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Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2011.01.27 01:03:00 - [1] SANSHA INCURSION VESSELS SHOULD TRY TO POD YOU. _ Make ISK\|\|Build\|\|React\|\|1k papercuts _
Kruullien	Posted - 2011.01.27 01:04:00 - [2] ...AND GATE CAMPS
Steve Thomas Minmatar	Posted - 2011.01.27 01:05:00 - [3] Originally by: Kruullien ...AND GATE CAMPS . . . someone was not paying attention to the patchnotes. . . .end of line. ---- If you think your too paranoid to play EvE... Then you clearly are not paranoid enough to play EvE
Kruullien	Posted - 2011.01.27 01:06:00 - [4] Originally by: Steve Thomas Originally by: Kruullien ...AND GATE CAMPS . . . someone was not paying attention to the patchnotes. . . nope.
Quemist	Posted - 2011.01.27 01:07:00 - [5] Wouldn't that be more realistic? Why aren't they podding people?
Vim Spiritus Draconis	Posted - 2011.01.27 01:08:00 - [6] I agree with the OP's idea. If you don't try to get your pod out of a site, thoose bad mofos sanshas that are here and got gear to counter us capsuleers should definetly try to hurt our squishy capsulees =)
Planktal Gallente Kenshao Industries Galactic Acqisition Specialists	Posted - 2011.01.27 01:08:00 - [7] ...and no CONCORD in invasion systems. . . Here, sanity... niiiice sanity, come to daddy... okay, that's a good sanity... THWONK! GOT the bastard. Everyone has a right to be stupid, just some people abuse the privilege.
Rin Vires Gallente RinCorp	Posted - 2011.01.27 01:08:00 - [8] I agree with the OP, but podding won't truely make it feel like PvP. Incursion rats should hop on the forums and whine about Incursion zones being dead because they killed all the bears that went there. They then should propose silly ideas such as moving lvl 3 and 4 missions into Incursion zones or making Incursion zones in all the major traderoutes. And last but not least, they should berate any industrialist/missioner than dares post in their whine thread. --- You're in the topic. Topic is in the forum. Troll is in the forum.
Steve Thomas Minmatar	Posted - 2011.01.27 01:10:00 - [9] at the very least could we get concord to not show up at a single Sancha sight with more ships that the comined sansha invasion has modules? .end of line. ---- If you think your too paranoid to play EvE... Then you clearly are not paranoid enough to play EvE
Joss56 Gallente Unleashed' Fury	Posted - 2011.01.27 01:12:00 - [10] just shoot any rock close to you ________________________________________________ "You do realise you live on a globe, right? And that there places outside the USA/UK?"
Centri Sixx	Posted - 2011.01.27 01:12:00 - [11] Why yes, I'm sure this will be the magic bullet that shoots even more people into participating in Incursions, Holmes. Make it feel more like PvP.
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2011.01.27 01:14:00 - [12] Edited by: Akita T on 27/01/2011 01:15:43 Originally by: Steve Thomas Originally by: Kruullien ...AND GATE CAMPS . . . someone was not paying attention to the patchnotes. . . I was, but I can't remember having seen any mention of Sanshas being literally at the (star)gates in Incursion systems, although I was expecting that exact thing to happen based on the promotional video. Originally by: Planktal ...and no CONCORD in invasion systems. That would hilariously also solve the whole "popped for RRing somebody in my fleet that shot me" issue Originally by: Quemist Wouldn't that be more realistic? Why aren't they podding people? I have no idea. The RP fluff backstory says they are kinda' going against capsuleers primarily, so it makes no RP sense for them to NOT try to pod us. And it would be totally kickass to finally get some NPCs that pod people. Originally by: Centri Sixx Why yes, I'm sure this will be the magic bullet that shoots even more people into participating in Incursions, Holmes. Make it feel more like PvP. ~~Build it~~Ramp up rewards by a factor of X, and they will come. Note : where X is a sufficiently large number _ Make ISK\|\|Build\|\|React\|\|1k papercuts _
baltec1 Antares Shipyards Phalanx Alliance	Posted - 2011.01.27 01:17:00 - [13] TOTAL HELL DEATH Accept nothing less.
Ej Raspujk	Posted - 2011.01.27 01:17:00 - [14] Incursion is a joke. Better word an abomination. It's not meant to simulate pvp, even tho the icelandic morons kid themself that it might be. It is the accumilation of the complete failcascade ccp has been on since they first indulged the paying carebear. They still haven't figured out the difference between a healthy evolution of gameplay and just cheaply selling out.
baltec1 Antares Shipyards Phalanx Alliance	Posted - 2011.01.27 01:24:00 - [15] Originally by: Ej Raspujk Incursion is a joke. Better word an abomination. It's not meant to simulate pvp, even tho the icelandic morons kid themself that it might be. It is the accumilation of the complete failcascade ccp has been on since they first indulged the paying carebear. They still haven't figured out the difference between a healthy evolution of gameplay and just cheaply selling out. 6000 dead in less than two days and bear tears everywhere. Sorry but this is one of the best bits of content ever!
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2011.01.27 01:28:00 - [16] Originally by: baltec1 6000 dead in less than two days and bear tears everywhere. Sorry but this is one of the best bits of content ever! QFT. I'm what you could mistakenly call a carebear but I'm still giggling at the "carebear tears" spilled all over the forum about incursion wipeouts and such. _ Make ISK\|\|Build\|\|React\|\|1k papercuts _
Ej Raspujk	Posted - 2011.01.27 01:30:00 - [17] Edited by: Ej Raspujk on 27/01/2011 01:30:23 Originally by: baltec1 Originally by: Ej Raspujk Incursion is a joke. Better word an abomination. It's not meant to simulate pvp, even tho the icelandic morons kid themself that it might be. It is the accumilation of the complete failcascade ccp has been on since they first indulged the paying carebear. They still haven't figured out the difference between a healthy evolution of gameplay and just cheaply selling out. 6000 dead in less than two days and bear tears everywhere. Sorry but this is one of the best bits of content ever! lol i stand corrected. Although, it's still weak to present a game in a way that a player doesn't need to learn anything at all about the core vision (pvp, never safe etc.), and then laugh when those players don't have a clue about buffer tanks and rr.
Steve Thomas Minmatar	Posted - 2011.01.27 01:33:00 - [18] they should also post on forums whenever a software glitch causes issues with Jita or the market place or contracts and clame credit for it. heck they should probably claim responsiblity for all the lag related DCs and socket closures and other crap from the legacy code that ccp is trying to update. .end of line. ---- If you think your too paranoid to play EvE... Then you clearly are not paranoid enough to play EvE
yani dumyat Minmatar Tribal Liberation Force	Posted - 2011.01.27 01:34:00 - [19] Originally by: Rin Vires Incursion rats should hop on the forums and whine. +1 internets to you sir. As to the the OP, yeah I'm all for NPC's that pod, always seemed stupid that you could spend half your eve career blowing up sanshas and they would leave your pod alone.
Cruel Crow Aeon Interstellar Conglomerate	Posted - 2011.01.27 01:34:00 - [20] Some should be careful what they ask for! It's a nice idea podding Sansha, until your podded by them many time. As you can see it would be annoying after a few times. This Idea is just pure garbage
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2011.01.27 01:36:00 - [21] Edited by: Akita T on 27/01/2011 01:38:43 Originally by: Ej Raspujk it's still weak to present a game in a way that a player doesn't need to learn anything at all about the core vision (pvp, never safe etc.), and then laugh when those players don't have a clue about buffer tanks and rr. Damn if they do and damn if they don't ? They just introduced some way for people to be mildly forced to get acquainted with that, and you're berating them for not making it mandatory earlier ? Or is it just that you're dismissive of our reaction to them learning it the hard way ? Buffer tanks and rr aren't exactly novel concepts, and L5 missions weren't exactly solo pieces of cake, even L4s attempted by less experienced players would benefit from such techniques, so I'm not sure how else you would have hoped for CCP to "shove" those concepts down unwilling people's throats to begin with better than they just did. Originally by: Cruel Crow It's a nice idea podding Sansha, until your podded by them many time. As you can see it would be annoying after a few times. A few times ? ROFL, the forums would explode into outrage the moment the announcement would be made, or worse, on the first player report of Sansha podding. Also, suggestion : don't get podded. WTFO. _ Make ISK\|\|Build\|\|React\|\|1k papercuts _
yani dumyat Minmatar Tribal Liberation Force	Posted - 2011.01.27 01:39:00 - [22] Edited by: yani dumyat on 27/01/2011 01:40:25 Originally by: Cruel Crow Some should be careful what they ask for! It's a nice idea podding Sansha, until your podded by them many time. As you can see it would be annoying after a few times. This Idea is just pure garbage No, you'd just have to spam warp, I mean is it really hard to do? As to the sansha rats whining on the forum thing....surely there's a dev with a sense of humour somewhere, pretty please, more than comedy gold it would be pure RP winsauce.
baltec1 Antares Shipyards Phalanx Alliance	Posted - 2011.01.27 01:43:00 - [23] Originally by: yani dumyat Originally by: Cruel Crow Some should be careful what they ask for! It's a nice idea podding Sansha, until your podded by them many time. As you can see it would be annoying after a few times. This Idea is just pure garbage No, you'd just have to spam warp, I mean is it really hard to do? As to the sansha rats whining on the forum thing....surely there's a dev with a sense of humour somewhere, pretty please, it would be comedy gold. Would be better if they trolled people too. I can see it now, some bear starts a whine about how they got wiped out and the first reply is from a sansha rat asking if the OP would like to buy back their faction launchers
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2011.01.27 01:44:00 - [24] Edited by: Akita T on 27/01/2011 01:44:19 Originally by: yani dumyat As to the sansha rats whining on the forum thing....surely there's a dev with a sense of humour somewhere, pretty please, more than comedy gold it would be pure RP winsauce. Just get the guys who write chronicles and such, give'em a few beers and let'em go nuts P.S. Oh, oh, they should ALSO smacktalk in local ! _ Make ISK\|\|Build\|\|React\|\|1k papercuts _
Ej Raspujk	Posted - 2011.01.27 01:44:00 - [25] Originally by: Akita T Originally by: Ej Raspujk it's still weak to present a game in a way that a player doesn't need to learn anything at all about the core vision (pvp, never safe etc.), and then laugh when those players don't have a clue about buffer tanks and rr. Damn if they do and damn if they don't ? They just introduced some way for people to be mildly forced to get acquainted with that, and you're berating them for not making it mandatory earlier ? Or is it just that you're dismissive of our reaction to them learning it the hard way ? Buffer tanks and rr aren't exactly novel concepts, and L5 missions weren't exactly solo pieces of cake, even L4s attempted by less experienced players would benefit from such techniques, so I'm not sure how else you would have hoped for CCP to "shove" those concepts down unwilling people's throats to begin with better than they just did. The point is. You can train to hulk, battleship and make enough isk to buy a plex each month, without ever dipping into things the game offers that I would consider core mechanics. Imo this situation has come to be because ccp is selling out. They are diverting from their holy vision for cash. They saw the first paying carebare not leaving the confinements of the starting area and understood money could be made. So they expanded on this starting area. And now we have incursion. I don't want to explain why this is bad :)
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2011.01.27 01:46:00 - [26] Edited by: Akita T on 27/01/2011 01:47:41 Originally by: Ej Raspujk The point is. You can train to hulk, battleship and make enough isk to buy a plex each month, without ever dipping into things the game offers that I would consider core mechanics. Sov stuff is also a core game mechanic. Never get out of empire, never have to learn about it. It's a player's choice. Sandbody thinking and all that fluff. I don't see it as a fault of CCP. Don't get me wrong, they have loads, but I don't see that as one of'em. Originally by: Ej Raspujk So they expanded on this starting area. And now we have incursion. And any player can choose NOT to participate in them. You don't get trapped with no chance to escape. You can leave just fine. _ Make ISK\|\|Build\|\|React\|\|1k papercuts _
Chaos Incarnate Faceless Logistics	Posted - 2011.01.27 01:47:00 - [27] Originally by: Akita T SANSHA INCURSION VESSELS SHOULD TRY TO POD YOU. Second. Also they should use HICs. _____________________ Look down. Back up. Where are you? You're on a forum, with the alt your alt could post like.
Centri Sixx	Posted - 2011.01.27 01:48:00 - [28] Originally by: Akita T Edited by: Akita T on 27/01/2011 01:38:43 Originally by: Ej Raspujk it's still weak to present a game in a way that a player doesn't need to learn anything at all about the core vision (pvp, never safe etc.), and then laugh when those players don't have a clue about buffer tanks and rr. Damn if they do and damn if they don't ? They just introduced some way for people to be mildly forced to get acquainted with that, and you're berating them for not making it mandatory earlier ? Or is it just that you're dismissive of our reaction to them learning it the hard way ? Buffer tanks and rr aren't exactly novel concepts, and L5 missions weren't exactly solo pieces of cake, even L4s attempted by less experienced players would benefit from such techniques, so I'm not sure how else you would have hoped for CCP to "shove" those concepts down unwilling people's throats to begin with better than they just did. I'm not sure what the point of the original objection is. If you can fly a buffer tanked rr battleship decently, and can afford to replace them, you aren't a new player. I'm also wondering why you'd push PvP fits on a percentage of the population who don't PvP. It's not like you are going to see lightbulbs flash and them think "Hey, I can do L5s with this!" Other issues remain.
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2011.01.27 01:49:00 - [29] Edited by: Akita T on 27/01/2011 01:50:57 Originally by: Chaos Incarnate Also they should use HICs. HICs, bubbles, the works ! In 0.0 space only, of course. Originally by: Centri Sixx I'm not sure what the point of the original objection is. I could ask the same of you. This whole content is OPTIONAL. Why complain you can't do it in your REGULAR type of PvE fit ? Is requiring a tad bit of adaptation SO bad ? _ Make ISK\|\|Build\|\|React\|\|1k papercuts _
Chaos Incarnate Faceless Logistics	Posted - 2011.01.27 01:51:00 - [30] Originally by: Akita T Originally by: Chaos Incarnate Also they should use HICs. HICs, bubbles, the works ! In 0.0 space only, of course. No, they should do it everywhere. _____________________ Look down. Back up. Where are you? You're on a forum, with the alt your alt could post like.

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