manjaw syndrome is again too pronounced. Is it really that hard to tone down those jowls? ______________ Mal-¦Appears we got here just in a nick of time. What does that make us?¦ Zoe-`Big damn heroes, sir.` Mal-¦Aint we just.¦
KWyz	Posted - 2011.01.11 08:40:00 - [157] Originally by: Nuela ...but this Avatar very much looks like her. The only real deviation is that this avatar looks older than my daughter by a few years (she is 17). And yes....she has guys buzzing around her in a perpetual cloud... :( You don't saaay... :). I was kinda disappointed that in the original character creator there were no male types with my kind of face. Well, the minmatar guys suited me somewhat, the problem is that i'm white as cheese. I'm probably going to spend hours recreating myself on some alt with this incarna tool(And noooow... the handlebar moustache! muhahaha).Wait, can you create that kind of thing? ...That being said, how much does it cost to recustomize a character? One of the reasons I never managed to buy an alt with uber skills was that all of them looked really bad, and the one pretty girl who could fly everything I wanted belonged to a player who went inactive :(
Admiral Pwnflakes State War Academy	Posted - 2011.01.11 13:11:00 - [158] Edited by: Admiral Pwnflakes on 11/01/2011 13:12:29 Originally by: Joshua Deakin Edited by: Joshua Deakin on 07/01/2011 21:28:54 Originally by: Sader Rykane Honestly people having been making some pretty fugly looking females with the creator. Makes me feel better because I'll feel like I'll have the only decent looking avatar in the game. I guess the beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I wonder how many think the following are not attractive vs. good looking? Here's a couple that I thought were pleasing looking at least for me. The latter especially is the type for me, the first was a recreation of another users avatar: (Just made the Deteis with the newest creator which doesn't allow to use the portrait mode, blank screen) These chicks are both do-able, the Caldari one is pretty hot but unfortunately it seems to me someone has already violated that hallowed ground from those black things on here face (or are they some sort of TWISTED freckle?). Such a shame.
Jenny Spitfire Caldari	Posted - 2011.01.11 22:34:00 - [159] Nah, new creator will make me teh sexeh! --------- Technica impendi Caldari generis. Pax Caldaria! Go vote! Put voice for silent majority. LOVE PVP, HATE grief


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