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Daan Sai
Polytrope
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Posted - 2011.01.18 03:31:00 -
[61]
 Originally by: Mothermoon
WHERE IS THE PLEASURE HUB CCP!
Sadly, rumoured to have been sacrificed to get the ESRB teen rating and placate puritanical US box set distributors. Very sad. The default Gallente station environ is just dreary and cold - and very very boring.
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Vertisce Soritenshi
SHADOW WARD
OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2011.01.18 04:12:00 -
[62]
Originally by: James Giovanni
Not to mention, the recently revealed CPU issue,
Hold on...trying to find out what this CPU "issue" is...
OH! You mean the game improvements made that made decade old CPU's even more obsolete and no longer useable? Right...NOT an issue. Time to get a PC that wasn't designed to play PONG.
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Joe Skellington
Minmatar
JOKAS Industries
Apocalypse Now.
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Posted - 2011.01.18 04:18:00 -
[63]
I want my Sebiester hair lock in the new char creator damnit.
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Dodgy Past
Amarr
Digital Fury Corporation
Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2011.01.18 10:37:00 -
[64]
Edited by: Dodgy Past on 18/01/2011 10:38:20
Edited by: Dodgy Past on 18/01/2011 10:37:25
Originally by: Olleybear
I to was surprised at the lack of options with the Character Creator on the test server. I was left wanting to do more to my character to make him unique. Then I realized how this can fit into CCPs goal of microtransactions and/or added player created content later. I believe a little bit of patience is a benefit here.
For example, some people may like to design their own clothing in game to sell to other people. Your not going to be all that interested in getting new clothing if you already have your character looking exactly how you want them to look after the initial creation are you? If having players design clothing simply isn't doable code wise, clothing then falls into the possibility of microtransactions. CCP could setup microtransactions for a new coat their art department created for instance.
Tatoos, obviously, is another avenue for either player created content or microtransaction content.
By initially limiting what comes out on this iteration of the character creator, it leaves open any number of possibilities for future content. It also creates a desire in the player to want their character to be unique in game. From a business perspective, this can be a very good thing for revenue of microtransactions are the goal.
Personally, if microtransactions become a reality, I want a pink rupture with a fuzzy carebear on both sides that can be destroyed when I lose it in pvp. 
CCP are feeling confident enough about the last ****storm being forgotten that they're ready to remove features and then sell them back to us for more money?
This is going to be a great way to make sure that all those were ambivalent regarding Incarna rapidly become anti.
I'm also predicting that most people will be without a face for a long time while bugs are worked out.
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Terminal Insanity
Minmatar
Gith Industries
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Posted - 2011.01.18 10:48:00 -
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i might be wrong but, sisi isnt the final build, they could have many other backgrounds ready for release (they are just tiny textures that can be swapped out easily.)
As for the face masks and tattoos, yeah i cant imagine them not being in the sisi build for testing, hopfully they release them sometime soon. There does seem to be a trend with the new graphics, where certain things get axed... Look at the cyno effects (terrible now), and the engine trails! Theres many things in the game that have been removed for virtually no reason, other then lazyness... lets hope that someone in CCP takes up the cause and brings some of this back!
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Sam Mustian
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Posted - 2011.01.18 10:52:00 -
[66]
Can I still shoot internet space ships?
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Cyaxares II
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Posted - 2011.01.18 10:57:00 -
[67]
Edited by: Cyaxares II on 18/01/2011 11:07:02
Originally by: Moolti
Originally by: Teranul
For the record, there is zero evidence to suggest that you would have to remake your character entirely from scratch when they do add the ability to edit your avatar down the line for new features (which I do not believe the conspiracy theorists on when they say it will be for real money... you chumps). That data is obviously stored somewhere, and it will obviously be called back up in its exact form when you go into the editor.
To assume they can't do something as stupidly basic as saving your damn character model when they HAVE to recall that data somehow is... um... stupid.
Seriously. What? 
For the record there is Zero evidence CCP has a way to preserve a character without having to recreate form scratch. In fact this functionality has been asked for many times since the new creator hit the test server.
How do you think the server-side renderer receives the information how your character is supposed to look like?
hint: your client does not upload a screenshot of your character to the server that is then brushed up with magic Photoshop skills.
How hard would it be for the portrait server to save a backup of the raw data underlying your character portrait?
imagine there turns out to be a bug with the rendering technology and a number of portraits have to be recreated (tbh I almost expect this to happen), imagine CCP wants to increase the resolution of character portraits at some later point, ... would it make sense to ask your users to recreate their characters from scratch in these cases?
it would be downright stupid for CCP not to keep a backup of the raw data your created using the character creator.
It's just not easy to build a good UI other than the preview of your character for transcribing/importing/modifying that data as there are too many datapoints that can be changed (can't capture the look of the character by writing down the values of 5 sliders).
edit: actually I seem to recall that our portraits were re-rendered for EVE Gate so at least in the old system CCP did store your character portrait's raw data.
edit2: Linkage so why exactly do you think CCP would change away from what it has been doing all the time?
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CCP Spitfire
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Posted - 2011.01.18 11:06:00 -
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Current characters will have a grace period before having to commit to a new character avatar and portrait. During this grace period you can take your time on updating your new avatar and portrait to suit your tastes. Once this grace period is over all characters will be forced to create a new and updated character portrait and avatar during the login process. A final date for the end of this grace period will be announced later. Stay tuned to the MOTD and news for more information.
Spitfire
Community Representative
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Terminal Insanity
Minmatar
Gith Industries
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Posted - 2011.01.18 11:06:00 -
[69]
Edited by: Terminal Insanity on 18/01/2011 11:07:12
before today's patch, your character's facial features were stored seperate from the actual rendered image. How do i know? Because i've seen many faces rendered incorrently on occasion, suggesting that when your cache is cleared, your face needs to be re-rendered by your local client.
I present to you, my character's face, on crack:
And this is what he looks like when he's sober: Is much less racist-looking
I've also seen people on my watchlist be rendered with just the eyes on occasion, fixing over time after the cache is flushed.
also, theoretically, these new avatars are the beginning of incarna/walking-in-stations, im sure they are saving the settings so that your character can be used for when that time comes. Perhaps they will even allow for you to visit a tattoo parlor and get those tattoos you've been missing =P
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Ivor Bucket
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Posted - 2011.01.18 11:08:00 -
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Was worried they'd remove the amarr hoods so checked on si-si this morning, they're still there thankfully. 
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Vaneshi SnowCrash
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Posted - 2011.01.18 13:10:00 -
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To be honest the only annoyance I've got with the new character generator is a lack of dresses & skirts for female characters. Which is annoying as one of their tech demo video's is a cloth simulation of a dress.
Still I expect they'll be added in at some point, either for MT's or as a freebie for Incarna.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.01.18 13:15:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Spitfire
Current characters will have a grace period before having to commit to a new character avatar and portrait. During this grace period you can take your time on updating your new avatar and portrait to suit your tastes.
Not having been able to check Sisi for about a month, since there haven't been any patches, how and where will we find the button/menu/dead-chicken-waving-pattern that leads us back to the character designer?
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ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö
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Pohbis
Neo T.E.C.H.
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Posted - 2011.01.18 13:20:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: CCP Spitfire
Current characters will have a grace period before having to commit to a new character avatar and portrait. During this grace period you can take your time on updating your new avatar and portrait to suit your tastes.
Not having been able to check Sisi for about a month, since there haven't been any patches, how and where will we find the button/menu/dead-chicken-waving-pattern that leads us back to the character designer?
There is none.
However, you're asked when you try to login a character if you want to create a new one, decline this, and you will be able to log into EVE, and you'll be asked again the next time. Rinse repeat until they hopefully add enough content to make it not feel like a beta test for WoD.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.01.18 13:29:00 -
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Originally by: Pohbis
There is none.
However, you're asked when you try to login a character if you want to create a new one, decline this, and you will be able to log into EVE, and you'll be asked again the next time. Rinse repeat until they hopefully add enough content to make it not feel like a beta test for WoD.
àbut that's not what he's saying. The claim here seems to be that we'll be able to create a character and then go back and tweak it for a time ù otherwise, we're not exactly taking our time on updating our character. We're only delaying the recreation, we're screwed if we make a single mistake, and it has done in one sittingà
I know what you're describing ù that's how it worked during the time when we actually got patches for the latest sisi builds ù but calling that a mechanism that lets you take your time to update your character to suit your taste is a gross misdirection of what we'll be able to (and will have to) do.
ùùù
ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö
ù Karath Piki |
Gibbo5771
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Posted - 2011.01.18 13:32:00 -
[75]
Tattoos...clothes....seriously get a grip.
Its a spaceship game, this content is just icing on the cake to make it more appealing to a larger database of players, make an avatar you like and get the fuk over it.
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Skippermonkey
Suddenly Ninjas
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2011.01.18 13:33:00 -
[76]
Edited by: Skippermonkey on 18/01/2011 13:34:34
Originally by: PTang
The current creator has had a bunch of hair styles removed from the older builds. It has a lack of face implants, scars, tattoos, and clothing. Where is my minmatar gas mask? my gallente face plate?
I hope this quenches your anger
Originally by: CCP Zulu Devblog
Virtual goods sales in EVE Online will evolve through sales of vanity items, first in Incarna but later in-space features. The scope will be (and thereæs no design has been done around this, weære just talking strategy now) that anything that doesnæt affect gameplay directly can be, potentially, sold for PLEX or other means. Ideas that have come up include Incarna clothing and furniture, logos on spaceships and swapping out portraits. This is by no means a comprehensive list, nor is it a commitment that said items will be available for sale, I mention these as an example for what type of items weære thinking about.
I hope you are ready to start paying dollar for your pretty little dresses and the tassles for your tricycle
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Stitcher
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.01.18 13:37:00 -
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There sure is a lot of whine in this thread.
have something to go with it: http://foodiestop.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/cheese-and-wine.jpg
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Verin "Stitcher" Hakatain.
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Anne Arqui
Minmatar
Diamonds in the Rough Enterprises
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Posted - 2011.01.18 13:38:00 -
[78]
CCP can we have a bloodline change for PLEX?
Please?
Please??
Please???
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.01.18 13:50:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Skippermonkey
I hope you are ready to start paying dollar for your pretty little dresses and the tassles for your tricycle
Screw the tassels. Just name the price of that tricycle ù I'ma gonna get me one of those instantly! 
ùùù
ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö
ù Karath Piki |
Lederstrumpf
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Posted - 2011.01.18 13:55:00 -
[80]
Originally by: PTang
JUST MAKE IT OPTIONAL
US MUST EAT CHEEZBURGER. WITHOUT CHEEZE.
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CCP Spitfire
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Posted - 2011.01.18 13:59:00 -
[81]
Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Pohbis
There is none.
However, you're asked when you try to login a character if you want to create a new one, decline this, and you will be able to log into EVE, and you'll be asked again the next time. Rinse repeat until they hopefully add enough content to make it not feel like a beta test for WoD.
àbut that's not what he's saying. The claim here seems to be that we'll be able to create a character and then go back and tweak it for a time ù otherwise, we're not exactly taking our time on updating our character. We're only delaying the recreation, we're screwed if we make a single mistake, and it has done in one sittingà
I know what you're describing ù that's how it worked during the time when we actually got patches for the latest sisi builds ù but calling that a mechanism that lets you take your time to update your character to suit your taste is a gross misdirection of what we'll be able to (and will have to) do.
Hello Tippia,
Just wanted to let you know that I perfectly understand your concerns and have asked for some additional information on the subject. Will post an update here as soon as I have it.
Spitfire
Community Representative
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.01.18 14:08:00 -
[82]
Originally by: CCP Spitfire
Hello Tippia,
Just wanted to let you know that I perfectly understand your concerns and have asked for some additional information on the subject. Will post an update here as soon as I have it.
Thank you.
Now, I understand that, in time, we'll be able to go back and make changes ù otherwise, you wouldn't be able to sell us any MT-purchased hats and True Sansha Chaps, now would youà 
àbut the question is when that will happen ù if it's not now, that grace period is rather wasted because it's still a one-shot deal for the time being, and we have to pay (later, and literally) for our mistakes.
ùùù
ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö
ù Karath Piki |
ivar R'dhak
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Posted - 2011.01.18 14:10:00 -
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That would be nice Spitfire.
From what I gleaned from SiSi posts, we all have ONE shot at this and then we¦ll again have to live with it.
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Lillith Starfire
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Posted - 2011.01.18 14:12:00 -
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Edited by: Lillith Starfire on 18/01/2011 14:12:46
Grace period could be interpreted in two ways
1) You will have X number of days using your old picture before you must change it with the character creator (one shot change)
2) You have X number of days during which time you can keep adjusting your character (multiple changes until deadline)
3) It's HOW BIG?!
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Captain Pompous
Is Right Even When He's Wrong So Deal With It
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Posted - 2011.01.18 14:12:00 -
[85]
Do the new Gallente models have sneeze-guards, as modelled very fetchingly by yours truly?
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Bestor Triol
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Posted - 2011.01.18 14:26:00 -
[86]
Originally by: Captain Pompous
Do the new Gallente models have sneeze-guards, as modelled very fetchingly by yours truly?
No.. Hats and other vanity items are set to be between 200 and 400 uPLEX each.
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Rosalina Sarinna
Royal Guardsmen
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Posted - 2011.01.18 14:31:00 -
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From what has been said up until this point, I assumed that after creatign our char, we would be able to re-enter creation when there were new updates (like hats, glasses, clothes) etc. If this is not correct I'd certainly like to know about it, then I can choose not to recreate my Avatar yet, and wait for some updates.
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Yao Shiu
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Posted - 2011.01.18 14:33:00 -
[88]
Originally by: Bestor Triol
Originally by: Captain Pompous
Do the new Gallente models have sneeze-guards, as modelled very fetchingly by yours truly?
No.. Hats and other vanity items are set to be between 200 and 400 uPLEX each.
I can has blog post or dev quote about micro transactions?
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Jennifer Starling
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.01.18 14:37:00 -
[89]
Originally by: CCP Spitfire
Hello Tippia,
Just wanted to let you know that I perfectly understand your concerns and have asked for some additional information on the subject. Will post an update here as soon as I have it.
It's not that this (and a lot of other issues) hasn't been mentioned multiple times in the feedback thread already .. do you guys even read them?
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Captain Pompous
Is Right Even When He's Wrong So Deal With It
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Posted - 2011.01.18 14:38:00 -
[90]
Originally by: Bestor Triol
Originally by: Captain Pompous
Do the new Gallente models have sneeze-guards, as modelled very fetchingly by yours truly?
No.. Hats and other vanity items are set to be between 200 and 400 uPLEX each.
How the hell much is a uPLEX worth? A millionth of a PLEX?
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