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Quagtron
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Posted - 2011.02.23 04:28:00 -
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Wow, I am such a popular subject today. I am the freighter pilot that he claims cheated. I did not cheat. I was playing smart. I was pointed, yes, but i was also fully aligned to a safe spot, and i was 20km+ from the single, yes i said single red that was pointing me. He claims there was 2 but there was one and unless he was using a tech 2 or faction point, 20km is the max range and will let me go once beyond that. So I must sadly say, please learn to pvp better next time you come across a freighter, our fat asses can win and it just happened. Good Day :)
Also, talk to Mdar, he is the bomb
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John Alper
Universalis Imperium Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2011.02.23 04:32:00 -
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Well I was the vagabond pilot that died in that video. (My poor vagabond:( Donations are accepted!)
The freighter had been aligned and was spamming warp but was pointed by a covops. We killed the cov ops right before the gang jumped in and so the freighter got into warp before they could get into range.
No exploits, no bugs, just bad luck on your part.
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Squall D'Lyes
Gallente Universalis Imperium
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Posted - 2011.02.23 04:39:00 -
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I was also there at the fight. Was flying a rapier and killed the covops that had the freighter pointed initially.
While the freighter was pointed by the covops, he was still aligning. Once we killed the covops, I dual webbed him with the rapier. This was done before the first of the gang jumped through. For some reason, he must not have warped at that point because a dual web should have made him instawarp. So my guess is bad luck.
Once the gang jumped through though, I cloaked cause I couldnt do anything to that gang.
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Anne Alingus
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Posted - 2011.02.23 06:40:00 -
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I thought the webs just removed the acceleration component of warping, and that you still have to align?
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IQ 001
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Posted - 2011.02.23 06:52:00 -
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Edited by: IQ 001 on 23/02/2011 06:53:27
Originally by: Naomi Wildfire Edited by: Naomi Wildfire on 22/02/2011 19:16:41
Originally by: TriadSte Its not many times you see a pvper here moaning about a stupid loss of an easy kill.
So all I have to say is, pvper tears are far better than carebear tears.
Also it was either Desync or he logged as he's not in local [ im betting on this one ]
If you log while pointed: You simply disappear after 1m/15m.
eh, actually this is not always true.... whle loggin in via my iphone internet theder using 3g in a slow loacation, i frequently got lags...to uch to do any fighting... i jumped a gate once and got a bad lag spike on the far side, i came out of the lag spike to watch my ship WARP 1Million KMS away.. now, i know ur ship warps 1,000,000 km away when u logout...but i was still logged in when it did this....
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BeanBagKing
Terra Incognita Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2011.02.23 07:43:00 -
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Originally by: IQ 001 Edited by: IQ 001 on 23/02/2011 06:53:27
Originally by: Naomi Wildfire Edited by: Naomi Wildfire on 22/02/2011 19:16:41
Originally by: TriadSte Its not many times you see a pvper here moaning about a stupid loss of an easy kill.
So all I have to say is, pvper tears are far better than carebear tears.
Also it was either Desync or he logged as he's not in local [ im betting on this one ]
If you log while pointed: You simply disappear after 1m/15m.
eh, actually this is not always true.... whle loggin in via my iphone internet theder using 3g in a slow loacation, i frequently got lags...to uch to do any fighting... i jumped a gate once and got a bad lag spike on the far side, i came out of the lag spike to watch my ship WARP 1Million KMS away.. now, i know ur ship warps 1,000,000 km away when u logout...but i was still logged in when it did this....
I like your name.
Sorry, carry on.
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UberDefDef
The Dark Horses. Sanctus Ianitores Mundi
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Posted - 2011.02.23 09:09:00 -
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Originally by: pr0spect Edited by: pr0spect on 22/02/2011 04:31:49 We had two points on this freighter, Obelisk, and he warped off. One of our guys had point on him for at least 20 seconds while receiving damage messages from the freighter's vagabond buddy who was trying to run us off. So it's not lag...
Is this some sort of bug or exploit?
Freighter Warping Pointed
The video picks up at the tail end of the ordeal, in the first two seconds the freighter warps.
you're in B2K...I wouldnt be surprised if you had a 20k point fit...
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m3rb3aSt
Minmatar Tovarsky Pharmaceuticals Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.02.23 10:16:00 -
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I think it was a bug. These guys have been flying around our space and are definitely flying ships that wouldn't have a plain out t1 point. I recall seeing two cynabals, a gila, rapier, and sabre (I think) and they definitely would have fit t2 points at the minimum. Most cynabal pilots fit a faction point so it is definitely some sort of bug.
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pr0spect
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Posted - 2011.02.25 06:06:00 -
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Edited by: pr0spect on 25/02/2011 06:08:08
I never claimed he cheated. I was torn between exploit or bug.
The more I read the more intelligible posts on this thread, the more I think it's just some janky CCP miscalculation.
Furthermore, if you're flying a vagabond and you're using a tech 1 warp disruptor, you need to uninstall Eve. To think people even suggesting this makes for good lulz.
So, in summation I've decided to chalk it up to broken CCP code, maybe we should put it up with the 1000 papercuts post, but then again the reproduction on this seems to be very difficult.
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Meridith Akesia
Tempest Legion Freemason Core
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Posted - 2011.02.25 08:56:00 -
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TL;DR: OP fails at tackling.
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pr0spect
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Posted - 2011.02.27 02:00:00 -
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Edited by: pr0spect on 27/02/2011 02:01:13
Originally by: Meridith Akesia TL;DR: OP fails at tackling.
I can't fail, I win at everything, all the time.
I put my pants on one leg at a time like everyone else, except I p*ss excellence in them.
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Omara Otawan
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Posted - 2011.02.27 02:17:00 -
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Have seen it before, one dude pulled this trick in a freighter every time he jumped into our lowsec system.
We never figured out what he did, but he managed to warp despite being pointed by at least one HIC and a gazillion of ships.
Always smacked in local afterwards how pro he was for getting out...
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Hecatonis
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.02.27 05:35:00 -
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why does it seem that everyone ignored the other people involved in the fight.
they kinda explained how he got away. poop happens, one less kill for the books
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Laechyd Eldgorn
Caldari draketrain Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.02.27 08:37:00 -
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Originally by: Siigari Kitawa THIS HAPPENS SOMETIMES TO ALL SHIPS |
I think it's if you hit some magical velocity while you have initiated warp (there's warping text). Happened to me few times. I hit warp and someone points me a little too late but I still warp. I think it might have something in common with that magical stuck in warping state.
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Carniflex
StarHunt R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2011.02.27 09:01:00 -
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Originally by: Jamie Banks
Originally by: Baneken Also emergency warp from a disconnect shouldn't be able to avoid scrams or bubbles any more or something along those lines read in the path notes some time ago.
Not quite. There used to be a mechanic where you could log off multiple times such that each time you logged back on, you were a distance away from the point you logged from. Now, no matter how many times you log on/log off, you will always arrive at the point you initially logged off at.
It's true most of the time, however, if you are prepared you can still avoid warping back to the point you logged off from. Can't to it in freighter however.
Its more useful if you are in supercapital and dont want to end up in ****caged POS upon login. I have petitioned it in the past and GM's investigated this ... 'trick' ... but as far as I'm aware it has not been classed as exploit so far. All I got back from it was 'we have started internal discussion on how to react to such thing' and clarification that if you would be using it to end up more than 10 AU from celestials in the system this would be classed as exploit.
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Templar Dane
Amarrian Retribution
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Posted - 2011.02.27 09:50:00 -
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Had this happen to me on the other end the other day. I had JUST got out of a guy's point range, but wasn't aligned to anything, so I spammed warp to whatever.....fat ass aligning.....aligning....guy got point on me again, but it still said I was in warp. The overview clearly said he had a point on me, yet a few seconds later I was safely in warp.
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Mara Rinn
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Posted - 2011.02.27 10:08:00 -
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It's also worth remembering that the space simulation only does its calculations once per second. The rest of the action is interpolated by the client. The freighter might have got to the 20km limit and warped out just after one tick, whereas if he'd stayed on grid for another second your client would have deactivated the warp scrambler due to the freighter being out of range.
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Cheekyhoe
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Posted - 2011.02.27 10:45:00 -
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I'm like to point out that the point disappeared half cycle.
Now if anyone isn't aware until the cycle finishes you cannot warp regardless of being out of range.
Unless you have a warp stab.
So either this is a new exploit (farmers get your pitchforks) or as many people said it was a desync.
Personally I think the freighter pilot did use an exploit but most likely unknowingly.
Also gutted if he was empty
And next time dont be a ninny and jump into a system with hostiles in....
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El Liptonez
Blackwater USA Inc. Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2011.02.27 11:01:00 -
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I've had the same thing happen so me once. Got tackled well by a Crusader orbiting me at ~20km. Clicked warp, the warp message showed up (the big one on the bottom), the tackling message came in, but the big warp drive active didn't disappear and my ship kept accelerating and warping off. 
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Jekyl Eraser
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Posted - 2011.02.27 11:25:00 -
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did you deactivate point by mistake and then reactivated it right as the cycle time gave in? I've done that mistake few times and your video doesn't show the begining of the cycle which would prove this point. If you did this mistake and target is spamming warp, he will get away. Now confess! 
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Avon
Caldari Versatech Co. RED.OverLord
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Posted - 2011.02.27 11:35:00 -
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Originally by: m3rb3aSt I think it was a bug. These guys have been flying around our space and are definitely flying ships that wouldn't have a plain out t1 point. I recall seeing two cynabals, a gila, rapier, and sabre (I think) and they definitely would have fit t2 points at the minimum. Most cynabal pilots fit a faction point so it is definitely some sort of bug.
You can always look at the guy's lossmails on battleclinic - he frequently uses T1 points.
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The Old Chap
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Posted - 2011.02.27 11:56:00 -
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Reading the post and replies, it doesn't sound like a bug or an exploit. You just didn't have the situation 100% nailed, and the odds worked against you that time.
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Typhado3
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.02.28 20:51:00 -
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What where the drones that where attacking that scrambler?
They weren't doing any damage. ------------------------------ God is an afk cloaker |
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