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IoWalker
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Posted - 2011.02.08 03:09:00 -
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Just hearing about T3 frigate this, T3 frigate that, makes me want to sorrowfully stroke off of a leper-ed rat.
I mean, ARE YOU ****ING SERIOUS? The VERY last ship class for someone who hasn't spent 2 goddamn years in this ****ing game is about to be eradicated to some "Hey guess what, 6-8 months and you're going to be flying a frigate that completely makes the game obsolete and bypasses <insert ultra-massive game mechanic here> without any chance of retaliation."
Get you ****ing heads out of your asses and leave at least one ****ing class of ships from the stupid **** T3 disease.
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Tony SoXai
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Posted - 2011.02.08 03:23:00 -
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Now can you explain why you give a damn?
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Captain Nares
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Posted - 2011.02.08 03:24:00 -
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Edited by: Captain Nares on 08/02/2011 03:25:42 Plz tell us moar ****ing words about what do you ****ing think about ****ing dramiel. Nothing will ****ing spoil ****ing frigate class after this ****ing **** imo.
**** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** ****
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Paikis
Red Federation
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Posted - 2011.02.08 03:26:00 -
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Edited by: Paikis on 08/02/2011 03:26:15
Originally by: IoWalker Just hearing about T3 frigate this, T3 frigate that, makes me want to sorrowfully stroke off of a leper-ed rat. [\quote]
You're gonna do what to a leper-ed rat? Also, wat is lered-ed rat?
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IoWalker
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Posted - 2011.02.08 03:27:00 -
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Edited by: IoWalker on 08/02/2011 03:27:20 ^you need to get out of quote mode to really make your impression felt.
-there you go.
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Paikis
Red Federation
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Posted - 2011.02.08 03:28:00 -
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Ninja-edit and what quote?
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Tanthius Vanter
Gallente Vanter Ventures
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Posted - 2011.02.08 04:48:00 -
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I keep reading it over and I honestly have no idea what the OP is trying to say.
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Brynhilda
Amarr Gun Metal Hit Sqaud
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Posted - 2011.02.08 04:51:00 -
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T3 Frigates would replace the overly used T1 Frigate class!
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Mister Normal
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Posted - 2011.02.08 05:13:00 -
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I just hope CCP will create a Jump Tanker for cap support, giving them lots of fuels n stront when needed
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yrknat
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Posted - 2011.02.08 05:18:00 -
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I can't wait until they introduce T3 frigates. My AML caracal will not only wreck their wallet worse than T2 frigates, but will also cost them SP.
I really don't know why so many people want super expensive SP losing ships at the least survivable ship class. |
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Swynet
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Posted - 2011.02.08 05:23:00 -
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Originally by: IoWalker Just hearing about T3 frigate this, T3 frigate that, makes me want to sorrowfully stroke off of a leper-ed rat.
I mean, ARE YOU ****ING SERIOUS? The VERY last ship class for someone who hasn't spent 2 goddamn years in this ****ing game is about to be eradicated to some "Hey guess what, 6-8 months and you're going to be flying a frigate that completely makes the game obsolete and bypasses <insert ultra-massive game mechanic here> without any chance of retaliation."
Get you ****ing heads out of your asses and leave at least one ****ing class of ships from the stupid **** T3 disease.

At the very first looking I think this person is not happy.
Now about T3 frigs /agree , enough of small cheap pwnmobils already able to wreck ships 10 to 40x their price. If ever those must happen then make them at least expensive has any T1 BS hull.
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Paikis
Red Federation
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Posted - 2011.02.08 05:32:00 -
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Usually comes down to fit more than ship class. A pvp-fit battleship should wreck any frigates that try to solo them, while a PvE-fit battleship may die to a frigate... assumig the frigate can break the tank.
Also, WTF is a leper-ed rat?
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.02.08 05:33:00 -
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All we know about the design of T3 frigates is this: they're supposed to be cheap, highly configurable, and losing one won't be the end of the world. Any kind of statement beyond that is just guesswork, and it's not really enough to go on to start complaining about themà ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |

Swynet
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Posted - 2011.02.08 05:41:00 -
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Edited by: Swynet on 08/02/2011 05:41:19 Let's change this topic name to "We want T3 battleships making Caps wet theyr pantys"

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Dr Sheepbringer
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.02.08 06:33:00 -
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I'm going on a limb here, but did he just loose his stuff to a T3 cruiser?
Originally by: CCP Shadow Dr. Sheepbringer -- It's not that kind of horn.
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IoWalker
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Posted - 2011.02.08 23:48:00 -
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Now that I've calmed down a bit, and am sober, let me send a supplemental explanation.
Why in the hell would you want T3 frigs, when T2 frigs are already completely eff'ed? And, overpriced. How can the game introduce T3 frigates when most AFs and EAFs are understrength in their stats and/or abilities? There is no logical way to just introduce game-breaking really expensive and SP-intensive frigates, when the game would still have these completely dead AFs and EAFs that are already overpriced like $17M for an average EAF hull for example. Yeah, yeah Jaguar and Wolf, wtfe.
Also, my other concern is that, typically given what we've seen, a new T3 class comes with some ridiculous major game mechanic-breaking ability. Why would you want another type of frigate? Other than pushing the goal line (therefore training time/SUBSCRIPTION time/RE-TRAINING time after you die) quite a bit, there is NO reason for this. Oh, and frigates die a lot, that makes for whole lotta circular training on subscriptions, doesn't it?
Looking at Tippia's comment, ok. I can understand that maybe a T3 frigate would not go the exact path of T3 cruisers in every single one of these aspects, but I have good reason to believe that it will, and, if it does, it will have taken away the last ship class that a new player could reasonably train for and do their part in killing things in an acceptable time frame. I mean, at least buff the lame ass T2 frigs that should have been buffed a few years ago. That's all you really need to do.
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knentil
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Posted - 2011.02.09 02:54:00 -
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CCP should introduce T4s crusiers where you can pick 3 bonuses per subsystem, for 5 total subsystems and 15 total bonuses.
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Omara Otawan
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Posted - 2011.02.09 03:05:00 -
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Losing skillpoints every time a Thrasher sneezes in your general direction sounds like a fun concept if you ask me.
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freshspree
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Posted - 2011.02.09 03:22:00 -
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More ships in the game creates diversity and makes the game more fun to play a.k.a not getting bored as soon as you log on. CCp should hurry up and release t2 caps with a full line of t3 sub caps IMHO.
To the OP, i find it very very very hard to get your f*** point. From the looks of it this " The VERY last ship class for someone who hasn't spent 2 goddamn years in this ****ing game is about to be eradicated to some "Hey guess what, 6-8 months and you're going to be flying a frigate that completely makes the game obsolete and bypasses " sounds like QQing to me. So cause you've spent 2 years in eve, no one younger should be able to beat you?
Sorry but the last time i checked, no ship or skill is restricted to a certain few. You can always join a sov holding alliance if you wish to fly caps.
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Lord Beginner
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Posted - 2011.02.09 03:24:00 -
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More frigate related skills are always welcome in my book.
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Asuka Smith
Gallente Noir.
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Posted - 2011.02.09 04:45:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Beginner More frigate related skills are always welcome in my book.
Subsystem skills and a "racial strategic frigate" skill are not exactly "more skills related to frigates". It's skills related to a SINGLE frigate.
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Dr Sheepbringer
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.02.09 07:11:00 -
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Originally by: Omara Otawan Losing skillpoints every time a Thrasher sneezes in your general direction sounds like a fun concept if you ask me.
Scary one, I was running from a trasher a few days ago. It's enough to just run and save the ship! Loosing the ship and skillpoints...ouchie.
Originally by: CCP Shadow Dr. Sheepbringer -- It's not that kind of horn.
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Zhim'Fufu
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Posted - 2011.02.09 07:15:00 -
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CCP should immediately take all the devs off any t3 frigate development and thoroughly rebalance the entire t1 line of ships against all the new ships and mechanics they have introduced over the years. This would be a massive boost to many neglected areas of the game like t1 production or affordable weekend warrior plex funded pew pew due to the increase in demand for a greater spectrum of t1 ships for all purposes be it pve or pvp related. I'd much rather have a ham maller or prophecy than some uber niche t3 ship. Yeah yeah new content sells better than polished quality but ffs there comes a point where you have to think past short term profits to long term playability. This ain't wow after all in the popularity department so replacing emoragequit and/or bitter vet players doesn't come easy.
Originally by: Response to bitter carebear tears in local [19:44:46] CCP Incognito > sorry i can't talk about game mechanics. you need to use your brains and figure it out.
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Dr Sheepbringer
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.02.09 07:40:00 -
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If you can't do pew pew in the current T1's...you are doing something wrong. Also, if you can't afford doing pew pew in T2 frigates, you are doing something wrong.
Originally by: CCP Shadow Dr. Sheepbringer -- It's not that kind of horn.
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Zhim'Fufu
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Posted - 2011.02.09 08:09:00 -
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Originally by: Dr Sheepbringer If you can't do pew pew in the current T1's...you are doing something wrong. Also, if you can't afford doing pew pew in T2 frigates, you are doing something wrong.
Yes because the 'choice' of rifter, rupture, arbitrator, blackbird, drake, harbinger, hurricane is right when the vast majority of the t1 lineup goes completely unused. As far as affording t2 ships well there are plenty of very competant players with very limited playtimes be them a working stiff or a time challenged student or a busy parent. So being able to log in and join up for a corp roam in an easily affordable t1 ship would be the best of all worlds for all involved. The player can quickly run a mission or two and get enough isk for a valid ship and the gang gets a regular member to add to its roster. Plus it would be a great boost the long forgoten t1 production line which has been fairly unprofitable or ages. It would be great to be able to use an executioner or a slasher as a competent tackler instead of the total waste it is now due to even a top skilled ship running out of cap in seconds or dying to a glancing hit or a set of 4 horribly skilled t1 drones if they try to put a long point on something and keep it for any useable amount of time. Don't even get me started on the omen or maller or prophecy or ferox or moa or augoror or scythe or tristan or burst or exequorer or inquisitor or god knows pretty much the rest of the t1 lineup. Fix all those ships to be viable in pve and pvp alongside the bare handful of currently useful t1 ships and noone will even want a t3 frigate for years.
Originally by: Response to bitter carebear tears in local [19:44:46] CCP Incognito > sorry i can't talk about game mechanics. you need to use your brains and figure it out.
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Shereza
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Posted - 2011.02.09 09:02:00 -
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#1 At one point (IIRC) CCP was contemplating tech levels through 10.
#2 The term is leprous. What you should have said is, "Makes me want use use a leprous rat like a sham-wow to clean my flagpole."
#3 I'm all for variety. Bring on T3. Hell, bring on T4 and T5. I don't really care about over-powered or under-powered, I just care about having options that I enjoy.
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Lost Greybeard
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Posted - 2011.02.09 09:56:00 -
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Originally by: Omara Otawan Losing skillpoints every time a Thrasher sneezes in your general direction sounds like a fun concept if you ask me.
I doubt they'd retain the sp-loss mechanic for the frigate size category, short of giving them an effective survivability on par with t3 cruisers... which would be pretty game-breaking.
I'd expect something more directly fitting-related to balance them out, like frig subsystems having drawbacks/penalites reduced by investing points in the subsystem skills a la rigs.
That's pure speculation, but so is the idea that they're planning to do t3 frigs in the first place. ---
If you outlaw tautologies, only outlaws will have tautologies. ~Anonymous |

Pod Amarr
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Posted - 2011.02.09 09:58:00 -
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Originally by: Omara Otawan Losing skillpoints every time a Thrasher sneezes in your general direction sounds like a fun concept if you ask me.
If we can use teh T3 cruisers as an example of HP then the t3 frigate will end up to have 30 000 ehp Pod |

Target Painter
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.02.09 10:16:00 -
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Drunkposting about abandoned content, **** yeah!
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Rawls Canardly
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Posted - 2011.02.09 11:09:00 -
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Edited by: Rawls Canardly on 09/02/2011 11:09:41 Tech 3 cruisers aren't as great as people think. edit- I'd rather see more types of destroyer/battlecruiser out there.
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