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Melkath Bandrom Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2011.01.23 21:16:00 - [1] What is going on in Yulai? Yulai-Kemerk gate was packed. Local is a mishmash of chatter. Is there an incursion going on already?
Talkietoaster Gallente	Posted - 2011.01.23 21:18:00 - [2] Read me
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2011.01.23 21:19:00 - [3] 1450 and climbing atmà ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
Hu Evur	Posted - 2011.01.23 21:26:00 - [4] Yep, from the other thread it appears Vuk is bringing the blob against the Sansha. NC doing the same in pve that they do in pvp. I hope you're prepared to battle the blob you ebil npc sansha
evil0	Posted - 2011.01.23 21:27:00 - [5] Originally by: Hu Evur Yep, from the other thread it appears Vuk is bringing the blob against the Sansha. NC doing the same in pve that they do in pvp. I hope you're prepared to battle the blob you ebil npc sansha i dont think theres going to be an incursion today. I think someone be troll'n.
Clown Pron	Posted - 2011.01.23 21:29:00 - [6] Originally by: evil0 Originally by: Hu Evur Yep, from the other thread it appears Vuk is bringing the blob against the Sansha. NC doing the same in pve that they do in pvp. I hope you're prepared to battle the blob you ebil npc sansha i dont think theres going to be an incursion today. I think someone be troll'n. Learn to read
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2011.01.23 21:31:00 - [7] Edited by: Tippia on 23/01/2011 21:31:25 Originally by: evil0 i dont think theres going to be an incursion today. I think someone be troll'n. The Revenants in Yulai certainly seem to think so, but yes, catching Sansha Kuvakei would be a nice feather in any troll's hatà ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
Melkath Bandrom Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2011.01.23 21:36:00 - [8] LOL Watching Chat. Kuvakie is just chattin away in local. Incursion is happening. Confirmed...lol 1600 at last count. Trying to undock from Concorde station. Been lagged for 14 minutes undocking and I'm not even near the combat sites....lol. Glad I'm not fighting!
Sekket Caldari White-Noise	Posted - 2011.01.23 21:39:00 - [9] Edited by: Sekket on 23/01/2011 21:44:56 Trying to jump in, been lagging a solid 5minutes waiting for the session to change I've got a sneaking suspicion that they forgot to reinforce the node for this one...
Ava Starfire Minmatar Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2011.01.23 21:39:00 - [10] Ive been undocking for 15 minutes. Awesome, really.
Iraherag	Posted - 2011.01.23 21:40:00 - [11] Another great demonstration that EVE can handle fleet fights with hundreds of pilots involved ... as long as no one needs anything to actully happen.
DED Capsuleer DED Drug Enforcement Department	Posted - 2011.01.23 21:42:00 - [12] Your spies suck. It's 1700 in local
Squasar Void Angels Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2011.01.23 21:44:00 - [13] Welcome to 0.0 owait....
Yukikio	Posted - 2011.01.23 21:44:00 - [14] I cant cycle my weapons ;[
Laerise Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2011.01.23 21:44:00 - [15] Good job CCP.
SkintRay	Posted - 2011.01.23 21:45:00 - [16] I'm intrigued, anybody got a livestream running?
Naphariel	Posted - 2011.01.23 21:46:00 - [17] yea, i can't cycle weapons either, plus all of my chat windows are gone so i have no clue what is happening well, at least i managed to shoot it once before the lag started
Ava Starfire Minmatar Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2011.01.23 21:46:00 - [18] Originally by: Laerise Good job CCP. The apocalypse has come...because i agree with someone from PIE. CCP, ty for the suck.
Iraherag	Posted - 2011.01.23 21:48:00 - [19] I got a question: After my client crashed and I restarted and rejoined I'm missing all chat channels, including local. Will I get banned now? Oh wait, The Monkeysphere is still here as well. NMV...
Goose99	Posted - 2011.01.23 21:48:00 - [20] You'd think CCP would reinforce Yulai, knowing ahead of time...
Naphariel	Posted - 2011.01.23 21:49:00 - [21] i was sure this event was going to be rigged in some way so we have no chance to stop the coming incursions, but doing it by lag alone... congratz ccp
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2011.01.23 21:49:00 - [22] It was slightly crowded at planet II, but fortunately, the lag had already started to keep people from showing up by thenà ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
Serge Bastana Gallente GWA Corp	Posted - 2011.01.23 21:50:00 - [23] I only went to watch the attack, it was massive lag so decided to leave. I found a load of ships sat on the Tourier gate and wondered what was going on, then I found out when I attempted to jump out to leave others to the lag, we were all stuck trying to jump out. I eventually just logged. ------------------------------------------------ Quafe is people!

CCP StevieSG	Posted - 2011.01.23 21:51:00 - [24] Looks like CCP Yokai's Supernode is working!

Hra Neuvosto The 8th Order	Posted - 2011.01.23 21:51:00 - [25] Finally managed to log back in. Had to relog because I couldn't see anything in my overview. Only took about an hour. Now can't see any chat windows or my drone window. And I can't actually do anything (align, warp etc. won't work).
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2011.01.23 21:52:00 - [26] Edited by: Tippia on 23/01/2011 21:53:31 Originally by: CCP StevieSG Looks like CCP Yokai's Supernode is working! àexcept that after a relog, my chat windows won't show up. Oh, and my modules won't cycle, of course, but that's to be expected ù I've got the right ones turned on anyway. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
Iraherag	Posted - 2011.01.23 21:52:00 - [27] Edited by: Iraherag on 23/01/2011 21:53:11 Originally by: CCP StevieSG Looks like CCP Yokai's Supernode is working! I always say that when I'm just sitting there at work, doing nothing. People never buy that tho...
Jagga Spikes Minmatar Spikes Chop Shop	Posted - 2011.01.23 21:52:00 - [28] sucks if you're there. sucks if you're not. ________________________________ : Forum Bore 'Em : Foamy The Squirrel - [jedi handwave] "There is no spoon."
Ava Starfire Minmatar Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2011.01.23 21:53:00 - [29] Originally by: CCP StevieSG Looks like CCP Yokai's Supernode is working! CCP...Am i dead?
Serge Bastana Gallente GWA Corp	Posted - 2011.01.23 21:53:00 - [30] Originally by: CCP StevieSG Looks like CCP Yokai's Supernode is working! Would that be the old 'working as intended'? Well, if that's what was intended, I won't be bothering with any more incursions. ------------------------------------------------ Quafe is people!
Skawl Red Federation	Posted - 2011.01.23 21:54:00 - [31] Originally by: CCP StevieSG Looks like CCP Yokai's Supernode is working! If by working you mean hasn't exploded yet, yes. If you mean it's playable, no, no it's not.
Goose99	Posted - 2011.01.23 21:54:00 - [32] Originally by: Ava Starfire Originally by: CCP StevieSG Looks like CCP Yokai's Supernode is working! CCP...Am i dead? That is the question, for a lot of us...
Ben Alman Gallente	Posted - 2011.01.23 21:55:00 - [33] Originally by: Skawl Originally by: CCP StevieSG Looks like CCP Yokai's Supernode is working! If by working you mean hasn't exploded yet, yes. If you mean it's playable, no, no it's not. Well warping is working flying is working chat is working grid is working. Only Guns are not cycling
Akciali	Posted - 2011.01.23 21:55:00 - [34] In warp since 10 minutes. Yep i think CCP fail. Pic at 1700~1800 in local. Unplayable. Bouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh!
Goose99	Posted - 2011.01.23 21:56:00 - [35] Those supercarriers are probably racking in the kills of stuck players... muhahahahah

CCP Yokai	Posted - 2011.01.23 21:57:00 - [36] Looks like you guys can still push the limits of even our biggest servers! Pushing the hamsters as hard as they will go.

Iraherag	Posted - 2011.01.23 21:57:00 - [37] I'd also like to commend you on your great new traffic advisory approach: Accept the jump-in request, don't execute it and start a timer. After the timer is elapsed inform the user that the original jump-in request is expired. Don't accept further requests
Borza Slavak Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2011.01.23 21:58:00 - [38] Upgrade to ferrets?
Wurzel Gummidge	Posted - 2011.01.23 21:58:00 - [39] I have a feeling, after this, incursions won't be quite so popular. I can't read and I can't write, but that doesn't really matter, Cos I come from Trowbridge and I can drive a tractor
Hirana Yoshida Behavioral Affront	Posted - 2011.01.23 21:58:00 - [40] I was naive enough to want to leave when it hit 1500 .. that was 25 minutes ago, haven't loaded space yet.
Ava Starfire Minmatar Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2011.01.23 22:01:00 - [41] 20 mins to log in after blackscreen and crash from trying to undock. This is pretty epic. The "Soul CrushinG lag" popup is nice.
Terrestria Solara	Posted - 2011.01.23 22:01:00 - [42] Edited by: Terrestria Solara on 23/01/2011 22:01:32 Sanshas acccidentally the whole station? I've been lagged out, did I miss all the fun?
Laerise Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2011.01.23 22:02:00 - [43] Originally by: CCP StevieSG Looks like CCP Yokai's Supernode is working! Making a joke out of failure, thats the way to go chaps, well done CCP.
Serge Bastana Gallente GWA Corp	Posted - 2011.01.23 22:02:00 - [44] What fun? ------------------------------------------------ Quafe is people!
Borza Slavak Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2011.01.23 22:03:00 - [45] Originally by: Wurzel Gummidge I have a feeling, after this, incursions won't be quite so popular. This is expected to be the last Live Event Incursion, the automated ones from Tuesday work completely differently mechanics-wise. So, eh, probably not much effect.
Melkath Bandrom Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2011.01.23 22:03:00 - [46] lol "Soul Crushing Lag" "Your client has waited 5 minutes for a remote call to complete. This could mean that the server is very loaded. Please be patient, chances are that the call will complete eventually but depending on the load it might be considerable time. Click here to see the remote call debug viewer" 1st time I ever got this. I always thought when you guys talked of soul crushing lag, it was just colorful commentary. Little did I realise...
Caiman Graystock Caldari Massively Mob	Posted - 2011.01.23 22:03:00 - [47] Originally by: CCP Yokai Looks like you guys can still push the limits of even our biggest servers! Pushing the hamsters as hard as they will go. As much as everyone is whinging, I'm impressed the node stayed alive throughout, even if I managed one cycle of missiles in 60 minutes... lol
Aunian Sunglass	Posted - 2011.01.23 22:03:00 - [48] Originally by: CCP Yokai Looks like you guys can still push the limits of even our biggest servers! Pushing the hamsters as hard as they will go. I live to serve your hamsters ^^
Estel Arador	Posted - 2011.01.23 22:05:00 - [49] Disconnected, can't get back in
Atlas777 Amarr Dominus Machinarum Twilight Federation	Posted - 2011.01.23 22:05:00 - [50] I Spent 15 minutes trying to jump into the system, then dc'd and now have spent 15 minutes trying to log in the game period lol. I be stuck yo!

CCP Yokai	Posted - 2011.01.23 22:07:00 - [51] Originally by: Borza Slavak Upgrade to ferrets? We need the big ones please

Fulbert Gallente	Posted - 2011.01.23 22:07:00 - [52] The ultimate system-wide sansha device : the LAG generator. Acts like a mobile disruptor for gates, modules, and anything... -------------------------------- Fulbert. Miner - Industrialist
Serge Bastana Gallente GWA Corp	Posted - 2011.01.23 22:07:00 - [53] Originally by: Atlas777 I Spent 15 minutes trying to jump into the system, then dc'd and now have spent 15 minutes trying to log in the game period lol. I be stuck yo! Yulai is like one of those godawful office parties that you really want to leave but something keeps you stuck there. Seeing all the ships stuck on the gate reminded me of everyone trying to leave Glastonbury ------------------------------------------------ Quafe is people!
Horizonist Yulai Guard 2nd Fleet Yulai Federation	Posted - 2011.01.23 22:08:00 - [54] Incursion has moved to a system called PROMISED LAND it seems
Iraherag	Posted - 2011.01.23 22:08:00 - [55] Originally by: Horizonist Incursion has moved to a system called PROMISED LAND it seems Needs more bold and CAPSLOCK
Letrange Minmatar Chaosstorm Corporation	Posted - 2011.01.23 22:08:00 - [56] Wellp after 3+ years of trying, I finally get the "SOUL-CRUSHING LAG" warning window. This should be "amusing". Course like an idiot I thought it was 1300+ when I jumped in and I'm like "ok that should be like Jita"... Fool me... I get here and find out it's around 1700+ and we're stressing out the hamsters... For some reason I picture CCP Yokai as an engineer on an old steam engine, driving an 4-8-8-4 Pacific going flat out, screaming at the fireman "More coal!"

CCP Yokai	Posted - 2011.01.23 22:09:00 - [57] This is the highest I've seen one of these go... Usually maxing out after 300-500.

Jovan Geldon Gallente Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire	Posted - 2011.01.23 22:09:00 - [58] Originally by: Terrestria Solara Sanshas acccidentally the whole station? Nope, it's been like that for years, since the Minmatar Elder fleet had a pop at it on their way to Amarr.
Tyke Orlieveit	Posted - 2011.01.23 22:09:00 - [59] If you are stuck in the system, Log Out and Log in, and you seem to come back at the other side of the gate. Also, CCP Fail on Re-enforced mode. first mass event I've ever gone to and I am seriously, seriously disappoint. :( 10+ min weapon cycles? :(

CCP Yokai	Posted - 2011.01.23 22:10:00 - [60] Edited by: CCP Yokai on 23/01/2011 22:15:42 Originally by: Letrange Wellp after 3+ years of trying, I finally get the "SOUL-CRUSHING LAG" warning window. This should be "amusing". Course like an idiot I thought it was 1300+ when I jumped in and I'm like "ok that should be like Jita"... Fool me... I get here and find out it's around 1700+ and we're stressing out the hamsters... For some reason I picture CCP Yokai as an engineer on an old steam engine, driving an 4-8-8-4 Pacific going flat out, screaming at the fireman "More coal!" Haha, Sooo close to the truth!

Estel Arador	Posted - 2011.01.23 22:10:00 - [61] Originally by: Letrange Wellp after 3+ years of trying, I finally get the "SOUL-CRUSHING LAG" warning window. I think it's nice that the client takes a moment to tell you you've been waiting so long. It would be even nicer if it would serve a drink and a cookie during the wait.

CCP Yokai	Posted - 2011.01.23 22:11:00 - [62] Originally by: Tyke Orlieveit If you are stuck in the system, Log Out and Log in, and you seem to come back at the other side of the gate. Also, CCP Fail on Re-enforced mode. first mass event I've ever gone to and I am seriously, seriously disappoint. :( 10+ min weapon cycles? :( Sorry, node was re-enforced at downtime today and is on the biggest node. Just more players than this little system could take.

Serge Bastana Gallente GWA Corp	Posted - 2011.01.23 22:12:00 - [63] Originally by: Estel Arador Originally by: Letrange Wellp after 3+ years of trying, I finally get the "SOUL-CRUSHING LAG" warning window. I think it's nice that the client takes a moment to tell you you've been waiting so long. It would be even nicer if it would serve a drink and a cookie during the wait. I gave up waiting and logged off, might check back in a couple of hours to see if it's cleared up. I have a drink and a cig that I gave myself ------------------------------------------------ Quafe is people!
Goose99	Posted - 2011.01.23 22:12:00 - [64] Originally by: CCP Yokai Originally by: Tyke Orlieveit If you are stuck in the system, Log Out and Log in, and you seem to come back at the other side of the gate. Also, CCP Fail on Re-enforced mode. first mass event I've ever gone to and I am seriously, seriously disappoint. :( 10+ min weapon cycles? :( Sorry, node was re-enforced at downtime today and is on the biggest node. Just more players than this little system could take. Jita has more ppl, what happened to that?
Horizonist Yulai Guard 2nd Fleet Yulai Federation	Posted - 2011.01.23 22:13:00 - [65] Originally by: Iraherag Originally by: Horizonist Incursion has moved to a system called PROMISED LAND it seems Needs more bold and CAPSLOCK Promised Land is actually in caps in the system name, just spelling it as I see it. Thanks.
Vahligmarr Minmatar Tribal Core	Posted - 2011.01.23 22:13:00 - [66] Originally by: CCP Yokai Originally by: Tyke Orlieveit If you are stuck in the system, Log Out and Log in, and you seem to come back at the other side of the gate. Also, CCP Fail on Re-enforced mode. first mass event I've ever gone to and I am seriously, seriously disappoint. :( 10+ min weapon cycles? :( Sorry, node was re-enforced at downtime today and is on the biggest node. Just more players than this little system could take. would the dear sansha only show up in jita then, thx
Oathborne Caldari Genstar Inc	Posted - 2011.01.23 22:13:00 - [67] Nice try CCP. Would have been nice to see what happened.
Melkath Bandrom Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2011.01.23 22:14:00 - [68] Originally by: Tyke Orlieveit If you are stuck in the system, Log Out and Log in, and you seem to come back at the other side of the gate. ( Not working for me. Stuck leaving concorde station. DC'd twice even. still no joy.

CCP Yokai	Posted - 2011.01.23 22:15:00 - [69] Originally by: Goose99 Originally by: CCP Yokai Originally by: Tyke Orlieveit If you are stuck in the system, Log Out and Log in, and you seem to come back at the other side of the gate. Also, CCP Fail on Re-enforced mode. first mass event I've ever gone to and I am seriously, seriously disappoint. :( 10+ min weapon cycles? :( Sorry, node was re-enforced at downtime today and is on the biggest node. Just more players than this little system could take. Jita has more ppl, what happened to that? Jita usually has few people shooting things... it impacts the total capacity of the server when shooting things.

Vahligmarr Minmatar Tribal Core	Posted - 2011.01.23 22:15:00 - [70] Originally by: Melkath Bandrom Originally by: Tyke Orlieveit If you are stuck in the system, Log Out and Log in, and you seem to come back at the other side of the gate. ( Not working for me. Stuck leaving concorde station. DC'd twice even. still no joy. yeah,lots of ships hanging there around the docking bay
Iraherag	Posted - 2011.01.23 22:16:00 - [71] Originally by: Horizonist Originally by: Iraherag Originally by: Horizonist Incursion has moved to a system called PROMISED LAND it seems Needs more bold and CAPSLOCK Promised Land is actually in caps in the system name, just spelling it as I see it. Thanks. You're welcome.
Rasael Sogerin Gallente	Posted - 2011.01.23 22:16:00 - [72] Originally by: CCP StevieSG Looks like CCP Yokai's Supernode is working... :\|
Vahligmarr Minmatar Tribal Core	Posted - 2011.01.23 22:17:00 - [73] Originally by: CCP Yokai Originally by: Goose99 Originally by: CCP Yokai Originally by: Tyke Orlieveit If you are stuck in the system, Log Out and Log in, and you seem to come back at the other side of the gate. Also, CCP Fail on Re-enforced mode. first mass event I've ever gone to and I am seriously, seriously disappoint. :( 10+ min weapon cycles? :( Sorry, node was re-enforced at downtime today and is on the biggest node. Just more players than this little system could take. Jita has more ppl, what happened to that? Jita usually has few people shooting things... it impacts the total capacity of the server when shooting things. well isnt there a lot of shooting in missions, too?
Hu Evur	Posted - 2011.01.23 22:17:00 - [74] Did you seriously not expect the Technetium fueled NC blob? Wow, you need to keep up on events.
Tyke Orlieveit	Posted - 2011.01.23 22:17:00 - [75] Originally by: CCP Yokai Originally by: Tyke Orlieveit If you are stuck in the system, Log Out and Log in, and you seem to come back at the other side of the gate. Also, CCP Fail on Re-enforced mode. first mass event I've ever gone to and I am seriously, seriously disappoint. :( 10+ min weapon cycles? :( Sorry, node was re-enforced at downtime today and is on the biggest node. Just more players than this little system could take. 0_o I didn't expect a response, but awesome, thanks! It was a real disappointment unfortunately due to the fact that everything completely died on it's rear, but at least you know now what to expect when you get players all excited and it's a high-sec event! I'm sure you guys all did what you could to get it stable, I'd love to go to other events, but it's left a bit of a sour taste when you can't really even communicate what's happening except for with out-of-eve tools.
Samari Hekard	Posted - 2011.01.23 22:18:00 - [76] Lets put it this way. I think at max Yulai was at just below 1700 people. I turned all brackets and effects off. I couldn't shoot. I couldn't align. I couldn't release drones. If I did at planet V, I'd then all of a sudden warp to the sun and 5 minutes later 4 drones (out of 5) would be released. No idea what happened to my fifth HG-II. Then when I finally got the drones back in... I'd warp to Planet V to check on the Sansha slave ship and to start hitting it. I could shoot. When I started following it, I couldn't NOT follow it. I couldn't stop. I couldn't warp off. I couldn't do ANYTHING for 15 minutes. This was a cluster Fudge to say the least.
Iraherag	Posted - 2011.01.23 22:24:00 - [77] You know the saddest thing about this is that somewhere you will read that this was another great record, a brilliant technical achievement and a demonstration of true excellence to have so many pilots in one system, fighting it out, without the server crashing. Of course you won't read about the crippling lag, the 20 minutes required for jumping out of this mess and the hour you have to spend without local after crashing with your client or that you were lucky to fire one round in 90 minutes, no matter how much you manually cycled or ungrouped or whatever or the GMs "we can't do anything - you should be back in control soon".
Paul Zinge	Posted - 2011.01.23 22:25:00 - [78] Well that was not fun at all. CCP FIX YOUR MAJOR BUGS before you release it! I was unable to do anything useful as soon as I warped in. I just had to sit there till people logged off or were able to warp out. I was expecting some slowdown. but not to the point it was at. CCP I have NEVER been disappointed in you before today.
Brutor'Man X Minmatar Brutor Tribe	Posted - 2011.01.23 22:26:00 - [79] Originally by: Samari Hekard Lets put it this way. I think at max Yulai was at just below 1700 people. I turned all brackets and effects off. I couldn't shoot. I couldn't align. I couldn't release drones. If I did at planet V, I'd then all of a sudden warp to the sun and 5 minutes later 4 drones (out of 5) would be released. No idea what happened to my fifth HG-II. Then when I finally got the drones back in... I'd warp to Planet V to check on the Sansha slave ship and to start hitting it. I could shoot. When I started following it, I couldn't NOT follow it. I couldn't stop. I couldn't warp off. I couldn't do ANYTHING for 15 minutes. This was a cluster Fudge to say the least. The only time I experienced any real lag was when morsus mihi did a leroy in local. Otherwise the entire event at worst was about a 20 second delay on actions. Pretty impressive at least from my personal experience.

CCP Yokai	Posted - 2011.01.23 22:26:00 - [80] Originally by: Vahligmarr well isnt there a lot of shooting in missions, too? Yes, this is more along the lines of what Motsu looks like.. it would never make it to 1700+ either.

Akor Flandres	Posted - 2011.01.23 22:27:00 - [81] Originally by: Paul Zinge Well that was not fun at all. CCP FIX YOUR MAJOR BUGS before you release it! I was unable to do anything useful as soon as I warped in. I just had to sit there till people logged off or were able to warp out. I was expecting some slowdown. but not to the point it was at. CCP I have NEVER been disappointed in you before today. This is not going to be representitive of the incursion feature, in any way. It's an event, and 1700 people turned up to it, which even Jita would struggle with.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2011.01.23 22:27:00 - [82] Well, heyà my chat channels are back. Grid is moving about. Local is down to a mere 1000. Outstanding network calls are zeroà ànow all I'm waiting for is for the old calls to come back with some kind of response so I can stop moving forward and turn these ECCM modules off. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
Ben Alman Gallente	Posted - 2011.01.23 22:28:00 - [83] Quote: The only time I experienced any real lag was when morsus mihi did a leroy in local. Otherwise the entire event at worst was about a 20 second delay on actions. Pretty impressive at least from my personal experience. This. Probably much client lag, too
Kai Lae Gallente Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2011.01.23 22:30:00 - [84] Originally by: CCP Yokai This is the highest I've seen one of these go... Usually maxing out after 300-500. Next time don't have a rumor saying that reverant BPC could be had, as well as anyone in the area would be a free fire target, meaning guaranteed huge amounts of kills. Also, T2 loot on MS, crappy fit for sure.
PTang	Posted - 2011.01.23 22:30:00 - [85] Originally by: Laerise Originally by: CCP StevieSG Looks like CCP Yokai's Supernode is working... Making a joke out of failure, thats the way to go chaps, well done CCP. si it's a failure now to allow 7 times the number of players as wow does in the same space? Auction house in wow lags at 200 people. And that's no combat.
Allant Doran Amarr Locus Industries	Posted - 2011.01.23 22:30:00 - [86] Just want to take a minute ot thank CCP for at least doing the best you can as it stands. These live events are very cool and, while the lag was pretty terrible by the 1700 player mark (being blunt, haha) it was still interesting. I do love the live events and don't want them to go away but I really, REALLY hope that you can do more to cure the lag of huge player numbers in single systems in the future. Perfect that and you arguably perfect EVE. Everything else is minor by comparison.
Elder Darok	Posted - 2011.01.23 22:32:00 - [87] CCP disconnected?
PTang	Posted - 2011.01.23 22:33:00 - [88] Originally by: Allant Doran Just want to take a minute ot thank CCP for at least doing the best you can as it stands. These live events are very cool and, while the lag was pretty terrible by the 1700 player mark (being blunt, haha) it was still interesting. I do love the live events and don't want them to go away but I really, REALLY hope that you can do more to cure the lag of huge player numbers in single systems in the future. Perfect that and you arguably perfect EVE. Everything else is minor by comparison. impossible, if it didn't lag at 3000 players they would bring 4000
Tyke Orlieveit	Posted - 2011.01.23 22:33:00 - [89] Originally by: Allant Doran ...Just want to take a minute ot thank CCP for at least doing the best you can as it stands. These live events are very cool and, while the lag was pretty terrible by the 1700 player mark (being blunt, haha) it was still interesting. I do love the live events and don't want them to go away but I really, REALLY hope that you can do more to cure the lag of huge player numbers in single systems in the future... To be fair, I'm disappointed in what happened, but I'm impressed the node didn't actually die.. Kudos are due for that of course.

CCP Headfirst	Posted - 2011.01.23 22:34:00 - [90] I must say I'm quite impressed by how many people showed up tonight. As I've said many times before, the best part of these live events has always been the players who really get involved. It's not over yet, but I just thought I'd pop in to express my sincere thanks for how awesome you guys have made live events!

Fulbert Gallente	Posted - 2011.01.23 22:34:00 - [91] Epic logoffski :// -------------------------------- Fulbert. Miner - Industrialist
Calathea Sata	Posted - 2011.01.23 22:38:00 - [92] Lag lag lag, lag lag lag, then more lag, lag lag and then lag, lag lag lag and lag, some more lag lag and lag, lag lag lag and lag, and lag lag and lag lag lag. Can't really appreciate it when all it happened was lag, don't give us sheets like this, it's unplayable, don't pretend it's not a failure.
RiskyFrisky Under the Table Inc.	Posted - 2011.01.23 22:38:00 - [93] Edited by: RiskyFrisky on 23/01/2011 22:39:03 Heard the Carrier disappeared. P.S. I'm in Jita waiting for the fitting of my Jaguar to show up after I bought it ten minutes ago. -
Siiee Recycled Heroes	Posted - 2011.01.23 22:39:00 - [94] Originally by: PTang impossible, if it didn't lag at 3000 players they would bring 4000 That argument only works if development constantly stays behind the number of subscribers. There are not an unlimited number of people that can log into eve.
Sniperdoc Caldari Eerie Industries	Posted - 2011.01.23 22:39:00 - [95] I think the amount of people in system should've been capped. This is something CCP does for Jita and they should have been well aware of the possible numbers for this event as well. This to me, was a waste of valuable time I could have spent missioning. Instead I get aggravated for an hour in a severe clickfest in laghaven. Drakes ROCK!
$Refractor$ Refractor	Posted - 2011.01.23 22:39:00 - [96] Worst event ever. Totally not playable. EPIC FAIL. I am seriously considering now to uninstall EVE. This game is simply broken. Worst hour of playing in my entire life.
Brandrsun Caldari	Posted - 2011.01.23 22:40:00 - [97] sooo dont tell me you didnt expect this to happen CCP...
Mathiior	Posted - 2011.01.23 22:40:00 - [98] Really dissapointing actually. Way too much lag, I couldn't even move my ship. If this is the way it works then you are going to loose customers.
Melkath Bandrom Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2011.01.23 22:40:00 - [99] Originally by: Refractor Worst event ever. Totally not playable. EPIC FAIL. I am seriously considering now to uninstall EVE. This game is simply broken. Worst hour of playing in my entire life. Can I haz ur stuffs? My Thread, I get 1st claim!!
Alexis Trisk	Posted - 2011.01.23 22:40:00 - [100] was in the fight for approximately 35 minutes, 25 minutes of which i was trying to warp out because i couldn't even target the supercap. went away grabbed some food came back was dc'd log back on 10 minutes later screen pops back up, try to warp again can no longer see my chat section completely gone no way to get it back tried to warp to gate again, 22 minutes later i'm at gate looked at armor, didn't register even 1% down on shield tried to jump through gate gave me a warning saying that it'd be 5 minutes and my ship went invisible. left came back from getting a drink still at the gate, quit the game. started it back up was sitting outside the gate in my pod on the touerre side. Must have hopped out somewhere in the jump and i just don't remember. Thanks CCP

CCP Yokai	Posted - 2011.01.23 22:41:00 - [101] Originally by: Sniperdoc I think the amount of people in system should've been capped. This is something CCP does for Jita and they should have been well aware of the possible numbers for this event as well. This to me, was a waste of valuable time I could have spent missioning. Instead I get aggravated for an hour in a severe clickfest in laghaven. We were aware and mapped the biggest badest server to it... Not sure there is a server made that could keep up with the awesome turnout!

Iraherag	Posted - 2011.01.23 22:41:00 - [102] Originally by: CCP Headfirst I must say I'm quite impressed by how many people showed up tonight. As I've said many times before, the best part of these live events has always been the players who really get involved. It's not over yet, but I just thought I'd pop in to express my sincere thanks for how awesome you guys have made live events! You sure seem to have a strange idea about what things are awesome. Could you explain what you found so awesome in 1500 people lagging like crazy?
Akor Flandres	Posted - 2011.01.23 22:41:00 - [103] Originally by: Mathiior Really dissapointing actually. Way too much lag, I couldn't even move my ship. If this is the way it works then you are going to loose customers. This was a Live event, not an insursion. Get real.
ABrownie	Posted - 2011.01.23 22:42:00 - [104] Is there some way to get info on what's going on in the system? Who shoot who? what exited the WHs? did the sun get turned into a WH? things like that. I think it's a great event and i would have loved to be able to be able to get in on it.
Brutor'Man X Minmatar Brutor Tribe	Posted - 2011.01.23 22:42:00 - [105] lol at the lagrage comments. If you had been there you would have realised that it was actually pretty playable unless you have never experienced fleet lag in eve before. I'm sure the nullsec guys were probably a bit impressed.
Caiman Graystock Caldari Massively Mob	Posted - 2011.01.23 22:43:00 - [106] Yeah even at 1500+ in system I was was able to warp from planet to planet to star, firing off salvos was something else altogether though, but whether it ultimately lagged out or not, it was still pretty epic to see 1700 people cram into the system and bring some supercaps down in 1.0
Julianus Soter Gallente Moira.	Posted - 2011.01.23 22:45:00 - [107] Max local was 1600. MAXIMIZE ALL FIREPOWER ON THAT SUPER STAR DESTROYER . .. Ahem. Supercarrier, I mean. Nothing we could actually do, of course, due to the lag.
Barkaial Starfinder Minmatar The Kairos Syndicate Transmission Lost	Posted - 2011.01.23 22:45:00 - [108] Enough with the WHINE! Just tell us what was supposed to happen in this event.. Because I have no idea what happened there. On a side note... Why not just make this event scattered along the galaxy?? Does it need a specific location? Hitting Concord?
Calathea Sata	Posted - 2011.01.23 22:45:00 - [109] Originally by: Barkaial Starfinder Enough with the WHINE! Just tell us what was supposed to happen in this event.. Because I have no idea what happened there. Lag lag lag and lag lag lag.
Jowen Datloran Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2011.01.23 22:46:00 - [110] I do not know what you people are complaining about. First I went to Yulai to pick up Fat Belly, a ship I had left in system from the time Yulai was the central trade hub of New Eden. Then I warped around a bit, saw the Revenant at the sun, engaged and watched it disappear. Then flew to planet 5 and engaged the Revenant there. Took some time so I got bored and left Yulai instead. No lag issues except I had to shoot my gun manually, but it reacted all the time then. Btw. I could run a second instance of EVE while being in Yulai with my alt who was in Rens. -- Mr. Science & Trade Institute - EVE Lorebook - Mysteries of W-space
SEALen	Posted - 2011.01.23 22:47:00 - [111] Hehe I laugh at you ppl that are saying you are dissapointed with the lag. I don't think you are aware of what you are asking of the system... just think about it.... 500 ppl at the sun... you start shooting the enemy. All other 500 ppl around you need to get the info that you are shooting. Now mulitply this with 500 cos they are all also shooting.... man the load and the amount of IO the server need to do.... Amazed it did as well as it did. ------------------------- EVE is always on my mind.
Zhim'Fufu	Posted - 2011.01.23 22:47:00 - [112] Edited by: Zhim''Fufu on 23/01/2011 22:47:17 Originally by: Caiman Graystock Yeah even at 1500+ in system I was was able to warp from planet to planet to star, firing off salvos was something else altogether though, but whether it ultimately lagged out or not, it was still pretty epic to see 1700 people cram into the system and bring some supercaps down in 1.0 Normal fleetfight settings were in effect. Unless you turned off your brackets, turned off autorepeat and set everything as low as possible you would have had crushing client side lag which has nothing to do with the node. I had my client set up for fleet fights and I has no issues past a bit of modual lag which is easy to overcome. Yeah I showed up after all to see how well it would go firsthand.
Sniperdoc Caldari Eerie Industries	Posted - 2011.01.23 22:47:00 - [113] Originally by: CCP Yokai Originally by: Sniperdoc I think the amount of people in system should've been capped. This is something CCP does for Jita and they should have been well aware of the possible numbers for this event as well. This to me, was a waste of valuable time I could have spent missioning. Instead I get aggravated for an hour in a severe clickfest in laghaven. We were aware and mapped the biggest badest server to it... Not sure there is a server made that could keep up with the awesome turnout! But, there's no excuse for leaving the system uncapped to at least make the game playable for the players that made it in. You guys should definitely have the stats for this after how many years of running your servers? Sorry... but I can't make light of that situation at all. It should have been capped entry to that system. You guys have the stats on your equipment's capabilities. If you don't... then I don't even know how to address that. EPIC FAIL. Drakes ROCK!
TheNorthwind	Posted - 2011.01.23 22:47:00 - [114] I was chatting in fleet and in corp throughout, and funnilly enough most of the people who completely lagged out in the engagements were running standard overviews. Not all but many. I was badly lagged- manually recycling modules etc and big delays- but it stayed more or less trundling along and stuff got done. CCP's big mistake IMO was making the targets so uninteresting- huge fat resist monsters, just sit and shoot for an hour, blah. And now they're apparently off in Promised Land but most people seem to have lost interest.
Estel Arador	Posted - 2011.01.23 22:49:00 - [115] Originally by: Sniperdoc It should have been capped entry to that system. You guys have the stats on your equipment's capabilities. If you don't... then I don't even know how to address that. EPIC FAIL. Regardless of theoretical stats, don't you think it's wise to push a system to its limit every now and then to see how your stats hold up?
Rikanin Gallente Azerick Holdings	Posted - 2011.01.23 22:50:00 - [116] Originally by: CCP StevieSG Looks like CCP Yokai's Supernode is working... haha...yeah...not so much really. Lag was so bad ... I'll be AVOIDING any incursion site from now on, thanks.
Aessoroz Nohbdy.	Posted - 2011.01.23 22:50:00 - [117] Edited by: Aessoroz on 23/01/2011 22:50:20 WELCOME TO NULL SEC...O WAIT... I had infinite alpha though that was awesome, all I had to do was spam F1 and I would fire 1400mm arty volley instantly without waiting for weapon cycles.
Mathiior	Posted - 2011.01.23 22:51:00 - [118] Originally by: Akor Flandres Originally by: Mathiior Really dissapointing actually. Way too much lag, I couldn't even move my ship. If this is the way it works then you are going to loose customers. This was a Live event, not an insursion. Get real. Whatever, it was a complete waste of time for me. Live event that many couldn't even really participate in.
Zhim'Fufu	Posted - 2011.01.23 22:52:00 - [119] Originally by: Rikanin Originally by: CCP StevieSG Looks like CCP Yokai's Supernode is working... haha...yeah...not so much really. Lag was so bad ... I'll be AVOIDING any incursion site from now on, thanks. Haha. If you think the lag in yulai was bad with 1700+ in local all shooting you must run level 4 mission deep in safe highsec for a living.
Widemouth Deepthroat	Posted - 2011.01.23 22:52:00 - [120] Please nerf jb, super cap and blob in general as punishment for NC lagging out this live event.
Iraherag	Posted - 2011.01.23 22:53:00 - [121] Originally by: Zhim'Fufu Originally by: Rikanin Originally by: CCP StevieSG Looks like CCP Yokai's Supernode is working... haha...yeah...not so much really. Lag was so bad ... I'll be AVOIDING any incursion site from now on, thanks. Haha. If you think the lag in yulai was bad with 1700+ in local all shooting you must run level 4 mission deep in safe highsec for a living. You seem to be very proud to waste your time with lag. Good for you!
Kengutsi Akira	Posted - 2011.01.23 22:53:00 - [122] Edited by: Kengutsi Akira on 23/01/2011 22:54:02 lol Super fighting expansion falls down in the face of actually getting enough ppl to fight in one system? Dunno how it is now, but running lvl IVs in deep highsec USED to be the worst place to run them. PPl would swarm the area where the lvl IVs were lol
The Snowman Gallente The Ascension	Posted - 2011.01.23 22:54:00 - [123] Originally by: CCP Headfirst I must say I'm quite impressed by how many people showed up tonight. As I've said many times before, the best part of these live events has always been the players who really get involved. It's not over yet, but I just thought I'd pop in to express my sincere thanks for how awesome you guys have made live events! Isnt this a bit of a contradiction though, I mean, you thank everyone for turning up, fair enough, but because so many turned up actually made an incredibly sucky event... not the "awesome" you claim it to have been.
Zhim'Fufu	Posted - 2011.01.23 22:55:00 - [124] Edited by: Zhim''Fufu on 23/01/2011 22:56:47 Originally by: Widemouth Deepthroat Please nerf jb, super cap and blob in general as punishment for NC lagging out this live event. Tbh this was the laggest free fleet fight I have ever been in. Only a 3 minute wait to jump in system and at worst a 20 second lag to actions? Might as well have been the only person in the system shooting belt rats compared to your normal fleet fight. Originally by: Iraherag Originally by: Zhim'Fufu Originally by: Rikanin Originally by: CCP StevieSG Looks like CCP Yokai's Supernode is working... haha...yeah...not so much really. Lag was so bad ... I'll be AVOIDING any incursion site from now on, thanks. Haha. If you think the lag in yulai was bad with 1700+ in local all shooting you must run level 4 mission deep in safe highsec for a living. You seem to be very proud to waste your time with lag. Good for you! Keep on trollin mate. If you couldn't do anything in yulai at its peak then you are clueless on how to fight in lag. Which wasn't even really bad at all. But you knew that already.
Kengutsi Akira	Posted - 2011.01.23 22:56:00 - [125] Edited by: Kengutsi Akira on 23/01/2011 22:57:09 Originally by: The Snowman Originally by: CCP Headfirst I must say I'm quite impressed by how many people showed up tonight. As I've said many times before, the best part of these live events has always been the players who really get involved. It's not over yet, but I just thought I'd pop in to express my sincere thanks for how awesome you guys have made live events! Isnt this a bit of a contradiction though, I mean, you thank everyone for turning up, fair enough, but because so many turned up actually made an incredibly sucky event... not the "awesome" you claim it to have been. "awesome" = lagtasticly horrrible. Dont you know that? Well it is an improvement from what ive heard... didnt the normal system attack used to be jump so many into system that is crashes the node and have a second client open so you can log in before everyone else and kill them while theyre lagging in?
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2011.01.23 22:59:00 - [126] Originally by: Kengutsi Akira Super fighting expansion falls down in the face of actually getting enough ppl to fight in one system? Not really, no. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
Vladimir Ilych Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2011.01.23 22:59:00 - [127] Really wanted to enjoy the event and looked forward to it, but it was sadly, a total exercise in frustration. Got off maybe a dozen volleys. Guns would not auto cycle. 120 seconds from command to execution.
Iraherag	Posted - 2011.01.23 23:00:00 - [128] Originally by: Zhim'Fufu Keep on trollin mate. If you couldn't do anything in yulai at its peak then you are clueless on how to fight in lag. Which wasn't even really bad at all. But you knew that already. I hope you enjoyed your "laggest free fleet fight". Don't bother with using proper words, you could hurt your little head...
Rikanin Gallente Azerick Holdings	Posted - 2011.01.23 23:00:00 - [129] Originally by: Zhim'Fufu Originally by: Rikanin Originally by: CCP StevieSG Looks like CCP Yokai's Supernode is working... haha...yeah...not so much really. Lag was so bad ... I'll be AVOIDING any incursion site from now on, thanks. Haha. If you think the lag in yulai was bad with 1700+ in local all shooting you must run level 4 mission deep in safe highsec for a living. What's your point? That an unplayable event would be more tolerable to the average player if they were subjected to those conditions on a regular basis?
Elder Darok	Posted - 2011.01.23 23:01:00 - [130] who cares that it lagged wtf did it end so abruptly? excuse, me, I mean "I'm off to promised land"
Ephemeron Lubricous Rebel Alliance of New Eden	Posted - 2011.01.23 23:01:00 - [131] I got a solution to the live event node overloading problem: Whenever CCP does some special event thing, it attracts thousands of people, correct? And the server simply can't handle that many. So how do we have special events and keep server running smoothly? The answer: Kill people! As soon as player count starts approaching dangerous levels (for server stability), the event staff get really angry and start killing AND podding people right and left, until the numbers return to managable levels. It's the perfect solution. Who's with me?
Aessoroz Nohbdy.	Posted - 2011.01.23 23:03:00 - [132] To be fair the event staff couldn't kill people because 1. They were trying to use fighters to kill ships like true newbs 2. The lag pretty much shut down their own controls as well.
Zhim'Fufu	Posted - 2011.01.23 23:05:00 - [133] Originally by: Rikanin Originally by: Zhim'Fufu Originally by: Rikanin Originally by: CCP StevieSG Looks like CCP Yokai's Supernode is working... haha...yeah...not so much really. Lag was so bad ... I'll be AVOIDING any incursion site from now on, thanks. Haha. If you think the lag in yulai was bad with 1700+ in local all shooting you must run level 4 mission deep in safe highsec for a living. What's your point? That an unplayable event would be more tolerable to the average player if they were subjected to those conditions on a regular basis? The point is that for having 1700 people in local and all shooting you could do it with minimal modual lag. Normally if you are in a nullsec fleet fight with 1700 players you simply don't load the screen at all for maybe hours and when you finally do load you are either dead or have half hour or worse modual lag. Then the node dies. But being an empire carebear in a system that rarely goes over 40 max you wouldn't know this. The new supernode really is super it seems.
Kengutsi Akira	Posted - 2011.01.23 23:07:00 - [134] Originally by: Rikanin What's your point? That an unplayable event would be more tolerable to the average player if they were subjected to those conditions on a regular basis? Thats kinda the point I was going for in saying its silly to HAVE to "know how to fight in lag" in the first place
Ische Qou	Posted - 2011.01.23 23:07:00 - [135] It was awesome I even hit Heavenboundo2 for 2.2 damage with my dual modal pulse laser I.
Harrigan VonStudly Original Sin. PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS	Posted - 2011.01.23 23:10:00 - [136] "excellence is what we strive to be if you're going to follow us to the top HTFU" lawlz. the top? /snickering military experts are devising new tactics around the node limits. it's called "time out" time out, time out, don't engage until both sides decide unilaterally what numbers to bring in a military fight so as not to lag and still have it be playable.
Helicity Boson Amarr The Python Cartel. The Defenders of Pen Island	Posted - 2011.01.23 23:11:00 - [137] CCP in hardware cannot handle player numbers nonshocker.
Zhim'Fufu	Posted - 2011.01.23 23:11:00 - [138] Edited by: Zhim''Fufu on 23/01/2011 23:17:13 Originally by: Kengutsi Akira Originally by: Rikanin What's your point? That an unplayable event would be more tolerable to the average player if they were subjected to those conditions on a regular basis? Thats kinda the point I was going for in saying its silly to HAVE to "know how to fight in lag" in the first place You are still missing the point. Yulai survived 1700 pew pewing players and only lagged a bit and on top of it all the node didn't die. This is unheard of in eve for such a massive fight. As far as the 'know how to fight in lag' comment well you have to do what you have to do. Sorry that the general technology for single sharded servers isn't up to your carebear standards. I heard sto does instances so you won't have to worry about lag. Oh whoops even that lags too I hear. Usually much worse than eve. Originally by: Kengutsi Akira Originally by: Zhim'Fufu The point is that for having 1700 people in local and all shooting you could do it with minimal modual lag. Normally if you are in a nullsec fleet fight with 1700 players you simply don't load the screen at all for maybe hours and when you finally do load you are either dead or have half hour or worse modual lag. Then the node dies. But being an empire carebear in a system that rarely goes over 40 max you wouldn't know this. The new supernode really is super it seems. lol I love how ppl are proud of this So taking what once used to be an unplayable amount of people and turning it into a playable event with a bit of lag is somehow a failure. lol I love how ppl are such clueless trolls
Jeanne Varto	Posted - 2011.01.23 23:14:00 - [139] What a giant waste of time. You were just touting the "3000+ in local without issue" and yet it couldnt handle 1600? What a true disappointment
Mutant Caldari Caldari Percussive Diplomacy	Posted - 2011.01.23 23:15:00 - [140] I love all of the highsec carebears whining about the lag that just about every 0.0 blob vs blob fest gets at around 700 now. Yeah I am a pirate. What are you gonna do about it? Killboard link is not allowed to be used in a signature.Applebabe
Sniperdoc Caldari Eerie Industries	Posted - 2011.01.23 23:17:00 - [141] Lagged a bit??? Are you high? I mashed Warp to Gate for literally 15 minutes without a response. I spent over a half hour just following the slave ship. I couldn't stop the ship, I couldn't fire, I couldn't do ANYTHING! That's not nominal lag. That was just hosed. Drakes ROCK!
Ephemeron Lubricous Rebel Alliance of New Eden	Posted - 2011.01.23 23:17:00 - [142] Originally by: Aessoroz To be fair the event staff couldn't kill people because 1. They were trying to use fighters to kill ships like true newbs 2. The lag pretty much shut down their own controls as well. The main idea is to start killing people before lag gets out of hand. And of course they'd need something other than fighters
Zhim'Fufu	Posted - 2011.01.23 23:18:00 - [143] Originally by: Sniperdoc Lagged a bit??? Are you high? I mashed Warp to Gate for literally 15 minutes without a response. I spent over a half hour just following the slave ship. I couldn't stop the ship, I couldn't fire, I couldn't do ANYTHING! That's not nominal lag. That was just hosed. Then you are either lying or don't know how to setup your client for a fleet fight.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2011.01.23 23:19:00 - [144] Originally by: Mutant Caldari I love all of the highsec carebears whining about the lag that just about every 0.0 blob vs blob fest gets at around 700 now. ànot to mention that when it was still around the 1300û1400 region, things were downright snappy. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
Vladimir Ilych Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2011.01.23 23:20:00 - [145] Not everyone gets the same experience. For me the event was not "playable". If CCP are gonna hold these events they need to be able to offer a decent experience for everyone attending (or limit the numbers). If CCP want to put up an SLA of what is "playable" for certain numbers of people in a system that would be a great help. But seeing as a lot of factors are outside their control I cannot see that happening.
Ron Bacardi SniggWaffe	Posted - 2011.01.23 23:21:00 - [146] Edited by: Ron Bacardi on 23/01/2011 23:21:57 Isn't this cute?! All the little highsec carebears crying about lag!! Newsflash: 1700+ fighting in one area is unheard of in any game. And honestly, if you are so dumb as to think this is what every incursion is going to be, GTFO and don't let the door hit you on the way out. You're not wanted here.
Sniperdoc Caldari Eerie Industries	Posted - 2011.01.23 23:23:00 - [147] Originally by: Zhim'Fufu Then you are either lying or don't know how to setup your client for a fleet fight. Actually if you'd like to see my fraps collection of the lag fest with EVERYTHING turned off graphically, no effect, no brackets, nothing on the screen other than the chat... That was a suckfest... plain and simple. If you DIDN'T lag, then you got lucky. Drakes ROCK!
Vladimir Ilych Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2011.01.23 23:25:00 - [148] alt+shift+z: brackets off ctrl+alt+shift+t: turret effects off ctrl+alt+shift+e: effects off and it still lagged massively
Akira Samposeppa Gallente Arthashastra	Posted - 2011.01.23 23:26:00 - [149] well imo there is a difference between lag and unplayable... Last incursion in ashab..was unplayable... Today in Yulai was better...there was lag..a lot of lag, but with patience you could manage your modules (set weapons not to cycle) and warp off, lock target etc...
Fearless M0F0 Aliastra	Posted - 2011.01.23 23:29:00 - [150] I took a Geddon and quickly slapped a drake for my alt. I was able to put some damage with geddon by manually clicking the guns every 4 seconds. My alt in Drake was useless, barely got 4 rounds of missiles out for the 2 hrs. I guess missiles are bad on laggy situations so next time I'll bring him in a turret based BS. -- I take offense on people feeling offended by me
Eclorc	Posted - 2011.01.23 23:30:00 - [151] Originally by: Ron Bacardi ... Newsflash: 1700+ fighting in one area is unheard of in any game. ... Well... what I think is really the main issue here, is that if that kind of fight is insupportable, then why the frak allow more than a sensible and workable number inside of that one system in the first place? Past events have lagged as bad, or actually worse at times, a cap limit on numbers would seem to be a decent idea for future events. I'd bet the only reason this cap limit has never been done for nulsec lagfests, is probably cos you'd instantly get enough of your own guys inside to block the opposition from entering... For live events a limit could work tho.
flapie 2 Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2011.01.23 23:32:00 - [152] Edited by: flapie 2 on 23/01/2011 23:34:26 Actually the only cool thing about the event for me, was the travel to the system. loads of people every where racing to the event. After i got in the system itself it was pure drama, it was a bit better in some ways then the last one event i saw in high-sec tho. But thats only cause i tweaked the overvieuw a bit more, since graphic where allready on lowest. For some reason my europeen node always sucks, no matter what provider i use nor what connection type i have. I even spend like 10 minutes at the sun taking screenshot of something that was allready dead for half the people in there A well better luck next i hope, time to sleep befor i have to work
Revii Lagoon The Foreign Legion Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2011.01.23 23:34:00 - [153] 1300 people....yawn.....go to 0.0
Kai Lae Gallente Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2011.01.23 23:37:00 - [154] Originally by: Sniperdoc Edited by: Sniperdoc on 23/01/2011 23:19:30 Lagged a bit??? Are you high? I mashed Warp to Gate for literally 15 minutes without a response. I spent over a half hour just following the slave ship. I couldn't stop the ship, I couldn't fire, I couldn't do ANYTHING! That's not "minimal modal lag". That was just hosed. Welcome to a full scale fleet engagement. This is normal. Or did you think the constant complaints about it, pushed through the CSM, were because we just liked to complain about nothing? I'm guessing a lot of you have never actually seen a large engagement before, nor lag of this nature. That'd be the "soul-crushing lag" that gets complained about sometimes. In an engagement such as this, some will be able do to nothing. Some will be able to take minimal actions. Some will be able to act with only a minor delay. It's a crapshoot to tell which one it'll be for you, but if you're running a client that isn't set up to specifically combat it, you're putting yourself in a hurt locker. Perhaps the 'bears should stay away from these events because in honesty you all have no idea how to engage in that type of situation, don't know what you're doing, and aren't really adding anything. Overall I was fairly pleased with the lag. Modules were working (though autorepeat failed, you had to manually cycle guns - more on this in a moment), but my AB jammed on (again normal behavior) and cap use seemed not to be working (again par for the course). Ship was fairly responsive given the circumstances. Issues I saw were odd grid size changes (grid seemed to only be about 20km at one point near the sun - I went off grid orbiting at 12km firing on the mothership) and of course the infinite ROF gun problem. What's been happening recently is that with the new patch, the guns under heavy lag don't autorepeat, but fire every time you click on them, regardless of their ROF. I went through an entire autocannon clip in about 10 seconds, with the only delay being what the server could register. This is certian to be exploited in any large scale engagement and should be fixed asap by CCP. Also fix the gang bonuses you also managed to break. How CCP breaks things that they're not even working on in a patch is beyond me but it's happened again.
Goose99	Posted - 2011.01.23 23:38:00 - [155] Originally by: Zhim'Fufu Originally by: Rikanin Originally by: Zhim'Fufu Originally by: Rikanin haha...yeah...not so much really. Lag was so bad ... I'll be AVOIDING any incursion site from now on, thanks. Haha. If you think the lag in yulai was bad with 1700+ in local all shooting you must run level 4 mission deep in safe highsec for a living. What's your point? That an unplayable event would be more tolerable to the average player if they were subjected to those conditions on a regular basis? The point is that for having 1700 people in local and all shooting you could do it with minimal modual lag. Normally if you are in a nullsec fleet fight with 1700 players you simply don't load the screen at all for maybe hours and when you finally do load you are either dead or have half hour or worse modual lag. Then the node dies. But being an empire carebear in a system that rarely goes over 40 max you wouldn't know this. The new supernode really is super it seems. It took many people an hour to either undock or jump into Yulai. It's not just a few cycles module lag, that's the norm for 300+ ppl highsec mission hubs. Carebears are already used to it as normal background noise. It's no different than null blob lag, the only difference is that since it's concordland, and incompetent CCP staff hit small ships with fighters, few ppl actually got killed.
Higgs Foton hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2011.01.23 23:38:00 - [156] ALL HAIL KIM JONG LAU! I was in the NC fleet. My experiences were more positive. The lag wasn't that bad. I have seen far worse. I liked that you could fast-trigger your guns (i was in an Hellcat fit Abaddon) so i was blowing out salvo's every 3 seconds or so. Pretty nice. Can we haz that in normal fleetfights and pve as well? Dishing out 4000-5000 dps looks like fun. All in all i found this event to be pretty meh. The overacting in local was pretty bad. Fortunately the NC was there to provide with witty commands and words of praise of our beloved leader Vuk Lau, may his name be praised by many generations. I hope next time our brosefs from Goons and TEST also join in. They are even funnier when talking in local, though keeping up with reading tends to get hard after a while.. We amassed a fleet because TraderJohn said the system would effectively be 0.0 and that concord wouldn;t do anything hoping to create a tsunami of carebear tears for everyone to drown in. Our dissapointment was great when normal concord rules still aplied. We had a volunteer check this out. He will be reimbursed. Vuk Lau, our wise and just leader, loves his soldiers. Anyway, we shot some at the Sansha stuff, managed to secure all three revenant BPC's and went home again to bathe in our isk and technetium. Moderate fun was had. ___________________________________
Zhim'Fufu	Posted - 2011.01.23 23:38:00 - [157] Originally by: Sniperdoc Originally by: Zhim'Fufu Then you are either lying or don't know how to setup your client for a fleet fight. Actually if you'd like to see my fraps collection of the lag fest with EVERYTHING turned off graphically, no effect, no brackets, nothing on the screen other than the chat... That was a suckfest... plain and simple. If you DIDN'T lag, then you got lucky. I never stated I has no lag. Well I take that back. After jumping into yulai when it was still around the 1500 mark there was hardly any lag at all. Then morsus mihi started doing leroys in local which certainly started things lagging a bit then it hit the 1700 mark which is when the worst lag hit with up to 30 second delays for actions. But again compared to a normal fleet fight this was like ratting in your very own system. tl;dr this was a massive improvement to how fleet fights play out. As to the ones going boo hoo my live event wasn't smooth like my missions? Welp don't come next time so you don't have to 'suffer' so much.
Akor Flandres	Posted - 2011.01.23 23:42:00 - [158] Quote: managed to secure all three revenant BPC's of course you did
Mkah Mvet WORDS IN THE HEART CANNOT BE TAKEN	Posted - 2011.01.23 23:43:00 - [159] topped out at about 1680 people in local, with above 900 in local being basically unplayable. Wasn't able to do a single volley of damage until everybody got annoyed enough to leave and local dropped to 900. This was a super-node?
D3LTTA Sons of Anarchy.	Posted - 2011.01.23 23:44:00 - [160] tip for CCP i could understand you want these events to be unique but like these incursions. just spread them up through a couple of systems in eve so the load gets spread out maybe. it will probally still just atract more people in every of those systems but could probally try it. btw CCP stop replying it was awesome so many people came. no one could do anything . really cool if you guys want your events to go like this.
Zhim'Fufu	Posted - 2011.01.23 23:46:00 - [161] Originally by: Goose99 It's not just a few cycles module lag, that's the norm for 300+ ppl highsec mission hubs. Carebears are already used to it as normal background noise. It's no different than null blob lag, the only difference is that since it's concordland, and incompetent CCP staff hit small ships with fighters, few ppl actually got killed. I don't think ccp was out to kill anyone tbh. Think of this as a mass test disquised as a live event. Oops.
Sky Orcagna Caldari	Posted - 2011.01.23 23:46:00 - [162] Originally by: CCP Yokai We were aware and mapped the biggest badest server to it... Not sure there is a server made that could keep up with the awesome turnout! With all due respect, Yokai, I'm just at a loss to understand CCP's design philosophy here. And I'm not alone. By now, both players and devs are painfully aware that lag quickly reaches unplayable levels when many hundreds of pilots converge on a single system to do battle, even on EVE's most powerful servers. CCP has made herculean efforts to push the boundaries of what is possible within a massively multiplayer environment, an endeavor which deserves praise from gamers. That said, it seems way past time that CCP acknowledge that there is only so much that can be done with today's technology, and that a better solution is to account for this by designing new features that present fun and challenging opportunities for players to participate without encouraging massive, server-crashing blobs. There are numerous ways this could be accomplished and EVE players have been more than willing to offer suggestions on how it might be done without placing artificial restrictions on EVE's sandbox. Incursion in its current form appears to have been designed from the ground up to practically guarantee a gigantic blob and unplayable lag. The NPC opponents are so tough and the situation so unpredictable that there was never any doubt whatsoever how this was going to turn out. Why? This appears to just be bad design at this point. Honestly, CCP needs to acknowledge that lag is a serious technological problem and stop trying to overcome it with a brute force approach. A far more elegant solution would be to design new features that encourage and reward small-medium-size gang warfare, not practically force players to "bring the blob or don't bring it at all."
Tertiacero Caldari JESUS CHRIST IT'S A LION GET IN THE CAR WE FORM VOLTRON	Posted - 2011.01.23 23:47:00 - [163] The lag actually wasn't that bad considering how many people were in system and how much **** was going on at once. All you mission bears who are whining are probably the same ones who say 'lol we deal with lag in highsec too' everytime a major fleet fight goes to hell. This was actually extremly managable compared to what the average 600 man fleet fight in 0.0 is anymore. Welcome to eve. It sucked, it's broken, but at least this gives me some faint glimmer of hope that CCP is once again moving in the correct direction.
Orkasm Navy of Xoc Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2011.01.23 23:51:00 - [164] Im here laughin my ass off at all the empire pubbies moaning about guns not cycling, I Distinctly remember you people saying lag isnt a problem.
Disteeler Perkone	Posted - 2011.01.23 23:51:00 - [165] For those that were already at Yulai before all started it wasn't that bad, some 4-5 seconds for actions to execute for the duration of all the event, and for like 5 minutes some worse lag, but not bad. we where like 1700 or so, but then all the people that tried to join after the event started, got stuck in the gates. It's like the proxy servers that connected to Yulai got hammered, but inside Yulai, things were not that bad (well, you got to turn off brackets and regular stuff). I enjoyed it, mostly because the rp event in itself, not because all the combat. Also, incursions will indeed be spread all over eve spanning whole constellations, if I'm correct.
Kengutsi Akira	Posted - 2011.01.23 23:51:00 - [166] Originally by: Sniperdoc Edited by: Sniperdoc on 23/01/2011 23:19:30 Lagged a bit??? Are you high? I mashed Warp to Gate for literally 15 minutes without a response. I spent over a half hour just following the slave ship. I couldn't stop the ship, I couldn't fire, I couldn't do ANYTHING! That's not "minimal modal lag". That was just hosed. You dont understand, its so much worse in 0.0 and we revel in it there you should revel in it here lol lol lol lol
Zhim'Fufu	Posted - 2011.01.23 23:51:00 - [167] Originally by: Sky Orcagna Incursion in its current form appears to have been designed from the ground up to practically guarantee a gigantic blob and unplayable lag. The NPC opponents are so tough and the situation so unpredictable that there was never any doubt whatsoever how this was going to turn out. Why? This appears to just be bad design at this point. Incursions are spread out across an entire constellation with each system having lots and lots of sites. The maximum ships you will ever need in a gang are around 50 or so for the largest sites so I simply don't see any meaningful lag happening especially if ccp maps the incursions systems to the new super nodes.
Captain Mohawk Dinklepants	Posted - 2011.01.23 23:52:00 - [168] ITT 0.0 "Hardcore" gamers stick to their "go back to Hello Kitty" guns, and still come out looking like arsehats. 60,000+ connected to the server, and lag was that tolerable? I'll take it.
Zhim'Fufu	Posted - 2011.01.23 23:55:00 - [169] Originally by: Captain Mohawk Dinklepants ITT 0.0 "Hardcore" gamers stick to their "go back to Hello Kitty" guns, and still come out looking like arsehats. 60,000+ connected to the server, and lag was that tolerable? I'll take it. Well its not that often we can get the carebears to actually experience what its like trying to play the nullsec game. And when we do its on a node that actually worked pretty damn well so now the carebears are still clueless.
Vladimir Ilych Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2011.01.23 23:57:00 - [170] Edited by: Vladimir Ilych on 23/01/2011 23:58:00 Originally by: Orkasm Im here laughin my ass off at all the empire pubbies moaning about guns not cycling, I Distinctly remember you people saying lag isnt a problem. "You people" Who? Something of a massive generalization. Are all you hard as nails 0.0 "lag is my g1mp" players all the same?
Kengutsi Akira	Posted - 2011.01.23 23:59:00 - [171] Edited by: Kengutsi Akira on 24/01/2011 00:00:05 Originally by: Zhim'Fufu Welp don't come next time so you don't have to 'suffer' so much. Hey, thats a good idea. noone go.
Orkasm Navy of Xoc Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2011.01.23 23:59:00 - [172] Originally by: Vladimir Ilych Edited by: Vladimir Ilych on 23/01/2011 23:58:00 Originally by: Orkasm Im here laughin my ass off at all the empire pubbies moaning about guns not cycling, I Distinctly remember you people saying lag isnt a problem. "You people" Who? Something of a massive generalization. Are all you hard as nails 0.0 "lag is my g1mp" players all the same? You People; 'Empire Dwelling, Jita Living, Pubbies'
Zhim'Fufu	Posted - 2011.01.24 00:00:00 - [173] Edited by: Zhim''Fufu on 24/01/2011 00:01:13 Originally by: Vladimir Ilych Edited by: Vladimir Ilych on 23/01/2011 23:58:00 Originally by: Orkasm Im here laughin my ass off at all the empire pubbies moaning about guns not cycling, I Distinctly remember you people saying lag isnt a problem. "You people" Who? Something of a massive generalization. Are all you hard as nails 0.0 "lag is my g1mp" players all the same? Well sorry if we are arrogant because we can figure out how to make even unplayable situations playable but 'you guys' shed buckets of tears over your drones misbehaving and a bit of jump lag. Originally by: Kengutsi Akira Originally by: Zhim'Fufu Welp don't come next time so you don't have to 'suffer' so much. Hey, thats a good idea. noone go. Oh there will be plenty of people going. Just if you are a whinger stay home is all I am saying to save yourself the emotional turmoil.
Vladimir Ilych Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2011.01.24 00:01:00 - [174] Didn't answer the question..
Kengutsi Akira	Posted - 2011.01.24 00:03:00 - [175] Edited by: Kengutsi Akira on 24/01/2011 00:04:21 Originally by: Zhim'Fufu Edited by: Zhim''Fufu on 24/01/2011 00:01:13 Originally by: Vladimir Ilych Edited by: Vladimir Ilych on 23/01/2011 23:58:00 Originally by: Orkasm Im here laughin my ass off at all the empire pubbies moaning about guns not cycling, I Distinctly remember you people saying lag isnt a problem. "You people" Who? Something of a massive generalization. Are all you hard as nails 0.0 "lag is my g1mp" players all the same? Well sorry if we are arrogant because we can figure out how to make even unplayable situations playable but 'you guys' shed buckets of tears over your drones misbehaving and a bit of jump lag. Originally by: Kengutsi Akira Originally by: Zhim'Fufu Welp don't come next time so you don't have to 'suffer' so much. Hey, thats a good idea. noone go. Oh there will be plenty of people going. Just if you are a whinger stay home is all I am saying to save yourself the emotional turmoil. Um... I wont lol I like lag free play. you have fun with your hour long wait.s im good :D As apparently, you enjoy staring at a screen for an hour plus doing nothing. More power to ya lol
Zhim'Fufu	Posted - 2011.01.24 00:03:00 - [176] Edited by: Zhim''Fufu on 24/01/2011 00:06:10 Originally by: Vladimir Ilych Didn't answer the question.. But it did. You simply don't get the answer. This is why you are a pubbie. Originally by: Kengutsi Akira Um... I wont lol I like lag free play. you have fun with your hour long wait.s im good :D I didn't have to wait an hour. I got into yulai in about 3 minutes max when it was at around 1500. Then went on to absolutely enjoy the very short activation delays and infinite rof weapons. Oh sorry you didn't inform yourself on how to succesfully play in a fleet fight situation. Adapt or die after all.(or lag)
Aunian Sunglass	Posted - 2011.01.24 00:04:00 - [177] Originally by: Vladimir Ilych Didn't answer the question.. They never do, there hard as nails from 0.0 lag fights
Vladimir Ilych Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2011.01.24 00:08:00 - [178] Originally by: Zhim'Fufu Originally by: Vladimir Ilych Didn't answer the question.. But it did. You simply don't get the answer. This is why you are a pubbie. I have done 0.0. When I started i wanted to get to the "end game". And I did it for a while. Lag there is like lag in Empire. Sucks balls either way. I don't get that you enjoy boasting about doing it...
Hu Evur	Posted - 2011.01.24 00:09:00 - [179] Originally by: Higgs Foton ALL HAIL KIM JONG LAU! I was in the NC fleet. My experiences were more positive. The lag wasn't that bad. I have seen far worse. I liked that you could fast-trigger your guns (i was in an Hellcat fit Abaddon) so i was blowing out salvo's every 3 seconds or so. Pretty nice. Can we haz that in normal fleetfights and pve as well? Dishing out 4000-5000 dps looks like fun. All in all i found this event to be pretty meh. The overacting in local was pretty bad. Fortunately the NC was there to provide with witty commands and words of praise of our beloved leader Vuk Lau, may his name be praised by many generations. I hope next time our brosefs from Goons and TEST also join in. They are even funnier when talking in local, though keeping up with reading tends to get hard after a while.. We amassed a fleet because TraderJohn said the system would effectively be 0.0 and that concord wouldn;t do anything hoping to create a tsunami of carebear tears for everyone to drown in. Our dissapointment was great when normal concord rules still aplied. We had a volunteer check this out. He will be reimbursed. Vuk Lau, our wise and just leader, loves his soldiers. Anyway, we shot some at the Sansha stuff, managed to secure all three revenant BPC's and went home again to bathe in our isk and technetium. Moderate fun was had. Make me barf. Looks like you swallowed too.
Zhim'Fufu	Posted - 2011.01.24 00:11:00 - [180] Originally by: Vladimir Ilych Originally by: Zhim'Fufu Originally by: Vladimir Ilych Didn't answer the question.. But it did. You simply don't get the answer. This is why you are a pubbie. I have done 0.0. When I started i wanted to get to the "end game". And I did it for a while. Lag there is like lag in Empire. Sucks balls either way. I don't get that you enjoy boasting about doing it... Again, this explains why you are a pubbie.
Kengutsi Akira	Posted - 2011.01.24 00:12:00 - [181] Originally by: Zhim'Fufu Originally by: Vladimir Ilych Originally by: Zhim'Fufu Originally by: Vladimir Ilych Didn't answer the question.. But it did. You simply don't get the answer. This is why you are a pubbie. I have done 0.0. When I started i wanted to get to the "end game". And I did it for a while. Lag there is like lag in Empire. Sucks balls either way. I don't get that you enjoy boasting about doing it... Again, this explains why you are a pubbie. See, its guys like this that call me a troll I love laughing at
Vladimir Ilych Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2011.01.24 00:13:00 - [182] Originally by: Zhim'Fufu Originally by: Vladimir Ilych Originally by: Zhim'Fufu Originally by: Vladimir Ilych Didn't answer the question.. But it did. You simply don't get the answer. This is why you are a pubbie. I have done 0.0. When I started i wanted to get to the "end game". And I did it for a while. Lag there is like lag in Empire. Sucks balls either way. I don't get that you enjoy boasting about doing it... Again, this explains why you are a pubbie. Explain it to me then?
Siigari Kitawa Gallente Senex Legio Get Off My Lawn	Posted - 2011.01.24 00:13:00 - [183] WTB whatever faction toys were dropped, send me a message with a legit link to the item. www.siigarikitawa.com ò www.eohpoker.com ò Buy a GTC
Iraherag	Posted - 2011.01.24 00:13:00 - [184] Originally by: Zhim'Fufu Originally by: Vladimir Ilych Originally by: Zhim'Fufu But it did. You simply don't get the answer. This is why you are a pubbie. I have done 0.0. When I started i wanted to get to the "end game". And I did it for a while. Lag there is like lag in Empire. Sucks balls either way. I don't get that you enjoy boasting about doing it... Again, this explains why you are a pubbie. Amazing argumentation. You must have come in contact with a book somehow.
Zhim'Fufu	Posted - 2011.01.24 00:13:00 - [185] Originally by: Kengutsi Akira See, its guys like this that call me a troll I love laughing at Stop talking to yourself in the mirror then?
Mel Lifera Gallente Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2011.01.24 00:14:00 - [186] Originally by: Higgs Foton All in all i found this event to be pretty meh. The overacting in local was pretty bad. lol You are aware that the live Sansha events are put on explicitly for the role-players, right? What did you expect?
Kengutsi Akira	Posted - 2011.01.24 00:15:00 - [187] Originally by: Zhim'Fufu Originally by: Kengutsi Akira See, its guys like this that call me a troll I love laughing at Stop talking to yourself in the mirror then? Thank you for proving my point yet again
Zhim'Fufu	Posted - 2011.01.24 00:19:00 - [188] Originally by: Vladimir Ilych Explain it to me then? It's like love. It can't be explained it has to be experienced and conquered. Originally by: Iraherag Amazing argumentation. You must have come in contact with a book somehow. Better than the subscription to mad magazine you use for your normal forum etiquette posting. Your post history looks like a massive acting out against ccp because the bad men violenced your boat at a camp. Originally by: Kengutsi Akira Originally by: Zhim'Fufu Originally by: Kengutsi Akira See, its guys like this that call me a troll I love laughing at Stop talking to yourself in the mirror then? Thank you for proving my point yet again The point that you are a pubbie and don't even know what a pubbie is? Your welcome mate anytime. Keep em comin guys I have all night.
Vuk Lau	Posted - 2011.01.24 00:20:00 - [189] Sorry guys for fooling you into this but CCP was unhappy with recent turnouts to the Mass Tests on Sisi so they asked me to bring 1500+ to empire system so they can properly test the Incursion code4. I couldnt deny that offer, especially cause CCP is blackmailing me to dance as they play after they caught me red handed with trillions of dirty isk on my accounts. The good thing is that test was complete success and imba looters of NC got me 2 Revenant BPCs. Cheers.
Eclorc	Posted - 2011.01.24 00:21:00 - [190] re: this.. "its not that often we can get the carebears to actually experience what its like trying to play the nullsec game" and this.. "we can figure out how to make even unplayable situations playable " Kudos to the nulsec-ers for managing to beat it as well as you obviously do, indeed the lag in Yulai was better than other live events invasions I can think of including node and whole-cluster crashes, but don't u see something even slightly wrong with accepting or defending this playably-unplayable situation in the first place? Answers to it are obviously complex and there's likely no one solution to it all, but spreading the load out from one focal system might be a start, including sov warfare. p.s. ever played Frontlines?
Vladimir Ilych Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2011.01.24 00:21:00 - [191] Edited by: Vladimir Ilych on 24/01/2011 00:21:59 Originally by: Zhim'Fufu Originally by: Vladimir Ilych Explain it to me then? It's like love. It can't be explained it has to be experienced and conquered. Originally by: Iraherag Amazing argumentation. You must have come in contact with a book somehow. Better than the subscription to mad magazine you use for your normal forum etiquette posting. Your post history looks like a massive acting out against ccp because the bad men violenced your boat at a camp. Originally by: Kengutsi Akira Originally by: Zhim'Fufu Originally by: Kengutsi Akira See, its guys like this that call me a troll I love laughing at Stop talking to yourself in the mirror then? Unable to answer the question. You have no answer. Thank you for proving my point yet again The point that you are a pubbie and don't even know what a pubbie is? Your welcome mate anytime. Keep em comin guys I have all night. Unable to answer the question. You have no answer.
Zhim'Fufu	Posted - 2011.01.24 00:23:00 - [192] Originally by: Vladimir Ilych Unable to answer the question. You have no answer. Unable to understand the answer given. You have no intellect.
Vladimir Ilych Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2011.01.24 00:24:00 - [193] Originally by: Zhim'Fufu Originally by: Vladimir Ilych Unable to answer the question. You have no answer. Unable to understand the answer given. You have no intellect. Oh I understand what you are saying. You seem unwilling to reply in normal terms.
Indeterminacy THORN Syndicate Controlled Chaos	Posted - 2011.01.24 00:27:00 - [194] Originally by: Kai Lae and of course the infinite ROF gun problem. What's been happening recently is that with the new patch, the guns under heavy lag don't autorepeat, but fire every time you click on them, regardless of their ROF. I went through an entire autocannon clip in about 10 seconds, with the only delay being what the server could register. This is certian to be exploited in any large scale engagement and should be fixed asap by CCP. Also fix the gang bonuses you also managed to break. How CCP breaks things that they're not even working on in a patch is beyond me but it's happened again. Did the same but with artillery :P Honestly it was quite boring and if not for the Rev. BPCs it wouldn't be worth it.
Iraherag	Posted - 2011.01.24 00:27:00 - [195] Originally by: Zhim'Fufu Originally by: Vladimir Ilych Explain it to me then? It's like love. It can't be explained it has to be experienced and conquered. Originally by: Iraherag Amazing argumentation. You must have come in contact with a book somehow. Better than the subscription to mad magazine you use for your normal forum etiquette posting. Your post history looks like a massive acting out against ccp because the bad men violenced your boat at a camp. I see, if you run out of facts you resort to one of the two stereotypes you learned so far. Well, I'm glad to see that predictability is one of your traits.
Zhim'Fufu	Posted - 2011.01.24 00:27:00 - [196] Originally by: Vladimir Ilych Originally by: Zhim'Fufu Originally by: Vladimir Ilych Unable to answer the question. You have no answer. Unable to understand the answer given. You have no intellect. Oh I understand what you are saying. You seem unwilling to reply in normal terms. Do you talk in a normal way to those you perceive as lower than you?(ie pubbies) Thought not. Originally by: Vuk Lau Sorry guys for fooling you into this but CCP was unhappy with recent turnouts to the Mass Tests on Sisi so they asked me to bring 1500+ to empire system so they can properly test the Incursion code4. I couldnt deny that offer, especially cause CCP is blackmailing me to dance as they play after they caught me red handed with trillions of dirty isk on my accounts. lol! Originally by: Vuk Lau The good thing is that test was complete success and imba looters of NC got me 2 Revenant BPCs. Cheers. Three were mentioned earlier. Someone is holding out on you.
Vladimir Ilych Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2011.01.24 00:31:00 - [197] Originally by: Zhim'Fufu Edited by: Zhim''Fufu on 24/01/2011 00:28:22 Originally by: Vladimir Ilych Originally by: Zhim'Fufu Originally by: Vladimir Ilych Unable to answer the question. You have no answer. Unable to understand the answer given. You have no intellect. Oh I understand what you are saying. You seem unwilling to reply in normal terms. Do you talk in a normal way to those you perceive as lower than you?(ie pubbies) Thought not. Like most things it depends on who I am speaking to. But I have formed my opinion of you.
Iraherag	Posted - 2011.01.24 00:34:00 - [198] Edited by: Iraherag on 24/01/2011 00:35:45 Originally by: Zhim'Fufu Originally by: Iraherag I see, if you run out of facts you resort to one of the two stereotypes you learned so far. Well, I'm glad to see that predictability is one of your traits. Hard to have fancy replies when the content you are given to work with is so bland. Oh my mistake. I thought you were really good at making the best of a bad situation. I guess it only applies to situations where you can click buttons or press keys. Have you ever noticed that you have less problems with multiple-choice questions? Or do you find them all just equally hard? Quote: Besides what does any of this butthurt posting you guys are doing have to do with the topic of yulai being one of the best fleet fight experiences so far in the game as far as lag is concerned? If you have some personal beef just send me an angry evemail like the rest of the pubbies do. Interesting question. Why did you start with the name-calling? Too much personal beef?
Jovan Geldon Gallente Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire	Posted - 2011.01.24 00:37:00 - [199] RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
Zhim'Fufu	Posted - 2011.01.24 00:40:00 - [200] Edited by: Zhim''Fufu on 24/01/2011 00:40:38 Originally by: Iraherag Originally by: Zhim'FuFu Besides what does any of this butthurt posting you guys are doing have to do with the topic of yulai being one of the best fleet fight experiences so far in the game as far as lag is concerned? If you have some personal beef just send me an angry evemail like the rest of the pubbies do. Interesting question. Why did you start with the name-calling? Too much personal beef? Pubbie is an accepted descriptive term for a certain kind of eve player. So its not name calling its simply a way to describe a kind of mentality to the people that get it. Get it? Originally by: Jovan Geldon RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE Wouldn't have it any other way tbh.
DED Capsuleer DED Drug Enforcement Department	Posted - 2011.01.24 00:48:00 - [201] I think we need to increase the CSPA charge on the forums. I'll get right on it...
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Hu Evur	Posted - 2011.01.24 01:00:00 - [203] Originally by: Vuk Lau Sorry guys for fooling you into this but CCP was unhappy with recent turnouts to the Mass Tests on Sisi so T20 asked me to bring 1500+ to empire system so they can properly test the Incursion code4. I couldnt deny that offer, especially cause CCP is blackmailing me to dance as they play after they gave me red handed trillions of dirty isk through Technetium moon goo rebalancing on my accounts. The good thing is that test was complete success and imba looters of CCP got me 2 Revenant BPCs. Cheers. fixed
TheNorthwind	Posted - 2011.01.24 01:12:00 - [204] Originally by: Zhim'Fufu You are still missing the point. Yulai survived 1700 pew pewing players and only lagged a bit and on top of it all the node didn't die. This is unheard of in eve for such a massive fight. QFT. It wasn't smooth, it wasn't a great player experience but it stayed up throughout, I kept flying around and shooting things occasionally, and the event actually ran its course without "spacial disruption". Yet all people can do is cry about the negatives. If CCP want to claim it as a triumph or a total success, that's BS too but some people want the moon on a stick.
Kengutsi Akira	Posted - 2011.01.24 01:30:00 - [205] Guess this is the CCP workaround to the BoB/Goon tactic of swarming the node till it crashes and having a client open to log in before the defenders do to murder them while theyre logging in Only a couple years late, but still
Zed Ligis Gallente Inquest	Posted - 2011.01.24 01:54:00 - [206] The event might have been a milestone in number of players in one system but it was not FUN for lots of people who turned out. It was a bad game design decision. I think most of us are looking for CCP to acknowledge this and reply with a solution. I hope they have learned what not to do and will make it more fun for more people next time. A solution would be to spread each event out over 10+ systems, preferably 20 jumps apart. This way most people will have an event close by and it will spreed the number of players per instance. But congrats to the team for having the server not crash! Now fix the gameplay please.
M3ta7h3ad Caldari Phrixus Mot	Posted - 2011.01.24 01:58:00 - [207] Edited by: M3ta7h3ad on 24/01/2011 01:58:58 It was great. While things were not instantaneous (performance took the biggest nosedive after 1000 logged in) it was playable. Set guns to non-repeat Turned off brackets and set overview only to show sansha ships Played. Yes launchers were locked on however dropping target lock would clear that. Relocking target was not lagged at all, damage notifications operated as expected and approach/orbit worked if you gave it 5 seconds or so to pick up the command. Only thing I found bugged was chat. What was amusing was CCP YOKAI logging in at 800 users exclaiming "800 omGZ!" or something to that effect when 5 minutes before we were hitting 1700+. ----- If you kill all the wolves, your gonna end up with a crapload of bunnies, and by bunnies I mean stupid people
Zhim'Fufu	Posted - 2011.01.24 02:03:00 - [208] Originally by: Zed Ligis The event might have been a milestone in number of players in one system but it was not FUN for lots of people who turned out. It was a bad game design decision. I think most of us are looking for CCP to acknowledge this and reply with a solution. I hope they have learned what not to do and will make it more fun for more people next time. The live events have never been fun even when they didn't get swarmed by hoards of players. All they have ever been is an excuse to post what for all intents and purposes is an npc capital ship kill on your killmail board. If you look deeper they have all been stealth technology tests for tweaking the servers out to finally(really finally not just Soon finally) kill the lag beast in our time. Originally by: Zed Ligis A solution would be to spread each event out over 10+ systems, preferably 20 jumps apart. This way most people will have an event close by and it will spreed the number of players per instance. But congrats to the team for having the server not crash! Now fix the gameplay please. Hrmm, sounds like Incursions to me.
insanebe Caldari draketrain	Posted - 2011.01.24 02:15:00 - [209] i hope you got your tools out for your stess tests :p
Zed Ligis Gallente Inquest	Posted - 2011.01.24 02:15:00 - [210] Edited by: Zed Ligis on 24/01/2011 02:17:10 Originally by: Zhim'Fufu The live events have never been fun even when they didn't get swarmed by hoards of players. All they have ever been is an excuse to post what for all intents and purposes is an npc capital ship kill on your killmail board. If you look deeper they have all been stealth technology tests for tweaking the servers out to finally(really finally not just Soon finally) kill the lag beast in our time. That would be good to have even minimal lag. But to do this on purpose, running a server stress test... makes it less of a game and more of a tech demo. It should have been advertised as such. Originally by: Zhim'Fufu Hrmm, sounds like Incursions to me. I thought this was part of the Incursion... If it was not and the real Incursion is spreed out more, it should prove to be more fun for more people. I look forward to them.
Kai Lae Gallente Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2011.01.24 02:40:00 - [211] Originally by: Zed Ligis I thought this was part of the Incursion... If it was not and the real Incursion is spreed out more, it should prove to be more fun for more people. I look forward to them. This was a live event. Incursions don't have real people on the other side of the guns. Then again, the CCP event staff are so horrible at fighting perhaps it will be an improvement.
Zhim'Fufu	Posted - 2011.01.24 02:51:00 - [212] Originally by: Zed Ligis Edited by: Zed Ligis on 24/01/2011 02:17:10 Originally by: Zhim'Fufu The live events have never been fun even when they didn't get swarmed by hoards of players. All they have ever been is an excuse to post what for all intents and purposes is an npc capital ship kill on your killmail board. If you look deeper they have all been stealth technology tests for tweaking the servers out to finally(really finally not just Soon finally) kill the lag beast in our time. That would be good to have even minimal lag. But to do this on purpose, running a server stress test... makes it less of a game and more of a tech demo. It should have been advertised as such. Thats the funny thing. This was totally player organized. CCP didn't do anything at all to spread the word and only had a couple of bored interns in some ships for people to shoot and the devs running whatever test they do during such times. Just like they do with fleet fights that they are notified about so don't think it was only for this event. Besides I'm sure ccp was just as suprised at the turnout as anyone else if their comments in local were any indication.
Mel Lifera Gallente Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2011.01.24 02:57:00 - [213] Edited by: Mel Lifera on 24/01/2011 03:04:25 Edited by: Mel Lifera on 24/01/2011 03:02:05 Edited by: Mel Lifera on 24/01/2011 02:59:24 Originally by: Zed Ligis Edited by: Zed Ligis on 24/01/2011 02:17:10 Originally by: Zhim'Fufu The live events have never been fun even when they didn't get swarmed by hoards of players. All they have ever been is an excuse to post what for all intents and purposes is an npc capital ship kill on your killmail board. If you look deeper they have all been stealth technology tests for tweaking the servers out to finally(really finally not just Soon finally) kill the lag beast in our time. That would be good to have even minimal lag. But to do this on purpose, running a server stress test... makes it less of a game and more of a tech demo. It should have been advertised as such. No, for the exact reason you would've wanted it advertised as such: because then nobody would've attended, and CCP wouldn't have gotten the data they needed. People do not hesitate to complain about lag but usually can't be bothered to help CCP in their attempts to fight it. This way CCP get their data, some lucky players get BPCs, low sec pirates get a swarm of dozens of carebears to shoot at (which they never stop crying for), and role-players got some continuity ** to setup the actual Incursions. Not bad for a day's work I should think. Also: you nullseccers who handwave the lag in Yulai under 1700 players as 'nothing' compared to your fleet fights? Have fun out there, because you can keep that *. I won't be moving to 0.0 unless there's literally nothing* else in the game that I haven't done yet.
Doddy Burning Vendetta	Posted - 2011.01.24 03:06:00 - [214] Originally by: Zhim'Fufu Pubbie is an accepted descriptive term for a certain kind of eve player. So its not name calling its simply a way to describe a kind of mentality to the people that get it. It means not a true goon, which applies to, well everyone who isn't true goon. There are probably only a few hundred true goons in eve, so the other 200k plus players are all pubbies.
Zhim'Fufu	Posted - 2011.01.24 03:10:00 - [215] Originally by: Mel Lifera Also: you nullseccers who handwave the lag in Yulai under 1700 players as 'nothing' compared to your fleet fights? Have fun out there, because you can keep that ***. I won't be moving to 0.0 unless there's literally nothing* else in the game that I haven't done yet. To be fair to the way you play in nullsec the 'soul crushing lag' of fleet fights isn't really an everyday thing. The majority of the time you are out on much smaller roams or exploring or the ton of other things you do out there. And if the guys having the fleet fights tell ccp ahead of time then their fight doesn't even effect the rest of nullsec at all so the net is that the majority of the time its about as lag free as high sec. But if you don't like the lag of big huge fleet battles then call in sick to eve that day and go mission in empire with an alt.
SavageBastard GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.01.24 04:12:00 - [216] Originally by: Zhim'Fufu Originally by: Mel Lifera Also: you nullseccers who handwave the lag in Yulai under 1700 players as 'nothing' compared to your fleet fights? Have fun out there, because you can keep that ***. I won't be moving to 0.0 unless there's literally nothing* else in the game that I haven't done yet. To be fair to the way you play in nullsec the 'soul crushing lag' of fleet fights isn't really an everyday thing. The majority of the time you are out on much smaller roams or exploring or the ton of other things you do out there. And if the guys having the fleet fights tell ccp ahead of time then their fight doesn't even effect the rest of nullsec at all so the net is that the majority of the time its about as lag free as high sec. But if you don't like the lag of big huge fleet battles then call in sick to eve that day and go mission in empire with an alt. Spoken like a man who has ridden the wave of failure cascade back to empire more than once.
Gareth Ultari	Posted - 2011.01.24 04:18:00 - [217] ....why you guys don't setup a gating system that prevents jumps after XXX number of players, i have no idea... atleast preserve the game for those who got in. sure, there may be a 'line' to get in the system. but atleast it is something worth going to.
Zhim'Fufu	Posted - 2011.01.24 04:21:00 - [218] Originally by: SavageBastard Originally by: Zhim'Fufu Originally by: Mel Lifera Also: you nullseccers who handwave the lag in Yulai under 1700 players as 'nothing' compared to your fleet fights? Have fun out there, because you can keep that ***. I won't be moving to 0.0 unless there's literally nothing* else in the game that I haven't done yet. To be fair to the way you play in nullsec the 'soul crushing lag' of fleet fights isn't really an everyday thing. The majority of the time you are out on much smaller roams or exploring or the ton of other things you do out there. And if the guys having the fleet fights tell ccp ahead of time then their fight doesn't even effect the rest of nullsec at all so the net is that the majority of the time its about as lag free as high sec. But if you don't like the lag of big huge fleet battles then call in sick to eve that day and go mission in empire with an alt. Spoken like a man who has ridden the wave of failure cascade back to empire more than once. Hows delve doing these days mate?
Mel Lifera Gallente Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2011.01.24 05:04:00 - [219] Edited by: Mel Lifera on 24/01/2011 05:05:16 Originally by: SavageBastard Spoken like a man who has ridden the wave of failure cascade back to empire more than once. I've personally never had a bad experience in 0.0; my corp does not tend to operate out there. I've been there on my own once or twice to visit old friends and such and didn't have trouble (but it was always in covops and I don't think I ever turned the cloak off). My post was based purely on the comments of yon brave men and their proud lagfests.
Mel Lifera Gallente Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2011.01.24 05:07:00 - [220] Originally by: Gareth Ultari ....why you guys don't setup a gating system that prevents jumps after XXX number of players, i have no idea... atleast preserve the game for those who got in. sure, there may be a 'line' to get in the system. but atleast it is something worth going to. Creates a problem when people want to log into a full system. They're paying customers - can't just say "whelp, sorry dude - out of luck until someone decides to leave".
Kwashi Gallente	Posted - 2011.01.24 05:31:00 - [221] Edited by: Kwashi on 24/01/2011 05:31:35 Originally by: Sky Orcagna Honestly, CCP needs to acknowledge that lag is a serious technological problem and stop trying to overcome it with a brute force approach. A far more elegant solution would be to design new features that encourage and reward small-medium-size gang warfare, not practically force players to "bring the blob or don't bring it at all." For what it's worth, wormspace mechanics have and still do work well for small gang warfare. CCP should just put the incursions in there! cough
Schalac Caldari Apocalypse Reign	Posted - 2011.01.24 05:44:00 - [222] Who has time to show up to a live event when the Steelers are winning their way to the Superbowl? SCHALAC HAS SPOKEN
Soldarius Caldari Northstar Cabal R.A.G.E	Posted - 2011.01.24 05:47:00 - [223] Congrats to bff Morsus Mihi for getting those BPCs. Looking forward to lighting your cynos. To all you carebear pubbies, quit crying about how much it sucked. Get a job, learn a little about computers other than how to talk 1337, buy yourself some decent hardware, and put together a rig that can do what you want it to do, instead of settling for some one-size fits-all crap-in-a-box homo-genized SUX5000. To all of you who can't be bothered to read and want the entire eve experience spoon-fed to your fat face, read up. Incursions will be spread out over an entire constellation. It won't be anything like what went down in Yulai. To CCP, congrats on getting all that pew pew working in one system, even if it was a lag-fest for some lazy and/or uninformed failboats. Originally by: CCP Shadow ...I cannot guarantee (my) sobriety or decency.
Baneken Gallente School of the Unseen	Posted - 2011.01.24 06:13:00 - [224] So this is why I got disconnected bout 4 times in 1/2 an hour ? I figured there was something going on in the null even if 0.0 nodes shouldn't be affecting high sec any more. After the 4th disconnect I decided I was lucky enough to get my crap hauled where I needed it to be and logged out. http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sigs.html
Memoocan	Posted - 2011.01.24 06:29:00 - [225] Edited by: Memoocan on 24/01/2011 06:33:59 Originally by: Kwashi Edited by: Kwashi on 24/01/2011 05:31:35 Originally by: Sky Orcagna Honestly, CCP needs to acknowledge that lag is a serious technological problem and stop trying to overcome it with a brute force approach. A far more elegant solution would be to design new features that encourage and reward small-medium-size gang warfare, not practically force players to "bring the blob or don't bring it at all." For what it's worth, wormspace mechanics have and still do work well for small gang warfare. CCP should just put the incursions in there! cough This. Wspace is the true endgame and home to real small gang warfare. Come on in, the water is fine
Batolemaeus Caldari Free-Space-Ranger Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2011.01.24 07:01:00 - [226] Originally by: Soldarius To all you carebear pubbies, quit crying about how much it sucked. Get a job, learn a little about computers other than how to talk 1337, buy yourself some decent hardware, and put together a rig that can do what you want it to do, instead of settling for some one-size fits-all crap-in-a-box homo-genized SUX5000. You should really refresh your knowledge on how computers work, because quite honestly, it doesn't look like you have a clue. Tip: Eve is not a distributed computing platform, your own pc does not have any impact on lag whatsoever.
Zhim'Fufu	Posted - 2011.01.24 07:13:00 - [227] Originally by: Batolemaeus Originally by: Soldarius To all you carebear pubbies, quit crying about how much it sucked. Get a job, learn a little about computers other than how to talk 1337, buy yourself some decent hardware, and put together a rig that can do what you want it to do, instead of settling for some one-size fits-all crap-in-a-box homo-genized SUX5000. You should really refresh your knowledge on how computers work, because quite honestly, it doesn't look like you have a clue. Tip: Eve is not a distributed computing platform, your own pc does not have any impact on lag whatsoever. I think he was talking more about client side lag which is graphical in nature and not server related. If your only getting 3fps then nothing is going to work very well as you client won't be able to process your clicks consistantly or it simply crashes.
flapie 2 Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2011.01.24 10:09:00 - [228] Its really sad to see how manny people have grown costum to server lags, and then thinking they know it all cause they been in a few fleet fights. Even more stupid then the fact that loads of people there dint get a good experience out of the event. But atleast now i can see it, and laugh about those silly ******s trolling what they call carebears. I had to miss out on the local trolls cause my chat was gone due to this so called 'Event', this thread is good replacement for it tho. 3 cheers for forum PvP On a side note, if CCP really wants to lag test TQ's High-Sec areas, make a proper lag test event and im sure there wil be even more people there to help crash the 'Super Node'
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2011.01.24 10:20:00 - [229] Yes, the lag was bad, but it was nowhere as bad for me as it had been in Ashab a few nights previously when there were only about 400 people shooting a Revenant. So at least CCP remembered to reinforce the node this time. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2011.01.24 10:25:00 - [230] Originally by: Mel Lifera Creates a problem when people want to log into a full system. They're paying customers - can't just say "whelp, sorry dude - out of luck until someone decides to leave". Sure they can. Being a paying customer doesn't buy you any rights beyond what the developer wants to give you, and if they choose to start setting pop limits, then that'll be what those paying customers are paying for. In fact, "being a paying customer" is probably the the most nonsensical and irrelevant argument for (or against)à wellà anythingà ever. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
Serge Bastana Gallente GWA Corp	Posted - 2011.01.24 10:37:00 - [231] I admit, a fair bit of my lag was down to my current laptop not being up to the job, but I know that which is why I'm currently sitting with a near built desktop under my desk just waiting for the correct i5 processor to fit the motherboard so I can play the game with with less client side problems. ------------------------------------------------ Quafe is people!
Illwill Bill Noxious Intention	Posted - 2011.01.24 10:49:00 - [232] Originally by: DED Capsuleer I think we need to increase the CSPA charge on the forums. I'll get right on it... This was the best suggestion I have read in a long time! Please make a suggestion in the assembly. Originally by: CCP Navigator Great story but you probably want this in CAOD so feel free to post there with your main.
RAW23	Posted - 2011.01.24 11:07:00 - [233] Originally by: Mel Lifera Quote: That would be good to have even minimal lag. But to do this on purpose, running a server stress test... makes it less of a game and more of a tech demo. It should have been advertised as such. No, for the exact reason you would've wanted it advertised as such: because then nobody would've attended, and CCP wouldn't have gotten the data they needed. People do not hesitate to complain about lag but usually can't be bothered to help CCP in their attempts to fight it. I pay CCP to play their game. Doesn't that count as helping them develop their game?
Jelek Coro Erase Rewind	Posted - 2011.01.24 11:12:00 - [234] Originally by: Mutant Caldari I love all of the highsec carebears whining about the lag that just about every 0.0 blob vs blob fest gets at around 700 now. Needs repeating. High sec bears complaining about lag :)
flapie 2 Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2011.01.24 11:22:00 - [235] Originally by: Jelek Coro Originally by: Mutant Caldari I love all of the highsec carebears whining about the lag that just about every 0.0 blob vs blob fest gets at around 700 now. Needs repeating. High sec bears complaining about lag :) Ooooowwwww another i know it all fleet fighter.
Khanh'rhh Caldari Chaos Theory Exploration	Posted - 2011.01.24 11:40:00 - [236] Well I was there, and I loved it. Yeah, it was laggy, but it mostly worked (weird glitches aside). Lets look at this more closely ... there were 1700 in local. Around 300-500 at each site. That it was mostly playable shows the servers could handle 600-800 in system pretty well, with a few glitches. When it dropped to 500 or so, there were plenty of players getting their jet-can PVP on with no issues. This goes against everything I've heard about 0.0 blob warfare and makes me optimistic for the future of the servers If CCP want anymore testing, I'll be there. As for whether this is "the way to do it" or not, I say do it. Honestly, who would turn up if CCP said "Erm, right ... please everyone go here and erm, mill around a bit. KTHXBAI" That hundreds of players were cycling modules / drones / etc at mostly single targets lets CCP measure performance more accurately, and improve & tweak the underlying algorithms. Whiners will only see the negative side of things, that's a given. But a lot of those who turned up had fun. Oh and to all the "OMG Incursion sux!" people - look at the site info. They're all designed for small-gang completion, not blobs. I have every confidence this will evolve into a great game feature. Also - funny effects: - That I could fire weps as fast as I could press F1. I calculated my peak at 10,000 dps before fear of RSI got me - I launched 5 drones ... and 20 appeared on grid controllable. They were all "fighting" for a while .. but, I never saw them again. (Anyone interested in their funeral arrangements, PM me) - No matter what I did, my cap held at 100% - I got bumped and got my Mael up to 4k/s How is that not fun?
Mort Eveson Gallente Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative	Posted - 2011.01.24 12:13:00 - [237] Just checking in to say I was there and I had fun! High end machine, was getting good FPS but yeah problems with cycling weapons, launching drones and keeping range due to lag. However there were 1700 of us in there all activating lots of modules and launching drones, not to mention the NPCs. The people who I noticed having problems in our fleet were those who had to have more people on their overview (Fleet commander, scouts etc). Not CCPs fault that we all wanted to be there! I hope we get more live events after the incursions start, but am not too hopefull. "" Visit us on http://www.ilfcorp.com/
ovenproofjet Caldari Therapy. Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2011.01.24 12:29:00 - [238] Lol at all the carebears finding out what lag is.... If that was 0.0 everyone would've been shooting at you too
Centri Sixx	Posted - 2011.01.24 12:33:00 - [239] God, lol at the sheep 0.0ers. "We blob and turn gameplay into a sideshow pubbies-how dare you complain about the game being unplayable." Fact of the matter is nothing is really stopping a PVE event from being spread out among multiple systems, even if only one of the events is actually live. Come on CCP, design for redundancy.
Zhim'Fufu	Posted - 2011.01.24 12:35:00 - [240] Originally by: Centri Sixx God, lol at the sheep 0.0ers. "We blob and turn gameplay into a sideshow pubbies-how dare you complain about the game being unplayable." Fact of the matter is nothing is really stopping a PVE event from being spread out among multiple systems, even if only one of the events is actually live. Come on CCP, design for redundancy. So many people it seems have absolutely no clue about how the incursions are going to play out.
flapie 2 Gallente	Posted - 2011.01.24 12:39:00 - [241] Originally by: Centri Sixx God, lol at the sheep 0.0ers. Dont you mean parrots, the comment never really changes.
Ava Starfire Minmatar Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2011.01.24 13:30:00 - [242] Originally by: Zhim'Fufu Originally by: Vladimir Ilych Originally by: Zhim'Fufu Originally by: Vladimir Ilych Didn't answer the question.. But it did. You simply don't get the answer. This is why you are a pubbie. I have done 0.0. When I started i wanted to get to the "end game". And I did it for a while. Lag there is like lag in Empire. Sucks balls either way. I don't get that you enjoy boasting about doing it... Again, this explains why you are a pubbie. I admit, this does prove a strong statement about one of the quoted posters...
Horizonist Yulai Guard 2nd Fleet Yulai Federation	Posted - 2011.01.24 13:33:00 - [243] Originally by: Rodj Blake Yes, the lag was bad, but it was nowhere as bad for me as it had been in Ashab a few nights previously when there were only about 400 people shooting a Revenant. So at least CCP remembered to reinforce the node this time. This. I was in Ashab as well, it was a nightmare in comparison to Yulai, and a clear testimony to the difference reinforcing the node actually makes. CCP absolutely should keep working on the concept.
Riedle Minmatar Paradox Collective Black Legion.	Posted - 2011.01.24 13:33:00 - [244] Originally by: CCP Yokai Originally by: Tyke Orlieveit If you are stuck in the system, Log Out and Log in, and you seem to come back at the other side of the gate. Also, CCP Fail on Re-enforced mode. first mass event I've ever gone to and I am seriously, seriously disappoint. :( 10+ min weapon cycles? :( Sorry, node was re-enforced at downtime today and is on the biggest node. Just more players than this little system could take. For the first few incursions I would suggest having multiple systems have an incursion at the same time to split up the player base willing to go to an incursion so it will not get that high in any one system.
Horizonist Yulai Guard 2nd Fleet Yulai Federation	Posted - 2011.01.24 13:53:00 - [245] Originally by: Riedle Originally by: CCP Yokai Originally by: Tyke Orlieveit If you are stuck in the system, Log Out and Log in, and you seem to come back at the other side of the gate. Also, CCP Fail on Re-enforced mode. first mass event I've ever gone to and I am seriously, seriously disappoint. :( 10+ min weapon cycles? :( Sorry, node was re-enforced at downtime today and is on the biggest node. Just more players than this little system could take. For the first few incursions I would suggest having multiple systems have an incursion at the same time to split up the player base willing to go to an incursion so it will not get that high in any one system. Incursions will hit entire constellations at once, so there will always be several systems involved, from what I gather
Hadriel3 Future Corps	Posted - 2011.01.24 15:25:00 - [246] Originally by: Horizonist Originally by: Rodj Blake Yes, the lag was bad, but it was nowhere as bad for me as it had been in Ashab a few nights previously when there were only about 400 people shooting a Revenant. So at least CCP remembered to reinforce the node this time. This. I was in Ashab as well, it was a nightmare in comparison to Yulai, and a clear testimony to the difference reinforcing the node actually makes. CCP absolutely should keep working on the concept. Confirming that even though the ashab event peaked at less than 1/3 the number of the yulai event the grid where the sanshas showed up was completely unresponsive. I was using no effects, all graphics settings low, no brackets and even logged off my other client. After failing to target the revenant and sitting on grid unable to leave I was finally forced to logoffski in order to get away from the mess. On the plus side the rest of the system was totally fine, just the grid with the event on it was an unplayble nightmare, one of the most un-fun things I have ever done in eve. _____________________ Originally by: CCP Dropbear Honestly, I didn't expect that anyone would ask these questions or pick up on that...but you guys continue to surprise. Nicely done, Hadriel.
Samari Hekard	Posted - 2011.01.24 17:05:00 - [247] Originally by: M3ta7h3ad Relocking target was not lagged at all, damage notifications operated as expected and approach/orbit worked if you gave it 5 seconds or so to pick up the command. YOU might have had approach/orbit work. But with all effects off, no brackets, etc my flight commands such as orbit, approach, warp to, align, etc... did NOT function at all. It, no fooling around here, took over 15 minutes for a warp command to take effect. My align, approach, etc commands didn't even REGISTER! So... either you're a troll or you just got lucky. That was me following the Sansha Slaver ship at Planet V for over a 15 minutes, without being able to do SQUAT. Magically my warp command that I put in 15 minutes earlier took effect without me clicking anything. It was a terrible event... 15 minutes for a command to register??? Are you kidding me?
Horizonist Yulai Guard 2nd Fleet Yulai Federation	Posted - 2011.01.24 17:08:00 - [248] Originally by: Samari Hekard Originally by: M3ta7h3ad Relocking target was not lagged at all, damage notifications operated as expected and approach/orbit worked if you gave it 5 seconds or so to pick up the command. YOU might have had approach/orbit work. But with all effects off, no brackets, etc my flight commands such as orbit, approach, warp to, align, etc... did NOT function at all. It, no fooling around here, took over 15 minutes for a warp command to take effect. My align, approach, etc commands didn't even REGISTER! So... either you're a troll or you just got lucky. That was me following the Sansha Slaver ship at Planet V for over a 15 minutes, without being able to do SQUAT. Magically my warp command that I put in 15 minutes earlier took effect without me clicking anything. It was a terrible event... 15 minutes for a command to register??? Are you kidding me? Considering what it could have been if the node had not been reinforced, yes it was indeed great, and CCP deserve credit.
egegergergsdgedgege	Posted - 2011.01.24 17:17:00 - [249] CCP, have you ever thought of a complete redesign of the eve server code to make use of more than one cpu core per system? Maybe that would bring eve much further than some other not so shiny new feature...
Horizonist Yulai Guard 2nd Fleet Yulai Federation	Posted - 2011.01.24 17:26:00 - [250] Originally by: egegergergsdgedgege CCP, have you ever thought of a complete redesign of the eve server code to make use of more than one cpu core per system? Maybe that would bring eve much further than some other not so shiny new feature... This has always been an issue - they started out with the wrong platform to begin with. However, now we are 8 years down the pipe, a complete system rewrite would be a heavy, heavy undertaking considering how much CCP already have on their have on their hands. Still, if they did it, I would love to see them do it in something else than Python. Why not have a look at Erlang? Yes, it would take some time for them to train their staff, but any experienced programmer should not need long to get a good grip of advanced functional and concurrent programming. Erlang is a brilliant language, and has already proven its worth many times over in the context of massive, concurrent server environments, a picture Eve fits very nicely into.
Batolemaeus Caldari Free-Space-Ranger Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2011.01.24 17:34:00 - [251] Originally by: Zhim'Fufu Originally by: Batolemaeus Originally by: Soldarius To all you carebear pubbies, quit crying about how much it sucked. Get a job, learn a little about computers other than how to talk 1337, buy yourself some decent hardware, and put together a rig that can do what you want it to do, instead of settling for some one-size fits-all crap-in-a-box homo-genized SUX5000. You should really refresh your knowledge on how computers work, because quite honestly, it doesn't look like you have a clue. Tip: Eve is not a distributed computing platform, your own pc does not have any impact on lag whatsoever. I think he was talking more about client side lag which is graphical in nature and not server related. If your only getting 3fps then nothing is going to work very well as you client won't be able to process your clicks consistantly or it simply crashes. He said lag, not "low framerate". These two are not the same.
L A G Gallente Hysteria Nexus	Posted - 2011.01.24 17:47:00 - [252] Did anyone notice me there?
Shalask	Posted - 2011.01.24 19:54:00 - [253] doesnt killing those supers produce killmails? yet to see any from this yulai incursion
Hestia Mar	Posted - 2011.01.24 20:01:00 - [254] I was probably in the (almost) perfect location at the start of the Incursion in Yulai last night - I was sat 9along with about 10 other ships, but not in a fleet) 100km from the sun when the Sansha's arrived - I postede in Yulai chat as soon as it started but there was so much chatter I doubt many people noticed! The player blob was in large part organised the day before - one of the public channels I lurk in had sert up the rendezvous point in Alentene and they expected the incursion to happen in Yulai - their reckoning being something to do with the incursions happening in or around trade hubs. By the time I got to within weapons range the whole area was blobbed and although my weapons cycled, they never fired; but my orbit, align and then warp to commands all worked fine. I only really got stuck when I decided to warp out of the system and like many others got stuck at the Tourier gate.
Edward Sullen	Posted - 2011.01.25 01:04:00 - [255] If theyre hitting along trade routes, and the Jita cap has been increased...... Wonder how long... Man Id love to be a fly on the wall there lol

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