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Mazer Ice Fire Warriors	Posted - 2011.02.02 18:11:00 - [31] Faction warfare is excellent when both sides are willing to fight. One of the many problems with faction warfare is when you get a couple fleets going you get a back and forth of ship-ups or X's to the point where its obvious one side is more powerful than the other, then the weaker fleet ends up docking up or leaving the area. Or you get two large fleets that would potentially make a great fight then one side brings in all their 0.0 buddies and totally turns the table, its ridiculous. This concept is part of EVE, the bigger fleet basically "won", but they get nothing for it. They don't really get to claim that victory, they just get blue balls. The idea behind the plex system is great, it allows players to "pvp" without the worry of having to ship-up if someone tries to bring something bigger to the fight and it kind-a-sort-a-maybe gives the sense of territory control. The problem with plexing is there is no great incentive for the people who do faction warfare to capture these plexes, effectively negating the whole idea. If a faction ends up stealing a system they get nothing other than the fact that a few words are changed around in the sov. tab, woopdy-friggin-doo! CCP has given us a little bone when it comes to plexing (small amounts of LP), but they really need to revamp the whole system to make it so people want to do plexes, so people want to capture systems for their militia. The PVE aspects are fun, at least from the minmatar side. Like someone said earlier, the missions really feel like missions, hit and run type situations. And the risk of running into a gate camp or the possibility of some pvp while you're doing the missions makes them that much better. As far as third parties becoming involved in FW, its part of EVE IMO. I can ***** about it all I want, but when it comes down to it if your enemy has to bring in help then its kudos to you. And whats stopping you from bringing in your own help? Spies are another thing that plagues FW, since anyone can join the militia its made the general militia populace entirely untrustworthy. Like LoneAetos said, its very hard for someone new to FW to gain the trust of the "in-groups" that control most of the bigger fights. I remember when I first started out I was very frustrated by this fact. I guess there's really no way around it, they could put restrictions on accounts so your alts cant be in opposing faction corps, but plenty of people have secondary accounts so its something you just have to deal with. I think the FW community is going to really have to push CCP and the CSM persistently if they're going to want to see any changes. Faction warfare has been out for what, 5 years now? And while there have been some improvements its pretty much the same thing it was when they released it.
Damar Rocarion	Posted - 2011.02.02 18:18:00 - [32] Edited by: Damar Rocarion on 02/02/2011 18:18:55 Originally by: chatgris That would be someone like yourself with a loose grasp on reality who harbors a lot of anger. The day eve causes me even a slight fraction of the ill feelings that you demonstrate is the day I stop playing this game and go elsewhere. Seeing you were happy enough to let your fleet spam Intaki local with bull****, i'd say you are already there. You were not even willing to curb your fleets emoraging when requested so by FG. (which is why he was happy to give me greenlight to go after your stragglers if I wanted to) And naturally your corp went and spammed forums with threads about me allying with Gallentes and all. Damar Rocarion Brigadier General
Igloo Quantum Cats Syndicate	Posted - 2011.02.02 18:35:00 - [33] Originally by: Damar Rocarion Edited by: Damar Rocarion on 02/02/2011 18:18:55 Originally by: chatgris That would be someone like yourself with a loose grasp on reality who harbors a lot of anger. The day eve causes me even a slight fraction of the ill feelings that you demonstrate is the day I stop playing this game and go elsewhere. Seeing you were happy enough to let your fleet spam Intaki local with bull****, i'd say you are already there. You were not even willing to curb your fleets emoraging when requested so by FG. (which is why he was happy to give me greenlight to go after your stragglers if I wanted to) And naturally your corp went and spammed forums with threads about me allying with Gallentes and all. Damar Rocarion Brigadier General So much hate for TLF. Very sad
chatgris Tribal Liberation Force	Posted - 2011.02.02 18:51:00 - [34] Edited by: chatgris on 02/02/2011 18:57:37 Originally by: Damar Rocarion Edited by: Damar Rocarion on 02/02/2011 18:18:55 Originally by: chatgris That would be someone like yourself with a loose grasp on reality who harbors a lot of anger. The day eve causes me even a slight fraction of the ill feelings that you demonstrate is the day I stop playing this game and go elsewhere. Seeing you were happy enough to let your fleet spam Intaki local with bull**, i'd say you are already there. You were not even willing to curb your fleets emoraging when requested so by FG. (which is why he was happy to give me greenlight to go after your stragglers if I wanted to) I don't have any control over what my fleet members say in local, I requested they ignored. It was miraculous enough that I got them to not shoot you during our fleets blueing. On the topic of people saying things in local, the very creation of SLAPD was partly due to this - they want to be free to smack talk however they want. I don't approve of a lot of what they say. I was personally disappointed by a lot of their earlier behaviour before we knew you were in FG's fleet (though the outpouring of DAMAR CARES stuff in local was quite hilarious and technically, we were expressing friendly words :) ). I don't like to see my militia stoop to the level of local talk that you use, but again, I have no control over the matter. Originally by:** Damar Rocarion And naturally your corp went and spammed forums with threads about me allying with Gallentes and all. LOL! The thread is mostly SLAPD, started by SLAPD, and titled "From SLAPD to all". There are very very few posts from QCATS in it, two of them are onezen asking wth happenned and me answering. Yet you attribute it to QCATS? I cannot think of a clearer SLAPD thread in all of the forums. Anyways, congratulations on ****ting on yet another fw thread that had nothing to do with you.
BolsterBomb	Posted - 2011.02.02 18:53:00 - [35] Originally by: Damar Rocarion Edited by: Damar Rocarion on 02/02/2011 18:18:55 Originally by: chatgris That would be someone like yourself with a loose grasp on reality who harbors a lot of anger. The day eve causes me even a slight fraction of the ill feelings that you demonstrate is the day I stop playing this game and go elsewhere. Seeing you were happy enough to let your fleet spam Intaki local with bull****, i'd say you are already there. You were not even willing to curb your fleets emoraging when requested so by FG. (which is why he was happy to give me greenlight to go after your stragglers if I wanted to) And naturally your corp went and spammed forums with threads about me allying with Gallentes and all. Damar Rocarion Brigadier General You have issues dude................btw HAPPY DAMAR DAY
Damar Rocarion	Posted - 2011.02.02 19:06:00 - [36] Originally by: chatgris It was miraculous enough that I got them to not shoot you during our fleets blueing. So basicly you had alt in Caldari fleet which you would have used to warp at 0 at me and hope I was sitting still (I was not) or how did you expect to have your fleet lay down divine wrath on a cloaky recon sitting 100km off from you without devhax (which you might have). Damar Rocarion Brigadier General
chatgris Tribal Liberation Force	Posted - 2011.02.02 19:17:00 - [37] Originally by: Damar Rocarion Edited by: Damar Rocarion on 02/02/2011 19:07:27 Originally by: chatgris It was miraculous enough that I got them to not shoot you during our fleets blueing. So basicly you had alt in Caldari fleet which you would have used to warp at 0 at me and hope I was sitting still (I was not) or how did you expect to have your fleet lay down divine wrath on a cloaky recon sitting 100km off from you without devhax (which you might have)? Damar Rocarion Brigadier General RL obligations prevent me from further continuing this, but before it gets out of hand - it would be more accurate to state "got my fleet to agree not to shoot you should they see you". Also, devhax?! That's easily the best damar accusation I've heard all year! What's next, accusations of spawning plexes to flip key systems?
K0n Fus10n Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2011.02.02 20:35:00 - [38] I love how all these FW threads always devolve into a few people arguing over the same old sh... err, stuff. To add to the thread, FW is fun - try it out. Also, TLF is good people. o7 Cheers!
Mazer Ice Fire Warriors	Posted - 2011.02.02 21:01:00 - [39] Originally by: K0n Fus10n I love how all these FW threads always devolve into a few people arguing over the same old sh... err, stuff. I agree, people should be able to put aside their differences and actually post something that contributes to the topic rather than bickering. Originally by: K0n Fus10n TLF is good people. o7 Back to the topic at hand, what other improvements do you all think could be made to the FW system?
Bomberlocks Minmatar CTRL-Q	Posted - 2011.02.02 21:10:00 - [40] FW is the only part of eve that really allows casual PvP. It's not perfect (sov should mean something even if just a minor reduction in FW mission LP rewards, because then they would fight like crazy over sov) but it's the only way I personally can square to play the game with my RL job and time limits.

James Sarum	Posted - 2011.02.02 23:01:00 - [41] CCP needs to trow in some of those negative effects you get from incursion into FW occupancy system. Like reduction of station services in space wich is occupied by a hostile militia. Same reward ssytem should also be installed in FW plexing. And plexing should give empire standing, not just corp standing.
Oathborne Caldari Genstar Inc	Posted - 2011.02.02 23:59:00 - [42] Originally by: James Sarum CCP needs to trow in some of those negative effects you get from incursion into FW occupancy system. Like reduction of station services in space wich is occupied by a hostile militia. Same reward sytem should also be installed in FW plexing. And plexing should give empire standing, not just corp standing. This.
Cearain Caldari The IMPERIUM of LaZy NATION	Posted - 2011.02.03 01:27:00 - [43] Originally by: Feyona Edited by: Feyona on 01/02/2011 22:53:07 ...For me, at least, beyond a few people I really dislike, it has lost the sense of a 'war' and turned into a gentlemanly sparring match with old friends, because we've been killing each other for so long. .... Something needs to change; maybe the mechanic behind taking systems and the consequences thereof. But I don't really believe that's the problem, the real issue seems to be that there is no new blood in FW, at least not significantly, to shake things up, and there hasn't been in over a year. So perhaps we (meaning all of us who partake in it) need to come up with a way to get more people interested. Also, as a player who plays with a single account the majority of the time, I find the Gallente/Amarr missions to be unbalanced, ... Good points all. As far as new blood I think fw gets allot of bad press. There are many reasons for this 1) allot of people who end up not liking fw were new to pvp and 2) Many people never tried it, 3) many people claim they want good fights but really donÆt and 4) the plexing occupancy mechanic is buggy and this gets translated as ôFW is broken.ö One problem for fwÆs image is it draws people in to start pvp. Allot of people will find eve pvp is not their bag. They wonÆt be able to budget how many ships they can lose etc. So they will blame fw. Very few people who are used to null sec pvp go into fw and complain that there are too many blobs in fw. It seems like every time you hear of fw on podcasts or blogs its negative. They hear about the bugs and assume its ôbrokenö and only for lolrpers. Solution: if you see people saying fw is terrible correct them. Just direct them to this thread. Other than the balance issues FW missions are perfect. I fly for the amarr. I think they are what all low sec missions should be like. Hit and run missions for allot of lp and unique items. CCP really got it right with fw missions. If they are going to leave the missions unbalanced give more decent items that are unique to each faction. Faction armor plates that are almost as good as meta 4 arenÆt really cutting it. People should be rewarded for doing plexing but the whole militia should not really gain. If the ôconsequencesö for occupancy are too big then everyone will just join the winning team and the unbalance will snowball. I just wish I knew where people were plexing instead of having to warp around looking for everyone. The plexes should be available and fought over 23/7. It should call for many people to be in many different places at once in different sized ships. I think fw is ignored by ccp because we rarely get onboard for any specific issue. ItÆs hard to get people to support specific fw ideas in assembly hall. The specific ideas just sort of drop. Meanwhile people who want to change the height or bloodline of their avatar get all the supports. Hopefully we will get someone on csm 6 interested in fw. It could really give eve a boost if they get the plex fights reinvigorated. LOL I think Damar and Chatgris will be 75 years old and still arguing about who used exploits in fw war in 2008. I just donÆt like pve so I donÆt do plexes. The only reason I go in plexes now is so I donÆt get blobbed. I generally move away from the button/rats so they donÆt start attacking me or whoring my killmails. -Cearain Make fw occupancy pvp instead of pve: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1329906
Cearain Caldari The IMPERIUM of LaZy NATION	Posted - 2011.02.03 01:30:00 - [44] Originally by: Oathborne Originally by: James Sarum CCP needs to trow in some of those negative effects you get from incursion into FW occupancy system. Like reduction of station services in space wich is occupied by a hostile militia. Same reward sytem should also be installed in FW plexing. And plexing should give empire standing, not just corp standing. This. The consequences can't be that big or I think people would just keep joining the winning side. -Cearain Make fw occupancy pvp instead of pve: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1329906
Damar Rocarion	Posted - 2011.02.03 04:20:00 - [45] Originally by: James Sarum And plexing should give empire standing, not just corp standing. But it does give empire standing via promotions... Damar Rocarion Brigadier General
James Sarum	Posted - 2011.02.03 05:28:00 - [46] Originally by: Damar Rocarion Originally by: James Sarum And plexing should give empire standing, not just corp standing. But it does give empire standing via promotions... Damar Rocarion Brigadier General One time only, does you no good really in the long run
X Gallentius Quantum Cats Syndicate	Posted - 2011.02.03 06:06:00 - [47] Edited by: X Gallentius on 03/02/2011 06:06:07 FW is pure win. Free war dec. Check Massive income via missions. Check. Unlimited supply of nearly free Federation Navy Comets. Check. What else would you want?
Super Chair Caldari Quantum Cats Syndicate	Posted - 2011.02.03 09:15:00 - [48] I really like FW because there isn't some slave driving alliance leader breathing down your neck if you decide to have a life and not show up to ten hour CTAs. There's a lotta good people to fight against wether you're Caldari or Gallente. And there's good isk from the missions. The only downside is that the populations are so random in the lowsec around Cal/Gal lowsec. Sometimes you'll have fights every few jumps, other times you don't see any action no matter how hard you look all night.
BolsterBomb	Posted - 2011.02.03 16:52:00 - [49] One of the things I think is absolutely awesoem about FW is that it is a giant alliance in itself. Most the gallente corps fly together. I rarely fly a corp only roam. Which is neat because I work/know/and play with tons of players instead of a few set guys. It really doesnt matter what corp you're in because you're flying with tons of different corps at the same time. In FW corps arent the be all end all. They do have their pros and cons and have their unique flavor in them, but it is not as important as being in null.
Von Kroll Caldari Kroll's Legion	Posted - 2011.02.03 21:27:00 - [50] Originally by: James Sarum One time only, does you no good really in the long run If you keep running missions and go through all the promotions, you'll wind up having a personal standing with your faction that will allow you to run just about every agent in your faction, including some level 5's. That's a powerful tool. That being said, I think everyone will agree that changing the Occupancy mechanic to matter would take FW towards a 95% solution. I personally feel its a bit daft that I can dock up at a Gallente station. My suggestion would be that if I'm in Caldari FW, that I shouldn't have access to any station in Gallente or Minmatar occupied space. Nothing--no agents, no services, no docking rights, period. Make it just like null-sec sovereignty in that the faction that has occupancy over a system is the only one that has access to the stations. The only difference being that you can't establish cyno jammers, jump bridges, etc. Further, no super caps allowed in FW low-sec space. If these two changes were made, FW might still have a few quirks, but the overall intent expressed originally by CCP would be met, and we'd all be in for the fight of our lives... That being said, I still enjoy FW as it exists--would just enjoy it more if the changes were made.

X Gallentius Quantum Cats Syndicate	Posted - 2011.02.03 21:44:00 - [51] You shouldn't have access to an FDU station, like I shouldn't have access to a State Protectorate Station. Station guns should shoot you too. Militia station soverereignty should change if that system is occupied too. Otherwise, any other corporation's stations should remain as is, and free for everybody to use.
Mithril Ryder Genstar Inc	Posted - 2011.02.03 21:50:00 - [52] Originally by: Damar Rocarion Edited by: Damar Rocarion on 02/02/2011 18:18:55 Originally by: chatgris That would be someone like yourself with a loose grasp on reality who harbors a lot of anger. The day eve causes me even a slight fraction of the ill feelings that you demonstrate is the day I stop playing this game and go elsewhere. Seeing you were happy enough to let your fleet spam Intaki local with bull****, i'd say you are already there. You were not even willing to curb your fleets emoraging when requested so by FG. (which is why he was happy to give me greenlight to go after your stragglers if I wanted to) And naturally your corp went and spammed forums with threads about me allying with Gallentes and all. Damar Rocarion Brigadier General This man, He is Mad. In all serious Damar is mad, as in "Mad as a hatter", as in (for certain children who need things explained in very small words) crazy. Anyways, there were at least 30 people in fleet (more?) most of them decided to chatter in local, I wouldn't call that "spamming" local so much as many people talking. Regardless, what most people were saying was not offensive, and quite a bit was (at first) out of what I would describe as honest shock at the situation. You made inflammatory remarks in local, some responded to that. You soon blocked (most?) everyone, and then continued to talk to people in local that could literally no longer talk back to you. You are seemingly unable to realize that despite Chatgris' fantasy, he is not the glorious leader of all corps in Heyd. (Just kidding Chat, I know you wouldn't want that, heh). While many in SLAPD are former 'cats, they are their own corp, with their own leadership, rules and etc. If you wish to moan about that thread, do so to the proper people. Kthksbye. Further, which chat was the FC at the time, he has about the same control over the fleet as any other FC does. Which is little to none if the fleet members are unwilling or unable to co-operate (your FCs have a number of control problems of their own, including fire control...). And last but not least. The old "for every action" often holds true for the actions of people. Even if the reaction is not equal, or exactly opposite there usually is some reaction. Your own personal behaviour, which includes your action and speech, has been of such a nature as to cause people to react. Now, since this is eve and not "fluffy pink horses online" not everyone is going to choose the "high road" and simply let it go, say nice things, go and tell mommy etc. Some people are going to, as a result of your actions, react with anger, hostility, pity, sarcastic humor etc. Just as you chose to react to what others have done, they chose to react to what you have done. At a certain point, neither party is without blame. One thing I have come to believe with relative certainty is that you (your persona that you RP, or as a person) live quite firmly in your own world which is fully true to you in your own mind.
Von Hesse	Posted - 2011.02.03 22:40:00 - [53] Originally by: X Gallentius You shouldn't have access to an FDU station, like I shouldn't have access to a State Protectorate Station. Station guns should shoot you too. Militia station soverereignty should change if that system is occupied too. Otherwise, any other corporation's stations should remain as is, and free for everybody to use. Why? If a system has a Caldari NPC corp station, why would they allow Gallente FW corp access? For example, if a system has a Caldari FW station, a Caldari Navy station, and a Lai Dai station, they should all prevent Gallente and Minmatar from docking and vice-versa. Now, if there was a CONCORD station in system, I might see keeping it open for everyone...
Hirana Yoshida Behavioral Affront	Posted - 2011.02.03 23:30:00 - [54] Originally by: Von Hesse Why? If a system has a Caldari NPC corp station, why would they allow Gallente FW corp access?... The same reason corporations are more than willing to deal with dictators and other nefarious types in the real world: Profit. Would make sense for the militia and navy associated corps to deny docking, but for all the others one must assume they are in it for the ISK. Could form the basis of a glorious jig-saw for CCP. Shuffle stations around in the FW zones to make "dead" pockets where an opposing militia has no safe harbour .. oldschool rabbit hunts have always been a hoot
Mutnin Amarr Mutineers	Posted - 2011.02.03 23:38:00 - [55] Edited by: Mutnin on 03/02/2011 23:38:37 Originally by: X Gallentius What else would you want? I could think of something.. I'd like WT's that undock fly something besides Drams, go for roams looking for fights that don't require also having 20 other guys sitting on the other side of the gate prior to engaging something. I know it's a tall order but damn there is a extreme lack of soloers from the Gallente side. The very few that do run around never leave their Dramiels, Cynabals & Vagabonds. I would just love to get fights from time to time against Gallente Cruisers/BC's that didn't always end with them calling in 20+ to ***** on a KM. That's what I'd like.. I know it's a tall order and asking a lot, but perhaps you guys could live on the risky side once in a while.
betterdent The Dark Horses.	Posted - 2011.02.04 00:40:00 - [56] It's PVP for people who cant think, or have a hard time understanding the game mechanics. I'll take any decent high-sec war-dec corp outnumbered 3-1 against a FW blob anyday.
Jodie Amille Rape of Virtue	Posted - 2011.02.04 00:44:00 - [57] I think fw suffers a bit with having way too many stations, personally. It's too easy for people to reship or dock if they don't want to fight and it's very hard to actually force a fight anywhere without dedicating 2-3 of your gang to being in fast-lock inties, which(if you like running small gangs) takes a big chunk of "engage-ability" out of your gang should you run into a gang your size or larger. Add this to the fact that people are inherently risk-adverse(regardless of the massive income tool of fw agents) and it just gets silly. Case in point, I was running a 4 person faction/t2 frig gang around heyd and a wt cane warped to the gate. Smelled like bait but we jumped after it and engaged. At half armor in comes a blackbird and dram, then a SFI a bit later. Was pretty lol. Another problem is that in 2008 and early 2009, you could kind of combat the blobs with less people with higher SP's using nano, snipe hac's etc, but now everyone and their dog runs t2/faction/pirate in the first place so it's a much harder thing to do. I think the average sp is a lot higher in fw than it used to be and any roaming gang can be immediately hard-countered(and probably outnumbered). FW was absolutely awesome in 2008 and early 09. I've had the best fights of my life fighting for plexes, regardless of timezone back then. But now no one cares about it and it's the same old bait 'n blob on gates or stations or gatecamping. --------
Jodie Amille Rape of Virtue	Posted - 2011.02.04 00:46:00 - [58] Originally by: betterdent It's PVP for people who cant think, or have a hard time understanding the game mechanics. I'll take any decent high-sec war-dec corp outnumbered 3-1 against a FW blob anyday. lol. Keep neutral rr-ing about it and hugging them stations --------
Montmazar Autocannons Anonymous	Posted - 2011.02.04 01:50:00 - [59] Edited by: Montmazar on 04/02/2011 01:53:01 I have life obligations that often keep me from logging in for weeks or even months at a time, and as such, FW really is the only option for PVP. Thankfully, I like it. At least in my theater of operations (Amarr/Minmatar) and timezone (late US), people on both sides seem generally friendly and relaxed. Unlike the above posters who would appreciate more acrimony, I see this as a game, and am very repulsed by those who have a lot of emotional investment in it. Unfortunately, fittings police, calling people "noob" and general rage in local are everywhere in EVE pvp, but in FW, perhaps due to being looked down on by the nullsec serious business types, has a lot less of that kind of behavior than nullsec or god forbid, high sec (the worst place in EVE). Plexes are pointless, but in late US they barely exist anyway, so that's not a big issue that affects me personally. I would like to see occupancy matter, and have never understood why I am allowed to dock in Amarr militia stations moments after killing Amarr navy NPCs or Amarr militia players. In my ideal world, that would change. But also in my ideal world, the means for changing systems wouldn't be orbiting a button for 30 minutes. That is boring. I like the gates restricting certain ship classes, but the buttons are dull. Also, the current overpower and overdistribution of pirate frigs does make a mockery of the ship restrictions anyway. FW missions pay too well, if anything. I feel like I'm cheating, when I come back from one hour of travel and one hour of missions (during which I mostly chatted and messed around on facebook or looked at ****) and make enough LP for hundreds of millions of isk, with almost no risk to my ship. That's pretty nuts. But, it's not overrun with mission runners, proving once again that no amount of isk will entice highsec bears to risk lowsec and the mean people therein. I would like to see more mission variation.
Mutnin Amarr Mutineers	Posted - 2011.02.04 01:53:00 - [60] Edited by: Mutnin on 04/02/2011 01:55:43 Originally by: Jodie Amille I think fw suffers a bit with having way too many stations, personally. It's too easy for people to reship or dock if they don't want to fight and it's very hard to actually force a fight anywhere without dedicating 2-3 of your gang to being in fast-lock inties, which(if you like running small gangs) takes a big chunk of "engage-ability" out of your gang should you run into a gang your size or larger. Add this to the fact that people are inherently risk-adverse(regardless of the massive income tool of fw agents) and it just gets silly. Case in point, I was running a 4 person faction/t2 frig gang around heyd and a wt cane warped to the gate. Smelled like bait but we jumped after it and engaged. At half armor in comes a blackbird and dram, then a SFI a bit later. Was pretty lol. Another problem is that in 2008 and early 2009, you could kind of combat the blobs with less people with higher SP's using nano, snipe hac's etc, but now everyone and their dog runs t2/faction/pirate in the first place so it's a much harder thing to do. I think the average sp is a lot higher in fw than it used to be and any roaming gang can be immediately hard-countered(and probably outnumbered). FW was absolutely awesome in 2008 and early 09. I've had the best fights of my life fighting for plexes, regardless of timezone back then. But now no one cares about it and it's the same old bait 'n blob on gates or stations or gatecamping. This TBH for the most part.. granted I didn't start in 08 but I know FW and low sec was a much different animal back even in 09. I'll also second you on the whole risk adverse thing. It's seriously like wtf is wrong with PVP anymore. It used to not be hard, to find "decent" fights, (fights not ** gank-mails) now days it's almost next to impossible. I mean hell I go out of my way to stick to T1 ship hulls and even then it's extremely hard to get fights. Hell last week I spent 3 hours just going all over the Gallente back systems and even Hey/OMS in a damn Rifter, trying to get a fight and ended up docking up with out engaging a single target. The only Wt that even red boxed me was a Arti fit Dram that wouldn't even get with-in 20km it was just sad TBFH. I *** about blobs a lot and I know this.. However this is the exact reason I do so, simply because the blobs have eroded or better yet dumbed down the "actual" skill levels of this game. While yes the Skill Point level have gone up the actual "piloting" skill levels have dropped a hell of a lot. It's a shame TBH, because it seems EVE has been taken over by people whom just want to play arcade space ships for high score on easy mode.



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