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Aston Bradley
Through the Looking Glass
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Posted - 2011.09.29 13:43:00 -
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J Kunjeh wrote:Dust definitely wont fail...
I think for one it will attract a lot of ex-Eve players who quit because they just don't have 20 hours a week to devote to a game world, but they're still hopelessly addicted to to everything Eve. They need some way to make meaningful contributions to New Eden that doesn't require a part time job.
Mmm... I am playing eve just 6-7 hours a week and i am doing just fine. While being the most new player unfriendly MMO it's not the most time consuming one. That kinda depends what you do in eve i guess, but there's definitly things you can do that arn't that time consuming. I spend my time in game bounty hunting and sometimes roaming or running missions. I do it when i want, i don't need to play x hours for it unlike other MMos.
Point being. Yes they are things in eve that are time consuming but if you don't have the time there are plenty of other things to do in eve on a casual basis. You don't need dust that will have little to do with eve outside of the story element and small interactions between the two games.
If you like eve so badly, just find a casual Corp, go have some fun with them in lowsec from time to time. You don't need DUST for that. |

J Kunjeh
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Posted - 2011.09.29 14:08:00 -
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Aston Bradley wrote:J Kunjeh wrote:Dust definitely wont fail...
I think for one it will attract a lot of ex-Eve players who quit because they just don't have 20 hours a week to devote to a game world, but they're still hopelessly addicted to to everything Eve. They need some way to make meaningful contributions to New Eden that doesn't require a part time job. Mmm... I am playing eve just 6-7 hours a week and i am doing just fine. While being the most new player unfriendly MMO it's not the most time consuming one. I guess that kinda depends on what you do in eve, but there's definitly things you can do that arn't that time consuming. I spend my time in game bounty hunting and sometimes roaming or running missions. I do it when i want, i don't need to play x hours for it unlike other MMos. Point being. Yes they are things in eve that are time consuming but if you don't have the timefor these, there are plenty of other activities to do in eve on a casual basis. If you like eve so badly, just find a casual Corp, go have some fun with them in lowsec from time to time. You don't need DUST for that.
6-7 hours is a hell of a lot of time for just one game...especially when you're a gamer who plays board games, all of the consoles, and PC games...there's just only so much time to devote to any one game.
And yes, I do need Dust...because it looks to me to be an amazing addition to New Eden. "The world as we know it came about through an anomaly (anomou)" (The Gospel of Philip, 1-5)-á |

Aston Bradley
Through the Looking Glass
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Posted - 2011.09.29 15:16:00 -
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J Kunjeh wrote:
6-7 hours is a hell of a lot of time for just one game...especially when you're a gamer who plays board games, all of the consoles, and PC games...there's just only so much time to devote to any one game.
And yes, I do need Dust...because it looks to me to be an amazing addition to New Eden.
I agree it is a great new addition, but in all honesty i like playing eve for what it is. A tactical spaceship MMo sandbox. A FPS is cool and i am sure i am going to have a lot of fun with it at launch but here is the thing... DUST is a FPS.... Worse a console PS3 exclusive FPS.
That's a very bad move if you ask me. FPS are saturated with games, and consoles get new games on the table every month. It's kinda hard to dedicate yourself to just one game when it comes to consoles, with so many games to choose from.
Eve is PC exclusive, a market that is far from saturated. EvE is unique in it's genre. Sure they are some other space MMo's but you can coun't them on one hand. You get a new FPS in store every month. It's a though market and the attention span for the genre is usually very low.
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Davelantor
The Resistance Movement
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Posted - 2011.09.29 17:01:00 -
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Dust 514 will be like any other page in history of console games.
Statistically, Console gamers are faster on letting games go and starting on new once. PC gamers often are more loyal to the game as they will keep going for longer periods of times.
What will happen is that even with the new expansions people will go and say "ow yeah, i played that game" ... thats it. We are talking about PS3 here ... compared to PC audiance the age average is significantly lower. They want fast paste action and get bored easily.
Dust 514 needs to have a continious stream of players ... otherwise it cant function ... Other games are not like that ... they get released and then they make profit with the first sales. Then they dont give a crap as the game gets older.
WIth all these massive titles rushing in PS3 ... DUST 514 will be F.U.B.A.R. |

Aston Bradley
Through the Looking Glass
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Posted - 2011.09.30 07:32:00 -
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Davelantor wrote:Dust 514 will be like any other page in history of console games.
Statistically, Console gamers are faster on letting games go and starting on new once. PC gamers often are more loyal to the game as they will keep going for longer periods of times.
What will happen is that even with the new expansions people will go and say "ow yeah, i played that game" ... thats it. We are talking about PS3 here ... compared to PC audiance the age average is significantly lower. They want fast paste action and get bored easily.
Exactly. Not to say that as a PS3 game it can't succed at keeping players in, but PS3 players will see in this a very cool FPS. Since most of these young players don't even know or care about eve, i doubt it will be much more than a regular multiplayer console FPS to them. They'll play it for sure untill an other call od duty or GoW game comes out. They might play it again when no good games come out, but that is very unlikely to happen. Usually each month would offer you one very interesting game to purchase at the very least.
On PC, you get about 2-3 good games a year. So once you get a good one, you dedicate to it. I like the dust concept but making it a PS3 exclusive is not a good move. And that's a PS3 owner talking. |

AlleyKat
The Unwanted.
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Posted - 2011.09.30 12:15:00 -
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Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:I was talking about DUST among my co-workers yesterday. Most of them had never heard of it yet all of them because of myself and a few others I work with know what EvE is. The ones that knew of DUST admitted that they would be playing it at some point at least to give it a try and see how it goes. The others after reading about it and seeing what DUST offers that is new to console FPS are now on board to try it as well.
Most FPS gamers are going to at least try to play DUST just because of the new elements such as interacting with a persistent PC MMO will bring. This is all CCP needs. People to just try it. After that the ball is back in CCP's court to make the game good enough to keep people playing. Look at MAG. Still alive and kicking. I logged in the other day to see thousands of people on and playing. Wasn't expecting that. Look at HALO. Completely unheard of game on a new console with no advertising. Blockbuster hit and many sequels made to this day.
To say that DUST will fail without giving it a try is foolish at best. Nobody knows right now what the reaction to DUST will be when it hits shelves. To quote one of my co-workers yesterday after I explained DUST to them...
"So you are saying that there will be players in another game flying in space who will pay people in DUST to do ground combat for them? And these actions will impact the PC gamers flying in space? That's ******* awesome!"
That's the kind of reaction that gets new games attention and makes them successful. No matter what it is from...the wow factor. It's not going to hit the shelves "Combat in New Eden is either a blob or a work of art...let me paint you a picture" |

Vertisce Soritenshi
SHADOW WARD Tragedy.
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Posted - 2011.09.30 18:51:00 -
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AlleyKat wrote:Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:I was talking about DUST among my co-workers yesterday. Most of them had never heard of it yet all of them because of myself and a few others I work with know what EvE is. The ones that knew of DUST admitted that they would be playing it at some point at least to give it a try and see how it goes. The others after reading about it and seeing what DUST offers that is new to console FPS are now on board to try it as well.
Most FPS gamers are going to at least try to play DUST just because of the new elements such as interacting with a persistent PC MMO will bring. This is all CCP needs. People to just try it. After that the ball is back in CCP's court to make the game good enough to keep people playing. Look at MAG. Still alive and kicking. I logged in the other day to see thousands of people on and playing. Wasn't expecting that. Look at HALO. Completely unheard of game on a new console with no advertising. Blockbuster hit and many sequels made to this day.
To say that DUST will fail without giving it a try is foolish at best. Nobody knows right now what the reaction to DUST will be when it hits shelves. To quote one of my co-workers yesterday after I explained DUST to them...
"So you are saying that there will be players in another game flying in space who will pay people in DUST to do ground combat for them? And these actions will impact the PC gamers flying in space? That's ******* awesome!"
That's the kind of reaction that gets new games attention and makes them successful. No matter what it is from...the wow factor. It's not going to hit the shelves
Huh?...
I am not sure where that comment came from or what you even really mean by it. |
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