Pages: [1] 2 3 4 :: one page |
|
Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 2 post(s) |
PTang
|
Posted - 2011.01.17 18:28:00 -
[1]
Edited by: PTang on 17/01/2011 18:44:40 IT'S PLEASURE HUBS ALL OVER AGAIN!!!!!! You know ccp, I know you won't put in adjustable height, and I know you won't make any drastic changes to sculpting(like the forehead), but as it is, CCP is releasing an unfinished product.
The old character creator just has more stuff.
The current creator has had a bunch of hair styles removed from the older builds. It has a lack of face implants, scars, tattoos, and clothing. Where is my minmatar gas mask? my gallente face plate?
CCP should do the smart thing and put this the game the same way they are putting in the new unfinished UI. As an optional toy to play with. I mean don't get me wrong, everything looks fantastic in the new creation system! It's just alack of.. well... excellence.
excellence excellence excellence In 2 days if we make a character, that's it until walking in stations. I mean what are they going to do keep releasing updates for a few months after release? will we have to resculpt our character every 3 weeks? That's stupid, don't release an unfinished product CCP!
this is just like PI all over again. Great interface, cool graphics, neat ideas, excellence and variety out the window for the sake of a release date?
JUST MAKE IT OPTIONAL UNTIL IT"S FINISHED!
More stuff ranting below ----------------------------------------- Come on, I don't want to make my character with the knowledge in mind that you're going to "make it better" later. Then I'll have to make my character over. Why would I make my character more than once?
It's just art assets!
Hell, host an art contest on polycount, that'll get you some art assets fast and for free.
we'll I know CCP won't just listen to me, but hopefully the community can agree, CCP pushing somethign out the door that feels so.... empty of stuff, is lame.
I don't think people would mind if they have a wait 3-4 more weeks just to slap some art assests together. (I'm a 3d artist I know what I'm talking about. I don't understand why the new UI, and the new forums get to be delayed, but not this!
I mean hell! what about some of the faceplates? you could just use the same models from the old character creator! They are untextured see through plastic! hell just give me 4 weeks I'll get you half way there ccp. : (
I'm just getting really disappointed at the lack of communication on this one. There has been no stance fro cp for over a month on what the final state of the creator would be. :(
-mothermoon
but seriously there was never an official statement on pleasure hubs being removed randomly, we are going to lose a huge chuck of what makes eve, eve with this half-assed attempt at a great character creator! it's such a wasted potential! the characters look so good! but now they shop at the gap!
|
|
Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
|
Posted - 2011.01.17 18:32:00 -
[2]
OH MY FACE!
Secure 3rd party service | my in-game channel 'Holy Veldspar' |
|
Dante Marcellus
Minmatar Belligerent Underpayed Tactical Team
|
Posted - 2011.01.17 18:32:00 -
[3]
raaaaaaaaage quit And if you're reading this, you've fallen into a signature trap. You owe me 1m ISK. |
Chaos Incarnate
Faceless Logistics
|
Posted - 2011.01.17 18:33:00 -
[4]
Originally by: Chribba OH MY FACE!
Did someone say face? _____________________ Look down. Back up. Where are you? You're on a forum, with the alt your alt could post like. |
|
Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
|
Posted - 2011.01.17 18:34:00 -
[5]
Originally by: Chaos Incarnate
Originally by: Chribba OH MY FACE!
Did someone say face?
OH YOURS AND MY FACE!
Secure 3rd party service | my in-game channel 'Holy Veldspar' |
|
Xercodo
Amarr INESTO Task Force
|
Posted - 2011.01.17 18:34:00 -
[6]
posting in a "where the **** are the frilly streamers on my metaphorical tricycle?!!?" whine thread
-------------------------------------------------- The drake is a lie
|
James Giovanni
|
Posted - 2011.01.17 18:35:00 -
[7]
Not to mention, the recently revealed CPU issue, it just make sense to delay the whole thing 3-4 weeks.
I don't excellence is pulling the plug on your userbase 2 days before something goes live, this is not enough time for a new 20$ cpu to even get shipped to you in the mail fast enough.
What the **** ccp, why are you pushing this date for hard, slow the hell down. excellence is not pushing as hard as you can, over and over again really fast, just so you can finish as soon as possible.
you have to be gentle and loving with your playerbase. :P
|
Joshua Deakin
|
Posted - 2011.01.17 18:37:00 -
[8]
Edited by: Joshua Deakin on 17/01/2011 18:38:48
And it doesn't stop there.
One very nice feature of the old creator was how it handled lights and backgrounds. They all seemed to flow together seamlessly. Now it's more like you select the lighting that doesn't totally destroy the avatar portrait and then try and find a background the suits the lighting... that's right, the old lighting created a much more balanced picture. Now you have to throw out eight out of ten backgrounds since they don't really fit the lighting on the characters face.
On top of that, the art assets on accessories are approximately three of each. Three different pants (each color choice does not count as one), three outer jackets and so on...
And while initially the sculpting seems to give a lot of freedom you quickly notice there are many parts where you wish you had control but can't tweak...
It's not ready yet. |
Xercodo
Amarr INESTO Task Force
|
Posted - 2011.01.17 18:37:00 -
[9]
Originally by: James Giovanni
What the **** ccp, why are you pushing this date for hard, slow the hell down. excellence is not pushing as hard as you can, over and over again really fast, just so you can finish as soon as possible.
you have to be gentle and loving....
that's what she said?
-------------------------------------------------- The drake is a lie
|
Niccolado Starwalker
Gallente Shadow Templars
|
Posted - 2011.01.17 18:38:00 -
[10]
Edited by: Niccolado Starwalker on 17/01/2011 18:38:17 Edited by: Niccolado Starwalker on 17/01/2011 18:37:53
Originally by: Chaos Incarnate
Originally by: Chribba OH MY FACE!
Did someone say face?
Some people are better of without one.
Oh....
Originally by: Dianabolic Your tears are absolutely divine, like a fine fine wine, rolling down your cheeks until they flow down the river of LOL. |
|
PTang
|
Posted - 2011.01.17 18:39:00 -
[11]
Edited by: PTang on 17/01/2011 18:41:45
Originally by: Chribba OH MY FACE!
good example.
If ccp pushed back the date our faces became final, kinda like a test run on TQ, and they put in a system that let you copy paste a code, that would basically let another player sculpt your character, wouldn't that be great?
WAIT A MINUTE! if we aren't getting the new forums, or the new UI, Or anything else we can do with our new avatar pic, then why are we getting the finalized creator at all! I used to think the release date had to do with the new forums, having new image servers and such, and a new look. but now that's delayed too!
can we least get a ccp reply on if we can redo our faces for free for the next 6 months?
Originally by: Xercodo posting in a "where the **** are the frilly streamers on my metaphorical tricycle?!!?" whine thread
another good example! I have been a minmatar rper for a long time, how would I survive in a world where my slaver enemies don't have those cool visor hoods!
|
Xercodo
Amarr INESTO Task Force
|
Posted - 2011.01.17 18:45:00 -
[12]
Originally by: PTang
Originally by: Xercodo posting in a "where the **** are the frilly streamers on my metaphorical tricycle?!!?" whine thread
another good example! I have been a minmatar rper for a long time, how would I survive in a world where my slaver enemies don't have those cool visor hoods!
on the contrary, i find this damned thing restricts visibility quite a bit...and it makes affectionate physical contact awkward
/me takes it off and punts it across the room
-------------------------------------------------- The drake is a lie
|
jade ranger
|
Posted - 2011.01.17 18:46:00 -
[13]
Originally by: Joshua Deakin Edited by: Joshua Deakin on 17/01/2011 18:38:48
And it doesn't stop there.
One very nice feature of the old creator was how it handled lights and backgrounds. They all seemed to flow together seamlessly. Now it's more like you select the lighting that doesn't totally destroy the avatar portrait and then try and find a background the suits the lighting... that's right, the old lighting created a much more balanced picture. Now you have to throw out eight out of ten backgrounds since they don't really fit the lighting on the characters face.
On top of that, the art assets on accessories are approximately three of each. Three different pants (each color choice does not count as one), three outer jackets and so on...
And while initially the sculpting seems to give a lot of freedom you quickly notice there are many parts where you wish you had control but can't tweak...
It's not ready yet.
I agree with all your points but the pants, we'll never see below the belts, they can delay the art down there as we'll never even see it.
|
Zhim'Fufu
|
Posted - 2011.01.17 18:50:00 -
[14]
I too am much disappoint with the new character creators lack of sculpting and decoration options and the general low resolution of the clothes themselves. Lets just hope they left out the majority of stuff to save on download sizes for the sisi test builds and will 'suprise' us with all the wanted shiney cloths and other stuff that was promised.
But then again this is ccp and their track record on such matters is well known.
|
Cyaxares II
|
Posted - 2011.01.17 18:50:00 -
[15]
Originally by: PTang Where is my minmatar gas mask? my gallente face plate?
soon(TM) in the RMT store.
implementing these features now would only hurt sales later - after all CCP has to give you a reason for wanting to change your appearance and you being not quite content with what you can achieve with the stock items is a good step in that direction.
|
Chaos Incarnate
Faceless Logistics
|
Posted - 2011.01.17 18:50:00 -
[16]
Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker
Some people are better of without one.
Oh....
TOO SOON
Originally by: Chribba
Originally by: Chaos Incarnate
Originally by: Chribba OH MY FACE!
Did someone say face?
OH YOURS AND MY FACE!
we will persevere like manly spacemen (in space) with our new faces
~a poem by chaos incarnate~ _____________________ Look down. Back up. Where are you? You're on a forum, with the alt your alt could post like. |
Shintai
Gallente Arx Io Orbital Factories Arx Io
|
Posted - 2011.01.17 18:56:00 -
[17]
<ragequit> due to <emo reasons> and more <emorage> I now quit with my <RNG+10> accounts! --------------------------------------
Abstraction and Transcendence: Nature, Shintai, and Geometry |
Joshua Deakin
|
Posted - 2011.01.17 18:59:00 -
[18]
Originally by: jade ranger I agree with all your points but the pants, we'll never see below the belts, they can delay the art down there as we'll never even see it.
Quite true. Shoes/pants whatnot are not essential in creating the portrait at this stage. Perhaps there are few options since it's meant for the players later on to create them by themselves? Or that as the creator is released in parts we'll have the free choice of doing ourselves new once again.
Even when Incarna has been on the drawing table for several years and only kicked in high drive over the last few months CCP is being quite tight lipped about it. Perhaps because so little is ready and they don't want to promise too much what they might not be able to deliver. |
PTang
|
Posted - 2011.01.17 19:00:00 -
[19]
Edited by: PTang on 17/01/2011 19:01:48 Edited by: PTang on 17/01/2011 19:00:00
Originally by: Cyaxares II
Originally by: PTang Where is my minmatar gas mask? my gallente face plate?
soon(TM) in the RMT store.
implementing these features now would only hurt sales later - after all CCP has to give you a reason for wanting to change your appearance and you being not quite content with what you can achieve with the stock items is a good step in that direction.
ok but see this make no sense fundamentally.
you have to make your character in one go, there has been no proof that it could be possible to go back in and edit ONLY your clothing or hair.
it cost 15$ to redo your avatar. do I have to pay 15$ to redo my face and them an extra 5$ for the costume pieces I want?
It will be impossible to get the exact same face on a 2nd, 3rd try. It's part of the charm of the new creator. Sow hy would ccp force us to redo the face just to get a tattoo on our face in some future release?
|
Thaylon Sen
The Boondock Saints
|
Posted - 2011.01.17 19:09:00 -
[20]
Have to agree with the OP, not enough options :(
|
|
Hesperius
|
Posted - 2011.01.17 19:10:00 -
[21]
Is this rant based on the content you have seen on the test server or do you work at CCP and know what is being delivered?
|
PTang
|
Posted - 2011.01.17 19:13:00 -
[22]
Originally by: Hesperius Is this rant based on the content you have seen on the test server or do you work at CCP and know what is being delivered?
they have never hidden content before. so I could be wrong, but there hasn't been a dev blog to say other wise.
|
Joshua Deakin
|
Posted - 2011.01.17 19:16:00 -
[23]
Originally by: Hesperius Is this rant based on the content you have seen on the test server or do you work at CCP and know what is being delivered?
One could hope that Sisi is just a small glimpse of what's to come tomorrow. But if you look the art CCP has itself created for example on the homescreen flash you see the exact same options / clothes / hair on characters we can currently create. It does not seem there's is more finished content to come in the first release. CCP dev has said that there will more eyewear with later patches. Currently there are only differently tinted aviator glasses. |
K'uata Sayus
|
Posted - 2011.01.17 19:28:00 -
[24]
I'm going to sit on my faces until things cool down and the character creator is stabilized.
EVERYONE SEEMS NORMAL UNTIL YOU GET TO KNOW THEM. |
Pohbis
Neo T.E.C.H.
|
Posted - 2011.01.17 19:29:00 -
[25]
I miss all the "fluff" backgrounds.
Where are my InterBus, pirate faction, CONCORD etc. backgrounds?
And how can I be the CEO of a ruthless Caldari coorporation without my current background?
|
Selinate
Amarr Red Water Syndicate
|
Posted - 2011.01.17 19:33:00 -
[26]
More time is reasonable. I agree.
Oh wait, I believe they've already been working on Incarna and such for maybe 1 or 2 years now..?
Meh. They can throw it out, w/e, but if there aren't more customizations by the time Incarna comes out... well, there's a testament to CCP's development skills...
|
Caldari Citizen2323256
|
Posted - 2011.01.17 19:40:00 -
[27]
It's new features you dinosaurs. Stop being such dinosaurs!
|
Pyrosomniac
Gallente
|
Posted - 2011.01.17 19:50:00 -
[28]
They're just saving the cooler clothes and tattoos for when we can walk around and browse clothes shops at will... IN SPACE!!!
Tattoos? Go to a tattoo parlor... IN SPACE!!!
I see a new isk-sink incoming...
|
PTang
|
Posted - 2011.01.17 19:51:00 -
[29]
Originally by: Pohbis I miss all the "fluff" backgrounds.
Where are my InterBus, pirate faction, CONCORD etc. backgrounds?
And how can I be the CEO of a ruthless Caldari coorporation without my current background?
just like pleasure hubs, it has to do with eve lore, ccp doesn't want it because it's old I guess? Or they don't think it's important to have things thatv relate to the game in the character creator?
I will miss my bunny : (
-mothermmon
|
Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
|
Posted - 2011.01.17 19:54:00 -
[30]
Originally by: K'uata Sayus I'm going to sit on my faces until things cool down and the character creator is stabilized.
As kinky as it sounds, this.
Not going to say, I told you so...... ahhh who am I kidding.
Originally by: Allestin Villimar Also, if your bookmarks are too far out, they can and will ban you for it.
Originally by: Torothanax Low population in w systems makes afk cloaking unattractive. |
|
|
|
|
Pages: [1] 2 3 4 :: one page |
First page | Previous page | Next page | Last page |